Death benefits for KIA's per Rush

[backinsaddle]

Someone sent this to me...thought it was worth sharing:

Love him or loathe him, he nailed this one..........

By Rush Limbaugh:


I think the vast differences in compensation between victims of the September 11 casualty and those who die serving our country in Uniform are profound. No one is really talking about it either, because you just don't criticize anything having to do with September 11. Well, I can't let the numbers pass by because it says something really  disturbing about the entitlement mentality of this country. If you lost a family member in the September 11 attack, you're going to get an average of $1,185,000. The range is a minimum guarantee of $250,000, all the way up to $4.7 million.


If you are a surviving family member of an American soldier killed in action, the first check you get is a $6,000 direct death benefit, half of which is taxable. Next, you get $1,750 for burial costs. If you are the surviving spouse, you get $833 a month until you remarry. And there's a payment of $211 per month for each child under 18. When the child hits 18, those payments come to a screeching halt.

Keep in mind that some of the people who are getting an average of $1.185 million up to $4.7 million are complaining that it's not enough. Their deaths were tragic, but for most, they were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. Soldiers put themselves in harms way FOR ALL OF US, and they and their families know the dangers.

We also learned over the weekend that some of the victims from the Oklahoma City bombing have started an organization asking for the same deal that the September 11 families are getting. In addition to that, some of the families of those bombed in the embassies are now asking for compensation as well.

You see where this is going, don't you? Folks, this is part and parcel of over 50 years of entitlement politics in this country. It's just really sad. Every time a pay raise comes up for the military, they usually receive next to nothing of a raise. Now the green machine is in combat in the Middle East while their families have to survive on food stamps and live in low-rent housing. Make sense?

However, our own US Congress voted themselves a raise. Many of you don't know that they only have to be in Congress one time to receive a pension that is more than $15,000 per month. And most are now equal to
being millionaires plus. They do not receive Social Security on retirement because they didn't have to pay into the system. If some of the military people stay in for 20 years and get out as an E-7, they may receive a pension of $1,000 per month, and the very people who placed them in harm's way receives a pension of $15,000 per month.

I would like to see our elected officials pick up a weapon and join ranks before they start cutting out benefits and lowering pay for our sons and daughters who are now fighting. " When do we finally do something about this?" If this doesn't seem fair to you, it is time to forward this to as many people as you can.

[FishaHallic]

I can honestly say I have never agreed with anything that fat a@#, pill poppin, drug addicted, hypocrite ever said, until today.  Thanks for posting

[dreth]

I can honestly say I have never agreed with anything that fat a@#, pill poppin, drug addicted, hypocrite ever said, until today.  Thanks for posting

TELL US HOW YOU REALLY FEEL!

[trx#9]

I think most that money for 911 came from private donations. Another thing military is for the poor and thats why they get what they get. Sad but true! 

[Chuck_Norris]

I think most that money for 911 came from private donations. Another thing"military is  for the poor and thats why they get what they get. Sad but true! 

If there is one thing we can agree on TRX#9 is to disagree. I want to address your comment

military is  for the poor and thats why they get what they get. Sad but true! 

How do you come up with that. The Military is not for the poor. unless I mis-understand your statement I think that it is the most ungrateful statement leading to our military short of Jane Fonda's revolting display for our vietnam veterans. The reason you have the freedom's you have are for people like myself who have served our great Nation and those who are cotinuing to keep your rearend safe and not speaking a forien language because you have too is due to the military fighting to keep our Nation safe. I dont know you personally and apologise if I have taken your statement incorrectly. You will more than likely find a shared sentament from fellow current and prior military members. If you can recall members of this site arranged a ride to support a fellow rider  and military member jungalo warrior in support for his contribution to the military.
 It is sad that some folks take for granted the things that they dont directly have a hand in.  But then again our military fights for you to have that freedom. I make it a point to shake the hand and say thank you to each military member that comes into my dealership and who cross my path through my daily walk in life.

This Marine Died for the poor? Not Hardly He Died for our Freedom

[JayDawg]

I totally agree with you Chuck! Yes, there are some people who have only a high school education and not a lot of money who go into the military for a better life or a better chance to make it in society once they get out of the service. Look at the lifetime benefits from the military. You have the VA hospital that gives free medical care for life for any veteran of the military, you have home loans availible through the VA which in my understanding is a much better loan than through a bank. I was never in the military but my Dad and my Grandfather on my Mom's side was. My Dad was diagnosed with MS and the VA has taken care of all his medical and prescription drugs. My Grandfather passed away in 1988 from cancer but again everything was paid for by the military. My Grandfather was very high up in the military and all that he did is highly classified still to this day. When he passed, my Grandmother was given a hand written letter by then President, Ronald Reagan. While I cannot say what my Granfather did, I do know this. My no stretch of the immagination was he poor. He came from a poor family going into the military but when he passed away, he was well off due to what he did in the military. I have a good friend who enlisted as a Marine officer out of college. He wanted to continue his college by going to law school. The military offered to pay for everything if he enlisted. He did several years ago and has no regrets. While he is not rich, for what he does, he makes pretty good money. I don't recall his exact rank or position but I know he makes at least 50 to 60k a year. Not bad for a 32 year old that is married with no kids. Oh yeah, the military is also paying for all his schooling too. One of my biggest wonders is wondering where I would be had I joined the Armed Forces. I have nothing but the utmost respect for our military men and women and appreciate all they do. I tested for the Armed Forces in high school and scored off the charts. Similar to what my Grandfather did when he enlisted. I was offered everything from Pilot school out of boot camp to Special forces in the Navy and Army. My reasons for turning down the military were because I thought the same thing as you at hte time. My pay at first would have been very little and I was making pretty good money back then working in the music industry. I also at the time didn't like the fact they controled where I go and what I do. What I neglected to see back then was the military teaches you things like honor, duty, serving and sacrifice. Because I never enlisted the "What if" question has always been in my mind ever since. So to all the military men and women on here, I want to say Thank You for all you have done in serving our country!
God bless!
Jason

[shulco1]

well said chuck

[debatethis]

I think most that money for 911 came from private donations. Another thing military is for the poor and thats why they get what they get. Sad but true! 

As for the originations of the  donations ok, but the other.... the military is for the poor? No the military is for those that wish to serve their country. Not only do they receive monetary compensation, benefits, job experience, training, education opportunities, but also our well deserved respect. I know people of all walks that are in or have been in the military. If those of a lower socio-economic status choose to use such an opportunity to better themselves while servingtheir country that's great. But to make such a biased, one sided, ridiculous statement like the military is for the poor is just out of line and off the mark. Just another inflammatory remark by someone with such skewed ideals that he feels it imperative to spew it that others may gag on it instead of choking on it himself. Misery loves company, and stupidity is quickly shouted out amongst an unwelcoming public. From some you just have to expect it, consider the source and move on.

God Bless America, and the proud service men and women that serve to protect us all.

[trx#9]

I think most that money for 911 came from private donations. Another thing"military is  for the poor and thats why they get what they get. Sad but true! 

If there is one thing we can agree on TRX#9 is to disagree. I want to address your comment

military is  for the poor and thats why they get what they get. Sad but true! 

How do you come up with that. The Military is not for the poor. unless I mis-understand your statement I think that it is the most ungrateful statement leading to our military short of Jane Fonda's revolting display for our vietnam veterans. The reason you have the freedom's you have are for people like myself who have served our great Nation and those who are cotinuing to keep your rearend safe and not speaking a forien language because you have too is due to the military fighting to keep our Nation safe. I dont know you personally and apologise if I have taken your statement incorrectly. You will more than likely find a shared sentament from fellow current and prior military members. If you can recall members of this site arranged a ride to support a fellow rider  and military member jungalo warrior in support for his contribution to the military.
 It is sad that some folks take for granted the things that they dont directly have a hand in.  But then again our military fights for you to have that freedom. I make it a point to shake the hand and say thank you to each military member that comes into my dealership and who cross my path through my daily walk in life.

This Marine Died for the poor? Not Hardly He Died for our Freedom

I'm wrong I guess the military is for the rich. I forgot most rich republicans send there kids to the armed forces. Chuck are you deaf were in mexico (forien language). Were did I say i don't support the troops, trying to start $hit again. Get a hobby!

[trx#9]

I think most that money for 911 came from private donations. Another thing military is for the poor and thats why they get what they get. Sad but true! 

As for the originations of the  donations ok, but the other.... the military is for the poor? No the military is for those that wish to serve their country. Not only do they receive monetary compensation, benefits, job experience, training, education opportunities, but also our well deserved respect. I know people of all walks that are in or have been in the military. If those of a lower socio-economic status choose to use such an opportunity to better themselves while servingtheir country that's great. But to make such a biased, one sided, ridiculous statement like the military is for the poor is just out of line and off the mark. Just another inflammatory remark by someone with such skewed ideals that he feels it imperative to spew it that others may gag on it instead of choking on it himself. Misery loves company, and stupidity is quickly shouted out amongst an unwelcoming public. From some you just have to expect it, consider the source and move on.

God Bless America, and the proud service men and women that serve to protect us all.

Isn't it like 90% of people that enter the military are poor. Why is stating the truth as your panties in a bunch.  Don't you see the government uses the lives of these poor soldiers for there finacial gain. So grow up and educate yourself you tard. Life is blind, until you take the blinders off.  Quit listening to the dumbest person on earth your mentor Pres. Bush. And please go sign up and go because and can't stand to here your narrow minded jibberous again.

[debatethis]

I think most that money for 911 came from private donations. Another thing military is for the poor and thats why they get what they get. Sad but true! 

As for the originations of the  donations ok, but the other.... the military is for the poor? No the military is for those that wish to serve their country. Not only do they receive monetary compensation, benefits, job experience, training, education opportunities, but also our well deserved respect. I know people of all walks that are in or have been in the military. If those of a lower socio-economic status choose to use such an opportunity to better themselves while servingtheir country that's great. But to make such a biased, one sided, ridiculous statement like the military is for the poor is just out of line and off the mark. Just another inflammatory remark by someone with such skewed ideals that he feels it imperative to spew it that others may gag on it instead of choking on it himself. Misery loves company, and stupidity is quickly shouted out amongst an unwelcoming public. From some you just have to expect it, consider the source and move on.

God Bless America, and the proud service men and women that serve to protect us all.

Isn't it like 90% of people that enter the military are poor. Why is stating the truth as your panties in a bunch.  Don't you see the government uses the lives of these poor soldiers for there finacial gain. So grow up and educate yourself you tard. Life is blind, until you take the blinders off.  Quit listening to the dumbest person on earth your mentor Pres. Bush. And please go sign up and go because and can't stand to here your narrow minded jibberous again.

Hypocrisy at it's finest LOL  This is America, no one is forced into military service like in many nations of the world where indeed they are used to the benefit of the elite. here it is a choice. and some use it to remove themselves from poverty while others use it to fulfill the need to contribute to a better world. Then there are malcontents that simply run their dissenting mouths in any attempt to spread their leftist propoganda even at the expense of dishonoring those that sacrifice to afford them the self righteous opportunity to spit their verbal nonsense in any direction they wish at the expense of others.

A little advice - grip your ears, pull your head out of your own rear end, and join the world of conscious thinking individuals that don't simply regurgitate their party's rhetoric without evaluating its merit or lack thereof.

Cain

[trx#9]

I think most that money for 911 came from private donations. Another thing military is for the poor and thats why they get what they get. Sad but true! 

As for the originations of the  donations ok, but the other.... the military is for the poor? No the military is for those that wish to serve their country. Not only do they receive monetary compensation, benefits, job experience, training, education opportunities, but also our well deserved respect. I know people of all walks that are in or have been in the military. If those of a lower socio-economic status choose to use such an opportunity to better themselves while servingtheir country that's great. But to make such a biased, one sided, ridiculous statement like the military is for the poor is just out of line and off the mark. Just another inflammatory remark by someone with such skewed ideals that he feels it imperative to spew it that others may gag on it instead of choking on it himself. Misery loves company, and stupidity is quickly shouted out amongst an unwelcoming public. From some you just have to expect it, consider the source and move on.

God Bless America, and the proud service men and women that serve to protect us all.

Isn't it like 90% of people that enter the military are poor. Why is stating the truth as your panties in a bunch.  Don't you see the government uses the lives of these poor soldiers for there finacial gain. So grow up and educate yourself you tard. Life is blind, until you take the blinders off.  Quit listening to the dumbest person on earth your mentor Pres. Bush. And please go sign up and go because and can't stand to here your narrow minded jibberous again.

Hypocrisy at it's finest LOL  This is America, no one is forced into military service like in many nations of the world where indeed they are used to the benefit of the elite. here it is a choice. and some use it to remove themselves from poverty while others use it to fulfill the need to contribute to a better world. Then there are malcontents that simply run their dissenting mouths in any attempt to spread their leftist propoganda even at the expense of dishonoring those that sacrifice to afford them the self righteous opportunity to spit their verbal nonsense in any direction they wish at the expense of others.

A little advice - grip your ears, pull your head out of your own rear end, and join the world of conscious thinking individuals that don't simply regurgitate their party's rhetoric without evaluating its merit or lack thereof.

Cain

Weren't you ban before Cain, for all that jibberious Limbaugh bull$hit?

[Chuck_Norris]

1. "90% of the people that enter the military are poor"
2. "dumbest person in America is my mentor President Bush"
3. "most rich republicans send there kids to the armed forces"
4. "Why is stating the truth as your panties in a bunch"
5. the government uses the lives of these poor soldiers for there finacial gain.
6. So grow up and educate yourself you tard
7. please go sign up and go because and can't stand to here your narrow minded jibberous again.

Sure does sound like someone needs a check up from the neck up. you commented on us being narrowed minded and that we need to educate ourselves. How wrong you are, It is clear who needs the education.
Now the one comment specific I want to address with you on a personal nature as you have found it nessary to insult the integrity of the Brave Men and Women who keep your butt safe is: what have you done for your/our country? I have been on the front line and returned home just to hear someone like you complain. If you truley want to face the real life as it is instead of the fictional happy go lucky place you have conjured up in your own mind, experience what many of our US servicemen have and then come here with your educated gripes and complaints. Nothing that you can say has a sense of validity nor can hold an ounce of water. I certainly hope that you are good at riding your quad because you certainly dont have a clue about life. All though I enjoy the challenge you bring with every uneducated comment, 1 of 2 things can happen at this stage in the conversation you can either seriously look back on at what is said, not only on this topic but several others that you have blasphemd through, do your own research and educate yourself or continue being immature with the nonsense unfactual comments you have been so good at thus far. The door to oppurtuntiy awaits, you just have to turn the knob.           

[debatethis]

No I was the target of a great political conspiracy    Don't worry though I've been here all along.

[Quad32x]

No I was the target of a great political conspiracy    Don't worry though I've been here all along.

Thats  my  boy !  Still  kickin  ass !  Tell-em  Cain !

[Chuck_Norris]

No I was the target of a great political conspiracy    Don't worry though I've been here all along.

Thats  my  boy !  Still  kickin  ass !  Tell-em  Cain !

 

[MadMudder]

Ok, its one thing to sit there and piss and moan about the president. Some peoples lives are centered around it. But its another to sit there and dis respect our troops. The same people who risk their lives everyday just to give you the ability to bi*ch about them? You seriously need some help there. And why is it that people always say that the big mean evil president bush and his gang of fire breathing minions and deamons use the lives of soliders to get more money. Last time I checked, the president doesnt get a monster salary. Cheney hasn't been part of Haliburton in years. They had more no-bid contracts in the clinton years then they do now. And do you know why they get them now, because there the only company big enough to do the jobs! Cheny sold all of his stock in that company awhile back. But you probably didnt even know what haliburton was because you just repeat whatever the mass media says. So untill you can make a valid argument you need to seirously pipe down.

[bigscrub79]

Ok, its one thing to sit there and piss and moan about the president. Some peoples lives are centered around it. But its another to sit there and dis respect our troops. The same people who risk their lives everyday just to give you the ability to bi*ch about them? You seriously need some help there. And why is it that people always say that the big mean evil president bush and his gang of fire breathing minions and deamons use the lives of soliders to get more money. Last time I checked, the president doesnt get a monster salary. Cheney hasn't been part of Haliburton in years. They had more no-bid contracts in the clinton years then they do now. And do you know why they get them now, because there the only company big enough to do the jobs! Cheny sold all of his stock in that company awhile back. But you probably didnt even know what haliburton was because you just repeat whatever the mass media says. So untill you can make a valid argument you need to seirously pipe down.

Thats what I am talking about there. How does a kid like you get so smart. Probably have parents that actually raised you instead of relying on the schools and police to do it.

[FLCat]

Another thing military is for the poor and thats why they get what they get.

LMAO at this statement!  As Red Foreman from the 70's show would say....You're a dumbass!

[cheropride]

Not to debate anyone, but just to say, I think it is sad how this nation has lost it's pride in a sense.  To say the military is for the poor, well thats just wrong, without our military and the brave individuals that serve made this country what it is today, keeps our country safe and deserves our utmost respect and honor.  There is a lot of crazy stuff going on in this world and if go back to how we all felt after 9-11, we had no choice but to do what we did.  People bang our President for sending troops to Iraq, but don't think for a moment, that Iraq did not play a big part of 9-11.  As for our troops and their families, they deserve so much more than they get.  Perhaps some of those donations should go to the soliders families that lost their loved ones.  Perhaps we should have a big TV promotion to support our troops to donate monies to their families.  And since we are on the subject, we should always respect our President.  Everyone may not like or agree with him, but you know, he is our elected President by the people for the people.  It is so easy to say what someone else would do in Mr. President's shoes, but you know what, I would not want to walk a mile in his shoes.  We could not begin to image what the stress that man must endure each and everyday.  Cause we all know, we only know a very small part of the whole story, we could not handle the truth, it would scare us all to death.  So we go on with our normal lives, bash our president, bash our troops, but at the same time a solider is killed by someone they did not even realize was the enemy.  The MEDIA makes it so much worse, we hear for months how a few soliders mistreated the prisoners, but how about when the enemy took our soliders and plucked their eyes out and totally tortured them to death.  Well they only report on that for a week or so.  Don't make sense to me.  Or how about when they crashed the planes in the Trade Centers and killed all of those innocent people, lets not forget what it at stake here.

God Bless America!!!!  In God We Trust!!!!

[FishaHallic]

Just because we are in a war on terrow does not mean that you can't question your president.   We can't just walk around and assume he is doing everything right with no questions asked.  He is only a man and can make mistakes just like anyone else and if he makes a mistake it's our duty to point them out.  Now, I'm not saying he did make a mistake by going into Iraq but he should have sent in force big enough to get the job done in a timely manner.

And as far as respecting our president goes I agree but how can our opinions mean anything with all the politics going on in Washington.  The republicans went after Clinton for all 8 yrs he was in office about Whitewater.  And then the Monica Lewenski thing should have been left up to his family to deal with he never should have been impeached for that.  I think politics is dividing this country more than any time that I can remember, democrats against republicans or republicans against democrats it's all the same and it's ALL hurting this country.  Good luck

[trx#9]

1. "90% of the people that enter the military are poor"
2. "dumbest person in America is my mentor President Bush"
3. "most rich republicans send there kids to the armed forces"
4. "Why is stating the truth as your panties in a bunch"
5. the government uses the lives of these poor soldiers for there finacial gain.
6. So grow up and educate yourself you tard
7. please go sign up and go because and can't stand to here your narrow minded jibberous again.

Sure does sound like someone needs a check up from the neck up. you commented on us being narrowed minded and that we need to educate ourselves. How wrong you are, It is clear who needs the education.
Now the one comment specific I want to address with you on a personal nature as you have found it nessary to insult the integrity of the Brave Men and Women who keep your butt safe is: what have you done for your/our country? I have been on the front line and returned home just to hear someone like you complain. If you truley want to face the real life as it is instead of the fictional happy go lucky place you have conjured up in your own mind, experience what many of our US servicemen have and then come here with your educated gripes and complaints. Nothing that you can say has a sense of validity nor can hold an ounce of water. I certainly hope that you are good at riding your quad because you certainly dont have a clue about life. All though I enjoy the challenge you bring with every uneducated comment, 1 of 2 things can happen at this stage in the conversation you can either seriously look back on at what is said, not only on this topic but several others that you have blasphemd through, do your own research and educate yourself or continue being immature with the nonsense unfactual comments you have been so good at thus far. The door to oppurtuntiy awaits, you just have to turn the knob.           

Were did I say anything bad about the people serving our country? I only bashed the President. When are you going to man up and admit the Presidents wrong, Your just like Bush can never admit when your wrong. Its your government that you helped elect that gives the soldier the lousy pay, no body armor but an ever ending supply of body bads huh! Here's one of your typical come back to what I just said, its the price to pay to keep our country safe, You have no respect for our service men, you certainly don't have a clue about life, then you show a dead service man on the bottom of the screen and say this man died for the poor not hardly he died for our freedom. See I save you typing too. Thats how you try to start your $hit. I think you would make a good politician with your mis leading corrupt values of telling people these soldiers are dieing for our freedom. I'm to smart for you fish-eye-fool.

[debatethis]

bla-bah, bla-blah blah

 

[gatorjohn]

Just because we are in a war on terrow does not mean that you can't question your president.   We can't just walk around and assume he is doing everything right with no questions asked.  He is only a man and can make mistakes just like anyone else and if he makes a mistake it's our duty to point them out.  Now, I'm not saying he did make a mistake by going into Iraq but he should have sent in force big enough to get the job done in a timely manner.

And as far as respecting our president goes I agree but how can our opinions mean anything with all the politics going on in Washington.  The republicans went after Clinton for all 8 yrs he was in office about Whitewater.  And then the Monica Lewenski thing should have been left up to his family to deal with he never should have been impeached for that.  I think politics is dividing this country more than any time that I can remember, democrats against republicans or republicans against democrats it's all the same and it's ALL hurting this country.  Good luck

IMO, we 'THE PEOPLE' should fire most if not all the dem's & repub's this Nov as they are definitely not serving us. As said above they are dividing this country because of party lines. "Scotty, there is no intelligent life". We're supposed to be the greatest nation on earth and all they can pass up there is a flag burning amendment (not that it isn't important to me) but I believe there are more pressing issues facing this country as in sealing our borders, getting our troops the best gear that money can buy and things like that. I served during the height of the cold war and was proud to do it. I didn't think that I was poor then, only that I was well trained at my job and ready to kick some butt if it came to it. We worked hard and played hard and I feel I'm a better person for it today. So if you haven't served your country in some positive way other than just trudging through life.... Just my opinion and I'll get of my soapbox now.  JB

[Chuck_Norris]

QWere did I say anything bad about the people serving our country?

A:1. "90% of the people that enter the military are poor"
5. the government uses the lives of these poor soldiers for there finacial gain.
There is 2 start with

Q: When are you going to man up and admit the Presidents wrong

A:Wrong, right or indifferent he is still my President, Commander and Chief and represents the best nation in the world. I'll support him. I did not agree with Clinto and his loose morals but I severed him.

Your just like Bush can never admit when your wrong.

You dont know me do you. get back on your media wagon

Its your government that you helped elect that gives the soldier the lousy pay, no body armor but an ever ending supply of body bads huh!

If you dont like my government get out of my Country, the first time you have the intestinal fortitude to sign up and serve this country, your worldly views would change. especially the first time your on forien soil and dont have the amenaties that you take solely for granted here in America

You have no respect for our service men

I am one you moron, veteran does that term mean anything to you. once a service men always a service man, and when did you serve? oh thats right you didnt. Your too busy burning your draft card or was it your bra.
what have you done for your/our country? I have been on the front line and returned home just to hear someone like you complain. If you truley want to face the real life as it is instead of the fictional happy go lucky place you have conjured up in your own mind, experience what many of our US servicemen have and then come here with your educated gripes and complaints

your mis leading corrupt values

I think a few people will disagree with you. Excuse me while I get just a tad bit Pridefull. I have great family values, awsome work ethic, I believe in God the Father and his Son Jesus Christ. I am a Road Chaplain for a Local Motorcycle Group  I retain both Moral and tradional views,not worldly obsessions. now that you have my resume, sure sounds as though I have some value 

I'm to smart for you fish-eye-fool

nah that is my brother and I highly doubt your to smart based on the current display of intellect
to quote you:

bla-bah, bla-blah blah

that is intellegence at its best.