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1  General / Open Discussion / Re: To Everyone Here on: November 24, 2011, 10:09:41 AM
Happy Grin T. Day Got some good old woods pork on the grill smoking lets eat.
2  General / Open Discussion / Re: Read This PLEASE! on: October 13, 2011, 05:38:46 PM
Well said MedicMudder us ATV's and hunters have the same rights to enjoy the land as the Tree Huggers back off.
3  General / Group Rides & Events / Re: St. Lucie Mud Jam! on: September 20, 2011, 05:30:52 PM
http://www.atvflorida.com/forum/index.php/topic,45184.0.html

I put this on here on july 26
4  General / Group Rides & Events / Re: Pumpkin Run 41st Annual on: September 18, 2011, 09:13:26 PM
I would post the shirt but not planing on going thanks for the chance for the pass. Ran the pumpkin run from 1984 thru 2005 that when 3 wheelers were banded so I put my Honda 350 X in the shed and bought a polaris ranger XP Thanks.
5  General / Group Rides & Events / Re: Pumpkin Run 41st Annual on: September 13, 2011, 09:12:44 PM
I got one for the 27th Annual
6  General / Where to Ride? / I may be slow but has anyone seen this on: July 26, 2011, 05:26:57 PM
http://newmudfest.com/
7  General / ATV Activist / Re: Anyone reading about the Everglades Headwater Proposal? on: April 18, 2011, 10:08:18 PM
SMP63 also cant make this one thanks for going lets us know (P.S.) watch them close there full of tricks.
8  General / ATV Activist / Re: Anyone reading about the Everglades Headwater Proposal? on: April 13, 2011, 04:39:53 PM
United States Department of the Interior
FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE
1875 Century Boulevard
Atlanta. Georgia 30345
In Refer Reply To: MAR 2 5 2011
FWS/F4/R4/Axea II
Mr. Pete Edwards
President
River Ranch Property Owners Association
18550 Circle 630 East
Lake Wales, Florida 33898
Dear Mr. Edwards:
The Fish and Wildlife Service (Service) would like to thank you and the members of the River
Ranch Property Owners Association (POA) for your interest in the proposed Everglades
Headwaters National Wildlife Refuge and Conservation Area. As you are aware, we held
several public meetings and another face to face meeting with your organization to listen to the
comments, concerns, and interest that the public and the River Ranch POA had with the
proposal. Public comments and concerns that have been received on the proposal are being
addressed during the next steps of the planning process.
Upon further evaluation, we have determined that the River Ranch properties will no longer be
included in the boundary of the proposed project area. This is based on our commitment to only
work with willing sellers and from the input we have received to date, it is apparent that the
majority of landowners within the River Ranch area would not be willing sellers. The Service
also recognizes the importance of the River Ranch area as an area of high conservation value,
and the important role that the POA has in managing and maintaining the area.
We look forward to continued discussions and the opportunity to build a working conservation
relationship with the POA. We do see the opportunity to work collaboratively on conservation
projects through landowner assistance programs such as the Service's Partners for Fish and
Wildlife program which offers assistance to landowners on conservation planning and habitat
management activities.
Sincerely yours,
Cynthia K. Dohner
Regional Director
TAKE PRIDE TBESLJ
IN AMERICA ^S?^
9  General / Open Discussion / Re: Two Minutes to Help Free Up 43 Million Acres of Public Land on: April 10, 2011, 07:55:27 PM
Takes less than two min. done.
10  General / ATV Activist / Re: Anyone reading about the Everglades Headwater Proposal? on: March 31, 2011, 10:01:28 PM
Gladesman, I email some more tonight lets hope for the best.
11  General / ATV Activist / Re: Anyone reading about the Everglades Headwater Proposal? on: March 25, 2011, 07:57:38 PM
Gladesman, Today went well I do agree that the commissioners did not buy charlies sales pitch but lets not let are guard down Glad I could be there to speak.
Thanks
12  General / ATV Activist / Re: Anyone reading about the Everglades Headwater Proposal? on: March 23, 2011, 10:24:59 PM
Gladesman I will be at the meeting in Okee. to voice.
13  General / Open Discussion / Never give up on: March 21, 2011, 11:55:40 PM
Watch the hole video

Trucktrial part 5
14  General / ATV Activist / Re: Anyone reading about the Everglades Headwater Proposal? on: March 21, 2011, 11:29:42 PM
http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2011/mar/21/rubio-posey-to-speak-during-indian-river-tea-in/

Lets go talk to them in person
15  General / Open Discussion / Please Read and respond (Everglades Headwater) on: March 08, 2011, 10:40:35 PM
In a message dated 3/1/2011 11:44:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, LJMoller@aol.com writes:

Folks here is why the USFWS will not grant the needed money to the Florida Fish & Wildlife Commission (FWC) to purchase the lands and easements in the new Everglades Headwaters NWRs. While this article from a western USA person is mostly about the issues in that part of the USA the ability to designate federal lands as Wild Lands without Congressional oversight, public hearings and NEPA required studies also applies to lands in the Eastern part of the USA - Florida.

 

Today National Wildlife Refuges tomorrow Wilderness Wild Lands and you locked off.

 

Jack Moller-------------------------
 
Sec. Salazar Bypassing Congress Creating New Wild Lands Areas

Secretary Salazar has taken Congressional Power for himself. He's
directing BLM to identify a new category of Wilderness area, what he
is calling Wild Lands.

This is a huge land grab meant to bypass Congress. Only Congress is
supposed to be able to designate Wilderness areas.

-----Word must get out about this quickly. Please forward this
message to your entire e-mail list as soon as you can.

-----Obama Is Eying Western Lands for new National Monuments.

 
What's the Wild Lands problem? What's the solution? Action Items
listed below.

Wilderness Areas and Monuments--- They're Back --- 

 

Interior Secretary Salazar is calling them "Wild Lands." He plans to
set millions of acres aside without Congressional approval . . .
unless you act now.

Only Congress is supposed to designate any new Wilderness Areas.

Secretary Salazar has decided that he can designate Wilderness areas
going around Congress and cutting you out of the process. He's
changing the name and calling the new areas "Wild Lands."

What Interior Secretary Salazar is proposing:

-----220 million acres of unclassified multiple-use lands in the
Western States and Alaska to be set aside for review and
determination if they are “Wild Lands.” (As proposed by the green
groups.)

-----All public lands will be considered for new restrictions that
would limit access;

-----Access limitations would curtail oil and natural gas leasing and
development;

-----Access limitations would restrict mining projects as well as
renewable and alternative energy development;

-----Access limitations could eliminate or reduce grazing;

-----Access limitation would likely eliminate many motorized
recreational uses;

-----The new restrictions could mean no campgrounds, no off-road
vehicle use and limited or no motorized use on many of the existing
roads and trails;

-----The access limitations would mean no way stations for veterinary
or emergency facilities;

-----Snowmobiles and snow machine use would be limited or eliminated
in these new Wild Land Areas. Your popular recreation access would be
cut off;

-----Access for the handicapped, elderly and children using
traditional off highway vehicles or snowmobiles could be eliminated;
and

-----Millions of people would lose access to traditional recreation
areas.

-----Anyone can nominate lands for Wild Lands Designation and it is
immediately presumed to be designated; BLM land use plans are then
required to be amended and all activities on those lands are
affected; and

-----Allows all actions under the Secretary’s Order to be
implemented without any economic or scientific study and without any
public notice, comment or review.

-----The Secretary's Order Scoffs at limitations imposed by the
Courts and laws passed by Congress;

-----This is a violation of the 1964 Wilderness Act that defined
minimum criteria for designation of areas as 'Wilderness';

-----This is violation of the spirit of the Department's 2003
Settlement Agreement with the State of Utah;

-----This action undermines every existing BLM land use plan already
adopted;

-----This action allows bureaucrats answerable to no one to impose
access restrictions to lands as though they have the Congressional
power; and

-----This action ignores the public processes identified and required
by FLPMA and NEPA(Federal Land Policy And Management Act of 1976 and
the National Environmental Policy Act of 1970).

----- The consequences of the Executive Branch (Interior
Department and the Secretary of Interior) taking legislative power to
themselves is staggering:

-----Millions of acres of Federal lands will now be closed to the
public making them off limits to fishing, hunting, camping or riding.

-----Much of today's domestic oil and natural gas is produced in the
affected states. More than 40% of that production comes from Federal
multiple-use lands. The "Wild Lands" designations will result in
delays or outright reductions in leasing and permitting for these and
other development activities.

-----A significant percent of the designated lands will be closed to
future energy uses, including wind farms and transmission lines for
clean energy;

-----These delays and closures will reduce revenues to the states,
counties and the Federal government from bonuses, rents and
royalties;

-----Counties, cities and states will lose much needed revenue. If
your county is already struggling with a budget deficit, these delays
in economic activities and land closures will result in the loss of
income from oil and gas revenues, ranching revenues and mining
revenues making the problem much worse;

-----The whole economic ecosystem of most Western States and counties
will by strangled in red tape and bureaucracy right in the middle of
our worst recession in 70 years;

-----Schools, libraries, police and fire protection will lose
important funding;

-----At a time when the national unemployment level is over 10% more
people will lose their jobs as resource based industries on Federal
lands are shut down; and

-----At a time when federal deficits are in the trillions, the
federal government will lose funds and billions of dollars in future
income and economic activity.

----- WHAT YOU CAN DO TO STOP THIS LAND GRAB

-----ACTION ITEMS:

-----1. Please forward this message to your entire e-mail list. The
more people who hear about this giant land grab the better chance you
have to defeat it.

-----2. Call, fax and e-mail any Democrat Senator from your state.
You can get their contact information by calling any Senator at (202)
224-3121. You should also contact the Republicans.

Urge him or her to join the effort to rescind the Secretary's Wild
Lands Order and stop the designation of any land in your state.

He or she can do it if they want to. It is a question of will. Make
sure he or she knows you will remember how they respond to this land
grab in coming elections.

-----3. Call, fax and e-mail any Democrat and Republican Congressmen
from your state urging them to oppose the Secretary's Wilderness
power grab through budget cuts, targeted prohibition and staff
reductions.

They can do it if they want to bad enough. You may call any
Congressman at (202) 225-3121. Make sure they know this will be an
issue in the 2012 election.

-----4. Forward this message to any people in the Tea Party movement.
This Secretarial big government land grab and increase in the deficit
is exactly the kind of thing they oppose.

-----5. Call your friends and neighbors to get them to call your
Congressman and both Senators. Ask them to do the same things we have
outlined above.

-----6. Ask Congress to take away all funding for Interior Secretary
Salazar's Wild Lands backroom order and any implementation that is
already in process.

-----7. Call, fax and e-mail your Congressman. All Congressmen may be
called at (202) 225-3121. That is the Capitol Switchboard. Ask for
your Congressman. When that office answers, ask for the person who
handles the BLM. Ask for his fax and e-mail address.

-----8. Call, fax and e-mail your Senator. All Senators may be called
at (202) 224-3121. Follow the same instructions as listed above.

The key is to make the Members of Congress in the Senate and House
responsible for the actions of the Secretary, especially his allies,
the Democrats.

Your calls will get your Congressman and Senator to ask President
Obama to direct the Secretary to suspend application of the Wild
Lands Order.

-----9. Call the White House at (202) 456-1111

-----http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

If you make enough calls, you can stop anything.

-----There must be an uprising of opposition to the application of
the Secretary's Wild Lands Order in each state insisting that the
Democrat Senators and Congressman from that state forcefully request
that Obama direct the Secretary not to designate Wild Lands in your
state.

-----You must know that President Obama will not designate any Wild
Lands in states where there are a significant number of Democrat
Senators or Congressmen in opposition. He will not want to risk
losing his allies in next years election.

-----You must make any Democrat Senators and Congressmen from your
state responsible for the designation of any Wild Lands in your
state. If they oppose them, the Secretary can be directed by Obama to
not designate the Wild Lands in these states.

By taking this action, one of two things will happen. First, your
Democrat Senators and Congressmen may be successful in getting Obama
to take lands in your state out of any Wild Lands Designation
process. That would begood for your state. The Democrat Senators and
Congressmen in your state would get some credit but that is OK if you
stop the designations.

The second thing that could happen is that if you make enough noise
and clamor about this huge land grab, and Obama allows Interior
Secretary Salazar to go ahead and designate the Wild Lands, it will
make your Democrat Senators and Congressmen look weak and
ineffective.

That will help you defeat them in November 2012. Many are already
vulnerable and will not be eager to get the credit for creating more
Federal land set asides and hurting their local governments. And that
is exactly what they will be doing if they do not help you stop the
Wild Lands Designations now.

You must make your Democrat Senators and Congressmen responsible for
any Wild Lands designations in your state.

-----Don't make your calls like a threat. Just make it clear that you
and your neighbors are watching the Secretary's actions and those of
the unelected and unaccountable bureaucracies and will remember how
your Senators and Congressmen did or did not act to defend you from
the Obama land grabbers.

-----Everyone must pitch in, even if you have no potential Wild Lands
or Wilderness Study areas in your state at this point. This is a team
game; anyone losing property rights or access to Federal lands as a
result of Secretary Salazar's sneak attack on rural America means
everyone loses.

Remember what is happening is government taking access to and the use
of Federal lands by Salazar signing an order in a back room, dark of
night sneak attack without any public involvement.

The Interior Department and BLM make the rules, make the decisions
and no one, not even Congress, has control or oversight.

If the new Wild Lands rules don't hurt you today, they can and likely
will hurt you tomorrow. The Federal agencies can change the rules in
the back room, dark of night strategy they used to create the Wild
Lands with no notice, comment, or control.

This is a team game. If enough people are outraged, you can stop
anything.

Remember your concern about the proposed Obama National Monuments
last year? Early last year "Secret" documents from the Interior
Department identified more than 13 million acres were being
considered for "conservation". These areas included Arizona deserts,
California mountains, Montana prairies, New Mexico forests,
Washington islands and the Great Basins of Nevada and Colorado.

As a reminder, here is a partial list of the areas that have already
been unsuccessfully targeted by DOI, thanks to your efforts last
year:

-----Otero Mesa, New Mexico: The area stretches over 1.2 million
acres and is home to 1,000 native species. Gov. Bill Richardson has
sought protection for Otero Mesa for years, but the Bush
administration targeted it for oil and gas development;

-----Heart of the Great Basin, Nevada: Researchers call it a
"globally unique assemblage of cultural, wildlife and historic
values" that includes thousands of petroglyphs and stone artifacts
dating back 12,000 years;

-----Owyhee Desert, Oregon: Called one of the most remote areas of
the United States, the Owyhee is home to the largest herd of
California bighorn sheep;

-----Bodie Hills, California: Located in the fast growing eastern
Sierra Nevada mountains;Bodie contains the Golden State's best
preserved ghost town. But the area is also loaded with gold, and
several mining permits are pending; and

-----The Modoc Plateau, California: Spanning close to 3 million acres
in the northwest corner of California, the Modoc Plateau is "laden
with biological and archeological treasures." Interior officials call
it the second largest unprotected landscape in the state.

The Obama National Monument proposal is mild when compared to the
Secretary's Wild Lands Order.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Reminder: If you are the target of one of Obama and Salazar’s Wild
Lands, Wilderness Study Areas, National Monuments, Treasured
Landscape or other land grab, but sure to call American Land Rights
for help. ALRA can show you how to fight back and win against the
land grabbers.

American Land Rights works hard to help you compete in the political
process in Congress. Your support is critical to provide the
resources to allow ALRA to be successful.

Please go to www.landrights.org <http://www.landrights.org/>
to join American Land Rights and provide your support. Membership is
$35 unless this is your first year. If you are a new member, you may
join at $25 for the first year.

You can use the place on the Home Page to make your membership
contribution or you may mail it to American Land Rights, PO Box 400,
Battle Ground, WA 98604.

Sincerely,
March -- 2011
Chuck Cushman
ccushman@pacifier.com
(360) 687-3087

If you know of others who would like to receive these alerts, reply
with their e-mail addresses.

Please forward this message as widely as possible. This is a historic
issue.


16  General / ATV Activist / Please Read and respond (Everglades Headwater) on: March 08, 2011, 10:37:37 PM
In a message dated 3/1/2011 11:44:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, LJMoller@aol.com writes:

Folks here is why the USFWS will not grant the needed money to the Florida Fish & Wildlife Commission (FWC) to purchase the lands and easements in the new Everglades Headwaters NWRs. While this article from a western USA person is mostly about the issues in that part of the USA the ability to designate federal lands as Wild Lands without Congressional oversight, public hearings and NEPA required studies also applies to lands in the Eastern part of the USA - Florida.

 

Today National Wildlife Refuges tomorrow Wilderness Wild Lands and you locked off.

 

Jack Moller-------------------------
 
Sec. Salazar Bypassing Congress Creating New Wild Lands Areas

Secretary Salazar has taken Congressional Power for himself. He's
directing BLM to identify a new category of Wilderness area, what he
is calling Wild Lands.

This is a huge land grab meant to bypass Congress. Only Congress is
supposed to be able to designate Wilderness areas.

-----Word must get out about this quickly. Please forward this
message to your entire e-mail list as soon as you can.

-----Obama Is Eying Western Lands for new National Monuments.

 
What's the Wild Lands problem? What's the solution? Action Items
listed below.

Wilderness Areas and Monuments--- They're Back --- 

 

Interior Secretary Salazar is calling them "Wild Lands." He plans to
set millions of acres aside without Congressional approval . . .
unless you act now.

Only Congress is supposed to designate any new Wilderness Areas.

Secretary Salazar has decided that he can designate Wilderness areas
going around Congress and cutting you out of the process. He's
changing the name and calling the new areas "Wild Lands."

What Interior Secretary Salazar is proposing:

-----220 million acres of unclassified multiple-use lands in the
Western States and Alaska to be set aside for review and
determination if they are “Wild Lands.” (As proposed by the green
groups.)

-----All public lands will be considered for new restrictions that
would limit access;

-----Access limitations would curtail oil and natural gas leasing and
development;

-----Access limitations would restrict mining projects as well as
renewable and alternative energy development;

-----Access limitations could eliminate or reduce grazing;

-----Access limitation would likely eliminate many motorized
recreational uses;

-----The new restrictions could mean no campgrounds, no off-road
vehicle use and limited or no motorized use on many of the existing
roads and trails;

-----The access limitations would mean no way stations for veterinary
or emergency facilities;

-----Snowmobiles and snow machine use would be limited or eliminated
in these new Wild Land Areas. Your popular recreation access would be
cut off;

-----Access for the handicapped, elderly and children using
traditional off highway vehicles or snowmobiles could be eliminated;
and

-----Millions of people would lose access to traditional recreation
areas.

-----Anyone can nominate lands for Wild Lands Designation and it is
immediately presumed to be designated; BLM land use plans are then
required to be amended and all activities on those lands are
affected; and

-----Allows all actions under the Secretary’s Order to be
implemented without any economic or scientific study and without any
public notice, comment or review.

-----The Secretary's Order Scoffs at limitations imposed by the
Courts and laws passed by Congress;

-----This is a violation of the 1964 Wilderness Act that defined
minimum criteria for designation of areas as 'Wilderness';

-----This is violation of the spirit of the Department's 2003
Settlement Agreement with the State of Utah;

-----This action undermines every existing BLM land use plan already
adopted;

-----This action allows bureaucrats answerable to no one to impose
access restrictions to lands as though they have the Congressional
power; and

-----This action ignores the public processes identified and required
by FLPMA and NEPA(Federal Land Policy And Management Act of 1976 and
the National Environmental Policy Act of 1970).

----- The consequences of the Executive Branch (Interior
Department and the Secretary of Interior) taking legislative power to
themselves is staggering:

-----Millions of acres of Federal lands will now be closed to the
public making them off limits to fishing, hunting, camping or riding.

-----Much of today's domestic oil and natural gas is produced in the
affected states. More than 40% of that production comes from Federal
multiple-use lands. The "Wild Lands" designations will result in
delays or outright reductions in leasing and permitting for these and
other development activities.

-----A significant percent of the designated lands will be closed to
future energy uses, including wind farms and transmission lines for
clean energy;

-----These delays and closures will reduce revenues to the states,
counties and the Federal government from bonuses, rents and
royalties;

-----Counties, cities and states will lose much needed revenue. If
your county is already struggling with a budget deficit, these delays
in economic activities and land closures will result in the loss of
income from oil and gas revenues, ranching revenues and mining
revenues making the problem much worse;

-----The whole economic ecosystem of most Western States and counties
will by strangled in red tape and bureaucracy right in the middle of
our worst recession in 70 years;

-----Schools, libraries, police and fire protection will lose
important funding;

-----At a time when the national unemployment level is over 10% more
people will lose their jobs as resource based industries on Federal
lands are shut down; and

-----At a time when federal deficits are in the trillions, the
federal government will lose funds and billions of dollars in future
income and economic activity.

----- WHAT YOU CAN DO TO STOP THIS LAND GRAB

-----ACTION ITEMS:

-----1. Please forward this message to your entire e-mail list. The
more people who hear about this giant land grab the better chance you
have to defeat it.

-----2. Call, fax and e-mail any Democrat Senator from your state.
You can get their contact information by calling any Senator at (202)
224-3121. You should also contact the Republicans.

Urge him or her to join the effort to rescind the Secretary's Wild
Lands Order and stop the designation of any land in your state.

He or she can do it if they want to. It is a question of will. Make
sure he or she knows you will remember how they respond to this land
grab in coming elections.

-----3. Call, fax and e-mail any Democrat and Republican Congressmen
from your state urging them to oppose the Secretary's Wilderness
power grab through budget cuts, targeted prohibition and staff
reductions.

They can do it if they want to bad enough. You may call any
Congressman at (202) 225-3121. Make sure they know this will be an
issue in the 2012 election.

-----4. Forward this message to any people in the Tea Party movement.
This Secretarial big government land grab and increase in the deficit
is exactly the kind of thing they oppose.

-----5. Call your friends and neighbors to get them to call your
Congressman and both Senators. Ask them to do the same things we have
outlined above.

-----6. Ask Congress to take away all funding for Interior Secretary
Salazar's Wild Lands backroom order and any implementation that is
already in process.

-----7. Call, fax and e-mail your Congressman. All Congressmen may be
called at (202) 225-3121. That is the Capitol Switchboard. Ask for
your Congressman. When that office answers, ask for the person who
handles the BLM. Ask for his fax and e-mail address.

-----8. Call, fax and e-mail your Senator. All Senators may be called
at (202) 224-3121. Follow the same instructions as listed above.

The key is to make the Members of Congress in the Senate and House
responsible for the actions of the Secretary, especially his allies,
the Democrats.

Your calls will get your Congressman and Senator to ask President
Obama to direct the Secretary to suspend application of the Wild
Lands Order.

-----9. Call the White House at (202) 456-1111

-----http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

If you make enough calls, you can stop anything.

-----There must be an uprising of opposition to the application of
the Secretary's Wild Lands Order in each state insisting that the
Democrat Senators and Congressman from that state forcefully request
that Obama direct the Secretary not to designate Wild Lands in your
state.

-----You must know that President Obama will not designate any Wild
Lands in states where there are a significant number of Democrat
Senators or Congressmen in opposition. He will not want to risk
losing his allies in next years election.

-----You must make any Democrat Senators and Congressmen from your
state responsible for the designation of any Wild Lands in your
state. If they oppose them, the Secretary can be directed by Obama to
not designate the Wild Lands in these states.

By taking this action, one of two things will happen. First, your
Democrat Senators and Congressmen may be successful in getting Obama
to take lands in your state out of any Wild Lands Designation
process. That would begood for your state. The Democrat Senators and
Congressmen in your state would get some credit but that is OK if you
stop the designations.

The second thing that could happen is that if you make enough noise
and clamor about this huge land grab, and Obama allows Interior
Secretary Salazar to go ahead and designate the Wild Lands, it will
make your Democrat Senators and Congressmen look weak and
ineffective.

That will help you defeat them in November 2012. Many are already
vulnerable and will not be eager to get the credit for creating more
Federal land set asides and hurting their local governments. And that
is exactly what they will be doing if they do not help you stop the
Wild Lands Designations now.

You must make your Democrat Senators and Congressmen responsible for
any Wild Lands designations in your state.

-----Don't make your calls like a threat. Just make it clear that you
and your neighbors are watching the Secretary's actions and those of
the unelected and unaccountable bureaucracies and will remember how
your Senators and Congressmen did or did not act to defend you from
the Obama land grabbers.

-----Everyone must pitch in, even if you have no potential Wild Lands
or Wilderness Study areas in your state at this point. This is a team
game; anyone losing property rights or access to Federal lands as a
result of Secretary Salazar's sneak attack on rural America means
everyone loses.

Remember what is happening is government taking access to and the use
of Federal lands by Salazar signing an order in a back room, dark of
night sneak attack without any public involvement.

The Interior Department and BLM make the rules, make the decisions
and no one, not even Congress, has control or oversight.

If the new Wild Lands rules don't hurt you today, they can and likely
will hurt you tomorrow. The Federal agencies can change the rules in
the back room, dark of night strategy they used to create the Wild
Lands with no notice, comment, or control.

This is a team game. If enough people are outraged, you can stop
anything.

Remember your concern about the proposed Obama National Monuments
last year? Early last year "Secret" documents from the Interior
Department identified more than 13 million acres were being
considered for "conservation". These areas included Arizona deserts,
California mountains, Montana prairies, New Mexico forests,
Washington islands and the Great Basins of Nevada and Colorado.

As a reminder, here is a partial list of the areas that have already
been unsuccessfully targeted by DOI, thanks to your efforts last
year:

-----Otero Mesa, New Mexico: The area stretches over 1.2 million
acres and is home to 1,000 native species. Gov. Bill Richardson has
sought protection for Otero Mesa for years, but the Bush
administration targeted it for oil and gas development;

-----Heart of the Great Basin, Nevada: Researchers call it a
"globally unique assemblage of cultural, wildlife and historic
values" that includes thousands of petroglyphs and stone artifacts
dating back 12,000 years;

-----Owyhee Desert, Oregon: Called one of the most remote areas of
the United States, the Owyhee is home to the largest herd of
California bighorn sheep;

-----Bodie Hills, California: Located in the fast growing eastern
Sierra Nevada mountains;Bodie contains the Golden State's best
preserved ghost town. But the area is also loaded with gold, and
several mining permits are pending; and

-----The Modoc Plateau, California: Spanning close to 3 million acres
in the northwest corner of California, the Modoc Plateau is "laden
with biological and archeological treasures." Interior officials call
it the second largest unprotected landscape in the state.

The Obama National Monument proposal is mild when compared to the
Secretary's Wild Lands Order.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Reminder: If you are the target of one of Obama and Salazar’s Wild
Lands, Wilderness Study Areas, National Monuments, Treasured
Landscape or other land grab, but sure to call American Land Rights
for help. ALRA can show you how to fight back and win against the
land grabbers.

American Land Rights works hard to help you compete in the political
process in Congress. Your support is critical to provide the
resources to allow ALRA to be successful.

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17  General / ATV Activist / Re: Anyone reading about the Everglades Headwater Proposal? on: February 25, 2011, 11:32:34 PM
Gladesman, I new it was a bunch of crap for sure. But I new you would want to see it. Wink
18  General / ATV Activist / Re: Anyone reading about the Everglades Headwater Proposal? on: February 25, 2011, 06:39:27 PM
I recived this from Evan Hirsche, President
National Wildlife Refuge Association
1250 Connecticut Ave., NW
Suite 600
Washington, DC 20036


Phone: 202-292-2421
Fax: 202-292-2435
email: ehirsche@refugeassociation.org
web: www.refugeassociation.org
Twitter: @WildRefuge
Facebook: National Wildlife Refuge Association


Dear Mr. Melton,

Thank's so much for your thoughtful message concerning the proposed Everglades Headwaters National Wildlife Refuge, and please accept my apologies for the slow response.

As I think you know, the National Wildlife Refuge Association - a national non-profit organization that prides itself on working collaboratively with a diverse array of partners - from the NRA to Defenders of Wildlife - in the service of conservation is working with the Fish and Wildlife Service to make this proposal better and make it work for people like yourself.  Here's the approach we're recommending to the Fish and Wildlife Service:

* That the final Refuge proposal only include willing sellers - this would include eliminating River Ranch from the final proposal.  River Ranch is well managed for fish and wildlife and is conserved through the homeowners association so there is nothing the Fish and Wildlife Service can add to River Ranch;

* That the Florida Fish and Wildlife Commission play a leadership role in the proposed refuge and that the Fish and Wildlife Service work to fund the conservation initiative and play a behind the scenes role except for managing important parcels to endangered species with little recreational value;

* That the Refuge be a small part of a larger conservation initiative and that the state, and other federal agencies such as the Department of Agriculture play equally important roles in conservation.

We also share your concerns about deficits; as we envision it, the majority of the funding will come from three sources: the Farm Bill - money already appropriated; the Land and Water Conservation Fund - monies received from off-shore oil drilling; and dollars from the sale of duck stamps (by law, 98 cents on every dollar to directly to conserving wildlife habitat). Therefore, capital cost of this proposal will not impact the deficit.

Again, I appreciate knowing your concerns about the proposal and hope this message helps answer some of your questions. And please don't hesitate to stay in touch as the process moves forward.


Best,


Evan
19  General / ATV Activist / Re: Anyone reading about the Everglades Headwater Proposal? on: February 18, 2011, 11:40:28 PM
http://www.doi.gov/news/pressreleases/AMERICAS-GREAT-OUTDOORS-Salazar-Helps-Break-Ground-on-Major-Everglades-Restoration-Project.cfm
20  General / Open Discussion / Re: Ranger RZR XP on: January 02, 2011, 08:49:32 PM
These two clips will make up your mind Fool. The test with the commander is with the 800 s the new 900 XP would really kick its donkey.

http://www.polarisindustries.com/en-us/atv-ranger/2011/side-by-side-vehicles/ranger-rzr-xp-900/pages/videos.aspx?WT.si_n=ORV-AD-US-PRMO-NEW_RZR_900_XP&WT.si_x=1&WT.ac=ORV-AD-US-PRMO-NEW_RZR_900_XP

http://www.polarisindustries.com/en-us/atv-ranger/2011/side-by-side-vehicles/ranger-rzr-s-800/pages/videos.aspx?WT.si_n=ORV-AD-US-PRMO-RZR_S_800_COMPP&WT.si_x=1&WT.ac=ORV-AD-US-PRMO-RZR_S_800_COMP
21  General / Open Discussion / Gene Simmons & the band "KISS" (AWESOME) on: December 14, 2010, 05:19:13 PM

I always thought Gene Simmons & the band "KISS" were a bunch of strange people. This was filmed in Iraq at a USO tour of a US Marine Base. Play it and spread it to every single person you know...   
This is really great they left no one out. Our military deserves so much more than we give them.
God Bless them all. Hope you enjoy this like I did


Gene Simmons Military Tribute
22  General / Open Discussion / Clean your Guns and buy ammo on: May 23, 2010, 10:25:28 PM
http://www.wsbtv.com/video/23438021/index.html

http://www.wsbtv.com/video/23438712/index.html



And the president is making jokes and laughing about the borders in arizona. HE is a joke when will he wake up.

I am sure most have seen this from Ken, So why is he over here bad mouthing AZ law. Why are we flying Mexico's flags in Washington at the meeting of the president's.
This is one big eye-opener. And I'd say Americans need to get their eyes opened some way.

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."
--Benjamin Franklin
Mexicans here and in Mexico are rather upset by the recent enactment of stricter anti-illegal alien laws by Arizona's governor.

In light of the following, that position demonstrates the typical double standard used by race-hustlers and assorted something-for-nothings. Read on, and read it to the end.
New Immigration Laws: Read to the bottom or you will miss the message...
1. There will be no special bilingual programs in the schools.
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2. All ballots will be in this nation's language.
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3. All government business will be conducted in our language.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
4. Non-residents will NOT have the right to vote no matter how long they are here.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
5. Non-citizens will NEVER be able to hold political office.
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6. Foreigners will not be a burden to the taxpayers. No welfare, no food stamps, no health care, or other government assistance programs. Any burden will be deported.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
7. Foreigners can invest in this country, but it must be an amount at least equal to 40,000 times the daily minimum wage.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
8. If foreigners come here and buy land... options will be restricted. Certain parcels including waterfront property are reserved for citizens naturally born into this country.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
9. Foreigners may have no protests; no demonstrations, no waving of a foreign flag, no political organizing, no bad-mouthing our president or his policies. These will lead to deportation.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
10. If you do come to this country illegally, you will be actively hunted &, when caught, sent to jail until your deportation can be arranged. All assets will be taken from you.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Too strict?......
The above laws are the current immigration laws of MEXICO !!!
These sound fine to me, NOW, how can we get these laws to be America 's immigration laws??
WAKE UP, AMERICA - we are about to lose our country.........
23  General / Photo Gallery & Videos / Good Stuff just like his Grandpaw on: May 23, 2010, 09:41:45 PM




24  General / Open Discussion / Re: Some thoughts ;-) on: May 18, 2010, 05:30:07 PM
 Huh Huh HuhHuh   Huh?? Lips Sealed
25  General / Open Discussion / Re: How to get a key for a Polaris? on: May 16, 2010, 07:08:27 PM
I lost mine but had a spare and went to my dealer to get a blank to get one made $5.00 for the blank. I say start with a your dealer he may have a code to get a new one cut bottom line start with your dealer. Good luck!!
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