Re: Saltsdale Feedback

[Hollywood]

Guess that puts me in the stock class too.   I'll be there next month for sure!  [smiley=ThumbsUp.gif]

[Smoknbanshee]

extended swing arms race in pro stock class, up to 12", i made a typo at first, but i modified it.
Strokers are in open class.  They make a serious difference from no stroker to stroker.

[Hoosier Daddy]

what about aftermarket cylinders,

or aftermarket sleeves in stock cylinders?

[1fastltr450]

slowltz isnt going to get anything BUT his a$$ handed to him!!

I guess I might get to feel like you feel every month then and one day when I can get a pipe and all that other stuff I can compete again. you should just take stock out of the name of the class and call it a 400 class

[Hoosier Daddy]

Ya!  i get MINE handed to me just about everytime.......
whacha gonna do??

[Chuck_Norris]

we are looking at that as a matter of fact.  I won't be a TOOL about this, and I want everyone to see this EYE TO EYE, but we are thinking, ceo and I, and everyone that sees EYE TO EYE with us, that we would give trophies 1st - 3rd, then like framed certificates from 4th - 7th, and then a framed certificate for all the other kids participating.  I know some people might call me a TOOL for not giving all the kids a trophy, but they are not cheap.  I can't remember anymore terms to use from the the bullcrap that has been posted on here, but had to throw some in.

My kids got a blast out of just racing and look forward to the next time, so what little you do above and beyond letting them race is more than enough. Daniel cant stop talking about how much fun he had. You put on a great spread thanks
ahead of time.

[BIGWORM3699 ( ECP RACING)]

Same here my kids still talking about racing and are all ready for next month. My oldest would like to race as well but see is out classed riding a 250 but she has just as much fun riding the pits. thanks again for a GREAT place and GREAT people.

[YAMAHONDAMAN]

• No aluminum axles or swing arms.
UH OH !!!!  Guess i'll stretch a steel one "ole heavy thing" !
Hey BIG ...Kid's like that stuff .. better than CROOM i think ?
HEY SMOKEY .... How bout the Wall PLAQUE Thingy ??
HEY YOU GUY'S !!!!
The GEO. People were AMAZED about the "ORANGE CRUSHER"
and The "TRIBAL Hill Bikes" !!! little bit more tuning and go get
the "FLORIDA" Money Back !!  20,000 Dollar Bikes Against
4500.00 Dollar Bikes ...........NOT BAD !!

[Quad32x]

WOW !!!  If  I  read  that  right  stock  sounds  a  lot  like  the  mod  class  to  me.  I  think  its  fine  the  way  you  run  it  now  with  just  allowing  the  paddle  tires.  Only  change  I  would  make  would  be  the  401cc plus  stock  class  for  the  450 , 500 , 660 , 700 cc  bikes  that  cant  afford  after  market  parts  but  want  to  race  and  have  a  chance  to  place  or  win  something.  

[PAPA_TRIBAL]

HEY SMOKE: I THINK THINGS ARE WORKING FINE THE WAY THEY ARE. I HAVE SEEN THIS THING REALLY GROW IN THE LAST 5 OR 6 MONTHS. I WOULD LEAVE IT BE FOR NOW. IF ITS NOT BROKE DONT FIX IT. BUT I DO AGREE WITH THE CHILL MYSTER ON DO A LITTLE MORE FOR THE KIDS. IT MIGHT SOUND CORNY BUT THE KIDS ARE MAKING MEMORIES THAT THEY WILL CHERISH FOR YEARS TO COME. I KNOW MY SPELLING SUXS SOMETIMES. SEEEE YAAA!!!!  PETER PETER PUMPKIN EATER.

[Chuck_Norris]

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Kids class ($15.00 per bike.1st – 4th trophies, 5th – 8th certificate, 9th – to finish certificate)
• 90 cc or less
• 13 yo or less
• no dirtbikes, dirtbikes can race each other during classes.

Stock 350 and less 2 stroke class. ($15.00 per bike, payback $10.00)
Stock 400 and less 4 stroke class. ($15.00 per bike, payback $10.00)
Stock 450 and less 4 stroke class. ($15.00 per bike, payback $10.00)
Utility 4x4 class ($15.00 per bike, payback $10.00)

Stock Classes Restrictions –
• All atv’s must be stock appearing, front and rear fenders can be cut.
• Overbores no larger than .080 over stock.
• No port work or crankcase modification.
• No strokers, lightened cranks or long rod cranks.
• Stock cylinder head, any modification.
• Any reed cage, reed petals, or reed spacer allowed.
• Stock carbs & manifold, any modifications allowed.
• TORS system can be removed.
• Any type exhaust pipes allowed except drag pipes, CPI (in frame) okay.
• Stock air box, lid can be removed, sides & lid can be modified, any style air filter.
• Heavy duty cluctch petals and springs only.  No billet hubs, straight cut gear.
• Ignition timing plates are allowed.
• Stock ignition system only, flywheel can be lightened.
• Any sprocket or tire combination.
• Any shock modification or shock allowed.
• No extended swingarms, bolt on extensions are allowed, 2” maximum.
• No wheelie bars allowed.
• No A arm restrictions.
• No air, electric, override or automatic shifter allowed.
• Gasoline only.
• All atv’s are subject to tear down for non compliance of rules.  $100.00 dollar protest rule.

Pro Stock Class (2 stroke and 4 stroke together) ($15.00 per bike, payback $10.00)
• All atv’s must be stock appearing, front and rear fenders can be cut.
• Overbores no larger than .080 over stock.
• No strokers, lightened cranks or long rod cranks.
• Portwork allowed.
• Aftermarket cylinder heads allowed.
• Any reed cage, reed petals, or reed spacer allowed.
• Any carbs & manifold, any modifications allowed.
• TORS system can be removed.
• Any type exhaust pipes allowed except drag pipes, CPI (in frame) okay.
• Any style air filter.
• Ignition timing plates are allowed.
• Stock ignition system, can have aftermarket CDI box.
• Flywheel can be lightened.
• Any sprocket or tire combination.
• Replacement axle carriers are allowed, nothing exotic.
• Replacement sprocket holder, disc brake holders, etc are allowed, nothing exotic.
• No aluminum axles or swing arms.
• Any shock modification or shock allowed.
• Wheelie bars allowed.
• Extended swing arms allowed not over 12 inches.
• No A arm restrictions.
• No air, electric, override or automatic transmissions allowed.
• No aftermarket frames.
• Heavy duty clutch plates and springs allowed, no lockups or straight cut gears.
• Gasoline only.
• All atv’s are subject to tear down for non compliance of rules.  $100.00 dollar protest rule.

Open Class ($35.00, payback $30.00)
• Must be an atv, run what ya brung.

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[1fastltr450]

WOW !!!  If  I  read  that  right  stock  sounds  a  lot  like  the  mod  class  to  me.  I  think  its  fine  the  way  you  run  it  now  with  just  allowing  the  paddle  tires.  Only  change  I  would  make  would  be  the  401cc plus  stock  class  for  the  450 , 500 , 660 , 700 cc  bikes  that  cant  afford  after  market  parts  but  want  to  race  and  have  a  chance  to  place  or  win  something.  

perfectly said, the stock class sounds just like our mod class///and on the kids class chillen is right needs to have more stuff for the kids and what is a certificate going to do, that is nothing to a kid most likely will be tore up before they get home, so when someone comes and spends 45 dollrs on 3 kids to sign up to race they are garanteed a 2 cent piece of paper come on guys you can do better then that

[Smoknbanshee]

the certificate is in a frame with a ribbon.  You didn't get one last time you raced in the kids class a few month ago LTZ?  so do we want to leave it the way it is, or change it?

[Quad32x]

Smoke , If  you  make  any  changes  make  a  class  for  the  poor  guys  with  the  401cc  and  up  stockers  that  have  a  hard  enough  time  making  bike  payments  and  cant  afford  aftermarket  goodies  like  the  guys  in  the  mod  class  that  are  killing  them  now !!!!

[1fastltr450]

the certificate is in a frame with a ribbon.  You didn't get one last time you raced in the kids class a few month ago LTZ?  so do we want to leave it the way it is, or change it?

[1fastltr450]

just got off the phone w/ a couple trophy dealers for a case of trophies is 5.00 a piece. If you charge 15 dollars a kid that leaves 10 to go to everything else not counting the raffle ya'll do also.  100 trophies to a case bring some to the track and what is not used take home put up and bring them next time. Not tring to sound like a jerk but there alot of people letting their kids race and the kids need something to show for it.

[Saltsdale_CEO_Huny]

Where is this Trophy Dealer at? We have been around here and cant find trophies that cheap, So we are thinking about getting with some ATV dealers and see if they wanna sdponsor,, tried that once before but didn't get very far with it. I know the 3 trophies this last race ( and they werent very big at all) were well over 10.00 each..... We have also thought about the medallions, were looking into it all.....

[1fastltr450]

the dealers I called were just local here at the house just to see what they cost, it was here in Palatka if you want the name of the place I will get it and # for you I asked about just little trophies 4to 6 inches tall that was a base  and a 4-wheeler trophy top the lady told me $6.00 a piece for a couple and I asked her about if I was to order a bunch ,she said I could get a case for $5.00 a piece. I got a nother place going to call me back w/ the price,I will let you know on that.

[Saltsdale_CEO_Huny]

Thanks Fast, keep us posted... I'm making more calls as well. Only place we found with a really good deal was outta state then wouid have to pay the shipping cost.... Also for anyone interested all the Pics from Race day that I took are now up on the Saltsdale Muddhole web page,,,, Under track events and then NEW PICS I thin,,,, Saltsdalemuddhole.com

[Smoknbanshee]

Fast, we love ya man.  Naw really, thanks for the research, because I can tell you that the CEO and his wife have HUNTED for trophies that are cheap and have not had good luck.  Basically all the stock classes are for stock bikes.  About the only thing that will give you an increase in HP is a pipe or pipes.  I mean LTZ you would run in stock 400 class and do good.  Don't ya think???  Guys I am not doing this for my benefit, cause look what it does to me.  I have to race all the stretched guys, and we know what is going to happen with me.  Probably about the same results as what happened when the GA boys came down.  

[cutngrs]

 ITS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY  IF YOU DONT PUT RULES ON THE CLASSES THIS COULD GET OUT OF HAND  FOR THOSE WHO CANT AFORD TO JROP A LOT CASH IN THERE BIKES  AND THOSE  WHO DONT WANT TO TURN THERE RIDES IN TO FULL BLOWN RACE BIKES  SO PUT RULES ON THE CLASSES SO  WE ALL HAVE A CLASS WE CAN RUN IN  I  LIKE THE RULES SO FAR

[BadCompany350]

Just another note to say thanks for the good time you provided us at the races.  I've been thinkin about your light setup and one thing you may think about changing.  I have a system from porta-tree and the distance from the stage beam to the guard beam is minimum 15 inches per their instructions.  I believe your rollout was only 9 inches, which made it hard for staging in the lanes due to the bike rolling down the hill left from the previous racers.  I think this contributed to the red lights which occurred, because of the short distance from stage to red.  

Classes?,  that's why I run the e.t. races.  I know hardly anyone cheats , but the bracket race puts the outcome in the drivers hands, not the bike buildup.

Look forward to seeing you all in Ga the next couple of weeks, and if not, we'll see you next month in Fla.

badcompany350's Dad  

[YAMAHONDAMAN]

Hey BAD ... THATS WHAT I'M TALK'N BOUT !!!  BRACKET !!
How Bout It CUT  
HECK .... i can Beat That TRIPPLE THING !!!
in the past ... we had a LT-80 Take ALL THE MONEY !!!
We Were FAST !!!   he was consistant !!  
won't make it to GA. this week end ... were hopeing to
make it to VALDOSTA !!!  
Ronnie in Palmghetto

[LE450-RACER#77]

Hey smoke & ceo I have a question for ya. Now that there are more people coming out & you keep saying that you want to pay out more places then why don't you make it where the gate fee covers the property & track but all the race entry fee goes back into the pots for the classes. Just a suggestion since there are more people coming out now. Even if you up the gate fee to 8.00 then still put all the race entry back into the pots.

[RTR_380/450R]

WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SPONSOR TROPHYS FOR THE KIDDIES! CALL ME SMOKE!
JT