The problem is not with the original post. All of the anger and frustration is because allot of BS has been going on out there lately. Camps tore up, gate tore done, people threatening land owners at the gate who do not let them in, roads tore up, exc, exc. There would not be a problem if people would come with a land owner. The reality is that there are allot of A holes in the world and they read about SE and then try to break in or sneak in. Then they tear it up. If it continues the way that it is going now we will loose that land to ride on also.

The bottom line is if you are not with a land owner do not go. If you are a land owner respect the property. Don't tear up the roads. Don’t leave trash every ware. And respect the other people out there. If you are caught coming in without a land owner you will be trespassed the first time and arrested every other time you are caught. Also just having a key is not going to cut it soon. The keys are starting to get matched up with the deed owner and ID's are being checked.

Sorry for the long rant. Had to get it out of my system.

There are thousands of land owners in SE which makes it very hard and expensive to change the key out.

There are allot of very nice camps at SE not all of them are trashed. If you are smart and make some friends for the most part your camp does not get messed with. Obviously there are some exceptions.

Thing are starting to change so in other words if you are not a land owner or with a land owner DO NOT GO.

As I understand it they started trespassing people last weekend. The land owners at holopaw have had enough and are now watching the gate and getting the sheriff involved.