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« on: January 02, 2007, 10:42:08 AM »

               

   

Dirt bike riders infuriate neighborhoods


Residents offer to find a legal place for them

By Joe Crankshaw
scripps treasure coast newspapers
Posted January 2 2007

 
The dirt bikes and four-wheeled, all-terrain vehicles that roar through the vacant sand dunes behind Terry Tillman's home in Jensen Beach annoy her and her neighbors.

In fact, she is so annoyed, she wants to help the riders find someplace nearby where they can ride legally -- without disturbing anyone. If no such place can be found, she wants to help build one.



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Tillman is trying to deal with a problem that is vexing government officials and law enforcement agencies across the state.

"These people are trespassing," Tillman said about the people who ride ATVs and dirt bikes. "They are a plague on our neighborhood."

The problem has persisted for years, and residents in Martin, St. Lucie and Indian River counties have complained about noisy dirt bikes and ATVs.

Tillman said most of the riders are juveniles, and even if they get arrested, they are released to their parents.

Environmentalists complain the vehicles damage the environment. They make trails over sand dunes and through fields and woods, disturbing wildlife with their noise and habitat destruction. State legislators took note of the damage and specified that any lands purchased for a riding area for off-highway vehicles must have been heavily disturbed by earlier uses.

Meanwhile, the St. Lucie County Commission voted in December to opt out of another state law that allowed off-highway vehicles to be ridden on dirt roads in unincorporated areas of the county. The action came at the request of St. Lucie County Sheriff Ken Mascara, who said he was concerned about the safety of the riders on the roads, particularly at night.

In Indian River County, Sheriff Roy Raymond is working with the County Commission to opt out of the same state law.

"Martin County Sheriff's Office spokeswoman Lt. Jennell Atlas said her department is not considering recommending the county opt out of the state law allowing ATVs on dirt roads. She said the county receives only sporadic complaints.

Most people involved with ATV and dirt bike riders agree that having a place where they can ride legally would help.

But when St. Lucie County Commissioners tried to establish an off-highway park at the St. Lucie County Airport in 2004, they abandoned the plan because of citizen protests and the potential costs and liabilities.

Still, Tillman said she in enthusiastic about the possibility of helping find land where the bikers can ride legally. She plans to speak to the local state legislative delegation at a Friday meeting in the Martin County Commission chambers in Stuart to ask for state assistance.

"I don't want to be someone who just complains," Tillman said. "I want the kids to have their fun, but I just want them to do it where they won't bother people."

Tillman also has recruited Winn Peeples, lobbyist for the Florida Motorcycle Dealers Association. The association represents merchants who sell motorcycles, dirt bikes, all-terrain vehicles and other recreational motor vehicles.

Peeples said it is possible there are already funds set aside for building riding trails and tracks in areas where there are not such facilities. The Office of Greenways and Trails in the Florida Department of Environmental Protection, is involved in three projects that total $1.9 million. But none serve the Treasure Coast.

"The Off-Highway Advisory Committee oversees the funds and selects areas for motorsports parks, and it meets quarterly," Peeples said.

The idea of a special riding area for off-highway vehicles has real appeal to people who sell the machines. William Talero, operator of Moto Mania on Dixie Highway in Stuart, said he believes a park for off-highway vehicles would be a success.

"I would be glad to join in any effort to turn that into a reality," he said.

Joe Crankshaw can be reached at joe.crankshaw@scripps.com
 
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« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2007, 12:38:37 PM »

Bump call  this guy...
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« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2007, 09:00:55 PM »

that was in my paper too. i hope they get this going soon.
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« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2007, 10:35:53 AM »

Did anyone make it to the meeting last week when they where discussing this in front of the Comm.Huh
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« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2007, 01:18:52 PM »

Mrs. Tillman is not alone about her complaints BUT, she actually wants to help find legal places to ride. Thats a new one. Good for her.
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« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2007, 11:31:15 PM »

Where not to ride... the best thing to do is not resist arrest, doesn't work out good trust me.  So when you see the cops the best thing to do is stop and they just tell you to go home.  Otherwise they get 6 cop cars and a helicopter after you.
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« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2007, 06:59:02 PM »

ha ha ha ha i still ride out there  Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2007, 12:34:29 PM »

ha ha ha ha i still ride out there  Grin Grin Grin

This makes you part of the problem and this mentality does not help the atv community gain new riding areas.  I hope they arrest you and impound your ride next time you ride there.
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« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2007, 03:44:25 PM »

The problem is that there is no organization. Same problems everywhere in Florida. This is why they walk all over us. South Florida is starting to make some noise but PT ST LUCIE, MARTIN and PALM BEACH need to organize and unite so we can, collectively, work towards a better a future for ATV's in Florida.
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« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2007, 05:06:21 PM »

those punks are never gonna catch me and i hope you wreck and get paralyzed, Undecided jit
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« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2007, 09:17:12 AM »

Geez, there is the second intelligent post I have read from you this morning.  Why come to a forum where most members spent all this effort and time to shine a positive light on what we do and look for legal riding spots?  It is riders like you that make it difficult for all of us-I suggest you grow up and go play in someone else's sandbox.   
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« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2007, 05:53:56 PM »

screw you guys!!! ive been riding out there since i was seven... and all i can tell u is that the cops dont even care ive been caught out there twice.. (just so i could talk to them) and the cops dont even care.. its just the old people who complain all the time.... we try to make our bikes as quiet as possible, but the people just want to make more houses and wreck all the woods that people have been mainting and riding in since the begining of time... i know people that have ridden back there since the 60's and its really a bunch of bull crap... we.. and i speak for all my friends that i ride with every day.. all of us dont even ride in the dunes we ride in the woods that were allowed to ride in becaues there is more than one owner of all that land and we have talked to him and we have permission... i jus talked to a cop who followed our tracks back to one of my friends houses and he said he didnt care if we were out there but people were complaining about the noise.. and thats all he said...(jus make our bikes quieter..) so all you people who live 400 miles away who dont know anything about this situation should just shut their mouths.... Wink  and the 40 ppl that ride out there who are NOT a part of this website know every thing thats going on too...
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« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2007, 06:03:28 PM »

yeah man my woods are so fun to ride in!but dude people are riding right now and i garuntee nobody is gunna call the po9. its only the people that live in ocean breeze that call the cops on us. if your considerate when you ride and give people a break every once in a while they really dont care
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« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2007, 06:10:37 PM »

also.. i forgot to add.. 98% of teenagers in jensen, stuart, and palm city.. all do drugs.. if the senior citizens were smart.. which i know most of them are.. they would want to invest their time and energy into getting these people and drugs off the streets... and not worry about some people making a tad bit of noise every once in a while... because alot of the people that i know... riding is their anti drug.. so to speak.. i think what Terry is doing is a good idea but while the woods and dunes are not being over run by construction workers.. they should just leave us alone... because when they start building out there it will problaby make more noise then a couple of teenagers riding some dirt bikes...
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