"Confederate Heritage" license plate?

[94Hardbody4x4]

This is so funny to see people piss there pants over all this stuff. It's great entertainment.

[#32YammiMan]

No, I would not buy one. Im sure pretty soon their will be more redneck tags then regular ones

Its not so much that I oppose the confederate flag, more that people should fly the American flag. It seems the people that have the confederate flag on their shirts, hats, trucks, etc are trying to promote an image of themselves more than anything else. That image being - Im a redneck with a 4wd truck, yeehaw. You cant argue that alot of people fly it for that reason. Thats why it pisses me off

I tend not to like mexicans because of their disrespect to the country. I hear them all the time saying things like "stupid Americans" yeah, you know that pisses you off too. They can just leave if they dont like it. They steal jobs, overcrowed Florida, medicare, schooling, etc... Jews, I got carried away a little with that one, I was trying to make a point that I dont care if you call me a racist. I really dont have a problem with them. I dont judge people untill I get to know them, but in generall I find that most spanish people are all the same.

Your all going crazy because Im expressing my views a little too openly. You can probably relate to some of things Ive said, you probably wont admit it though. I know you all have said bad things about other races, your not all saints. "damn beaner cut me off in traffic"

If you stop switching things around that I said - I think you will find that theres alot we all agree on

[#32YammiMan]

Oh so the orange groves will just rott, construction will come to a hault, etc ? Theres plenty of willing Americans to do these jobs. Look at the unemployment rate, they just cant compete with the $1 a day mexicans that people take advantage of.

hardbody - Ive been trying to get ahold of you about your truck. Whats the deal?

[94Hardbody4x4]

It's $1200 or best offer. I've talked to you about it. Hope to meet up with you at mudfest.

[94Hardbody4x4]

Oh so the orange groves will just rott, construction will come to a hault, etc ? Theres plenty of willing Americans to do these jobs. Look at the unemployment rate, they just cant compete with the $1 a day mexicans that people take advantage of.

hardbody - Ive been trying to get ahold of you about your truck. Whats the deal?

It's called inflation. Look at what happend when the ditch-digging(literally) mexicans got exported from the largest Construction company in Colorado.

[#32YammiMan]

Not to sound rude but I dont think you know enough about this subject to debate

Inflation is when the price of goods and services goes up, but the worth of the dollar stays the same. Companys pay illegals less because they dont have the paperwork to work anywhere else. If there werent illegals then companys would have to give the American workers a fair pay. That would be giving jobs to uneducated Americans, but in turn raising the price of construction, crops, etc

Do you even know the name of "the largest construction company in Colorado"? Or was it something you overherd your parents talking about at the dinner table?

[94Hardbody4x4]

No Sh^t. When the $4 an hour mexicans got exported, the colorado based company lost hundereds of employees. Not a single other person came for the jobs offered at those rates. The company was forced to raise the hourly rate to $11+ an hour for a DITCH DIGGER! Look it up on google if you dont believe me. I've already goten in an argue ment on this stupid ass subject.

What happends when your company's revinue revolves around the low pay you give your immigrant employees and then you change all that by hundereds of thousands of dollars a year by having to pay more for others to do the same work? You may say, "Oh, it's in Colorado, it doesnt affect us" but if you do what you suggest and remove all of the low payed workers form our florida or american jobs then you will get inflation from businesses being forced to pay employees more to do the same amount of work. They have to compansate for those losses and that compensation translates to increased cost of product which in turn hurts YOUR pocket.

Just think about it...How much would it take for YOU to go pick oranges all day in a field? What would you demand for pay?

I'm just arguing the thing somebody said about "I say we just remove all the immigrant out of america"

[94Hardbody4x4]

But trust me, if CURRENT America could operate without mindless non-english speaking immigrants, then it would be a better world for all of us.

[#32YammiMan]

Companies will adapt, if it costs the consumer more then that is the price we pay to respect the law. If you want to work in this country then do it legally.

"DITCH DIGGER!" you speak of it as such a lowly job not fit for an American. Thats hard manual labor and deserves $11 an hour

[backwoods boy]

u sellin that nissan for 1200

[#32YammiMan]

Hopefully to me this saturday

[backwoods boy]

man r u crazy u could git 4-5g for that thing ive gotta freind that would prolly give yu twice that rite now n he aint even lookin for a truck is it still lifted

[#32YammiMan]

man r u crazy u could git 4-5g for that thing

thats what I thought

[backwoods boy]

is it still lifted

[mudnuri]

Anoriginal, you are right! The reason the Battle flag was designed was because it was too much like the Northern battle flag. It was confusing and we needed something to distingush our troops clearly from far away. That flag became the symbol for unity in the South against the Northern aggression.
I will own one if they are approved. I love people and my country. How can ANYONE say THAT flag cannot be flown/displayed when ANY other flag can? A Cuban flag is communist and it is ALL over.
Why is it that the battle flag of my forefathers is now considered a racist symbol? The North had slaves. George Washington had slaves. So did other presidents from the North.
Jewbacca, you are right in some ways. I can only hope that picture of you was a joke.
I will own one and display it proudly.
and all you crying of no place to ride... Thank a Yank
 

[Loopy]

Here's a bonus question... Anyone know what the civil war was about? (Hint......slavery was only a small part.)

didn't it have something to do with cotton?

In a round about way....yes. The population in the north was growing at an exponential pace compared to that of the South. In addition, the North relied upon the south to support it's textile industry with raw materials. The South had very little say or influence in the newly formed centralized federal government which was now taxing the South, attempting to mandate the manner in which the South did business and how it governed itself on a state by state basis.

Don't forget, the South was made up more of recent immigration to North America than the North. The majority of the South's population came here to avoid an overburdensome rule by a centralized federal government/ruler. The Southern population saw the overreaching northern federal government as a continuation of the oppression they faced in Europe. Basically, the North favored a loose interpretation of the United States Constitution. They wanted to grant the federal government increased powers. The South wanted to reserve all undefined powers to the individual states.

The North also wanted internal improvements designed to primarily assist the north, sponsored by the federal government. This was more roads, railroads,
and canals. The South, on the other hand, did not want these projects to be done at all if they only helped the North. Also the North wanted to develop a tariff. With a high tariff, it protected the Northern manufacturer. It was bad for the South because a high tariff would not let the south trade its cotton for foreign goods. The North also wanted a different banking and currency system and federal subsidies for shipping and internal improvements primarily aimed at benefitting Northern interests. The South felt these were discriminatory and that they favored Northern commercial interests.

Concerning slavery, it was definitely an issue and a heated one at that. However, the majority of the South was made up of people who were too poor to own slaves. Granted, the cotton industry was born on the backs of slaves but, the majority of the Southern slave owners realized slavery was on its way out by virtue of ongoing technological developments in agriculture. What's ironic is that many of the Northern industrialists had vast holdings in the expanding west, primarily in timber. Originally most of the harvesting was done via slavery. However, once technology caught up, these former (now extremely wealthy and empowered) northern slave owners jumped onto the emancipation band wagon. Obviously, the south saw this as but another slap in the face by hippocritical northern industrialists.

Anoriginal, that had to be one of the best cliff-note summaries I have ever read.  It was wonderfully written, thank you for the explanation.

And also, Jewbacca, I understand what your saying, It is very hard to distinguish between jokes, sarcasm, or passion in forums.  Which might lead to how this discussion over a license plate has gone in so many directions.

[Anoriginal]

Loopy:

You know, it does kind of read like a Cliff Note. Guess I should call it a "Matt Note".   

[mudnuri]

Many don't even know that Florida was one of the first state to want to secceed(sp?) from the North. Many also have no clue that our own state flag has the cross of St. Peter in it like the Confederate battle flag.

[greenmachine]

At this rate, this post will pass the Rally post. Whats more important?

[FishaHallic]

I lost interest in this post after reading the original post  .

[greenmachine]

I lost interest in this post after reading the original post  .

Sure ya did.

[Able]

Who (besides Anoriginal) knows where the term "greenbacks" came from and why it was used (also occurred in the deep South during this period) ?

[xr100racer]

This is so funny to see people piss there pants over all this stuff. It's great entertainment.

No Sh^t. When the $4 an hour mexicans got exported, the colorado based company lost hundereds of employees. Not a single other person came for the jobs offered at those rates. The company was forced to raise the hourly rate to $11+ an hour for a DITCH DIGGER! Look it up on google if you dont believe me. I've already goten in an argue ment on this stupid ass subject.

What happends when your company's revinue revolves around the low pay you give your immigrant employees and then you change all that by hundereds of thousands of dollars a year by having to pay more for others to do the same work? You may say, "Oh, it's in Colorado, it doesnt affect us" but if you do what you suggest and remove all of the low payed workers form our florida or american jobs then you will get inflation from businesses being forced to pay employees more to do the same amount of work. They have to compansate for those losses and that compensation translates to increased cost of product which in turn hurts YOUR pocket.

Just think about it...How much would it take for YOU to go pick oranges all day in a field? What would you demand for pay?

I'm just arguing the thing somebody said about "I say we just remove all the immigrant out of america"

oh yeah, all those people getting all upset and arguing. You just sit back and laugh

[Anoriginal]

Who (besides Anoriginal) knows where the term "greenbacks" came from and why it was used (also occurred in the deep South during this period) ?

Oooooohhhhh, that's a good one!

[Loven It]

Who (besides Anoriginal) knows where the term "greenbacks" came from and why it was used (also occurred in the deep South during this period) ?

Greenback as in US Demand Note - another term for Dollar?