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trx#9
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Re: 250rs???
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August 23, 2006, 10:52:24 PM »
Quote from: bmd11 on August 23, 2006, 05:34:46 AM
Quote from: trx#9 on August 22, 2006, 06:13:02 PM
The government put a band on them in 89' until 99'. There's actually a 1990 trx250r that was sold in Canada and Europe.
My mistake on the powervalve,
Yes Mr. Smarty-pants my facts book is from k-mart. And your Spelling is from Uranus!
My dictionary is from K-mart not Uranus, maybe thats our problem!
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August 24, 2006, 12:12:31 AM »
Honda stopped production of the 250R because of the costly payouts from lawsuits, which were being awarded by the court system who would not put fault on the responsible parties for injurying and killing themselves. There was absolutely no Govt. ban on them. How could Suzuki make a 250R up until 1992 then? I did extensive research on this, mainly because I started riding in 1984 and owned 250R's throughout the late 80's up until a few months ago and was curious about the same thing.
Most of the lawsuits that I researched showed irresponsible owners who would ride recklessly, let their kids or friends ride it recklessly, usually without a helmet (of course), and someone would end up getting killed or seriously injured. Guess who the injured party or thier family would blame? The deep pockets of Honda and other ATV manufactuers. Because the ATV had 4 wheels and looked "deceivingly harmless", it was the manufactuers fault for the roll overs and riders not being aware of how to ride it properly, and courts were awarding substantial amounts of money to victims and their families, who took no responsibility for what happened. The courts would not always rule that it was 100% the manufactuers fault, but would say that, for example, Honda was 50% responsible for what happened when someone was killed, which would still net huge amounts of money to the winner. Enough was enough, and Honda decided not to produce the 250R anymore. Kawasaki followed, and Suzuki stuck it out until 1992, and decided to pull production. I think Suzuki pulled production because sales were not that great, and practically no one raced the Suzuki on the Grand Naitonal circuit because the Honda was so much better. On top of that, during that time Import taxes skyrocketed, and the prices of the LT250R's were getting ridiculous for that time period, sending them out of production.
One of the lawsuits I remember pulling up in nexxus/lexxus regarding the Honda 250R involved a 15yr old kid riding a 250R into an intersection and getting killed by a car heading from the side. The court decided in the favor of the parents of the dead child, even though THEY were the ones who were neglegent to trust thier kid, who obviously didn't know how to ride, with a race type ATV.
I think its just as ridiculous as smokers sueing tabacco companies or fat people sueing McDonalds, but it happens, and it destroyed the ATV world at that time.
Thank god we're back into time of having newly developed, progressing technology, race bred ATV's!! Those of us who raced quads and lived performance ATV's in the 90's and early 2000's thought we'd never see the day!!
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August 24, 2006, 07:35:30 AM »
FINALLY! someone who knows what they are talking about!
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August 24, 2006, 07:52:10 AM »
Quote from: yfz450man on August 24, 2006, 12:12:31 AM
Thank god we're back into time of having newly developed, progressing technology, race bred ATV's!! Those of us who raced quads and lived performance ATV's in the 90's and early 2000's thought we'd never see the day!!
Nice post. I agree with this for sure. I was on a 250R forever until the 450R came out.
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August 24, 2006, 02:26:40 PM »
Here's a good read. Which sparked it all from the beggining on why all the good bikes were discontinued. The CPSC (government regulated) held the atv manufactors arms behind their backs while consumers pulled a Mike Tyson on their azz. Companies can only dish out so much. Props for yami sticking it out though, but wasn't a big part of the problem compared to the other big 3.
http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:yQVpZTnJVwMJ:consumerlawpage.com/article/atv.shtml+cpsc+1989&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=9
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Good post Mark... You da man!!!
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August 25, 2006, 07:53:00 PM »
the tecate 4 was a powervalve motor 250 from the factory the motors were awesome yes the handling wasnt there but the powerplant by far made the most power of the 250s where hoda had the best handling and best all around chassis i loved my tecate
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August 25, 2006, 08:57:30 PM »
There is an article in ATV Sport about the Tecate. Sorry to say they said it was the worse 250 made. They said it was too short, too narrow, twitchty off of the face of a jump and that there was a big gap between 3rd and 4th gear. Here's a quote from Jimmy White. I don't know who he is but he was a factory rider back in the 80's. "Most of the riders on it looked like monkeys having sex with a football."
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August 25, 2006, 10:19:42 PM »
Jimmy White was a jackass. I for one KNOW the Tecate-4s could hold more than there own.
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Quote from: Quad32x on August 25, 2006, 10:19:42 PM
Jimmy White was a jackass. I for one KNOW the Tecate-4s could hold more than there own.
One fast jackass, in the day!
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August 26, 2006, 11:04:43 AM »
seems that i have a tecate that looks just like that one,what do you think mike?
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August 26, 2006, 11:24:14 AM »
Quote from: trx#9 on August 26, 2006, 10:37:10 AM
Quote from: Quad32x on August 25, 2006, 10:19:42 PM
Jimmy White was a jackass. I for one KNOW the Tecate-4s could hold more than there own.
One fast jackass, in the day!
Yea he was fast but why would he bash the people that gave him his chance. Yea , hes a jackass.
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August 26, 2006, 12:13:21 PM »
Quote from: Hoosier Daddy on August 23, 2006, 05:04:41 PM
YEP! BUT YA SEE WHAT GOT THE HOLESHOT?
what happened to yours,Dont think anyone has seen it do that hahaha
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August 26, 2006, 12:40:37 PM »
Quote from: LT-R450ApK on August 26, 2006, 12:13:21 PM
Quote from: Hoosier Daddy on August 23, 2006, 05:04:41 PM
YEP! BUT YA SEE WHAT GOT THE HOLESHOT?
what happened to yours,Dont think anyone has seen it do that hahaha
you werent at the GA race now where you? Can you say "Foot in mouth"
Oh ya, and That was with a stock 250cc motor too!
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August 26, 2006, 02:58:56 PM »
GASGASMANs Phillips has a stock motor. Hes was WAREing people out.
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August 26, 2006, 04:04:38 PM »
Ight you got me
I'll do this now
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August 26, 2006, 04:10:38 PM »
Humm lets see, custom built TRX/KTM 500+cc bike VS. a STOCK 250cc 250r.
Thats a tough one to figure out..
And i had ya whipped till I ran out of Gas...!
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August 26, 2006, 04:10:44 PM »
The thing he didnt tell you scooter is he was racing a 300ex and a Blaster.
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Quote from: Hoosier Daddy on August 26, 2006, 04:10:38 PM
Humm lets see, custom built TRX/KTM 500+cc bike VS. a STOCK 250cc 250r.
Thats a tough one to figure out..
And i had ya whipped till I ran out of Gas...!
You couldnt whip your pee pee.
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August 26, 2006, 09:17:31 PM »
Sounds like you need one of those goofy looking , big 'ol tall gas tanks on you 250R. (I hate how those things look).
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Quote from: fastrnrik on August 26, 2006, 09:17:31 PM
Sounds like you need one of those goofy looking , big 'ol tall gas tanks on you 250R. (I hate how those things look).
Shhhhhhhhhh ! Thats a fat guys secret !
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Woops. Did you get my PM?
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August 28, 2006, 06:08:17 AM »
We have one of those big tanks... I fiilled up about 3/4 of the way, i thought that would be enough...
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August 28, 2006, 06:16:16 AM »
Well, it happens I guess. Sounds like something quad32 would do.
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Quote from: Hoosier Daddy on August 26, 2006, 04:10:38 PM
Humm lets see, custom built TRX/KTM 500+cc bike VS. a STOCK 250cc 250r.
Thats a tough one to figure out..
And i had ya whipped till I ran out of Gas...!
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