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Author Topic: BACK FIRE ON DECEL  (Read 7140 times)
dreth
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« on: November 07, 2004, 05:06:08 PM »

my 450r is sometimes backfiring on the decel......new sparks exhaust, sparks filter, 190 main........runs strong though?
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« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2004, 07:21:30 AM »

I used to call that my "warning" to the other riders behind me that there was a turn coming up ;-)

of course, that was on my LT230 Quadsport.

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« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2004, 09:47:44 AM »

Backfiring is usually caused by fowling plug or excessive gas, might be funning too rich with the 190 mains.
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« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2004, 04:08:09 PM »

I have heard of a lot of people with that problem. It is very common. Check out this site www.trx450r.org. It is the best 450R site on the net. There is a lot of good/usefull information there.
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« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2004, 05:17:16 PM »

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« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2004, 06:41:36 PM »

 Might be Lean, back the fuel screw out 1/2 turn.
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« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2004, 08:43:04 AM »

need to make a pilot jet adjustment...........I assume you are running the stock one?   The jets are cheap and you and you can go up 1 or two sizes to fix the problem.  If it is poping now, it is only going to do it more once it gets a little cooler.  You are auctually a little lean on deceleration, which people really dont think about alot.

When you come down off the main jet there is a gap before the pilot jet can supply enough fuel, the result is a backfire or a "pop" more likely.  A little bigger pilot jet will make this transition and fix the popping issue.
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« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2004, 03:45:42 PM »

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need to make a pilot jet adjustment...........I assume you are running the stock one?   The jets are cheap and you and you can go up 1 or two sizes to fix the problem.  If it is poping now, it is only going to do it more once it gets a little cooler.  You are auctually a little lean on deceleration, which people really dont think about alot.

When you come down off the main jet there is a gap before the pilot jet can supply enough fuel, the result is a backfire or a "pop" more likely.  A little bigger pilot jet will make this transition and fix the popping issue.


my jet needle is a c51b, the stock needle was a c55a. jet needle clip is in the 3rd groove
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« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2004, 04:48:23 PM »

Your needle might be fine, he is talking about the pilot jet, it and the needle combined controls 90% of the fuel metering in a carb. you probably need to go up on your pilot jet a size or two.
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« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2004, 02:44:20 PM »

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need to make a pilot jet adjustment...........I assume you are running the stock one?   The jets are cheap and you and you can go up 1 or two sizes to fix the problem.  If it is poping now, it is only going to do it more once it gets a little cooler.  You are auctually a little lean on deceleration, which people really dont think about alot.

When you come down off the main jet there is a gap before the pilot jet can supply enough fuel, the result is a backfire or a "pop" more likely.  A little bigger pilot jet will make this transition and fix the popping issue.

That is where my problem was at, in the pilot. I picked up the Jet4power kit and found that even at a 48 pilot I was still a touch lean, got the 50  and waiting to install it.I hate Moving
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« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2004, 05:49:51 AM »

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« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2004, 06:36:58 AM »

Your pipe is prob loose or has a air leak..I know that will cause it to pop on decel every time.
Mine had the same problem I was trying to correct it with the jetting at first, then noticed the pipe was just a little loose and that fixed it right up.
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« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2004, 07:55:03 AM »

Are still have the problem?
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« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2004, 08:58:15 AM »

buy a 2 stroke!  Grin
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« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2004, 07:25:49 PM »

both anotherslow400ex and A.T.P racing are correct right the problem is in size of the pilot jet. Engine performance worsens when the air filter is removed.
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