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General / Open Discussion / Re: Hills. county shot and killed my dog today
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on: May 16, 2007, 12:29:31 AM
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Her husband and dog never made it to my house before he got across the field the cops left and headed to his house. I would assume he seen my hand pointing towards his house and turned around and headed back across the field to find out what they wanted. They made it there before he got the dog back in the fence and inside that house.
As for the Truck yes it has a lift kit. it sits pretty far off the ground. All of the blood from Cheech was under the truck.
I don't have the News paper any more. but I believe I read the detective said he shot the dog and it went down. So if that was the case why 3 more shots. the dog was no longer a threat. Now I could be wrong on that wording so don't hold me to that.
As for her story changing. it has but it hasn't . she has added more information to it and changed wording but the story is still the same. The police are the ones that said the dog came out of the gate. it was already out of the gate. and if they were looking over it they would have had to been at the gate and the dog would not have been able to get out as it opens out. they would have been leaning on it to see over therfore holding it closed.
If the detective was threatened by Cheech. which only the 2 detectives and cheech would know that. they of course had a right to protect themselfs . no one is argueing that. They just didn't have to kill him. Killing should always be the last resort not the first. there are many options to take before it comes to killing
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General / Open Discussion / Re: Hills. county shot and killed my dog today
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on: May 16, 2007, 12:10:27 AM
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I believe there is a beware of dog sign on the gate as well. but I am not positive. I have about 5 up at my place. cuz I know my dog would attack without a thought.
The law requires anyone with a so called aggressive breed dog to post rather the dog is aggressive or not. People see that sign and automatically assume the dog is aggressive. Some people see that sign and assume that there is no dog and the sign is only there to ward off the thiefs, then they walk in your yard and get bit then sue. And that sign that said beware of dog doesn't save you.
The Cheech story could have been different. there were so many other options. The actions of 1 should not reflect the many. As stated a few times Not all Cops are bad, not all Pits are bad.
I feel bad for my daughter. She posted here to warn others that have Pits that are like her Cheech. Alot of the posters seen that and sympathized with her and her loss. Then others decided to attack her or go on the defensive. once that happened it turned into an all out bash on law enforcement.
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General / Open Discussion / Re: Hills. county shot and killed my dog today
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on: May 15, 2007, 11:33:00 PM
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this morning at about 6:45 am 2 undercover cops showed up at my moms house so my husband and my dog walked over there to find out what was going
Ride1Rob above is what she posted in her original post. she never said it was her mother in law. so before you post you should have your facts.
I didn't attack you and neither did she. her story is the same. and OMG its obviouse whos the law enforcement in here. you are all on the defensive when all she was doing was putting her story out there to possible save anyone else from the tragedy she went throu.
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General / Open Discussion / Re: Hills. county shot and killed my dog today
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on: May 15, 2007, 09:30:01 PM
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Well I am her mother. and let me clear a few things up.
1. The warrent wasn't issued for her address. it was issued for Robert Davis at my address. The Davis boys and there father use to live at my address. The 2 plan clothed detectives banged on my door at 6:30am like I was the worlds biggest criminal. one was at my front door the other was around the back of my trailer. I sent them over to her address. Still half asleep not knowing who exactly they were looking for but a Davis. Or why they were looking for them. I never told the officers that Robert Davis was over there. I said the Davis's moved over there. the never knocked on her front door to ask if he was there or if she knew where he was. they were looking over her privacy fence in her back yard. that is posted no treaspassing. now from what I know of the law. they legally had no right to be looking over her fence as the warrent wasn't for that address. The only right they had there is to knock on there door and ask them if he was there or if they knew where to find them . They had more rights to search my home for Robert Davis then they did hers.
2. This dog doesn't grawl at anyone. people are always over there around them dogs. as they collect the rent for the trailer park I live in. This dog is the most docile animal I have ever seen. no matter what anyone does to it it just walks away. Doesn't matter if it is a person from the famaily or someone that pulled in there drive way to look at an 3 or 4 wheeler or dropping one off to be fixed.
3. Because the officers had a warrent for Robert Daves does not mean he is a criminal. As she repeatedly said he didn't pay a 500.00 court ordered child support payment. Does that make him a criminal? NOT. But the cops sure acted like he was Americas top wanted.
4. I can't say the dog didn't growl or move towards the detective. Only he can. But I can so it not likely. But even if it had Did he have the right to shot it 4 times? As a federal officer said. rules of engagement say no.
Had that been my pit. I would be upset and distraught. But I also would have known the detective was right to shot and kill her. as she would have taken his throat apart. I raised my pit for protection. I love her dearly and would never want anything to happen to her. And I am greatful my 14yr. step daughter was smart enough to close my pit up in her room before she answered the door at 6:30 this morning. Cuz my dog would have went for the detective.
As for the leash law. It is never enforced till a police officer shots and kills someones dog. I take my dog out on a leash, but only because she is aggressive and very protective of me and mine. But I see people walking around bay shore with there dogs without leashes and the police do nothing. Most people don't cuz they know there dog would not harm a flee.
You can all say what you want. but all pits are not agressive. It is a stero type peroid. All the reports about dogs attacking are half stories. the press don't always tell you everything. If you believe they do then you probly believe that the government never lies and has never hidden a thing from us common folk.
Any breed of dog can be aggressive under the right situation. even a so called harmeless poodle.
As for picking on her because of her grammer. give her a break she is distraught. and you would be too if someone shot your dog 4 times and killed it. No matter what the situation was. 4 Times is obsessive. If that Detective had shot a person 4 times people would be outraged. And did he really have to kill the dog? Most animals will run off from the sound of the gun shot. What happened to using pepper spray or tazer? This officer had other options. He darn sure didn't have to shot to kill. Like a deer you wound it, it runs. so does every other animal.
Rather the dog growles and lunged for the officer or not he was still in the wrong. He did not have to Kill Cheech. He could have pepper sprayed him, Tazered him, or wounded him. A shot to the hind end would have stopped the dog from attacking if it was attacking.
I know these officers put there lifes on the line everyday and get little respect for it. But we all know they aren't always right in the actions they take. Killing a dog or a person should always be there last resort not there first.
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