Hi everyone, and thanks Mr. Bones

[Bleedsblue]

This ordeal is still going on circles....Everyone wants to be a Victim....Once people take responsibility for their actions the drama ends.

I did take responsibility for my actions.  I took it on myself to say that picking on brett was wrong and was very unnecessary.  I have taken an azz kicking for it ever since.  And you crew seems to feel that I should apologize to them for sticking up for someone.  I have actually apologized for any poor choices of words I've used in the past and yet it still goes on that y'all can't just agree to dislike me and leave it be w/o bashing me either on here or on your own site.  So your statement isn't exactly correct about the drama ending.


I took responsibility for my own actions and defended the little guy.  If this is somehow wrong or bad please enlighten me.

Seriously most of us did let it rest but then every so often you come into a thread where a FMR posted and you throw out a shot like the keyboard rider. So again stop trying to act like a victim when the drama got stirred up because you threw a shot out at the FMR's.

Bill

[Joedirt]

This ordeal is still going on circles....Everyone wants to be a Victim....Once people take responsibility for their actions the drama ends.

I did take responsibility for my actions.  I took it on myself to say that picking on brett was wrong and was very unnecessary.  I have taken an azz kicking for it ever since.  And you crew seems to feel that I should apologize to them for sticking up for someone.  I have actually apologized for any poor choices of words I've used in the past and yet it still goes on that y'all can't just agree to dislike me and leave it be w/o bashing me either on here or on your own site.  So your statement isn't exactly correct about the drama ending.


I took responsibility for my own actions and defended the little guy.  If this is somehow wrong or bad please enlighten me.

QT if you would quit being the victim for 5 seconds you would find from your "secret source"..lol...that the whole 3 times your name came up in serious conversation 70% of people have no issue with you because they do not know you.....I am sorry but in life people will not like you....Tons of people dislike me and I really do not mind. Quit trying to depict FMR's as some evil Gang hell bent on hurt Poor QT the Damel in distress...Majority have no opinion....but it is rapidly changing the more you distort the truth.

[Bleedsblue]

Blue at some point in time you finally have to defend yourself.  I was not the one that starting slinging lies and BS.  I started out by asking them to leave him alone in public forum and asking why they felt the need to go after him.  Then I was jumped on and attacked by several of your members.  Yes, at which point I am gonna defend myself.

If you're group were standing there punching me I'd be a moron to just stand there and not do something to block your punches or throw a punch back.  Either way.  It woudn't have mattered.  Had I stood there and let the group beat me up or defended myself things would still be the way they are today cause I stuck up for someone against them and I stood up and said what they were doing was wrong.

Yes of course you have to defend yourself and I would do the same...I do the same thing. But when you resort to personal insults and bashing and it ends there how do you expect the people on the other end of those insults to act? It's not like you came back and apologized or tried to make amends you just left it at that and eventually the site faded away. The letting die thing is a two way street but you are just as guilty as anyone of the FMRs in keeping the fight alive.

Bill

[Bigscrb15]

What's funny is in the past couple years I have never heard a FMR complain about QT sticking up for Brett. It is the other stuff she had done/does that makes people not like her. I think someone has a guilty conscience.

[qt314nfla]

This ordeal is still going on circles....Everyone wants to be a Victim....Once people take responsibility for their actions the drama ends.

I did take responsibility for my actions.  I took it on myself to say that picking on brett was wrong and was very unnecessary.  I have taken an azz kicking for it ever since.  And you crew seems to feel that I should apologize to them for sticking up for someone.  I have actually apologized for any poor choices of words I've used in the past and yet it still goes on that y'all can't just agree to dislike me and leave it be w/o bashing me either on here or on your own site.  So your statement isn't exactly correct about the drama ending.


I took responsibility for my own actions and defended the little guy.  If this is somehow wrong or bad please enlighten me.

QT if you would quit being the victim for 5 seconds you would find from your "secret source"..lol...that the whole 3 times your name came up in serious conversation 70% of people have no issue with you because they do not know you.....I am sorry but in life people will not like you....Tons of people dislike me and I really do not mind. Quit trying to depict FMR's as some evil Gang hell bent on hurt Poor QT the Damel in distress...Majority have no opinion....but it is rapidly changing the more you distort the truth.

I am not a victim.  There will always be those who don't like me and those that will.  I'm fine w/ it either way.  I just don't see why ppl have to be so rude about it.  I did what I thought was right.  I took what was given to me and I still deal w/ it.  Whether it's my fault or y'alls fault it doesn't really matter.  I'm a big girl and can handle myself and stand up for myself as needed.

[BCConviber]

Jesus, what's next? Are we gonna all meet up at the bike rack after school? This ought to make RR real interesting this weekend.  

[Moose]

JohnF, I removed your post. I'll bet it's not who you thought.
People were asked to stop all the crap, the way I read your post you were just adding fuel to the fire we're trying to put out.
Now all these new posts, people, this needs to stop.

I have the FMR logo in my sig and I am proud of it. I used to enjoy this site very much, now we have new ones here that all they do is stir up crap just for the fun of it, using 4 or 5 user names. I've stayed out of most things, because I don't like the taste of my own shoe leather.

It's not fun being a mod, ask yunt, people expect you to be everywhere doing the right thing for them. With a group as large as this has become, there will be personality conflicts, can't be avoided. It's just human nature I guess. I used to tell people about this site all the time, not anymore. I don't want them to see the crap being posted.

This site used to be friendly people looking for places and friends to ride with, it's not like that now.
There's a lot of good people here, just takes a few rotten apples to upset the whole bushel.

[Bigscrb15]

Jesus, what's next? Are we gonna all meet up at the bike rack after school? This ought to make RR real interesting this weekend.  

lol.... I would hope no one involved would resort to a fight or argument at RR, unless some are immature enough to let the internet control their real life.

[qt314nfla]

Blue at some point in time you finally have to defend yourself.  I was not the one that starting slinging lies and BS.  I started out by asking them to leave him alone in public forum and asking why they felt the need to go after him.  Then I was jumped on and attacked by several of your members.  Yes, at which point I am gonna defend myself.

If you're group were standing there punching me I'd be a moron to just stand there and not do something to block your punches or throw a punch back.  Either way.  It woudn't have mattered.  Had I stood there and let the group beat me up or defended myself things would still be the way they are today cause I stuck up for someone against them and I stood up and said what they were doing was wrong.

Yes of course you have to defend yourself and I would do the same...I do the same thing. But when you resort to personal insults and bashing and it ends there how do you expect the people on the other end of those insults to act? It's not like you came back and apologized or tried to make amends you just left it at that and eventually the site faded away. The letting die thing is a two way street but you are just as guilty as anyone of the FMRs in keeping the fight alive.

Bill

Really?  I have apologized to some about things that were said.  Maybe you just haven't heard that side of the story.  I take responsibility for my actions and I try to take the high road.  We are all guilty of making mistakes.  I have only bashed anyone when they started bashing me first.  I do not have a site where I regularly make reference to any of you negatively.  I have only made negative references when I've been refered to that way or been bashed.  If you read enough about me darn near everything I say is as a smart azz or as a joke.  I will say that yes you are right there is a 2 way street in this stupidity.  I was going to not respond to any mudriders posts so as to walk away from it all and let it be a one sided battle.  I think that it is the best way to let the past be the past and take the higher road.  QT out!

[KB]

i wonder what American Highlander would have to say about all this lol

LMFAO, thats funny, I miss him too, he seemed like a good kid.


Hey QT,
 Sounds about how I was taught as a kid about bullying, & sticking up for others & not to kick any one when there down. When I was a kid, sometimes in High School I would wake up in class to some kid being rude to the teacher & have to tell him/ her to shut up, I think some of my teachers hated that they had to fail me, but they did what they had to do.

[qt314nfla]

Jesus, what's next? Are we gonna all meet up at the bike rack after school? This ought to make RR real interesting this weekend.  

Ok, sorry one last comment.  I'll be having jello shots on the big buggy w/ the K that looks like superman.  If you care to have one then come by and say hi.  If not I'll still be waving in sincerity when you go by.  What you chose to do is up to you. 

[Bigscrb15]

JohnF, I removed your post. I'll bet it's not who you thought.
People were asked to stop all the crap, the way I read your post you were just adding fuel to the fire we're trying to put out.
Now all these new posts, people, this needs to stop.

I have the FMR logo in my sig and I am proud of it. I used to enjoy this site very much, now we have new ones here that all they do is stir up crap just for the fun of it, using 4 or 5 user names. I've stayed out of most things, because I don't like the taste of my own shoe leather.

It's not fun being a mod, ask yunt, people expect you to be everywhere doing the right thing for them. With a group as large as this has become, there will be personality conflicts, can't be avoided. It's just human nature I guess. I used to tell people about this site all the time, not anymore. I don't want them to see the crap being posted.

This site used to be friendly people looking for places and friends to ride with, it's not like that now.
There's a lot of good people here, just takes a few rotten apples to upset the whole bushel.

 

I remember the Rodman Ride, Eureke Ride, and other rides just about every weekend that would have atleast 20 people if not 200 show up and have a good time. Nights at the lodge and cabins in Elite, hangin out at Chillins house in the forest. I guess it's all gone and we can blame..... who can we blame? Everyone! I think anyone who has posted in any of the threads is guilty of the downfall of this website. It all started by the teenagers posting stupid crap and now that we see there stupid stuff we just post whatever we want and nothing is about atv's or riding. maybe we can all just have a big group ride sometime and get to know everyones real personalities.

[Bleedsblue]

I have only bashed anyone when they started bashing me first.  I do not have a site where I regularly make reference to any of you negatively.  I have only made negative references when I've been refered to that way or been bashed.

Really so the keyboard rider comment was in reply to what? You mentioned about joking or kidding around but when there is obvious tension between you and another group making a joke or smart remarks isn't going to go over too well with them.

Bill

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[BCConviber]

Jesus, what's next? Are we gonna all meet up at the bike rack after school? This ought to make RR real interesting this weekend.  

Ok, sorry one last comment.  I'll be having jello shots on the big buggy w/ the K that looks like superman.  If you care to have one then come by and say hi.  If not I'll still be waving in sincerity when you go by.  What you chose to do is up to you. 

If I make it out there, I'm afraid I'll have to pass. Enjoy your weekend. 

[Moose]

JohnF, I removed your post. I'll bet it's not who you thought.
People were asked to stop all the crap, the way I read your post you were just adding fuel to the fire we're trying to put out.
Now all these new posts, people, this needs to stop.

it looked as if jackl came out and tried to call a truce at first, we know now that was not the case lol

it was a simple and straight foward question, i had no other intent but to ask if he and joedirt would be friends now, you deleted it. joedirt called jack's posts ignorant, yet you did nothing about that lol. but me asking if they could be friends was uncalled for lol sorry. you wont find joedirts post because he deleted it himself in an attempt to not fuel the fire

The way it looks, I should have removed more posts, maybe all of them.
Don't have to worry about that anymore, I won't remove another post.

There's a lot of good people here, and at the FMR group.
That doesn't mean we all have to get along because that won't happen.
Just agree to not agree. Life is to short for this bull sh*t.

[Chuck_Norris]

JohnF, I removed your post. I'll bet it's not who you thought.
People were asked to stop all the crap, the way I read your post you were just adding fuel to the fire we're trying to put out.
Now all these new posts, people, this needs to stop.

I have the FMR logo in my sig and I am proud of it. I used to enjoy this site very much, now we have new ones here that all they do is stir up crap just for the fun of it, using 4 or 5 user names. I've stayed out of most things, because I don't like the taste of my own shoe leather.

It's not fun being a mod, ask yunt, people expect you to be everywhere doing the right thing for them. With a group as large as this has become, there will be personality conflicts, can't be avoided. It's just human nature I guess. I used to tell people about this site all the time, not anymore. I don't want them to see the crap being posted.

This site used to be friendly people looking for places and friends to ride with, it's not like that now.
There's a lot of good people here, just takes a few rotten apples to upset the whole bushel.

 

I remember the Rodman Ride, Eureke Ride, and other rides just about every weekend that would have atleast 20 people if not 200 show up and have a good time. Nights at the lodge and cabins in Elite, hangin out at Chillins house in the forest. I guess it's all gone and we can blame..... who can we blame? Everyone! I think anyone who has posted in any of the threads is guilty of the downfall of this website. It all started by the teenagers posting stupid crap and now that we see there stupid stuff we just post whatever we want and nothing is about atv's or riding. maybe we can all just have a big group ride sometime and get to know everyones real personalities.

Well said Bruce and Scrub

[Joedirt]

JohnF, I removed your post. I'll bet it's not who you thought.
People were asked to stop all the crap, the way I read your post you were just adding fuel to the fire we're trying to put out.
Now all these new posts, people, this needs to stop.

it looked as if jackl came out and tried to call a truce at first, we know now that was not the case lol

it was a simple and straight foward question, i had no other intent but to ask if he and joedirt would be friends now, you deleted it. joedirt called jack's posts ignorant, yet you did nothing about that lol. but me asking if they could be friends was uncalled for lol sorry. you wont find joedirts post because he deleted it himself in an attempt to not fuel the fire

The way it looks, I should have removed more posts, maybe all of them.
Don't have to worry about that anymore, I won't remove another post.

There's a lot of good people here, and at the FMR group.
That doesn't mean we all have to get along because that won't happen.
Just agree to not agree. Life is to short for this bull sh*t.

i was just using joedirt's post as an example, i dont care what he said to jackl, ive met joe and there is no problem between us

but the way i see it, you shouldnt remove any posts. unless of course its somthing really vulgar, there are young kids on this site. let people say what they want without being moderated. but as you said, agree to disagree

You are Great best friend JohnF.......LMAO

[JackL]

God lord, do you people hijack every single thread!! Looks like everyone has kissed and made up, god for you all. I am going riding. See you at Macks boys.

BTW: I just regained control of my PC from some devious hacker, so if any posts were made from my PB blame that Russian kid.

[JackL]

Seriously most of us did let it rest but then every so often you come into a thread where a FMR posted and you throw out a shot like the keyboard rider. So again stop trying to act like a victim when the drama got stirred up because you threw a shot out at the FMR's.

Bill

Are you serious with this? You guys can't even let something go from three months ago you don't even have first hand knowledge of. Read this and lets make sure we are clear on the definition. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrite
Are you guys so childish that someone makes a joke at your expense or club name you have to relentlessly attack them on every post however non related forever?
Poor old FMR's, they are always the victims of unprovoked attacks. I can't even say that with a straight face.

[Joedirt]

Be safe riding Jackl....

[JackL]

I will certainly try, but accidents happen. 

[Young Gun]

I'm so confused after reading this whole topic.

[Bleedsblue]

Seriously most of us did let it rest but then every so often you come into a thread where a FMR posted and you throw out a shot like the keyboard rider. So again stop trying to act like a victim when the drama got stirred up because you threw a shot out at the FMR's.

Bill

Are you serious with this? You guys can't even let something go from three months ago you don't even have first hand knowledge of. Read this and lets make sure we are clear on the definition. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrite
Are you guys so childish that someone makes a joke at your expense or club name you have to relentlessly attack them on every post however non related forever?
Poor old FMR's, they are always the victims of unprovoked attacks. I can't even say that with a straight face.

LOL. You need to read that defintion again. QT made a comment that seemed directed at the FMRs, you jumped in because your feelings were hurt about not being able to bash Brett any further and PL posted your pic...you know the one that is months old and you just couldn't let go. LOL. So who again in the child?   And no we aren't victims but if you say something about a friend of mind I will step in and respond. It called friendship you should look up the defintion of that also. Could you be any more ignorant?

Bill

[Bleedsblue]

Hypocrisy is the act of condemning another person, when the critic is guilty of the same thing that is being condemned.

Oh yeah, as for Big daddy and his story, that generator was off and the door was open you naive tools, this was our joke until I questioned the RRPOA, River Ranch and the status of our unimproved deeded land in the hunting area for when the state comes and takes it like the north side now, big cypress and the holey lands in the past.

Are you serious with this? You guys can't even let something go from three months ago.