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« on: December 01, 2007, 06:52:40 PM »

Who's going to be there? A few of us went out to the track today and it was great!!! Lets try to get an even bigger turnout at this one!
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« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2007, 08:22:55 PM »

we will be there, hopefully Friday night.  Have they changed the track any?
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« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2007, 12:02:20 AM »

I'm not sure. I wasn't there last year. I will say that it will  be  a fun race for sure!
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« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2007, 12:14:59 PM »

Ill be there. Wink Wont be racing but ill be watching.  Sad See everyone there!!
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« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2007, 12:36:48 PM »

I will most likely be there for pictures so hopefully i'll be allowed on the track.  Please please please get in touch with me before you ride! I only take pictures of those who ask, its just too many to go through if i take them of everyone.  It's $20 for pictures for the weekend ($10 for saturday and $10 for sunday if youre only there one day).
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« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2007, 12:55:32 PM »

we should be there.. im hoping they have made some changes to the track to make it a bit more wider than last time becasue if we get a turnout like we did in lakeland i dont think theres going to be much room on the track for passing!
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« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2007, 04:47:56 PM »

We will be there. It should be a fun weekend with a great turnout.
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« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2007, 05:40:06 PM »

MAN!!! its 30 bucks per person to get in on sat!! thats twice as much as lakeland!! i know they have other events but i can care less about that crap! i dont know if we wil make it now
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« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2007, 07:18:53 PM »

MAN!!! its 30 bucks per person to get in on sat!! thats twice as much as lakeland!! i know they have other events but i can care less about that crap! i dont know if we wil make it now

It was the same thing as last season, which is why I also didn't go. Do I have the money? Yes, but I don't like giving it away either. I think they need to possibly charge the average $15-20 gate fee for the MX ONLY riders and if you want to enjoy the other activities then you can pay the full price. I don't see the point in the racers paying the extra money for the concerts, events, and other stuff that goes on if we're just trying to do motocross. I'll be there regardless this weekend, but I know the heavy gate fee will turn people away for sure.
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« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2007, 08:26:44 PM »

They should give a special arm band for the MXer's and another band if we want to enjoy the rest of the park. Or we shouldn't pay for Saturday practice then if were paying full price at the gate.
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« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2007, 08:44:17 PM »

This will be a good time for us to prove that our numbers are going to be consistant.  When we prove that then we will be able to do better on the gate fees.

Last year--there were 53 entries.  It is hard for a track or facility to come down on their regular prices with numbers like that.

Now if we can get the 170 entries with all the spectators that brings then we will be able to negotiate.
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« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2007, 03:56:45 PM »

Yes more entries are great.  But how are you supposed to get more entries charging that gate fee?   If they want more entries they should lower the gate fee for the people that are just utilizing the MX area.  It's a simple way to encourage more people to come enjoy their MX track for a race.  Lower gate fee=more riders=more money.  If they looked at the numbers they would realize this.........53 entries at $30 a head is $1590.  Ok now 170 riders at $20= $3400..not to mention the friends and family that are going to be charged gate fees which is even more revenue.  Riders will appreciate the break and return and again more business=more money.   .......If they look at the numbers they'd realize they are only hurting themselves by charging that much to racers that are just using the MX track!!!!!!

53 entries at $30 each= $1590

170 entries at $20 each=$3400

do the math.........common L-Cross....you're only hurting your own income and losing potential return customers...........
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« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2007, 04:02:26 PM »

exactly!!! what if the people are leaving sat. night and returning sunday? we should have our own wristband and the people who are willing to pay 30 can enjoy what they have 2 offer. im there to race not to listen to music and whatever else is going on
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« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2007, 04:19:53 PM »

I know every penny counts these days, but this is $10 more than what some of the other tracks are charging(for Saturday entry, I think Lakeland is $20).  This isn't something they did just for our race, it's their normal gate fee.  This is a track that wants to host races for us, unlike some other tracks. The more entries we have to more leverage we have to negotiate such things as two types of arm bands, etc.  I don't think they did so well with our last race with 53 entries after they paid all their expenses. 
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« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2007, 05:11:51 PM »

 thirty dollars is pretty  expensive !!!  especially  if you bring  all your family    family of 4 = big money  !! not counting on race fees  they  can lower the gate fee.  but  why should they   l-cross  is all about the money .   Huh
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« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2007, 07:01:58 PM »

I underand what everyone is saying but could you please tell me what you think it cost to put on a race?
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« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2007, 08:24:28 PM »

Let me see, if I was a landowner in Florida would I want to provide part of my land and my weekends so quads and bikes could have a place to ride? To me the tracks do not owe us anything but we owe them because without people like Lakeland, L-Cross, Amp, Waldo and so on where would we race mx? I could go on and on but I will leave it with this. I hope we have another large turnout so the tracks really want us to return.
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« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2007, 01:36:44 AM »

I understand what everyone is saying and I appreciate all the support from the tracks in Florida.  And I know any competitive event, especially a motocross race is costly in both time and money!  BUT....please read my earlier post...they are only hurting themselves by charging that much.  So they go to all the trouble to put on a race, charge $30 for a gate fee, and make half as much revenue....which means smaller profit!!!!!!!  People going there to race the MX track and not play in the mud or watch a concert should not have to pay the more expensive gate fee....it doesn't makes sense and it will hurt them on entries.  And you can also look at the fact that the people watching the concerts and playing in the mud.....don't pay an extra $20 on top of the $30 to play in the mud or watch a concert.  The racers practicing on Saturday will essentially be paying $50 to practice!  Yes we can hope people will show up to race because we need more entries..........you also have to think what time of the year it is.  IT"S THE HOLIDAYS and Christmas......if you have a family with a mom and a dad and two kids (may be only one is racing) that's $120 in gate fees!!!!  Which is $40 more than the average track.  I hope we do have at least 60 entries this weekend Sad.   But the gate fee is going to be turning a lot of racers away when its Christmas time and not to mention crazy gas prices these days and the cost to even race quads!
   Sorry to go on a rant and I don’t mean to be stepping on toes here.........but if you think about this from a strictly business aspect......they are only hurting themselves.  If you think of it from a riders perspective, you either miss a race or spend that extra money for something you’re not even doing (concert and mudding)  Sad

I wish L-Cross would reconsider.......170 entries would be AT LEAST $1,810 more money coming in this weekend verses the 53 entries from last time.
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« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2007, 05:51:09 AM »

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Children 12 and under are only $5.00 not $30. People coming in on Sunday only pay $15.00. Do any of you know how much it cost for let's just say the Ambulance & insurance. Let's not even go into port-a-lets, garbage pick up, dumpsters.

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« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2007, 07:54:18 AM »

i understan all the fees but why can every other track get away with charging only 15?
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« Reply #20 on: December 13, 2007, 08:56:26 AM »

for those that attended the amp extreme race it cost 115.00 for fri evenng through sunday thats only 15.00 dollars less than l cross, what people dont understand , is that different places have different overhead than othes some already own the land some dont at least you know what it cost upfront unlike the moroso clusterf@#% we had last season they were all over the road, i understand everyones concerne about money, due to reasons other than the lcross gate fees we wont be there this race but if i could i would be there supporting the track  and more important supporting Brett and the ssqsa racing series, lets face it well spend stupid money on parts and ling for our rides, lets make sure we have a place and series to use them, suck it up quit griping about the cost and go race and enjoy the race and the people we race with because that is what its all about.   just my 2cent    Patrick Cullaton, Brad Cullaton  55 shifter, Corey Cullaton 70 moddified
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« Reply #21 on: December 13, 2007, 11:02:41 AM »

I agree with ya R450 chick. Some how L cross is going to have to figure out if they want to be a competitive track in Florida. Just look at some other tracks that are successful in Florida Dade city, Bithlo, Sunshine, Riddick, lakeland just to name a few. There all doing pretty good because of there pricing.
 Don't get me wrong here I think its a pretty good deal for all the activity's that there is at L cross, if your there for everything. I think if they gave an option at the gate half the motocross riders would pay for the hole entertainment deal anyway's. The other half doesn't have utility quads and 4wd trucks to play in the mud, we just want to race! Grin
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« Reply #22 on: December 13, 2007, 12:17:23 PM »

Well, aside from all the arguing, who will be there?
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« Reply #23 on: December 13, 2007, 03:49:41 PM »

Whats the best way to get there from the tampa area? And is there any hotels around?
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« Reply #24 on: December 13, 2007, 07:21:28 PM »

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Take Hwy 60 to Yeehaw Junction. Go South on 441 @ Yeehaw Junction. When you get to the town of Okeechobee go West on 78. Entrance to the property is about 12 miles. Better be looking for the small sign on the right.....very easy to miss........@ least it was last time. Follow dirt road to the back of property.....don't run over the cows Cheesy

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