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[inked4life87]

THAT MAY BE WRONG BUT THAT SAME EBT CARD IS USED BY POOR PEOPLE OF ALL RACES AND CREEDS.SO THINK ABOUT IT,NOW IM NOT SAYING THAT SOME PEOPLE DONT ABUSE IT .THIS IS AMERICA,NOBODY IS REALLY FROM HERE WE ALL CAME FROM SOME WHERE ELESE.THE OLNY PEOPLE THAT REALLY HAVE RIGHTS TO THE LAND ARE INDIANS.I LOVE THIS COUNTRY AND WOULD DO ANY THING FOR IT,I HAVE LIVED HERE ALL MY LIFE,MY MOTHER WAS FROM CUBA AND MY FATHER FROM ITALY,IF NOT FOR THEM LOOKING FOR A BETTER LIFE I WOULD NOT BE HERE.EVERYONES PARENTS CAME HERE LOOKING FOR A BETTER LIFE.I AM NOT ASHAMED TO SAY THAT WHEN I WAS A CHILD MY PARENTS HAD FOOD STAMPS,MY FATHER AND MOTHER WORKED VERY HARD,AND THANKS TO FOOD STAMPS WE HAD FOOD ON OUR TABLE AT TOUGH TIMES.THEY DID NOT ABUSE THE SYSTEM,AND USED FOR OLNY THE TIME THEY NEEDED IT.

[gery350]

listen all i am saying is that if you cant afford to have kids then dont. the people i am talking about you can tell have been here most of their life. so what, this lazy @ss gets to stay home while i have to send my kids to day care til 6:00pm cause me wife has to work. i dont think so. like i said no pitty here. cant afford it- get a second or third job. i for one will do whatever it takes to support my family.


p.s.- i too came from cuba and lived with my grandparents in hialeah. my grandfathe worked in a woodmill while my grandmother sewed in a factory during the day and sewed at night at home. i love em very much and although they will never read this i'd like to say "thank you and i love u guys very much" (i guess i am having a moment-sorry)

[MrsPureLogic]

First of all - Mama Grizz....you go girl 

2nd of all....this thread is called "Open Discussion" therefore, ANYTHING is "up" for "discussion."  And FYI in case anyone's wondering, I am NOT in high school.

As for people taken advantage....it's a shame.  The "Publix" lady, unfortunately she is one of MANY taking advantage in this country.  But yes, there ARE those families who truly need the assistance and value it, however, they are VERY few and FAR between....and this is MY OPINION!!!!! 

[jwscroll]

I am a member of one of those families that has used gov't assistance.The difference is that I got away from it as soon as I could. It's the habitual user that is dragging that system down, and the sad thing is that we STILL have children in this country going to bed hungry.

[TRX350_On_The_Rack]

listen all i am saying is that if you cant afford to have kids then dont. the people i am talking about you can tell have been here most of their life. so what, this lazy @ss gets to stay home while i have to send my kids to day care til 6:00pm cause me wife has to work. i dont think so. like i said no pitty here. cant afford it- get a second or third job. i for one will do whatever it takes to support my family.


p.s.- i too came from cuba and lived with my grandparents in hialeah. my grandfathe worked in a woodmill while my grandmother sewed in a factory during the day and sewed at night at home. i love em very much and although they will never read this i'd like to say "thank you and i love u guys very much" (i guess i am having a moment-sorry)

I hear you. The poor and the rich (not all) get the benefits while the middle class picks up the tab. You spend your whole life working while others get a free ride and tax-break incentives, but I would have to say I'm for feeding a starving child over the other.

[05greengriz]

Right on jwscroll, It doesn't matter who u are, at 1 point of your life or another you are going to need help. There will always be the one's that abuse the system, that is just the way life is. It is up to the individual to take the steps to better their life.

[grass-catcher]

If I had a dollar for everytime that I have seen people who had those
cards who on the surface had more than I did .Duncan Racing would be
getting an order for a new race bike.The views expressed are a carbon
copy of my deepest beleifs.Mighty darn sad when saying what you feel
is a not allowed.Saw this one day "What is always popular isnt always
right" "What is right isnt always popular"

[CAOSPOP]

THE MORE I COME ON THIS SITE THE MORE I SEE IT GOING SO FAR FROM WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT.IT LOOKS LIKE PEOPLE COME ON THIS SIT JUST TO START FIGHTS AND GET EVERY ONE PISSED OFF.PEOPLE NEED TO GROW UP,THIS IS NOT HIGH SCHOOL!!!!!!!!.IF YOU KNEW IT WOULD GET PEOPLE MAD THEN WHY POST IT.ITS ALWAYS THE SAME PEOPLE STARTING THE PROBLEMS ALWAYS.

Its not about starting problems its about venting about something that really gets under your skin. A lot of the talk among the people hear is among friends.People we have met before  on rides. We have shared time together with our families.

[Ida_Mann]

I don't think he posted it to start a fight. I think he knows someone always finds a way to start an argument out of everything. Noone had a problem with it, but you come along and call us all high schoolers because we are proud what we work for and don't want it all handed out to "crack heads squirting out babies".

My g/f works at publix and a lady came in the other day with all these baby phat clothes, i836special edition phone with diamonds and ordered her wedding cake it came to $900, she paid for it with an EBT card(gov't assistance) the manager refused to ring up the order and said HE is not paying for HER cake with his taxes, another manager did ring it up and when they loaded it in her car it was a brand new escalade ext with spinners. Its that kind of stuff that makes me mad!!!!!!

I woulda taken down the tag number and gotten her name and contacted whatever agency I need to to report that crap.

Id@

[Bigscrb15]

I don't think he posted it to start a fight. I think he knows someone always finds a way to start an argument out of everything. Noone had a problem with it, but you come along and call us all high schoolers because we are proud what we work for and don't want it all handed out to "crack heads squirting out babies".

My g/f works at publix and a lady came in the other day with all these baby phat clothes, i836special edition phone with diamonds and ordered her wedding cake it came to $900, she paid for it with an EBT card(gov't assistance) the manager refused to ring up the order and said HE is not paying for HER cake with his taxes, another manager did ring it up and when they loaded it in her car it was a brand new escalade ext with spinners. Its that kind of stuff that makes me mad!!!!!!

I believe the manager did contact the agency because he had all her information from the card.

I woulda taken down the tag number and gotten her name and contacted whatever agency I need to to report that crap.

Id@

[Ida_Mann]

I can personally say that the people abusing the system are not the whole problem.  I was out of work for 14 months before the job I have now.  In that time I collected unemployment and feel good that I did because unemployment is paid for by the company you worked for, not taxpayers.  but during that time, I had to cover my daughter under health insurance and the only way I could do it was through "Healthy Kids".  Healthy Kid is basically welfare that is paid for by taxpayers and is free health insurance for children in disadvantaged families.  I'm glad that my daughter is a healthy kid basically because I don't even remember using the program at all during that time.

Anyway, long story made short, when I found a job, my first goal was to get on the company health plan and get my daughter off of Healthy Kids program.  It took me a little over 2 years AFTER I had her covered under the company health plan to get her off of the Healthy Kids program due to paperwork and bureaucracy.

Id@

[cain73]

First off you nailed it rigt on the head! Second, I knew it was only a matter of time before someone started complaining about you posting what most of us hold to be true.

THE MORE I COME ON THIS SITE THE MORE I SEE IT GOING SO FAR FROM WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT.IT LOOKS LIKE PEOPLE COME ON THIS SIT JUST TO START FIGHTS AND GET EVERY ONE PISSED OFF.PEOPLE NEED TO GROW UP,THIS IS NOT HIGH SCHOOL!!!!!!!!.IF YOU KNEW IT WOULD GET PEOPLE MAD THEN WHY POST IT.ITS ALWAYS THE SAME PEOPLE STARTING THE PROBLEMS ALWAYS.

No one was trying to start a problem. This forum is construced with a common interest in mind, but doen't exclude us from talking about other common interests. Do you think we should post nothing that isn't directly related to ATV's? We post to communicate and share topics of interest with each other. This is just like some of what the original post was about. Most of us agree with what was said. A few don't like it and complain. We should not refrain from sharing what we believe in with each other for fear of the few that don't share common beliefs. Don't like it, don't read it. It is not an attack on the few by the many, it was a common set of beliefs commented on so that those that share similar beliefs can contribute/discuss it. Just like in society it is the "few" that attacked the many. Why is it you can spout off about what you want while telling us not to post what we want? This is a slightly different situation, but draws a parallel..... Do something that promotes black history, heritage or culture and you are a great person. If you are balck and do that then you are simply trying to "lift up" your race and showing pride in your color. On the other side if you are white and do the same thing promoting the pride of your color you are quickly labeled racist and looked down upon. Again the many are attacked by the few. society likes to promote such anti majority attacks while condemning any counter attacks. those living outside the norms want to be left alone and respected for their decisions, but they continually attack those holding true to those norms for their lifestyles. It's a system of hypocracy. If you're gay, black, disabled, etc, etc, etc, you can do no wrong and it's ok to fight for your decisions/acceptance. while if you are white, hetro sexual, Christian, male you can do no right.
We need to be proud of who we are and not be coerced into giving up our beliefs and practices just because a few don't like it. Minorities (gays, ethnic, religious, etc) should not be discriminated against, but they should not be able to destroy all that has been created by societal norms and rules. Not only should we continue to speak out promoting our opinions and lifestyles, we should do more to promote it. Don't give in to political correctness, right is still right. Allowing everything does not make everything alright. a freak is still a freak, a sex worker is still a w#*re, and a liar is still a liar (is does not have a hidden meaning). Don't be ashamed of being a good, moral person just because a few deviants don't like it.
Don't take any of this out of context. it is not an attack on a lifestyle, it's a statement of pride about what most of us consider right and normal. Don't start crying and whining if you have made other deciscions in your life.

[cain73]

And 1 more thing, public assistance is nothing to be ashamed of. It's there to help. the problem is when people take advantage of the system and use it to avoid taking care of themselves or their kids. It should be available to those that NEED it long enough to get them back on their feet. They should not be able to mooch off what hard working people pay in through their hard work. And assistance should not be geared toward a race or away from another. and it should not include free college. If you want to go to school save your money or earn a scholarship. My wife and I put our selves through while supporting our selves and our kids. No one should get for free what others have to work for just because of their skin color... after all isn't that racism ?

[inked4life87]

if you notice this thread was ment to piss off people,look at the orginal name.it was changed when he thought about it...thats why i said grow up,its like he posted it just to fights on the site.

[Honda328i]

THE MORE I COME ON THIS SITE THE MORE I SEE IT GOING SO FAR FROM WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT.IT LOOKS LIKE PEOPLE COME ON THIS SIT JUST TO START FIGHTS AND GET EVERY ONE PISSED OFF.PEOPLE NEED TO GROW UP,THIS IS NOT HIGH SCHOOL!!!!!!!!.IF YOU KNEW IT WOULD GET PEOPLE MAD THEN WHY POST IT.ITS ALWAYS THE SAME PEOPLE STARTING THE PROBLEMS ALWAYS.

Its not about starting problems its about venting about something that really gets under your skin. A lot of the talk among the people hear is among friends.People we have met before  on rides. We have shared time together with our families.

My two cents worth... I think this site is about making and having friends.  From time to time every one of us is going to have a rough time of it, and there are those here that would stop at nothing to help out a brother or sister rider.  We have seen that in action here recently.

If we all did more of this and less reliance on the government, we would all be better off in more ways than one. 

[DRWalum]

THAT MAY BE WRONG BUT THAT SAME EBT CARD IS USED BY POOR PEOPLE OF ALL RACES AND CREEDS.SO THINK ABOUT IT,NOW IM NOT SAYING THAT SOME PEOPLE DONT ABUSE IT .THIS IS AMERICA,NOBODY IS REALLY FROM HERE WE ALL CAME FROM SOME WHERE ELESE.THE OLNY PEOPLE THAT REALLY HAVE RIGHTS TO THE LAND ARE INDIANS.I LOVE THIS COUNTRY AND WOULD DO ANY THING FOR IT,I HAVE LIVED HERE ALL MY LIFE,MY MOTHER WAS FROM CUBA AND MY FATHER FROM ITALY,IF NOT FOR THEM LOOKING FOR A BETTER LIFE I WOULD NOT BE HERE.EVERYONES PARENTS CAME HERE LOOKING FOR A BETTER LIFE.I AM NOT ASHAMED TO SAY THAT WHEN I WAS A CHILD MY PARENTS HAD FOOD STAMPS,MY FATHER AND MOTHER WORKED VERY HARD,AND THANKS TO FOOD STAMPS WE HAD FOOD ON OUR TABLE AT TOUGH TIMES.THEY DID NOT ABUSE THE SYSTEM,AND USED FOR OLNY THE TIME THEY NEEDED IT.

  you babbiling fool !!!!!  

  you got your head up your A$$    

[big-daddy]

this thread started good and now you have walnut bashing going on. 

[jwscroll]

I don't know what an EBT card is but I like Ida used the assistance in the form of insurance for my kids. I'll never be ashamed of being a good enough parent to swallow my pride for the sake of my kids.

[DRWalum]

Hey Big Daddy,

   I know it started off good , and could not agree more than ever !!! 


   I am surprised with all the good feedback   

 Maybe I was venting   
   

   Now its back on track   
   

    DR Walnut

[big-daddy]

Hey Big Daddy,

   I know it started off good , and could not agree more than ever !!! 


   I am surprised with all the good feedback   

 Maybe I was venting   
   

   Now its back on track   
   

    DR Walnut

Now you got me rolling!!  Good one Doc...

[ONEslowEXer]

o4250,
I agree with all of that, but did you realy come up with that by youself
or did you plagiarize it.
If you you did write that then right on man , if not give credit where credit is do,  because that guy sould run for President!

[cain73]

He's got my vote !

[bigscrub79]

o4250,
I agree with all of that, but did you realy come up with that by youself
or did you plagiarize it.
If you you did write that then right on man , if not give credit where credit is do,  because that guy sould run for President!

I have seen it before but from what I found out about it no one knows who wrote it, some say george carlin , but i think lewis black

[Ida_Mann]

o4250,
I agree with all of that, but did you realy come up with that by youself
or did you plagiarize it.
If you you did write that then right on man , if not give credit where credit is do,  because that guy sould run for President!

I have seen it before but from what I found out about it no one knows who wrote it, some say george carlin , but i think lewis black

agreed, I was glad to see it once where someone did NOT attribute it to Carlin.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/rooney4.asp

Id@

[Anoriginal]

Hey, I want new rims for my 05 F350 4x4 King Ranch. Can I get one of those EBT cards? I don't need spinners, just some 18 x 10" Weld Sand Storms. I'll even buy my own tires.