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« on: October 03, 2006, 08:10:58 PM »

I SEE ADS ABOUT THEM ALL THE TIME BUT NEVER SEE ANYONE WITH THEM. DOES ANYONE KNOW IF THEYRE ANY GOOD? Shocked
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« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2006, 08:40:30 PM »

I've never used them, but have Elka's on my Pred, and they are like magic!
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« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2006, 09:12:41 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2006, 09:18:15 PM »

I just finished doing a ton of research for my son's quad.  I talked to quite a few people and the general consensus was this:

If you know what you're doing, go with the Black Widows.  They are 4 way adjustable which makes them too complicated for the general user.  If you know how to truly set up a shock, the Black Widow is a far better shock than anything else out there.  Otherwise, go with Elka.  Now that was advice I received for a particular brand of racing mini quad but I would venture to say the advice would still fit for anything you might be riding.

When I was researching for my Raptor (I never considered the Black Widows), the consensus was that the Elka's were better if you were airing it out but  tended to be a bit harsh on stutter bumps.  TCS supposedly gives a better all around ride.  I went with the TCS long travel shocks with Laeger +2 a-arms.  I can't tell you how much better the Rappy handles with a quality suspension.  My only regret was not realizing how much wider the bike becomes in the woods with a few extra inches.  I'm actually looking for new rims with negative offset to narrow up the front end a bit.  Hopefully, if I go that route, I'll be able to dial back the compression enough to counteract the decrease in leverage.  Bottom line is that unless you are really serious and have the time to setup high and low speed compression and rebound properly, go with a less complicated shock.
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« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2006, 10:08:37 PM »

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« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2006, 09:04:00 PM »

Works shocks suck....
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« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2006, 09:06:59 PM »

stick to stock or get something else Wink
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« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2006, 01:22:16 AM »

I guess anything is better than stock, but IMO Works are the garage sale version of aftermarket shocks. If I was building a quad on a tight budget, I would look for quality used shocks before I bought them. For the price of those Black Widows, you can get Fox Shox or any other reputable brand.
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« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2006, 06:59:25 AM »

Keep in mind, guys, there are not a whole lot of shocks out there for the mini quads.  The basic premise holds:

Unless you are a serious racer, stick with a less complicated shock.  There are some great shocks available for a lot less than the Black Widows.  Most people will be perfectly happy with a shock that offers only compression adjustment.  Many of the better shocks offer both compression and rebound adjustment.  Damn few riders will ever touch their shocks, except with a soapy rag, after they install them.  So what's the point with a 4 way adjustable shock if you're only riding once a month?
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« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2006, 08:05:27 AM »

what would be a good shock for someone not wanting to take time to tweak them? an elka recreational shock? a fox shock? and how hard is it to adjust them to perfect?if it wasnt hard i wouldnt mind but i dont know?
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« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2006, 09:02:01 AM »

My Elka's are the sport and recreation series, rebound and compression damping,quad rate springs. Set up was simple. Set your ride height as directed, and use comp and rebound damping to fine tune them. If you are not going to take the time to learn how to properly tune your shocks, you will just be wasting your money.
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« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2006, 01:22:37 PM »

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« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2006, 09:33:55 PM »

Works shocks suck....

I have triple rates with rezies on a Z400 and I think they are great. Whats wrong with yours?
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« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2006, 09:36:23 PM »

Works shocks suck....

I have triple rates with rezies on a Z400 and I think they are great. Whats wrong with yours?

Ride something else like Axis, Fox, or PEP and let me know how great the Works are
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« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2006, 09:47:57 PM »

Works shocks suck....

I have triple rates with rezies on a Z400 and I think they are great. Whats wrong with yours?

Ride something else like Axis, Fox, or PEP and let me know how great the Works are

EXmx54's point is that you really don't know what "better" is until you ride it. The first aftermarket shock I had was Elka. I thought they were the sh!t until I rode a quad set up for my weight with PEP's. I was shocked at how much "better" shocks can be.
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