Someone PLEASE help!!!

[MotoMike]

I purchased a quad off of this site a little over a month ago.  I bought it from "seminolewind" and I paid him $4600 for a 2005 TRX450R.  I paid it all by paypal in three payments.  I picked up the quad on 10/16.  I drove about three hours north to meet the guy.  When he got there, he said that he had forgotten the bill of sale and that he would get it to me immediately...along with the manual that he had forgotten at home.

Well, on November 1st, I received a PM from him saying that he had been out of town and he needed my address and he would get the bill of sale out immediately and as soon as he received the title, he would sign it and send it to me.

Well, I have tried to contact him many times with no response.

Someone please advise what I can do!  I need a title or something.

Please!

Mike

[mikeE36]

You dont pay over the web. I'd go to his house if I were you. Call the cops in his town.

[MotoMike]

He lives like 7 - 8 hrs away...but that is a good idea.

Mike

[MotoMike]

Here is his info incase any of you know him.

Mr Bones please help!

Mike

[MotoMike]

Something interesting that I found...

 
 Vehicle Information Check 
 
 Vehicle Information
     
 Vehicle Identification Number:  xxxxxxxxxxxxx  (not showing this) 
     
 Year/Make: 2005 HONDA
 
     
 Previous Title State:   
     
 Registration Expiration Date:   
 
     
 Title:  92832348
     
 Title Issue Date: 04/06/2005
 
     
 Odometer Reading/Status:  0
 
     
 Odometer Date:   
 
     
 Color:   
 
     
 Vehicle Type: OFF-HIGHWAY
 
     
 Title Status:  ACTIVE
   
 Owner Information: 1 owner 
 
 
 
     
 Brands:   
   
 
 
 Lien Information
         
 Name: GE MONEY BANK  Address: 332 MINNESOTA ST STE 610   Date: 03/24/2005
 ST PAUL, MN 55101-0000 

[ppark350se]

i would go to his house and call the cop becouse he still owes on that bike enless the bank hasnt updated the state that he paid it off or he just took your money and didnt pay the bank.

[Mr. Fixit]

To late now,but when you met him and he didn't have a bill of sale,you should have written one on a peice of paper and had him sign it. If he didn't pay off the quad and you call the police they may take it and let the bank repo it. Not sure how that would work. 

[Da_Mtg_Man]

Moto, I hate to say this but you may be losing your bike. He still owes the bank. He probably didn't pay off the bank and doesn't care because he already has crappy credit or the note is in someone elses name. The bank will be loooking for the quad to repo and will report it stolen. Granted, That is worse case but it looks like it's heading that way.

I would contact the seller and in a polite voice tell him that you really don't want to have to drive all the way to Pensacola to get this cleared up. Maybe if he thinks you're serious he'll take responsibility.

[yunt2ride]

Something I learned is to never meet anyone and buy anything. If you meet them somewhere to buy something and you do not meet them at their house you never really know where they live. He could have stolen the quad and you purchased it and do not have a clue as to who he really is or where he lives. I purchased one and met the person at a parking lot to make the sale much easier for the both of us and come to find out it was stolen. I did get the guy arrested because he tried to sell me another one after I found out but I still did not get my money back. I would almost say that the quad is not his. Another thing is that you can get the vin. number and run it through FDLE to see if its stolen but in my case, I did that but the owner did not know that it was stolen until a week later because she had it stored at a relatives house so that does not always work either.

[MotoMike]

Thanks for everyones help.  I ran the vin and it is not reported stolen and I have had the bike for over a month now so if it was going to be reported as stolen you would think that would have already happened.

Mike

[LakeMaryKid]

Just to let you know, the FDLE site only searches in FL i think.

[#74 crf250r]

it sucks that people would scam someone like this i dont even look at a bike unless they have a title but hopefully you will get to keep your quad.

[LakeMaryKid]

Mike this is what i have found so far.

This is where his work number was traced to.

Molino Office
213 W Garden St
Pensacola, FL 32502-5728
(850) 434-2735

[Chillinthemost]

It doesnt do you any good now but I bought my Rhino from a guy in Ga. he only had it a few months and at the time new ones were hard to get. I took him 2 cashiers checks. One made out to him and one made out to the leinholder for the payoff. That way I knew the machine would be paid off. I also picked it up from his house and we made out a bill of sale.
  I had something similiar happen to me a long time ago and I know the sick feeling it gives you. Good luck, hope it works out for you.

[MotoMike]

Well he Pm'd me.  And the stuff is in UPS headed my way.  He shipped the manual, bill of sale and some other stuff he had for the bike, so it seems all is well.  He said he still hasn't received the title, but that is understandable!

Thanks!
Mike

[1FasterBlaster]

That sounded like it was going in the bad, but I'm glad it worked out for you. In the future, never take anything from anyone without writing some kind of bill of sale. I sold my car to an associate of mine and he disappeared for three months without a trace. I had to file a small claims suit against his mother cause he put the car in her name. But if I didn't write out a bill of sale, he coudl've screwed me out of the deal.

[MotoMike]

Lesson Learned     -     *etching this in my brain! 

Mike

[Honda328i]

Sucks that there are poeple out there who have to operate like this at other people's expense.  They say buyer beware.  I hope it all works out for you in the end Mike.  Did you sell your 250R, or am I remembering this wrong?

[MotoMike]

Thanks!

Yeah, I sold the 250r but I see it every few days.    Its such a beaut...although my 450r is looking pretty sweet now with the new LT suspension.

Mike

[The Quad FaJa]

good deal..happy it worked out for you....

[MotoMike]

Well, so far....

[MotoMike]

Thank you everyone for your help.

Today I received, by UPS, my owners manual, a motion pro twist throttle and MY BILL OF SALE!!!  He says that he should have the title in the coming weeks as there was a little more owed than he was told.

Thank you again!
Mike

[seminolewind]

Hey motomike thanks for putting all my personnal information on the site I appreciate it. I told you I had some personnal problems going on but you bashed me anyway on the site I told you I would send you all your paperwork but you couldnt wait instead you trashed me on the site, for everyone who reads this the bike is not stollen the reason he has not recieved the title is I sold him the bike for less than I owed on it and I still have to finish paying it off.

[bluesman]

man just relax....no one called u a schmuck......
 
           he was just alittle worried
                 
             
   
                  if the you were in his shoes you would be too.
   
                            merry christmas
 
                                                       
                                                        bluesman

[trx#9]

Hey motomike thanks for putting all my personnal information on the site I appreciate it. I told you I had some personnal problems going on but you bashed me anyway on the site I told you I would send you all your paperwork but you couldnt wait instead you trashed me on the site, for everyone who reads this the bike is not stollen the reason he has not recieved the title is I sold him the bike for less than I owed on it and I still have to finish paying it off.

You should have been up front with him with the situation in the beginning, I think you both learn a lesson on this one!