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« on: October 03, 2008, 04:56:52 PM »

ok   taking off   the air box  where would you start  with the mian  jets way up high or just a lil bit over stock? if anyone knows something its greatly   apricateed   will be staring  next week to mess with jetting 2005 kfx 400
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« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2008, 05:25:03 PM »

ok here #1 read the damn manual that the jets come in  duh  lol
kfx 400  sucks;  get back to work on the eiger
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« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2008, 06:50:59 PM »

no  4x4 suck lol    kfx much better and alot more fun to ride
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« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2008, 07:06:26 PM »

Does it have an aftermarket pipe? Stock pipe? Baffle taken out? K&N or foam filter?
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« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2008, 07:30:17 PM »

esr air box elimination         and got baffle taken out and power tip put on   for now
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« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2008, 08:01:30 PM »

the k and n style filter  with the outa wears on it
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« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2008, 08:24:37 AM »

Here are a couple of links that might help.

http://www.z400central.com/invision/index.php?showtopic=80881&hl=JETTING+NO+AIRBOX+STOCK+EXHAUST+BAFFLE

http://www.z400central.com/invision/index.php?showtopic=39000&hl=JETTING+NO+AIRBOX+STOCK+EXHAUST+BAFFLE
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« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2008, 09:20:17 AM »

id go up 10 on the main jet and call it good. all you need to do is run the thing wot, if it pops, its lean, if it winds out fine, your ok. i doubt you changed anything enough to need to play with the needle, but if so, thats something you will have to get a feel for.
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« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2008, 09:51:33 AM »

i got the dyno jet  jet kit   so i can put the new needle  ad stuff  out of it  adjustable fuel screw  you all think hats good idea?   and thank you all for the help looks like i would be around   150 or up main jet and 3 or 4 on needle  it should be good    ill keep u all posted   on the prog
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« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2008, 10:34:06 AM »

i got the dyno jet  jet kit   so i can put the new needle  ad stuff  out of it  adjustable fuel screw  you all think hats good idea?   and thank you all for the help looks like i would be around   150 or up main jet and 3 or 4 on needle  it should be good    ill keep u all posted   on the prog

I have a friend with 2 Z400. They both have a closed airbox with just the snorkle removed. They both have a Yoshimura slip on. He is running a 150 in one and a 152 in the other. I think you would be closer to 160.

Remember dyno jets are different than stock ones.

Width------Keihin # -- DynoJets # -- Mikuni #
0.0350---- 92.5--------- 92----------- 86.3
0.0360---- 95----------- 94----------- 88.1
0.0370---- 97.5--------- 96----------- 90.0
0.0380---- 100---------- 98----------- 91.9
0.0390---- 102.5------- 100---------- 93.8
0.0400---- 105--------- 102---------- 95.6
0.0410---- 107.5------- 104---------- 97.5
0.0420---- 110--------- 106---------- 99.4
0.0430---- 112.5------- 108--------- 101.3
0.0440---- 115--------- 110--------- 103.1
0.0450---- 117.5------- 112--------- 105.0
0.0460---- 120--------- 114--------- 106.9
0.0470---- 122.5------- 116--------- 108.8
0.0480---- 125--------- 118--------- 110.6
0.0490---- 127.5------- 120--------- 112.5
0.0500---- 130--------- 122--------- 114.4
0.0510---- 132.5------- 124--------- 116.3
0.0520---- 135--------- 126--------- 118.1
0.0530---- 137.5------- 128--------- 120.0
0.0540---- 140--------- 130--------- 121.9
0.0550---- 142.5------- 132--------- 123.8
0.0560---- 145--------- 134--------- 125.6
0.0570---- 147.5------- 136--------- 127.5
0.0580---- 150--------- 138--------- 129.4
0.0590---- 152.5------- 140--------- 131.3
0.0600---- 155--------- 142--------- 133.1
0.0610---- 157.5------- 144--------- 135.0
0.0620---- 160--------- 146--------- 136.9
0.0630---- 162.5------- 148--------- 138.8
0.0640---- 165--------- 150--------- 140.6
0.0650---- 167.5------- 152--------- 142.5
0.0660---- 170--------- 154--------- 144.4
0.0670---- 172.5------- 156--------- 146.3
0.0680---- 175--------- 158--------- 148.1
0.0690---- 177.5------- 160--------- 150.0
0.0700---- 180--------- 162--------- 151.9
0.0710---- 182.5------- 164--------- 153.8
0.0720---- 185--------- 166--------- 155.6
0.0730---- 187.5------- 168--------- 157.5
0.0740---- 190--------- 170--------- 159.4
0.0750---- 192.5------- 172--------- 161.3
0.0760---- 195--------- 174--------- 163.1
0.0770---- 197.5------- 176--------- 165.0
0.0780---- 200--------- 178--------- 166.9
0.0790---- 202.5------- 180--------- 168.8
0.0800---- 205--------- 182--------- 170.6
0.0810---- 207.5------- 184--------- 172.5
0.0820---- 210--------- 186--------- 174.4
0.0830---- 212.5------- 188--------- 176.3
0.0840---- 215--------- 190--------- 178.1
0.0850---- 217.5------- 192--------- 180.0
0.0860---- 220--------- 194--------- 181.9
0.0870---- 222.5------- 196--------- 183.7
0.0880---- 225--------- 198--------- 185.6
0.0890---- 227.5------- 200--------- 187.5
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« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2008, 10:58:52 AM »

basically follow dynojets instructions for stage 1 accept for their main jet recommendation becasue it is for the lid being on. put the dynojet clip in on the 3rd clip, turn the air/fuel screw 3.5 turns out from all the way down. and id probably go with something in the 135-140 range for the main jet. and then go from their. if you put a 140 in and it feels to be a bit rich, you could always take the end cap off your exhaust and it may be enough to get it right on the money.
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« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2008, 08:49:21 PM »

my end cap is hollowed  out its just a crome tip  with like 3 inch outlet   no screen or nothing   lol  shots a flame out it now if i am on gas real hardthen  get off it   just cut fenders  today my parts shoul d be  in soon ill be messing with it this weekend
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« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2008, 08:52:22 PM »

my end cap is hollowed  out its just a crome tip  with like 3 inch outlet   no screen or nothing   lol  shots a flame out it now if i am on gas real hardthen  get off it   just cut fenders  today my parts shoul d be  in soon ill be messing with it this weekend

with no endcap, and no airlid, id say a 140 main jet should be about right. when you get your jet kit, you could probably just folow the stage 2 instruction which are for a pipe and intake and then instead of using the 150 main jet that they recommend, go with a 140.
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« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2008, 09:33:14 PM »

i got no box   not just no lid
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« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2008, 09:37:42 PM »

i got no box   not just no lid

same thing as far as jetting, only difference is you have to clean your filter every ride lol. i never really understood having no airbox. i built my uncle a blaster with a biger carb and ran it with no box, becasue i couldn't with the 34mm carb, and it was just kind of impractical.
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« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2008, 09:29:05 AM »

its all about looks  my freind    lol Wink   no  just kiddin look at race cars   they run  filter right on top  of carb  why not  have  a restricted box  or snorkle around it   more  air plus more  fuel  equel more power   Grin   plus it makes me keep  the bike out of mud and water   i always get looked at funny when its covered  in mud  lol
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« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2008, 02:54:16 PM »

its all about looks  my freind    lol Wink   no  just kiddin look at race cars   they run  filter right on top  of carb  why not  have  a restricted box  or snorkle around it   more  air plus more  fuel  equel more power   Grin   plus it makes me keep  the bike out of mud and water   i always get looked at funny when its covered  in mud  lol

lol, race cars have a hood and fender wells. the air is there either way, its just a mater of if you want aitr out of a shielded box, or dirt mixed with air flinging off of your tires lol. im just kiding with you tho, open filters are fine. id just rather a box for when its wet out.
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« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2008, 05:59:01 PM »

yea its all good
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« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2008, 03:43:33 PM »

ok   i got the lrd complete   system   to add to my bike now.   



my jetting is already   3rd clip on needle
160 main jet
and fuel screw is out  3.5 turns


i have dyno jet jet kit   how much more will i have to go up on the main you think 165 or 170?

i got header and new pipe to be put on   thanx agian or the help

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