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May 22, 2006, 08:30:48 AM »
This is my son talked about in this article. I don't care if the least amount of force was used. She was wrong for what she did. What in the hell is going on in todays schools and law enorcment?
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May 22, 2006, 08:39:22 AM »
That sucks bro. What did the school board do to discipline her? Post a pic of that bizitch so we can all id her just in case we run into her at the store or something and feel like choking someone.
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May 22, 2006, 08:53:56 AM »
From what Shelby and I were told is that she would not teach in the county until the investigation were completed. I guess it is back to teaching and choking for her
If there are any teachers who are members please don't take this to heart, I know you as teachers do a job that I couldn't do, but this women is wrong for what she did.
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May 22, 2006, 08:57:57 AM »
what really sucks is that you only have 7yr olds as witnesses
or a civil suit would be in order. im sorry this happend to you but im glad it wasnt me cause i would have choked her
and said it was out of love
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May 22, 2006, 08:58:49 AM »
She may not be accountable to the school or prosecution however she should be accountable $$$$$ wise.Call a darn lawyer they do that stuff all the time. They will tell you straight up if you have a chance.We all know they wont work if the odds arent in there favor! Plus w's ready for his own RHINO!
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May 22, 2006, 09:00:23 AM »
Dreth, actually there were 3 more 7 yr old witnesses. I guess being they are youth, their statments don't me anything.
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As a school they are responsible for the conduct of their teachers. Federal civil law allows for appropriate renumeration in cases of mal-feasance, non-feasance or mis-feasance when acting under the color of law or authority. ( Cops, teachers, anyone in a authoritative position.) Punitive (punishment) damages are considered against the actual teacher with general damages against the school.
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May 22, 2006, 09:16:21 AM »
AS A PARENT HOW MUCH FORCE CAN I USE TO CHOKE THE SH.T OUT OF HER
IF SHE DID THAT TO MY KID?? WITH OUT CHARGES?
HMMMMM
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Quote from: bluesman on May 22, 2006, 09:16:21 AM
AS A PARENT HOW MUCH FORCE CAN I USE TO CHOKE THE SH.T OUT OF HER
IF SHE DID THAT TO MY KID?? WITH OUT CHARGES?
HMMMMM
No, they would probably lock my azz up and throw away the key. I should of just marched in there and raise heck.
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May 22, 2006, 09:26:37 AM »
My wifes a teacher and I COMPLETELY agree with you. That's something that I don't understand??? So if someone uses minimal abuse on their kids, spouse, etc... If someones uses minimal force to Rape someone... I really don't get this one
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May 22, 2006, 09:29:52 AM »
Something similar happened to me in the 2nd grade. A teacher grabbed me by the arm when she got mad at me and started shaking me around and then pushed me into a chair and I had bruises on my arm from where she grabbed me and we went to the principal of the school but his response was "That teacher would never do anything like that" and we didnt do anything futher... I think that you should check out getting a lawyer like bushwacker said, I think you could make a good case out of this.
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May 22, 2006, 09:30:22 AM »
Rob, I applaud your wife and any other teacher teaching our youth of today and yesterday, but the sub should of just stepped outside and collected her thoughts, anything but choke my son, I am dumbfounded.
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May 22, 2006, 09:35:26 AM »
I am very sorry to hear this. Greengriz, we all know she was wrong, and I feel she should be either removed, fired, probation, re-assigned, anger management or something. I do not think choking her is going to solve anything. That would reduce us to the rest of the crap that is going on in this country. There were 5 kids killed this weekend in S. Fla by guns and car accidents. One kid was killed because he said his car was cooler than this other car. Lets rise above it. Have a meeting with the school, your attorney and make sure this does not happen to someone else's kid. I have a 8 year old as well, and I would be freaked if someone put their hands on him. I hope your son is doing good.
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May 22, 2006, 09:39:07 AM »
VForce, he has been doing pretty good. I just don't know how he is gonna be when my wife and I tell him there may be a chance that he see's her at school again.
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May 22, 2006, 09:46:10 AM »
Greengriz, I wish I had the answer for that one. How is he going to react?? She could very well end up in his class again.
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May 22, 2006, 10:16:34 AM »
05green,
thats terrible.
my first reaction would be to kill that person but then reality kicks in
and you realize you have to hold that beast thats eating at you inside.
i'm sorry.
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May 22, 2006, 10:26:51 AM »
Key word is SUBSTITUTE. She is a wanna be teacher. If it were my son I would have stalked her, found out where she shopped, ate & lived. Tires arent cheap, but roofing nails are. I have a 7 yr old son & my wife is a 2nd grade teacher, so I hear a lot of stories about kids, but she would never ever touch a kid, that is EXTREMELY FORBIDDEN. If a kid is a danger to others they are supposed to call the principles office for assistance, only in extreme cases are they to ever touch a kid & that would mean he/she was hurting or endangering another student. I personally would lose it if something like this happened. I would though take all necessary channels to make her life and career choice miserable. I would also instruct my son to immediately go to the office & call home to be picked up every time she is in his class. I would also check into a restraining order if possible. That should prevent her from teaching there.
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May 22, 2006, 11:00:13 AM »
I feel for ya to, I went through the same thing a while back. On the fourth incident, at a private school, I was told of the choke hold on him as we were driving to my house for the weekend. I complained, very heated may I add. I asked, " if I did that to the teacher, I would be in jail right, and they said yes." Well I asked how the teacher can get away with it and not me. No answer.
Long story short, I had to call the Pinellas County school board only to be told they dropped the case. Lack of evidence. They wouldn't even call me back to tell me, I asked why, got no answer. Everything happened in front of the class of 35, or out in the yard in front of 200 to 300 people.
I wish I had got a lawyer and pursued it further. I don't know what happened to the teacher, but I do know the school was cited for several filthy bathrooms. Some toilets didn't work, so the little ones had to share one. At least they had to spend thousands on upgrades, and the kids have new bathrooms now. I pulled my son and enrolled him into another school immediately. Good luck.
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May 22, 2006, 11:04:14 AM »
OK, I have called the principal,doe, super and the school board atty. No 1 has answers nor have I spoke to anyone directly involved with the case. I am getting pi$$ed now!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ok it gets better, human resources has just called me back and says that the states atty has dropped the case. Now, the school board atty esq or whatever just told me that the sub will not teach in manatee county schoolroom ever again. So we will see. Still have not heard where the radio station got the news from.
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Don't stop there. Keep pushing. If you were different color then the naacp would be all over this.
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Art:
I sent you a P.M.
This is crazy. We should talk.
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Quote from: Anoriginal on May 22, 2006, 11:24:22 AM
Art:
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Here we go. Hehehehehe
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Quote from: Anoriginal on May 22, 2006, 11:24:22 AM
Art:
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I left a voice message and you have a pm also.
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Quote from: Da_Mtg_Man on May 22, 2006, 12:03:44 PM
Quote from: Anoriginal on May 22, 2006, 11:24:22 AM
Art:
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This is crazy. We should talk.
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Here we go. Hehehehehe
Quote from: bushwacker on May 22, 2006, 08:58:49 AM
She may not be accountable to the school or prosecution however she should be accountable $$$$$ wise.Call a darn lawyer they do that stuff all the time. They will tell you straight up if you have a chance.We all know they wont work if the odds arent in there favor! Plus w's ready for his own RHINO!
ITS ON CAN YOU SAY NEW RHINO?
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