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1  General / Where to Ride? / Re: Clean up ride June 9th -Trail System on: March 01, 2007, 08:57:44 AM

Thats just what they want. so they can write us 500 tickets.


There's more of us than them.They can't ticket us if the ATV's are trailered or in the back of a truck. We just need to get organized and be heard. We need Kawasaki, Polaris, Yamaha, Honda and all the other ATV/dirt bike manufacturers to stand by us (their customers) to lobby Washington to reclaim our lands that have been stolen from us by these criminals in the Forest Service.
2  General / Where to Ride? / Re: Clean up ride June 9th -Trail System on: February 28, 2007, 02:33:34 PM
We all need to continue to show our anger but keeping it tactful is important. I dont want to give up on the ONF even though things are looking really bad. I do however want to put a plug in for MAY 19th, ATV Rally in Lakeland. Please don't under estimate the importance in this event.
I read all the post I can regarding the Forest and other riding areas and the biggest common denominator is our frustration to whats going on against us. Make your voice be heard on MAY 19th in Lakeland......
Just incase you dont surf this entire site here is the link....         http://www.floridaatvrally.com/


Why not protest where we'll be seen? Start parking along HWY 19 bumper to bumper from Salt Springs to Palatka or intersection of 40 and 19 to Salt Springs. Call the media, make signs outing the criminals in the Forest Service(by name) responsible for these closures and demand for their immediate dismissal and the reopening of our forest. They work for us the taxpayers. I'm tired of this sh*t. I have been driving and riding unfettered for over 26 years in the ONF. I tried to play by their rules at deathtrap Rodman and feel like a fish in a bowl. This is unacceptable. I will ride free!
3  General / Where to Ride? / Re: New name for trail system on: February 26, 2007, 10:20:32 AM
It would be nice if the ATV manufacturers would lobby for our rights in Washington to keep OUR forests open, after all if it wasn't for us buying their expensive machines,they wouldn't be in the ATV business. What are they doing for us? We have all seen their commercials on TV showcasing their ATV's riding through woods, mountains and streams. Where is that fantasyland? By the way, that new trail system at Rodman is a lawsuit waiting to happen. I nearly got creamed headon on going around one of their narrow blind corners. I was there this Sunday and the only thing I saw groomed was the parking area. The pit was surrounded by about 80 of their asinine little white "foot travel only welcome" signs.....pathetic
4  General / Open Discussion / Re: very unhappy camper... on: February 05, 2007, 12:14:36 PM
We are getting f@@@@ with our own tax dollars. Nobody wants this to work, including the famous ONFA.

True. However the Forest Service is laughing all the way to the bank by the sheer volume of tickets they're writing and the outrageous fine amounts. This is all about finding alternate ways to enrich their coffers as their funding from Washington is reduced and we're their sacrificial lambs.They could give a sh*t about protecting the land. Look at all the clear cutting they're doing. They do more damage to the ecosystem with their clear cutting than we do (responsible riders)  with our ATV's.
5  General / Open Discussion / Re: very unhappy camper... on: February 05, 2007, 10:14:56 AM
I heard somebody got stabbed at Mondex this past weekend, that's why the cop's were blocking it off. I drove past there Sunday and there was a cop car parked at the entrance.Since it is private property I would imagine that it will now be permanently closed due to these a**holes knife fight. I'm sure the property owner will probably gety sued. As I continued down 19 I passed the exit to the Delancy Loops Trail where I saw a  fascist forest service ranger harassing a group of dirt bikers who had ventured off the trail. I guess these a**holes must sit in the woods off the trails looking to nab you. All up and down 19 you can see signs posted closing off trails. You try to do the right thing and ride the wooped out/lame/inadequate/dangerous one-way trails they set aside for you and they still harass you. It's all about $$$$. At Rodman you have to go through a "gauntlet" of these fascist rangers just to get on the trails. They are not there to make you feel welcome. Our tax dollars at work.
6  General / Where to Ride? / Re: Can you ride ONF at night? on: January 16, 2007, 02:31:20 PM
according to http://www.fs.fed.us/r8/florida/recreation/oca-OHV/index_OHV_Rules.shtml
  "OHVs are permitted to operate 1 1/2 hour before sunrise to 1 1/2 hour after sunset" They also state that it's illegal to take a dump in the woods "(p) Depositing any body waste except
into receptales provided for that purpose." They also state that you can't carry a passenger on an ATV unless it was built specifically to carry one. So basically if they want to screw with you they can, and it'll cost you. I was at Big Scrub 2 weekends ago and they were writing a guy a $525 ticket for riding through a big puddle that was in the middle of the power line right of way. This was a mud/sand puddle from a rain shower not an existing wetland, in a week it'll be dry sand. anyways, we (4 atv's)were sitting off to the right of the powerlines at the edge of the trail taking a break and 2 rangers pull up to us and ask "who has the money? where'd you get those atv's dirty? if it was in that puddle it'll cost each of you $525". WTF??? I asked them to give me a statute# where the law states you cannot ride through a puddle that's in a throughway (not a wetland) and I threw in some legal mumbo jumbo along with my questions.The ranger hemmed and hawed that if they wrote atv'ers up for riding in puddles on the powerline then that would teach us not to do it in the woods. That was their justification.Unbeleivable. I'm all for measured preservation of the ecosystem but the crap they are pulling surely can't be legal?
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