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« Reply #50 on: August 21, 2007, 09:03:11 AM »

Jack, after looking at the information I have here at the office, the link you posted to Keep Florida Rockin' pretty much covers it all.  If you read the articles and follow the links, you will see this is not a good thing for Florida's economy.  Granted, the numbers published are extrapolated from the FDOT report and might not be totally accurate, but it is a good indication of how this ruling will affect each and every one of us.
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« Reply #51 on: August 21, 2007, 09:26:59 AM »

Jack, after looking at the information I have here at the office, the link you posted to Keep Florida Rockin' pretty much covers it all.  If you read the articles and follow the links, you will see this is not a good thing for Florida's economy.  Granted, the numbers published are extrapolated from the FDOT report and might not be totally accurate, but it is a good indication of how this ruling will affect each and every one of us.


I do plan to read it further, but It reminds me of the report on children's safety on atvs from the the parents of dead and injured children's site vs the atv manufacturers safety site. Very contrasting views. I wish the travel agents had a comparable site to the rockin one. Wink


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« Reply #52 on: August 21, 2007, 11:40:12 AM »

It's true that each group will always spin the evidence to support their side but when you have the State of Florida Department of Transportation pushing to keep the mines open, especially when the State has repeatedly shown it will lean towards the conservationists on land use issues, it's a fairly good indication that the threat is for real.  One of the alternatives the aggregate suppliers are looking at is the purchase of small chains of islands in the Bahamas.  Those un-inhabited islands would be dug up for their limestone, put on barges, and shipped to Florida.  So you tell me, would you rather have the Lake Belt mines open or see the start of the destruction of the Bahamas?  Limestone is one of the most important construction materials.  It provides the bedding for out roadways, it is the primary raw material in the production of cement, limestone aggregate is mixed with the cement to make concrete.  There are no alternative sources of limestone that can produce the quality and quantity of limestone the Lake Belt region does that doesn't involve huge distances and the associated enormous transport expense.  The whole mess started when benzene was detected in the waters of the dragline pits.  The source of the benzene was traced back to the blasting caps that were being used.  Even though the mine operators changed to a different blasting cap, the Sierra Club had already swayed the judge to their side and the closure eventually went through.  This is a battle that has been waged under the media radar for several years.  Don't get me wrong; I'm all for protecting the environment but at some point, you have to draw the line when conservation becomes so cost-prohibitive that you seriously impact the lives of those for who you try to protect.  Does it make any sense to destroy tens of thousands of jobs, expend billions of taxpayer's dollars, just to 'save' a couple thousand acres of land that will ultimately end up being residential and commercial developments anyways if they are not used for the landowner's intended purpose?  And let me re-iterate that; the Lake Belt lands are privately owned land.  This is not public land being used by private concerns.  Aside from the benzene issue (which has been resolved), the mining activities do not impact the environment in any manner.  It is an issue where one group (the Sierra Club) is telling another group (the mine owners) what they can and cannot do with their own property; activities that have been going on for 50 years.  This is not an issue that one person should have the right to determine; Judge Hoeveler.  In fact, this person does not have the right.  It is an abuse of judicial powers.  The legislature is the only branch that has the right to create laws.  The judicial branch only has the authority to determine if the laws breach the terms of the Constitution.  Judge Hoeveler denied the mine owners due process.  The truly disturbing part of it is that not only has he denied them their Constitutional rights, but he has denied them their source of income while burdening them with the expense of fighting his abuse of power.  All the while, thousands of jobs have been immediately lost while tens of thousands more hang in the balance, waiting for the trickle-down effect.
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« Reply #53 on: March 22, 2008, 09:20:32 PM »

Poisoned Well a Miami New Times article.
http://news.miaminewtimes.com/2008-03-20/news/poisoned-well/
Off topic , Lake Belt discussion revisited.
Good article.

What was contaminating our drinking water? Who knows - Dade officials stopped looking.


By Isaiah Thompson 
Published: March 20, 2008
·   Jeffrey Delannoy
 
The benzene contamination came to light only after activist Barbara Lange (pictured with attorney Paul Schwiep) stumbled upon it while leafing through a public records request.
·   Jeffrey Delannoy
 
On his radio show, Miami Lakes councilman and attorney Mike Pizzi has made it his mission to go after WASD head John Renfrow (right).
Subject(s): water supply, benzene contamination, North Miami-Dade, rock mining
Bill Brant, then-director of Miami-Dade County Water and Sewer Department, got the news January 4, 2005: Benzene, a cancer-causing chemical, had been detected at a county water treatment facility. It was coming from the Northwest Wellfield, which supplies the majority of the county's drinking water. One of 15 wells there had registered benzene levels five times the limit established by the Environmental Protection Agency. Somewhere, somehow, a dangerous amount of the chemical had entered the water supply.
 
Benzene, used in everything from shaving cream to industrial lubricant, became a fuel additive in the Sixties, which released it into the air and occasionally, when it spilled, into the water. In 1977, after exposure to the chemical was found to increase incidents of leukemia, it was listed by the EPA as a hazardous pollutant.
The legal limit for benzene in drinking water is one part per billion. Brant's staff had found five parts per billion in the water. Brant ordered the contaminated well — and four neighboring wells — shut down until the source was detected. Within a few weeks, samples from a second well — now closed — also registered traces of benzene. By that time, Brant had already called for a full-scale investigation, regardless of cost, which grew to nearly $1 million in a few months. The investigation might have cost the director his job.
A public servant for more than 30 years, Brant was hardly known for heroics. He was a bureaucrat, a bean counter who rose through the ranks of the Water and Sewer Department (WASD) — and, before that, the county's Department of Environmental Resource Management (DERM) — slowly and unglamorously, one small, steady step at a time. Indeed many environmentalists saw Brant as cautious to a fault, reluctant to rock the boat when county politics and water science were at odds with each other.
Not this time. The discovery of benzene in the Northwest Wellfield, Brant would later testify in a court hearing, deeply disturbed him. "Benzene didn't belong in our wellfield," he would say later. "We were very alarmed."
Click here to view maps and pictures of the wellfields.
Had Brant had any inkling of what was to come, he might have been even more alarmed. The investigation, which would consume the rest of his career in Miami, would never be completed. The contamination continued for years and wasn't brought to the public's attention by the county. Instead, facts brought to light in later testimony — as well as new findings by New Times — suggest the mystery of benzene was never meant to be solved. Questions about what caused the carcinogen to enter the water supply — and whether it could happen again — remain unanswered.
South Florida depends on one source for all of its potable water: the vast underground sea of clean, fresh water known as the Biscayne Aquifer. The majority of Miami's water — about 150 million gallons per day — is drawn from the Northwest Wellfield, a roughly 2,000-acre area situated in the muddy, desolate wetlands west of Florida's Turnpike.
The remote, half-wild location was supposed to ensure that Miami-Dade's drinking water would be pumped from a source safe from contamination by development and industry. Until now, it had worked.
Click here to read more of Brant's testimony.
The threat was not immediate. The Hialeah water treatment facility is capable of removing benzene at up to about 250 parts per billion from water and releasing it into the air. But relying on man-made, and therefore fallible, treatment went against Brant's basic principle of protecting our water at the source. "The approach has always been not to rely on any kind of a water treatment plan, but to look at it as a back-up system and always keep the water supply itself, the groundwater supply itself, pure," he later testified.
The Northwest Wellfield was the last pristine water source left in the county; for Brant, its contamination was a tragedy. More disturbing than the tainting itself was the fact that neither Brant nor anyone else had a clue what the source might be.
Days after the benzene was discovered, Brant assembled a team to investigate. Ana Caveda, who had spent years probing environmental contaminations, toxic spills, and pollution cases, was chosen as its leader.
"[WASD assistant director George Rodriguez] told me to put my hound dog nose to the ground to investigate the benzene," she later testified. "It was an emergency — because our source of potable drinking water was at stake." (None of the WASD employees involved in the investigation could be reached for comment.)
She and the three other members of the team set up base camp — a fold-out canopy and a couple of lawn chairs — in the wellfield next to Production Well 1, where the contamination had first been detected. For the next seven months, Caveda spent nearly every working moment in the wellfield, trying to track down the source of the benzene, most commonly the result of spills from petroleum products.
Caveda explored the area by swamp buggy and by foot. She combed the lonely woods, finding ancient paths and following endless miles of ATV tracks into the remote, swampy muck. She found the remains of old fires, abandoned scrap heaps, and even a half-submerged fuel storage tank and a car that had been dumped in a nearby lake. All were quickly ruled out.
Brant's team had begun exploring the possibility that the benzene was originating from a deeper and more distant source. The chemical, according to Bill Pitt, a professional civil engineer and hydrologist on Brant's team, was being drawn into the wells; it couldn't possibly be coming from nearby, for it would have to flow against the current created by the pumps.

But if it wasn't a spill, what was the cause? There is only one industrial presence in the area: rock mining. The wellfield is bordered by rock mines owned by White Rock Quarries and Florida Rock. As Brant's team followed the path of ever-higher concentrations of benzene, it led them south and east — right to the rock mines.
Anyone considering moving to Mars might want to have a look at the White Rock quarry to get a feel for the view. Situated directly between the communities of western Miami-Dade County and the wellfield that supplies their water, the quarry is a vast, blinding expanse of white — the color of crushed limestone — set against a backdrop of scraggly, grayish-green vegetation.
The quarry sits at the very end of NW 58th Street, past the seemingly endless strip malls, big-box stores, and cookie-cutter subdivisions — all built with Florida limestone — where the road abruptly narrows and appears to end in the bushes. It doesn't end, though; behind the brush, it opens onto another world.
Massive earth movers, caked in a gray crust of mud and dust, rumble along the road, hauling piles of crushed limestone. Near the quarry entrance stands a shack, a small cafeteria for the workers, its plastic tables outside turned gray with a coat of limestone powder. To the south is the mining pit — a vast, almost perfectly square lake, its water an unnatural, almost turquoise hue, stretching far into the distance.
It just so happens limestone, the same material that contains and naturally filters all of South Florida's drinking water, makes great concrete. It has been mined in this area since the Fifties. In the late Nineties, the Florida Legislature set aside for mining companies the so-called Lake Belt region, of which the Northwest Wellfield is a part. The "lakes" are the result of blasting and are large enough to be seen from space.
Florida produces and consumes more rock — crushed limestone in particular — than any other state except California. Without the cheap rock coming out of the Everglades, the building of South Florida as we know it today would not have been possible.
Florida's development boom gave the rock miners unprecedented wealth to invest. They bought political influence, hiring high-profile lobbyists such as Ron Book, Kerri Barsh, former County Manager Sergio Pereira, and Miami megalawyer Miguel De Grandy. In 2004, De Grandy successfully lobbied the county commission to do away with requiring rock miners to hold public hearings in order to obtain permits.
Among the sponsors of that ordinance was Commissioner Natacha Seijas, one of the miners' most loyal allies. In her 2004 re-election campaign, she received at least $2,500 from 13 donors connected to the mining industry, including Barsh and De Grandy. In addition, in 2006, White Rock Quarries and Barsh's law firm contributed a combined $10,000 to a committee fighting Seijas's recall.
Brant's team had begun to suspect the benzene was coming from the rock mines. For one thing, in an area otherwise devoid of development or industry, it was impossible not to notice the proximity of the mines, whose operations had expanded right up to the edge of the wellfield. Getting to the pumps required a drive through a rock mine.
Early in her investigation, Caveda passed through property leased by Florida Rock to get to a monitoring well. She asked her escort, the environmental manager for the site, how the mining process worked. She learned that as many as 40 four-inch-wide holes were drilled into the ground, filled with explosives, and blown up. The holes, Caveda noted with special interest, were drilled 60 feet deep — the same depth at which the highest levels of benzene were being found. She began inquiring about the nature of the fuel the company used and learned that most of the mining firms were using ANFO — ammonium nitrate fuel oil — of which a small constituent is benzene.
The miners denied the blasting could have anything to do with the contamination... 
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http://news.miaminewtimes.com/2008-03-20/news/poisoned-well/
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