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« Reply #25 on: January 18, 2005, 05:04:27 PM » |
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jason no excuses but come on dude he never pulled me when i had my other motor ho wbaout u let me ride the ol honda and i will show ya something in that ob class lol i didnt think u would go for that lol but i dont need a 2 stroke like i said i got the ol stroker comin wont have it this year dont need it anyway but i will have it for next series at sandmountain i gotta keep the 430 for dade city series since its a good mx motor
jason keep it up i will have to spank u on the old z400 lol just mesisn wit ya
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« Reply #26 on: January 18, 2005, 05:05:04 PM » |
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OK that sounds better Brandon. Just give credit where it is due that's all. I watched the video of that last open beginner race and you did a heck of a job coming from behind to get second. The 450R was running good as the pipe really helped but a few more mods and it should be very competitive. I guess we will learn with this one and maybe know what the other one will need. I am ready to see both boys on the same track. Keep up the pressure it makes everybody better. Dale
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« Reply #27 on: January 18, 2005, 05:34:34 PM » |
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i give credit were it is due
that honda was runnin fast
but thos e380's wont have no problem beatin it or me as far as that goes as dare sya my stroker motor wont run with them 4th and 5th gear thats alright though
if ya cant beat em join em lol need to bring my 250r to ya jason let ya do some magic on it
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« Reply #28 on: January 18, 2005, 05:40:09 PM » |
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You guys are killing me, Literally!!! I'm confused as to why you guys are debating about this. The points speak for themselves. Brandon is leading and the Kid (who can ride) is not far behind. He's young and still learning thus probably making him pound for pound the best out at SMS in my opinion. But wait one minute. You guys have all these mods done to your bikes, racing against guys such as myself and others that really don't know what we're doing, have minor mods (Slip on) or no mods at all, and actually holding our own. If I had all these mods done to my bike I should be smoking O/B class as well. I'm actually quite curious now to see how close I can finish if my bike finally makes it through all three motos. I saw that 450R pullin' w/ one of those 250R's this past sunday. THere's no way in hell my bike will do that. W/ that kind of power the kid w/ his ridin' skills should win O/B by half a lap. You as well Brandon.
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« Reply #29 on: January 18, 2005, 05:50:58 PM » |
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well there is 4 or 5 of us that usually run away from everybody rob man u can ride bro i give it to ya i am lookin forward to actually runnin a full race with ya
but like anything else in life if u wanna do it good u got to give 150 percent and spending cash is what u got to do i have no bills yes yes i am spoiled i make over 700 a week an di have nothing better to do with my money than sink it into my bike yea i take alot of pride in it because i built the wholething myself but i dotn have the riding skills jason ,rick,wayne ,joey and all u guys got i am getting better i have only been racing for 4 or 5 months so i like to have a nice bike and it to look like a pro's bike no one ever sai du cant be a begginer and ride a pros bike lol but i will be out of ob next year and let u guys have it i will run am and exp but i will eithe rbe on a stroker ltz or a rtr 250r both should be ready to go hopefully by the next series but we will see what happens even on a rtr380 i doubt i can hand wit jason and thos eguys just very good riders
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« Reply #30 on: January 18, 2005, 06:33:09 PM » |
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OK Let me clear up the mods issue. The 450R started with just the HRC kit from Honda. Then we put a set of tires and a Dura-Blue axle on it. Last week we put a Baldwin full system pipe and we have lots of screwdrivers and wrenches. One more thing and I hope this doesn't offend you JT, but I think the 450R can be enhanced enough to keep up with 250R's. In fact I am out to see if it can be done.You know cam, piston, valves and a port and polish job is going to make a 450R run pretty decent. We shall see what it takes. Also thanks for the compliments on the Kid.
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« Reply #31 on: January 18, 2005, 06:43:53 PM » |
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hey kid dont take this wrong man
my cousin has the blue yfz450
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everything u can do to it very very very fast 4 stroke
and that 250r of jt's was pullin it down the straight with a burnt clutch i dont think a 450r without goin big bore over 500cc is gonna run with those 380's not much can touch them down the straight as u can see the 310 of wes's realed the 450 in sunday he was a good ways behind and he caught it i hate 2 strokes as much as the next guy and want to build a 4 stroke that can hang with those 2 strokes down the straight but unless u go like 520 or 560 i dont think a 4 stroke can hang thats why i am goin 500cc but then u lose alot of engine life but i have a few spare engines so its no biggie if it only last me 10 or 15 races but i am tryin to do the same thing as u beat those damn 380's lol
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« Reply #32 on: January 18, 2005, 06:52:46 PM » |
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I hope you are wrong on that. I don't know until we try. Also I told Brandon T to slow down because I didn't think anyone could catch up but I was wrong and I will take the blame for that loss.
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« Reply #33 on: January 18, 2005, 07:28:11 PM » |
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One last comment and I am done. Sandmountain is the very best place we have ran. I have more fun watching and the "boys" have more fun racing there We have run at Sunshine, Dade City, and Bartow but the riders, and the owners make Sandmountain Speedway very, very fun and exciting. Keep it up and it will always be fun and sucessful. Dale
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« Reply #34 on: January 18, 2005, 07:49:04 PM » |
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Not quite convinced that a punched 450 wont hang w/ a 380 RTR quad! You have to invest mucho coin to get it to, but the last time I checked it wasnt cheap for anyone! You punch out the 450 and it will do very very well! The only place my quad will have an advantage is going into the corner! Through the corners is a different story! The big 4 strokes always make a bike length or two on me there! Thats why you see alot of riders on 2 strokes losing a race. Cant handle the wickedness of it! Thats where RACE EXPERIENCE comes into play! If I get close I WILL PASS YOU! But you can have all the motor in the world and it wont matter w/o skill! The "KID" is developing alot of skill! SO! When your ready to beef that bad boy up! Give me a call! I might no someone who will do it for ya! Also, hang around after a race and ride w/ us! Would love to get behind him for a couple of laps! Maybe i could learn a thing or two! TEACH AN OLD DOG NEW TRICKS! SOUNDS LIKE BRANDON IS GETTING WORRIED! JT
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« Reply #35 on: January 18, 2005, 07:58:14 PM » |
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lol far from worried my brotha lol i will put a friggin jet engine on a frame and come out and spank some ass on it not worried about being out rode by anyone at sandmountain just about 5 or 6 guys out there who i cant outride and all of them all old guys lol just got outbiked the last couple of weeks like i said i have no problem put 5 k into a motor so peeps need to not rub it in to much as to i dont throw it in his face when i beat him 4 times this series
he wont out bike my stroker motor next series nore will that 450 pull my cs 430 motor on a mx track but i dont got the stroker done yet as to making sure it perfect and getting max horespower out of it i dont think the 380's will pull the stroker motor nore will they pull a 520r or 560r but u better have a backup motor when u go that big cause it can go at anytime
guess i will have to be the giant killer and put that 380 down with the ol z400 stroker motor lol not sayin how many cc's i need to beet that lil 250 though lol
ill wont beat those 380's until i improve a bunch in ridin skill oh well maybe next year
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« Reply #36 on: January 18, 2005, 07:59:30 PM » |
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I hope you are wrong on that. I don't know until we try. Also I told Brandon T to slow down because I didn't think anyone could catch up but I was wrong and I will take the blame for that loss. One thing you never want to do is "SLOW UP" w/ WES behind you! Hes like the energizer bunny! He is the best rider out there and his quad is VERY VERY FAST! Instead of slowing up, next time i would suggest WRECKING HIM! Just slam him into the railing or something! Its almost the only way to beat him!!!! The only way I beat him is w/ my "JEDI MONTRA"! jt
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« Reply #37 on: January 18, 2005, 08:05:19 PM » |
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I dont need motor for you Brandon! What I have is plenty! I think I'll rely on riding ability for you! Lets not forget that Marshall has a quad of his own now! Lets see you boys beat his 450R!! The boy is out of his mind! Ill give you a hint! ITS NOT A 4 STROKE!! WHAT CAN I SAY! WE HAVE SOME SPARE PARTS LAYING ROUND!!!!
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« Reply #38 on: January 19, 2005, 04:23:07 AM » |
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ya ya talk that smack now brotha but give me till next year u wont be saying that i got a practice track across from my house i am running 2 different race tracks every weekend oh yea i am slowly getting better your time will come may not be tommorow may not be 2 months from now but oh yes it will come lol
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« Reply #39 on: January 19, 2005, 05:33:16 AM » |
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wait,wait,wait....hold the phone here!! did i hear correct??did brandon say he will be riding a 250r built by rtr racing?? im sure i must have read that wrong?? cause...last i heard there was a huge debate that rtr couldnt build a fast bike...like super duperest star curtis sparks??? seems like i remember it like it was yesterday??hmmmm.......open mouth, insert foot!!!! now thats funny!!! ps. jt, when is the next event at sms? pss. just jerkin your chain bran!! psss. hey dale, i think its awesome to hear from a proud pappa on hear!!! im a dad too
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« Reply #40 on: January 19, 2005, 12:06:50 PM » |
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That has been my dad talkin the whole time on my sn. Thankz for the compliments I just like to ride. I cant wait though until I get my 450r so i can really go out there and ride instead of trying to be the fastest i can on 2 totally different bikes.
Looking forward to racin with ya
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« Reply #41 on: January 19, 2005, 01:32:15 PM » |
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lol come on wayne i dont got the time to send it to curtis he has had my head for over 4 months now lol it would be a year before i could get my motor back from him right now its the busy time of year for them guys
so i hate trinity and tom carlson wont do 2 strokes anymore so why no tlet a local guy get er done i am not sure if i will need the 250r i got the stroker motor being built and its supposed to beat the yfz470's by 5 bikes in a drag so i dont know if i will need the 250r or not we will just have to see
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« Reply #42 on: January 19, 2005, 02:26:57 PM » |
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Hey guys, thanks alot. I just figured it out. If we can't beat the big boys with the hopped up Z's and 330's and 380's and so forth then you all saved me a bunch of money in parts and entry fees. Man, I am glad you all told me that cause these boys of mine really don't like losing and I hate putting them in the position of not having a chance to win you know? One more thing, we will be at Bartow MX Sunday if anyone wants to come we might give it one last try. hehe Dale
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« Reply #43 on: January 19, 2005, 03:07:02 PM » |
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lol dale i know the hoppe dup z was pointed toward me lol but u didnt have no problem pullin me this past weekend lol made my z look slow lol
u damn 450's are the reason i am having to stick 4 and 5 k into my motor lol dont gotta worry about not runnin with the 380's it stayed close the 4 strokes get the 2 strokes in the corners so it comes out pretty close down the striaght
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« Reply #44 on: January 19, 2005, 03:38:53 PM » |
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Brandon, I don't know why you took the cheap way out. You put all that money to bump your Z up to a 450 when you coulda easily have saved yourself alot of flow by just outright buying one of the 450's.
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« Reply #45 on: January 19, 2005, 04:18:04 PM » |
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Hey Brandon, How did you make it to the finals anyway? Just finished watching the video and it looks like the 2nd heat you flipped in turn 2 and were then lapped. So whats up SANDMOUNTAIN. We are always told that the results from the 2nd heat supercede the 1st heat. Looks to me that maybe Sandmountain may be catering to certain peeps!!!
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« Reply #46 on: January 19, 2005, 04:57:33 PM » |
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The 2 heats are combined and averaged to determine the final! Sand Mountain wont even cater to me and im special!! I know this because my momma told me so! And also, I rode the short bus to school!
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« Reply #47 on: January 19, 2005, 06:29:09 PM » |
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lol jason u crack me up
like he said there an average and just so the guys in the first moto must have finished all messed up compared to the 2nd moto and i made the final heat lol i didnt think i would make it lol cater to me thats why they started a moto without me a few weeks earlier lol
rob first off anyoen can go buy a 450 and put a pipe on it and they r the most uncomfortable bike u can ride the yfz is honda is ok and i am the type of person to make something fast so i dont mind building a biek so i bought the z400 plus its what i was sponsored on from my uncle and aunt so i was used to the bike when i bought mine
hey jason man send me your nextel 2 way in private message i wanna talk to ya about the 250r man i wanna do something with it make it run hit me up
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« Reply #48 on: January 19, 2005, 06:38:11 PM » |
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Well that upsets me I was standing right there when he turned over I didnt even know who he was till you said that and wouldnt know him if he walked up to me. In this video did you see the guy pointing to him with the yellow flag not offering to even help him pick his quad up that was me. My wife and sister inlaws handle knowing who everyone it is not my job to know you I flag and drive equipment ask anyone if we show favorites. WE DONT AND WE NEVER WILL
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« Reply #49 on: January 19, 2005, 06:42:12 PM » |
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And I didnt know that was you (atvaltz) that we started without I told you my own son missed a race we started without him that same weekend so is that favor or what so 01zx12r ask around
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