changed**** when will someone win the raffle for the rhino at l-cross????

[VForcedave]

Thanks for coming back on a letting everyone know whats up. There will be some additional crap from some, but thats show business. 

[Joedirt]

Thank you  for clearing this up and I am sorry it took this to get a Drawing date set! Do you have to be present to win?


I hope I win the Rhino...


I am Sorry to hear about your Sister, I really am.

[Patricia Pearce]

No, you do not have to be present to win. All tickets that have been sold regardless if they were the original ones for the arctic cat or the rhino will be honored!! I'm
sorry that I was not able to address this earlier as well. It looks like L-Cross was able to bring some entertainment to the site anyway!  By the way bushwacker Mark really likes the picture you made of him. Must have taken a long time. Do you want to be the person who draws the winning ticket for the raffle???

[Mudneck]

So the raffle will come to an end this December. I am satisfied with the response from Patti as long as this occurs.I am sure it was and is frustrating for L-cross but also to us as consumers who bought tickets for this never ending seems like raffle.

We have seen through the years events that you continually make improvements & add things to improve the park. That was never an issue.The raffle was. I for one will be happy when somone wins the prize.

I will take credit for posting the pic,however lack the photoshop/computer skills to make a piecs of artwork like that.We may just roll up there to draw the prize

[CABLEGUY1]

In March of 2006 L-Cross decided to hold a raffle for a Artic cat. We were going to sell tickets for $10.00 each, for every 5 you bought at one time you received an additional one for free. There were a total of 1,500 to do this with. After 8 months of trying to sell the tickets we had only sold 273. We were asked by our customers to change the raffle from an Artic cat to a Rhino. After 3 months of advertising on our site and this one, we posted anyone who wanted a refund could have one. If not they could  hold on to the original tickets and they would be honored in the new rhino drawing. In order to get out of the agreement we had with the Artic cat dealership we gave them all of the money that was collected so far. We started fresh with 1,000 tickets for the Rhino drawing in November of 2006 the #'s are 500 - 1,000. We have less than 100 tickets left and will be having the raffle in December in public on the L-Cross stage and one Lucky winner will win the 2007 Rhino that we have advertised for the past 11 months. We have not done anything wrong. The negative posts have not helped ticket sales that's for sure.It is not unusual that high dollar prizes take a year to sell all of the tickets. Also, remember we are only open 17 times a year to sell these tickets. It is not like we are open 7 days a week for business and can sell these tickets every day. Yes, we were ready to suck it up as you say regardless of how many tickets were sold and had the machine there to give it away at the ATV Rally had attendance been greater than it was. But, with only 700 people in attendance at that event and 10% of that going to Shawn & Paul we were barely able to cover the expenses for that event. We had to cover toilets, security, entertainment,insurance and many more expenses. So, with fuel prices being what they are, we have made it thru another year and have tried to give all of you a safe place to come with families every month and 5 times a year without your children and be sure that there are not any families that are offended by beads, etc. We have only done the best we can do with our business and will continue to make improvements as time goes on.

As far as not responding in a timely fashion to this thread, I have been with my sister in Ft Lauderdale as she has had colon cancer surgery and if any of you know someone who has had this surgery you know it is something you need alot of support with. Therefore, yes someone alerted me to this, I read it and I thought it was the same thing that has been going on with the same people as usual. However, now that I am home and have time to read it I understand how it is easy to get caught up in all of this if you do not know Mark & I. I hope I have set some of the record straight. I truly apologize for the raffle taking so long. We advertised that we would raffle the Rhino when all 1,000 tickets were sold and anyone wanting a refund had 90 days to get one. All tickets that have been sold will be honored and we will do this raffle in December on the Stage in Public for everyone to see. L-Cross is a family owned and operated business and we have always done everything by the book! The raffle will be held at the adult event on Saturday night December 29th!

Good Luck to all of the ticketholders
Have a Safe & Happy Holiday!

Mark & Patti Pearce

You say you were asked by your customers to change the prize? Was that everyone who bought a ticket?If not it's illegal to change the prize.You say that in order to get out of the agreement with Artic Cat you had to give them all the money collected.How can you give them someone elses money?That's illegal.What about the people that bought tickets only because they wanted the Artic Cat? They didn't give you money because they wanted to win a Rhino. By law you're supposed to have a specific time set for the drawing. You say you were prepared to "suck it up" and give it away at the Rally but you did not because you only had 700 people attend? Then you obviously were NOT prepared to "suck it up"! Suck it up means that you were prepared to give it away even at a loss.How can you come on here and say you did nothing wrong?That's amazing to me.This was your chance to save face and instead you do nothing but make up excuse after excuse even when it's black and white that the raffle was not done to the standards of the law. That makes you come across as being arrogant. The only legitimate excuse you have for anything is your sisters illness.Yes I know first hand about the effects of having a loved one with colon cancer and for that I have sympathy.As for the other stuff your wrong. You lost a lot of respect and future income from certain members and readers of the site and deservingly so. Admitting making mistakes and apologizing goes a lot farther than denial and arrogance does.Greed is never a good thing. How long before you plug your next event?

[Patricia Pearce]

WOW, I didn't expect that response. We advertised for 90 days that any one not wanting to participate in the raffle after changing the prize from an artic cat to the rhino could receive a refund. We still have all of the money that was paid to us for the raffle. Do you not think I can write a check to the dealer out of our personal business?  We have said MANY, MANY times how sorry we were for this to take so long. We have also said we would NEVER have another raffle. What part of that did you not understand. As for plugging another event, we have 2 for the month of December. The family event will be December 14th-16th.  The adult redneck games event will be December 28th-30th. That is when we will have the drawing for the raffle. I'm sorry, we made a mistake trying to do something to promote our park and give a great prize away as well. What else can I say??? This is another learning experience for Mark and I have we learned?? YOU BET!!!!

[CABLEGUY1]

WOW, I didn't expect that response. We advertised for 90 days that any one not wanting to participate in the raffle after changing the prize from an artic cat to the rhino could receive a refund. We still have all of the money that was paid to us for the raffle. Do you not think I can write a check to the dealer out of our personal business?  We have said MANY, MANY times how sorry we were for this to take so long. We have also said we would NEVER have another raffle. What part of that did you not understand. As for plugging another event, we have 2 for the month of December. The family event will be December 14th-16th.  The adult redneck games event will be December 28th-30th. That is when we will have the drawing for the raffle. I'm sorry, we made a mistake trying to do something to promote our park and give a great prize away as well. What else can I say??? This is another learning experience for Mark and I have we learned?? YOU BET!!!!

You proved my point and in record breaking time I might say. Your sarcastic apology  " sorry for trying to promote our park and give away a great prize" says it all. No admitting to wrong doing or sincere apology will ever come from the all mighty Pearce family. I'm quite sure you can write a check from your personal buisness.No need to flaunt the fact.Heck a few more raffles and you can buy your own Island.Of course you would have to charge an exuberant entry fee to cover all of the expenses.How about responding to the statute for having a raffle that someone posted previously and then tell us again how you did nothing wrong. Keep playing the rightous land owner with good intentions role and I'm sure soon enough everyone will buy into it. Man you don't even wait for the dust to settle before giving the shameless plug do you. Have a good day.

[dynodon]

As I stated before, " I am not one of those who purchased tickets", But I am glad to see a response from L-cross to the matter !!!!
 I will NOT make any negative comments, Only hope the raffle turns out well in December as stated.


My Sympathy for your sister.

[Patricia Pearce]

 
What happened to my original post??? I only see the quote of what I had written???
 

[Anoriginal]

Okay everyone.....group hug.

[shogun323]

What happened to my original post??? I only see the quote of what I had written???
 

Someones elses post must have been deleted. Your post now resides at the bottom of page 8.

[dynodon]

Okay everyone.....group hug.

I`ll bring the cheeseburgers as long as YOU leave the Leapard print thong at home !!!!!! LOL

[kawGIRL]

In order to get out of the agreement we had with the Artic cat dealership we gave them all of the money that was collected so far.

We still have all of the money that was paid to us for the raffle.

 

[Patricia Pearce]

OK, we wrote a check to the dealer from our own personal checking account equivalent to the amount for the tickets sold for the arctic cat. We have not spent the money that is to be used to purchase the Rhino. I guess i should have made myself perfectly clear on that point.

[greenmachine]

OK, we wrote a check to the dealer from our own personal checking account equivalent to the amount for the tickets sold for the arctic cat. We have not spent the money that is to be used to purchase the Rhino. I guess i should have made myself perfectly clear on that point.

So let me get this straight, you didnt ever get an Arctic Cat, sold approximately 500 tickets & gave the A.C. dealer a check in that amount.
In essence you gave up approximately $5,000.00 of your own money to a dealer who never delivered an arctic cat to you?
That is how it sounds.
Just make sure Bushwacker draws the ticket for the raffle & all will be good.
Unless your kids win it, then it would get really crazy.

[suzukitrash]

  We have also said we would NEVER have another raffle. What part of that did you not understand.

All I can say to this whole thing is WOW! I work very hard for my money and after this whole thing going down, you will never get any of my hard earned money that I have worked for. There are other places to go riding. If someone else wants to give you there money that they worked so hard for during the week that is there own decision. Just my personal opinion.

[Chuck_Norris]

  We have also said we would NEVER have another raffle. What part of that did you not understand.

All I can say to this whole thing is WOW! I work very hard for my money and after this whole thing going down, you will never get any of my hard earned money that I have worked for. There are other places to go riding. If someone else wants to give you there money that they worked so hard for during the week that is there own decision. Just my personal opinion.

I will share the above opinion. I will not Participate or contribute to anything having L-Cross related. Several issues have contributed to my decision not just the Raffle Fiasco.

[SWAMP_DONKEY]

  We have also said we would NEVER have another raffle. What part of that did you not understand.

All I can say to this whole thing is WOW! I work very hard for my money and after this whole thing going down, you will never get any of my hard earned money that I have worked for. There are other places to go riding. If someone else wants to give you there money that they worked so hard for during the week that is there own decision. Just my personal opinion.

I will share the above opinion. I will not Participate or contribute to anything having L-Cross related. Several issues have contributed to my decision not just the Raffle Fiasco.

 Well I have to agree I also will not be back.

[CABLEGUY1]

I am anxious to find out if it will be a member of one of the atv sites that wins the drawing or if it will be "A MYSTERIOUS STRANGER". I have a guess but I'll be nice.

[HVYHLR53]

 

[JackL]

Wouldn't it just be perfect if I won. I can assure you I will take it to the holeylands and make that other picture look like something you all would want. 

[Mudneck]

Which event THIS MONTH will it be held at?

[yunt2ride]

Which event THIS MONTH will it be held at?

She had posted that it will be Saturday Dec. 29th at the adult event on stage in the group ride section.

[jrpro130]

Can we have a group hug? I like L-Cross.

[JackL]

Can we have a group hug? I like L-Cross.

Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya....