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« on: June 09, 2005, 09:39:52 AM »

I have a question ......If "our" war against terrorism continues in the middle east it will not be long before the suicide bombers start targeting our local Shopping centers and gathering places .The pollitcally correct government will not be able to protect us  from our attackers because it is not correct to racially profile " Mandatory curfue for all "How long do you think it would be before those who strongly support our 2nd ammendment rights take matters into their own hands and take care of the problem IN HOUSE ? Would the Govt turn it's back , or would the national Guard be used against the American people to protect the lifes of people who come from the middle east . Just wondering .....I couldn't come up with an answer .
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« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2005, 09:59:22 AM »

Very interesting question. After the first attack on our soil by suicide bomber I think thye goverment should do as was done after Perl Harbor. All Middle Easterners should rounded up and put into camps like the Japenese were. Yes we must be politically correct and not racially profile no matter how many may die at the hands of extremist.
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« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2005, 10:19:39 AM »

Did you ever see the video from the train bombings in Spain ?  Terrorists set off the suitcase bombs as soon as the trains pulled into the stations , all within a very short time period ...Is this the kind of stuff we'll have to learn to tolerate .
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« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2005, 10:27:04 AM »

11 March: Ten bombs explode on four packed early-morning commuter trains in Madrid, killing 191 people and leaving at least 1,800 injured.

Police also carry out controlled explosions on three other unexploded devices, which were hidden in rucksacks.

In the immediate aftermath of the attacks, the Spanish government names the Basque separatist group Eta as the main suspect. But evidence simultaneously emerges that Islamic militants might be behind the attacks.

The evidence includes the discovery of a stolen van containing seven detonators and an Arabic language tape close to a Madrid station.

A letter sent to a London-based Arabic newspaper claims responsibility for the attacks on behalf of the Abu Hafs al-Masri Brigades, a group that aligns itself to Osama Bin Laden's al-Qaeda network. The accuracy of the claim cannot be verified.

13 March: Five men are arrested in connection with a mobile phone found inside a bag of explosives which failed to go off. They are three Moroccans and two Indians. One of the Moroccans is named as Jamal Zougam, who is alleged to have links with the suspected leader of an al-Qaeda cell in Spain.

14 March: A video claiming responsibility for the attack purporting to be from al-Qaeda's military spokesman in Europe is uncovered. The speaker says the attacks were revenge for Spain's "collaboration with the criminals Bush and his allies".

Spain's Socialist Party wins a surprise victory in the country's general election, after voters appear to turn on the government over its handling of the Madrid attacks.

15 March: The man set to be the new prime minister, Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero, condemns the war in Iraq and threatens to pull Spanish troops out of the country.

18 March: Five men are arrested over the Madrid attacks - four Moroccans and a Spaniard. One of the Moroccans is freed without charge a few days later.

19 March: The five men arrested two days after the attacks are remanded in custody. They are:


Moroccans Jamal Zougam, Mohamed Bekkali and Mohamed Chaoui, who are provisionally charged with multiple counts of murder, attempted murder, stealing a vehicle, belonging to a terrorist organisation and four counts of carrying out terrorist acts.

Two Indian nationals Vinay Kohly and Suresh Kumar, held on suspicion of collaborating with a terrorist organisation, of fraud and of falsifying documents.
20-21 March: More suspects arrested in separate raids. They include a two Moroccan men and a Moroccan woman.

23 March: Four men arrested on 18 March are remanded in custody. They are:


Spaniard Jose Emilio Suarez Trashorras, accused of supplying the explosives for the attacks and facing charges of multiple counts of murder, as well as attempted murder, robbery and terrorism charges.

Moroccan Abderrahim Zbakh, accused of multiple murders and attempted murders, robbery and collaborating or belonging to a terrorist organisation.

Moroccans Mohamed El Hadi Chedadi and Abdelouahid Berrak, facing charges of collaborating with or belonging to a terrorist organisation.
Another Moroccan man who was being held is freed without charge.

The same day, another Moroccan man is arrested over the Madrid blasts.

24 March: Syrian man arrested.

Two more suspects are provisionally charged with collaborating with a terrorist group - a Moroccan man, Rafa Zuher, and the only woman suspect so far, Naima Oulad Akcha, also Moroccan.

26 March: Another suspect, Moroccan Faisal Alluch is provisionally charged with collaborating with a terrorist group.

30 March: Spain names an Islamist extremist group, the Moroccan Islamic Combatant Group, as the main focus of the Madrid investigation.

Provisional charges are laid against two more suspects held in detention. They are:


Syrian Basel Ghayoun, accused of mass murder and belonging to a terrorist organisation.

Moroccan Hamid Ahmidam, accused of collaborating with a terrorist organisation.
Spanish police also arrest a Moroccan man, Otman El Gnaout.

31 March: Spain issues international arrest warrants for five Moroccans and a Tunisian, identified as Sarhane ben Abdelmajid Fakhet and described as the leader of the group suspected of carrying out the Madrid attacks.

2 April: An unexploded bomb is found on the high-speed rail link between Madrid and Seville. Tests later show that the explosives matched the type used in the 11 March attacks.

Provisional charges are laid against a 15th suspect. Moroccan man Otman El Gnaout is accused of collaboration with or membership of a terrorist organisation.


3 April: Four suspects wanted for the Madrid train bomb attacks die during a police raid on an apartment in Leganes, a suburb of Madrid, the interior ministry says.

Among the dead is the alleged ringleader of the Madrid bombings, Sarhane ben Abdelmajid Fakhet, a Tunisian named in the international arrest warrants, the authorities say.

Another of those killed is identified as Abdennabi Kounjaa, a Moroccan also named in the arrest warrants, Spain says.

A third man is named as Arrisse Rifat Anouar.

One police officer is killed and at least 11 injured.

5 April:

Officials announce two more arrests - one in Madrid, the other in Ceuta.

Police examine a fax threatening to "make blood flow like rivers" if Spanish troops remain in Iraq and Afghanistan. The fax comes from a group claiming both the 11 March bombings and the foiled attack on the Madrid-Seville rail link.

7 April:

Two Moroccans are detained and provisionally charged with terrorism offences. Rachid Adli is arrested near Madrid, and is reported to have admitted meeting Jamal Zougam, one of the key suspects in custody.

The other Moroccan, Abdelilah el Fuad, is arrested in the Spanish enclave of Ceuta in North Africa. Spanish media said he had been at a house where the bombers are believed to have prepared the devices and activated the mobile phones that triggered the train explosions. Mr Fuad is also said to have bought a car used to go to Asturias to collect explosives for the 11 March attacks.

12 April:

Three more suspects arrested: Fouad el Mourabit, a Moroccan, is provisionally charged with collaborating with terrorists. The other two suspects are not named.

16 April:

Spanish police arrest three more suspects, reportedly from Morocco, Saudi Arabia and Egypt. Their names are not released.

26 April:

The interior ministry issues five new arrest warrants - and the pictures of the suspects wanted in connection with the attacks.

Their names are: Mohamed Afalah, Mohamed Belhadj, Abdelmajid Bouchar, Mohamed Bouharrat and Hicham Ahmidan. Their nationalities were not given.

Earlier in the day, a Spanish magistrate investigating the bombings ordered two Moroccan brothers, Abdennabid and Mohamed Cheddadi, to be freed.

But he ordered the brothers to keep the court informed of their whereabouts, a court official said.

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« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2005, 10:40:07 AM »

This government is far from being politically correct. I see Middle Eastern being arrested everyday. Also, who said the attackers will necessary be Middle Eastern? There are a lot of fanatical groups of Americans, thanks in part to Bush, can now buy pretty much whatever they want to arm themselves. That worries me more then the foreigners. I don't see curfew happening unless the people revolt against the government. After all they need us to work 24/7 producing goods, spending money, feeding the machine. I agree with you J.D. there are a lot of questions and a lack of answers. Should we continue to pound the Middle East knowing that this will lead to tragedy on our soil, but not forget to watch our own people, which just sets off more paranoia, which leads to more dumbsh*ts doing whatever they're told by our leaders and forcing us to turn on each other, keeping us busy and in the meantime taking away the freedom we've worked so hard for.
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« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2005, 10:44:31 AM »

I cant say I am the best when it comes to "American Pride". Personally I don't feel that we are living in the true America due to all the laws and regulations and injustices that the REAL Americans are made to deal with. I do feel that it is just a matter of time before our country is subjected to the same things the other countries deal with... and no offense... but why shouldn't we be? We act like terrorism is a new thing... it's not. Countries for thousands of years have been dealing with the problems that are still going on to this day. Yes, I am glad that we aren't having to deal with daily car bombings or anything of that nature, but honestly... what makes us any better? I would love to see our goverenment (all of it) be taken down and have the normal citizin take it over. All of these big wigs (I dont care what party they are)... are thinking about one thing.. and it is obviously not the little guy/middle class. They forget about us and always will.

To them, what they do is always right and they are God. There will be no convincing them otherwise.. hell, they are politicans. Their jobs are to lie, steal, cheat, manipulate... to get the vote and get thier paycheck... it will always be that way... always has.

I pray that the terror that so many contries face does not make it's way to our own, but only time will tell and chances are that it will. May God be with this country when it does... because it will be a whole new world. I have a feeling it will be communities on thier own and for themselves. Friends and family will have to stick together and do what they can, because ultimately that's all we have.

I read this book back in High School and what I can remember of it, it reminds me a lot of this topic... it shows what small towns and communities had to do when thier country was being invaded.. I strongly recommend reading it. The book is called Alas Babylon. It takes place in Central Florida and was written during the Cold War.
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« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2005, 10:56:31 AM »

I'm not really scared of the guns , it's the explosive humans that bother me . The fact that florida is a peninsula dont really make me feel very good either . If these dumba$$e$ learn to harness the power of Hurricanes we are in deep CRAP . Think of a dirty bomb that travels north with windspeeds of 100mph plus .  Can  I75 , 95 , & the Turn Pike handle that ? I can hear it now " Allah this & Allah that . 
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« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2005, 11:07:13 AM »

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« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2005, 11:35:40 AM »

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« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2005, 11:41:10 AM »

As the people who made it through the first blast turned to run towards the stairs , another train came in and blew up just below where the black guy with the grey shirt is standing ...."preventing their escape .
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« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2005, 11:48:33 AM »

man that's dirty. the part that really burns I disagree about these nutless bastards is they attack the innocent.
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« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2005, 01:10:46 PM »

Are we being protected by our second ammendment rights and not realizing it . They know we are armed in very large numbers . If a riot in L.A. could go on so long with litlle to be done to control it maybe .......just maybe they are sceered of the Good Ole Boys with deer rifles .A nation full of Mad Armed Americans could get you to Allah pretty quick. Common Sense . We are a very strong force to recon with and they know it . We should all thank our Founding Fathers....They planned ahead .
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« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2005, 01:39:19 PM »

Another reason to add to the family arsonal, hehe.
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« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2005, 01:50:42 PM »

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           IF THEY TRY IT HERE ID SAY NUKEM DONT HAVE TO WORRY ANY MORE
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« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2005, 04:54:45 PM »

do you think for one minute if big companys  could make money on it that it wouldn't happen ,like yesterday
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« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2005, 05:01:23 PM »

Funny how they used a situation where they were guaranteed no weapons would  be used against them on 9 11 . No one on the plane had a weapon .They're skeered of us . Wink
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« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2005, 05:06:01 PM »

I have a British friend who was in the military in England.  They have dealt with IRA terrorist for years.  I asked him one day how you defend against terrorist.  His answer was "You can't.  It's just something that you learn to live with."  He did go on to say they were "very proactive" about dealing with leads of suspected terrorist.  This led to a conversation about violation of personal rights.  It's felt if they can prevent some body bags being filled it's worth giving up some rights.  

I do think America will see more terrorist attacks, like the DC sniper attacks.  I just hope the gov't doesn't react by taking away my ability to defind myself with deadly force.  I want my concealed weapons permit to allow me to carry something more deadly than a sharpened pencil.
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« Reply #17 on: June 09, 2005, 06:12:01 PM »

I just want to kill every terrorsist there is out there.  It would be awesome if it was that simple.
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