Ocala Thunderbowl Quad Flattrack Sat 5/27, 6/10 plus other dates and news

[Hoosier Daddy]

Yout right about the track, its inconsistent, when its dry we gear up when its wet and hooking we gear down.. its a never ending battle.
I just finshed rebuilding my 421 cub, it has a drag port but im using kawasaki (sp) pistons that have a smaller window to make up for the torque loss. Hopefully i can get it out there break it in and get it jetted. It would be nice to have a back up.
I actually might be selling it and picking up another 250r, they are wife friendly..

What kind of water temps are you guys getting on the 250r's in race trim?

[derek330]

we are not sure as we dont have temp. guages yet.. they are on order...they never overheat unless something is wrong. the one time scotts overheated it had the stock 88' radiator. old and crusty!!!!!! got a new one and no problem sense. i have had a new radiator sense i first built my bike so i have never had a problem...you mean your not racing the 370!!?? 
W H A T ??

[Hoosier Daddy]

we are not sure as we dont have temp. guages yet.. they are on order...they never overheat unless something is wrong. the one time scotts overheated it had the stock 88' radiator. old and crusty!!!!!! got a new one and no problem sense. i have had a new radiator sense i first built my bike so i have never had a problem...you mean your not racing the 370!!?? 
W H A T ??

No i am, havent yet but i will race the 370 soon.  i meant thinking on selling the Banshee.
Id like to get a different bike my wife could ride that has a smoother powerband than a banshee, ive even considered a 4 banger... 

[derek330]

we are not sure as we dont have temp. guages yet.. they are on order...they never overheat unless something is wrong. the one time scotts overheated it had the stock 88' radiator. old and crusty!!!!!! got a new one and no problem sense. i have had a new radiator sense i first built my bike so i have never had a problem...you mean your not racing the 370!!?? 
W H A T ??

No i am, havent yet but i will race the 370 soon.  i meant thinking on selling the Banshee.
Id like to get a different bike my wife could ride that has a smoother powerband than a banshee, ive even considered a 4 banger... 

4 banger?? ?? 

[RTR_380/450R]

Dont bang the 4-banger!  I ride both!  Ive been very surprised with the performance my 4-banger is giving!  I will probably race it in the next race just to see how it stacks up!

[Hoosier Daddy]

well the wife said if i get her a 4 stroke she will leave me! smart woman...

[Quad32x]

well the wife said if i get her a 4 stroke she will leave me! smart woman...

Yea , smart  to  leave.

[Hoosier Daddy]

Im tellin' on you! 

[Quad32x]

Im tellin' on you! 

NO no no no wait  just  a  sec !  My  bad.  I  thought  I  was  talkin  to  Dave !  Yea , thats  the  ticket !  Talkin  to  Dave , yea.  Not  Chris.  No.

[Hoosier Daddy]

UMMHUMM BS! Im still rating you out! 

[Quad32x]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh  he!!.

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[derek330]

chris, she has a good head on her shoulders if she wants a 2-stroke!!! 
rtr- i cant believe you have a 400R and you talk like you 4 stroke is fast..
thats not good!!! A 4stroke should feel slow if you have a good      running R !!??

[RTR_380/450R]

Not saying that my 400R isnt fast.  Havnt had ONE SINGLE R outrun it yet. Just imagine if I actually  pushed it to a 440R or even just ported it!!!   But......... dont count my 450 out!  Remember we built it to be a TT bike!  It definately aint no slouch!!! I can promise you that It performs better than the last 4-banger you beat on the 13th!  It has outrun the last two $4000 Baldwin motors it has raced.

Im just saying that I kinda like to be the underdog!  So let me be the underdog big dawg!  We know I cant run with you boys with my slow stuff, I just like the challenge!  But you know you guys would be pizzed if my 450 did it to ya!

Dont wanna talk to much smack, cause I cant back it up! But its fun nonetheless!

[RTR_380/450R]

i will never, ever, ever, ever get beat off the line by a 4 banger........ :>

Never say never!!

[derek330]

i will never, ever, ever, ever get beat off the line by a 4 banger........ :>

Never say never!!

we will see......!! !! !!    i guess anything could happen....... but i havent had one even close yet......
you are gonna race that 450 in the pro class right? ? ? ? ?

[HillKiller]

   Just wanted to remind everybody the next race is June 10th @ 7pm...seeing how its been awhile!

[Chuck_Norris]

hey chris me an superstarr are gettin tired of hearin your ride screamin GET OFF ME YOU FAT PIG! every time you get on it. [jus like the girls in skooll did!] bout time you lost some of that lard! if you spent more time workin on that motor instead of stuffin that ugly mug of yours praps that weed wacker mite run for more than five mins! the theory that more is better may be workin on your  belly but it sure aint on your motor.lol. jus kiddin you noe we luv you!!! 

PERSONAL FOUL 20 YARDS!!! FOREFIT OF DOWN

[Hoosier Daddy]

Oh lets not start that up again.....
The guilty party has been found...

[RTR_380/450R]

i will never, ever, ever, ever get beat off the line by a 4 banger........ :>

Never say never!!

we will see......!! !! !!    i guess anything could happen....... but i havent had one even close yet......
you are gonna race that 450 in the pro class right? ? ? ? ?

Yeah, I guess! Got some tires coming for both 450's and the 400R, Ill race the 450 and Marshall will race the Polanda. Were gonna bring another 250r (pretty much stock) and maybe POPS will race it.  Were not even going to try to set them up for the track until we race the track for the first time.  Were just gonna run our TT/MX setups and see how we do with just changing to FT tires.  Dont think I can beat you guys to the hole but Ill be close and we will see what happens from there.  We havnt raced True Flattrack in 10 yrs.  Its time we give it a run again.

[derek330]

i will never, ever, ever, ever get beat off the line by a 4 banger........ :>

Never say never!!

we will see......!! !! !!    i guess anything could happen....... but i havent had one even close yet......
you are gonna race that 450 in the pro class right? ? ? ? ?

Yeah, I guess! Got some tires coming for both 450's and the 400R, Ill race the 450 and Marshall will race the Polanda. Were gonna bring another 250r (pretty much stock) and maybe POPS will race it.  Were not even going to try to set them up for the track until we race the track for the first time.  Were just gonna run our TT/MX setups and see how we do with just changing to FT tires.  Dont think I can beat you guys to the hole but Ill be close and we will see what happens from there.  We havnt raced True Flattrack in 10 yrs.  Its time we give it a run again.

sounds cool man!! you just need to know that some of those 4 strokes in the pro class like tim sisson are pretty damn fast!!! i think that will be your main comp.
i wouldnt go talkin crap about out running the 4 strokes because i think you are gonna be suprised!! !! !!

Not saying that my 400R isnt fast.  Havnt had ONE SINGLE R outrun it yet. Just imagine if I actually  pushed it to a 440R or even just ported it!!!   But......... dont count my 450 out!  Remember we built it to be a TT bike!  It definately aint no slouch!!! I can promise you that It performs better than the last 4-banger you beat on the 13th!  It has outrun the last two $4000 Baldwin motors it has raced.

Im just saying that I kinda like to be the underdog!  So let me be the underdog big dawg!  We know I cant run with you boys with my slow stuff, I just like the challenge!  But you know you guys would be pizzed if my 450 did it to ya!

Dont wanna talk to much smack, cause I cant back it up! But its fun nonetheless!

he's talkin sh*t you guys!! !! i think its time to show him what the deal is!! and dont worry i will have it on video!!!!!!! just because you out run other slow 4 strokes (no matter how much they cost) dont mean that you will outrun these!! !!
as far as never getting beat by another R you must not ever race any fast ones!!
the fact that you dont think your 400R is WAY!!!!! faster than you 450 must mean that your 400 aint that fast......  like i said we will see....
ya'll 4 stroke guys arnt gonna take this crap from him are ya??
are yall racing the 10th or what??? scott might run his bike.... or we might just come down and see the action!!!

[Hoosier Daddy]

anyone know who this is in the bottom right corner?

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[Scott270r]

Derek & RTR,

It will be some time before we can see. A 400 Polanda SHOULD be faster than us. But like anything, I am certainly not going to roll over and play dead. I want to win just as much as everyone in the open class and if you beat me, I'll be the first to shake your hand because you earned it. I don't sandbag and I give it all I have got every time I race. I sense that the kidding has hit a nerve and I don't want to set the stage for any hard feeling even before we MEET you guys. Its all cool, Derek and I have had good sucess so far and I hope to keep it up but who knows.

RTR,

Tim Sisson is a super good rider and he will be miserably hard to beat. I think you will find that out. I am going to bow out gracefully for now as I really need to rebuild the 18 year old parts in my engine. But I can't wait to see what your 450 and Polanda have up against my 330R. I hope to be the hardest most miserable competition you have seen in a while when we meet in a month or so. In the meantime, Derek and I will come down to watch and spy on you guys and see how fast those bikes are in person June 10th.

[RTR_380/450R]

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE  DONT THINK YOU GUYS ARE STRIKING A NERVE!!!!!!  Chris, Quad and a few other can tell you that when I write this stuff, I have a huge smile on my face!  Its really cool to talk to people that have the same things in common and are trying to have fun!!!  NOT TAKING ANYTHING THE WRONG WAY! PROMISE!

Sisson is fast, Ill give you that!  I think we even did some of his motor work!!  Ask Sisson about Sand Mountain! I dont remember him running the pro class! But he can tell ya! But keep in mind, theres a reason I usually win the pro class at all the races we enter!  It might be because we got a little sumpin!
As far as the 400R not being way faster than my 450-- Im trying real hard to be humble!  The 400 will speak for itself. Not saying there arent R's that can outrun it, but Ill tell you there hasnt been one yet.  Keep in mind Ive raced an ESR 380 PV motor for a long time that outran every R It went up against.  The 400 is FASTER! And with no actual motor work! The problem is keeping it from spinning so much. But if you think the other 4-bangers there are going to outrun me  You might be right, we'll just have to see! But Ive beaten 380's, 350's, 330's, and the 400R with it!  Alot different kind of racing though!
See if you look at all my posts though,  Im trying to talk "little smack", not "big smack"  because I definately dont want to take anything away from you guys!
I really am trying to be humble being the newcomer to you guy's thread!  But I like to talk smack.  I try real hard to back it up! 

Quad-  Come to my rescue man!  Somebody here has to give me some props that has seen us race!

[derek330]

its cool man all we are doing is talk smack too. i am sure your bikes are fast. when we meet up may the best man win!! !! !! !! so your 450r has out ran your 400R? damn i got to see this!! !! !! quad where you at back this man up fooooo!! !! !! !!

[RTR_380/450R]

Like I said "Totally different kind of racing" 
Just like a 2 stroke will never win a National MX race,  a 4-stroke will never win a National Flattrack race!  Keep in mind though...........  Im a badazz rider on a TT track.
When you got to turn right and left and jump, it becomes a different story.  They always hawk me down on the straightaways, I just eat their lunch in the corners!  Ill never outrun the 400 on a Flattrack.  I probably wont outrun the 330 or a 350 on a flattrack.  I will outrun the 4 bangers!

And,..........  IM NOT BRAGGING ON HOW UNBELIEVABLY FAST THEY ARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  You can only do so much to a motor!  Most of my posts say something to the effect of "I hope I can keep up" or "Im sure you guys wont have a problem beating me" or "Im going to smoke you guys, as soon as someone teaches me to ride and makes my quad fast"   

I just know that we will be in the mix!!!  Maybe last place, but in the mix!