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« on: March 14, 2011, 08:18:55 PM » |
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Im looking to start racing harescrambles next FTR season. i have a 2008 yfz450 factory chassis/suspension setup. looking to install +2 a-arms and long travel shocks on the front; wider rear axle with long travel rear shock using factory tires. would it be best to keep the factory spec parts, or push forward with the wider setup? advantages/disadvantages?
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« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2011, 09:39:07 PM » |
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Buy good shocks but keep it narrow, trees don't move and ruts get deep.
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zman03
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« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2011, 09:45:47 PM » |
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keep it narrow!!!  if you wanna win and not clip a tree! wide is for MX track |
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« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2011, 10:09:30 PM » |
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Most setups for XC will consist of a .5" to 1.5" wider A Arm set.
The rear shock set up is equally as important if not more important than the front.
Make sure the A Arms that you get are built for XC. They have more ground clearance.
A very good all around XC A Arm would be the Houser Max Ground Clearance Setup.
Get a very good steering stabilizer and good strong nerfs, front bumper, and skid plates.
Any aftermarket rear axle will usually work because they have spacers that will adjust them from
stock width to +2 on each side.
JT
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ShaunDubya
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« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2011, 11:07:55 PM » |
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Thank you all for the help and suggestions.
I just bought a Elka Stage 4 rear shock with the link from ebay. already spoke with a specialist @ Elka. They has extremely amazing customer support and are more than willing to help with any questions and changes. I have stage 3 long travel shocks from another quad...after following up on RTRs suggestions, ive found the xc a-arms fit lt shocks. this should work out nicely (excited!) i have a skid, nerfs and bumper...loooks like im not too far off on having a complete quad.
As far as a stabilizer... dial type would prob. be best, but they are quite expensive! Does anyone have any experience with Precision's Shock & Vibe Handlebar Clamping system? thinking that might be a good alternative or addition.
are larger fuel tanks helpful?
Any have experiences with Rekluse clutch systems? are they allowed?
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Chillinthemost
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« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2011, 07:40:47 AM » |
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You are on the right track but mixing and matching parts is a gamble. Unless you are a suspension expert its best to send the shocks off (stock or aftermarket) and have them set up for your weight and riding style.
A stock bike can win C class with a good rider on it and a pro set up bike can come in last with a slow rider on it. Ride, ride, ride, ride
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« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2011, 09:15:00 PM » |
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+1 what Chillin said. Even though he never races anymore, heh heh, he still knows what he's talkin about!  As far as the stabilizer- http://myworld.ebay.com/custom-cnc-partsI got mine for $178.00. A steering stabilizer and the Precision bar clamps serve two different purposes in my opinion. Rekluse is allowed & nice but pricey! I wouldn't go that route right off the bat. Skid plates are a wast of money in Florida. Oversized fuel tank not needed at FTR- only ride for up to 1.5 hours You will need a spark arrestor in exhaust and a tethered kill switch for FTR events though. As far as width, FTR courses are said to be tighter then GNCC courses so stay as narrow as possible. Some do it wide, but not many do it with success. Top 5 important things to be successful XC racer: 1. Practice 2. Suspension 3. Practice 4. Practice 5. Practice (I've seen some FAST people on pretty much stock quads pass me! ex. Chillinthemost) |
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ShaunDubya
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« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2011, 11:57:28 AM » |
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where might be some of the better 'training grounds'? im will to travel if the riding is good!
the ebay dial stabilizer works well? i had always seen the item in searches, but was unsure if it would work well
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Chillinthemost
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« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2011, 01:41:08 PM » |
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Where do you live?
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« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2011, 03:03:16 PM » |
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where might be some of the better 'training grounds'? im will to travel if the riding is good!
the ebay dial stabilizer works well? i had always seen the item in searches, but was unsure if it would work well
also wondering about this stabilizer as well? |
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« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2011, 03:21:33 PM » |
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i live in Debary, between Orlando and Sanford. i have a few riding spots locally, but always looking for something new
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Chillinthemost
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« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2011, 04:23:03 PM » |
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Your local spots are the best, that way you can get some weekday riding in. When I was racing more I had a great place to ride that was on my way home from work and rode a couple times a week. As far as public areas, Dirty foot or Croom would be your central Fl. choices.
My advice is dont spend too much time "getting ready". Just sign up and race, then you will know what needs improving in your riding and on your bike.
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« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2011, 09:26:21 PM » |
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where might be some of the better 'training grounds'? im will to travel if the riding is good!
the ebay dial stabilizer works well? i had always seen the item in searches, but was unsure if it would work well
also wondering about this stabilizer as well? I think it's well worth the money. The stick type are actually not all that bad for what they cost. If you go stick style get the rebuildable and never use stiffest settings. The CCP one is serviceable by him or he will sell you parts. Croom, DirtyFoot, Ocala as far as riding spots. Best place to practice for an FTR event would be an actual FTR event or monthly DirtyFoot races. |
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« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2011, 01:51:48 AM » |
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Diddo on the Dirty Foot suggestion. Great XC course with a TON of one way trails as well.
You can go out all weekend for $20.
That is almost unheard of.
The CCP stabilizer works extrmely well.
Your suspension will be KEY! Who you have do your suspension will also be key!
I would have Matt Blommel from Blommel Motorsports do your shocks.
He is not far from you at all and has a very quick turnaround time! He also does alot of the top Pro AM and Pro
riders suspensions.
Tell him Jason from RTR Performance Engines sent you. We send him a lot of business.
His number is 813-714-1325.
PM me if you want them done and I will give you a little unknown secret!
JT
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« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2011, 08:24:09 PM » |
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X2 on Matt Blommel, 1st class guy and fast turnaround and excellent workmanship!
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« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2011, 09:50:30 PM » |
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X3 On Matt Blommell, he will get your shocks where they need to be with your riding style. Bohnstadt Enterprises just built a Ftr quad and came out real nice 321 228-5181. Plus he's local to you he lives in Sanford area. Good luck !
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ShaunDubya
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« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2011, 11:09:04 PM » |
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matt will be getting the shock for rebuild/setup as soon as the money comes available. thanks everyone! and thank u jason @ RTR
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