Ocala Thunderbowl Flat Track Racing Sept 2 Rescheduled to Sept 16!!

[Quad32x]

Gary right after Chris told him he liked him more than just a friend !

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[fastrnrik]

The chick above in the green tank top is going to be the new trophy girl at Thunderbowl. Whoever wins will get a trophy, plus some extra sweet lovin'...

[derek330]

i think the trophy will be good enough!! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !!

[fastrnrik]

Derek- The only problem is that Dave said because he's so fast, to just engrave all the trophies with his name, since he's going to win every time. You know, I'm not one to start trouble or anything...

(kidding)

[Hoosier Daddy]

[derek330]

anybody care to make some bets?? how about it dave?? $20 to the winner!! ??   dont go engraving yet the future is yet to be seen!!  anyone else want to bet??  brady,chris, gary?? ?? ?? let me know!! !! so we can get the pot going!! !! i will start a new poll!! !!

[Hoosier Daddy]

Im in for 20.00! but, that means you would have to pay 20.00 to everyone who placed a bet on Dave.
not saying everyone would bet on him, but even if there were 4 people who did and he beat you, you would be paying out 80.00. that could get pretty expensive quick. Im not saying you would lose, im just pointing out the expense of such a wager.

[derek330]

that also means that anyone who bet against me would owe me 20 bones each!! !!
and that would go to whoever bet on me!! !! so if i lost i would not owe 20 each.
it would be money lost from everyone who bet on me!! thats how bets work man!!
what does everyone else think??

[Hoosier Daddy]

maybe im  but i dont get it...

[derek330]

ok let me break it down for ya!!
lets say i get 5 people to vote for me. and dave gets 5 to vote for him.  so you have a 100 dollor pot on both ends... if dave wins then everyone that bet on him makes 20 dollors but if i win then whoever bet on me makes 20 dollors!! get it??  but the only way that will work is we both have to have the same amount of people betting on us!! he has 5 and i have 5. or he has 10 and i have 10. ect,ect,
the more people that bet the higher the wager!! any questions??

[fastrnrik]

Alright big ballers lets not get carried away here. Plus, don't forget the tracks "percentage".

[Quad32x]

Alright big ballers lets not get carried away here. Plus, don't forget the tracks "percentage".

Yep. Gots to take of a brother.

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[derek330]

this is just a friendly bet!! plus 10% goes to the track man!! 

[LT-R450ApK]

put me in for 20!!!

[Hoosier Daddy]

ok let me break it down for ya!!
lets say i get 5 people to vote for me. and dave gets 5 to vote for him.  so you have a 100 dollor pot on both ends... if dave wins then everyone that bet on him makes 20 dollors but if i win then whoever bet on me makes 20 dollors!! get it??  but the only way that will work is we both have to have the same amount of people betting on us!! he has 5 and i have 5. or he has 10 and i have 10. ect,ect,
the more people that bet the higher the wager!! any questions??

Ok, now that makes perfect sense, i was thinking "you" were betting everyone you would win.

[derek330]

who you bettin on scooter??  chris, this is how racing bets work.. this is how we do it when we race cars!!

[Quad32x]

who you bettin on scooter??  chris, this is how racing bets work.. this is how we do it when we race cars!!

Remember to talk slowly so he can understand you.

[Hoosier Daddy]

who you bettin on scooter??  chris, this is how racing bets work.. this is how we do it when we race cars!!

Remember to talk slowly so he can understand you.

hey quad,

[Quad32x]

Sorry Mr Ware sir.

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[500Sabertooth]

When and "IF" you ever get one, Then we will bring that back up. Keep in mind his dyno graph is in drag set up/ drag porting/ ALKY (super lean) and for 300FT runs only. This is what he told me from his mouth, on gas for circle track he told me 70-78hp MAX. Like I said this is what neil told me a month ago.

Hoosier,

This post was brought to my attention and I thought I'd set it in the correct direction. It seems you might have some information confused. First off...I do not run my bikes 'super lean' at all. On the contrary, I run them on the rich side as alky produces more torque when you favor rich jetting. Also, it is not set up for 300 ft only. At Silver Lake Sand dunes we race over 600 ft long at the 'flats' by the lake. It's the exact same jetting I run at the track at 300 ft.

I don't remember talking to you but then again I don't know your real name, and I talk to many people daily about motors. One thing I am sure is I never quoted you hp in the 70's. These motor's routinely lay down 90+ hp and 60+ ft/lbs torque on gas with mild porting. We're at 105 hp and 68 ft/lbs torque on alky with drag porting....on the rich side!

Your video looked nice...can I ask what times you're running in 300 ft with that Banshee and what size motor (bore and stroke) is it?

Neal
Saber Racing

[Hoosier Daddy]

It was on PlanetSand, I wish i still had the PM but i dont,but it is different than what you posted here.

But i will say i think its pretty crappy of Derek to get you on here to try and disprove me... again.. and again.. for some reason he feels the need to always have an engine builders battle with me, for what reason, i have no idea. but its pretty childish...

[derek330]

it was hoosier and i that were argueing... but thanks for backing me up neil!! !!    HOLD UP CHRIS!!! !!
i did not tell him ANYTHING about us so dont even start!! !! !! !! i dont know why he is on here!! !! but he IS right!! 92hp on gas.....

[Quad32x]

Im faster than 550Superquad.

[500Sabertooth]

Hoosier,

The reason and how this post was brought to my attention is that anytime someone posts a link to my website I can see it when I check my monthly stats from my website provider. I saw a link to this site and decided to check it out. I always check to see what people are saying about us. I would be remiss in my duties as a builder and business owner if I did not make sure the information being posted on these sites about my kit was correct and not misleading.

Still curious on the times your Banshee is laying down? Are you willing to share that info?

Neal
Saber Racing

[Scott270r]

sure derek... im sure he just stumbled on the atvflorida page..
thats happens alot i guess....  you Pmed me saying it was Scott, but regardless of who it was thats pretty low class and since you dont seem to have any, it is pretty easy to point the finger at you.

How did I get into this? I never brought Neil into this at all, just ask him yourself. I have spoken to Neil before but not about this. I AM saving my pennies to get one of his kits. I think the Saber ebgines are the baddest of all time, Neil has done and outstanding job with R&D to even achieve such a kit.

Chris, cool it down a couple levels, this is sounding like no one is cutting the fool anymore here. This is all supposed to be entertainment time filler until we get to race again.