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« Reply #125 on: June 13, 2007, 10:12:04 PM » |
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So was I.
Eminent domain, recognized in both federal and state constitutions, is the power of government to condemn private property and take title for public use, provided owners receive just compensation. Known once as the despotic power, its exercise was restrained by the need to compensate owners and the requirement that the property taken be put to a "public use." For many years, however, courts have read the public-use restraint broadly, enabling governments to take property from one owner, often small and powerless, and transfer it to another, often large and politically connected, all in the name of economic development, urban renewal, or job creation.
The CCC was started as a "job creation", so what do you think?
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« Reply #126 on: June 13, 2007, 10:14:22 PM » |
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I do not think that eminent domain is not the way thay will take RR from us.
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« Reply #127 on: June 13, 2007, 10:45:10 PM » |
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I was thinking of eminent domain as the way they take soem of your land for public use as in some of your yard for streets. I wonder if they could do that with such a large parcel of land under the same guise. I was wondering if more people buy in if they could say it violates some restrictions pertaining to ohv use in Fl. Or if the EPA could say it's too traumatic for the natural environment to sustain, to modify how river ranch is used.
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« Reply #128 on: June 14, 2007, 10:12:09 AM » |
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I heard a rumor about 4? years ago about a "Disney" Corporation (who I was told is a silent backer of Forever Florida) wanting to buy Suburban Estates, River Ranch, and a bunch of little guys in conjunction with the State to combine the 3 lakes WMA so there can be a HUGE Wildlife Attraction like a little Africa of some sort Disney Style Just look at Forever Florida Website and see what it would be like but on a much larger scale http://www.floridaecosafaris.com/index.phpLike I said it was a rumor and this was back when the Eminent Domain thing first started out at Suburban Estates a long time ago and still nothing has come of it I do know that Disney has to buy hundreds of acres of Wetlands to preserve in other places in the state to make up for the damage they do on their land. Just saying
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« Reply #129 on: June 14, 2007, 10:33:04 AM » |
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I heard a rumor about 4? years ago about a "Disney" Corporation (who I was told is a silent backer of Forever Florida) wanting to buy Suburban Estates, River Ranch, and a bunch of little guys in conjunction with the State to combine the 3 lakes WMA so there can be a HUGE Wildlife Attraction like a little Africa of some sort Disney Style Just look at Forever Florida Website and see what it would be like but on a much larger scale http://www.floridaecosafaris.com/index.phpLike I said it was a rumor and this was back when the Eminent Domain thing first started out at Suburban Estates a long time ago and still nothing has come of it I do know that Disney has to buy hundreds of acres of Wetlands to preserve in other places in the state to make up for the damage they do on their land. Just saying Yep, I heard the sane thing. Im calling Myth Busters
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« Reply #130 on: June 14, 2007, 10:36:54 AM » |
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Wait a minute................are you telling me its not a Disney park now. Oh man, that explains the bubble gum on the sidewalks.
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« Reply #131 on: June 14, 2007, 01:06:23 PM » |
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just ride faster. You won't be able to tell if there's gum, tar, or pavement when you hit the right speed
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« Reply #132 on: June 14, 2007, 02:06:06 PM » |
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It takes a while to cross all the T's & dot all the I's. If disney is in fact interested in it, you wont know for sure until they have put all the opposition in their pockets & the little people like the "deed" owners will just get what the land is worth. In that case, the latest "deed" buyers will be getting screwed hard because the only actual land left out there is in swamps or marshes. This has been rumored since the early 80's I know for a fact.
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« Reply #133 on: June 14, 2007, 02:13:03 PM » |
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Glad we don't have big $$ invested in RR or S/E
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« Reply #134 on: June 14, 2007, 02:24:03 PM » |
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You really think they'll get to screw those with big money in their camps? what about those that invest tons of time to make their camp nice and bring out generators, etc that they would otherwise never use ?
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« Reply #135 on: June 14, 2007, 02:30:08 PM » |
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I would like to go there sometime! I am an exelent rider and guest if anyone would let me go with them I could show them how MUD riding is done.
can you drink there?
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« Reply #136 on: June 14, 2007, 02:37:37 PM » |
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Maybe it's a good time to buy stock in Disney
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« Reply #137 on: June 14, 2007, 03:48:21 PM » |
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The value of the land out there is between $600-$1000 per acre. They wont pay you for your structures you build because they are considered unpermitted structures therefore they are technically illegal. This would be the most lodgical reason the state would take over is because of the possibly millions of dollars they have lost in non permitted construction & septic systems. The treehuggers would be all over the septic sytems in a barrel out there.
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« Reply #138 on: June 14, 2007, 04:10:18 PM » |
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I bought my deed for 7 bucks off a band of Gypsies.....
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« Reply #139 on: June 14, 2007, 04:14:22 PM » |
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I bought my deed for 7 bucks off a band of Gypsies..... Joe.........me too! WOW what a small world.......
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« Reply #140 on: June 14, 2007, 04:34:06 PM » |
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I bought my deed for 7 bucks off a band of Gypsies..... Joe.........me too! WOW what a small world....... Did you have to fight your way through the Pirates as well?...
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« Reply #141 on: June 14, 2007, 05:13:21 PM » |
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The value of the land out there is between $600-$1000 per acre. They wont pay you for your structures you build because they are considered unpermitted structures therefore they are technically illegal. This would be the most lodgical reason the state would take over is because of the possibly millions of dollars they have lost in non permitted construction & septic systems. The treehuggers would be all over the septic sytems in a barrel out there.
But since it's all owned by individuals would they have a hard time getting in to prove it? besides they'd have to bring seperate actions against each land owner, it's not like a corporation that they can go after. And with it being so remote (barring a huge investor like Disney) I don't see any reason for trying to take it until development grows that direction. But still it's interesting.
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« Reply #142 on: June 14, 2007, 05:37:02 PM » |
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I bought my deed for 7 bucks off a band of Gypsies..... Joe.........me too! WOW what a small world....... Did you have to fight your way through the Pirates as well?... Nope.........The Pirates are cool....... we drank a few bottles of rum and piss on the two face fool at the end.
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« Reply #143 on: June 14, 2007, 06:03:48 PM » |
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What about wells ? Are you supposed to have permits for those too ?
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« Reply #144 on: June 14, 2007, 06:14:00 PM » |
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« Reply #145 on: June 14, 2007, 06:36:40 PM » |
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LOL you guys really have nothing better to do ? That's sad I'm glad you can have something to talk about by me being here. Must be pretty interesting for you to carry it to other sites as well. Maybe I should put "Infamy over hypocrisy" in my sig Don't worry, I've been called worse by much better
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« Reply #146 on: June 14, 2007, 07:40:17 PM » |
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LOL you guys really have nothing better to do ? That's sad I'm glad you can have something to talk about by me being here. Must be pretty interesting for you to carry it to other sites as well. Maybe I should put "Infamy over hypocrisy" in my sig Don't worry, I've been called worse by much better Yeah it's sad Kind of like a mental midget that logs on sites under different names. Or the half witt that moderates a website and deletes everything he dosen't agree with Yeah it's sad. BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHHOHOHOHOHOHOaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh, wow that was good. Jeff
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« Reply #147 on: June 14, 2007, 08:21:39 PM » |
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Don't worry, I've been called worse by much better Well obviously you dont know any of us very well. The best people you will ever meet (not talking about me, but the rest of the FMR clan). You sir are a huge hypocrite and dont seem to realize that the same stuff that made you mad here, is the same stuff you are doing at the other site. Oh well, sometimes people dont ever learn.
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« Reply #148 on: June 14, 2007, 09:04:49 PM » |
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Its the things you learn went you think you know it all, that counts in life! BD life story volume one
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« Reply #149 on: June 14, 2007, 09:12:53 PM » |
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