[What area/s do we the people feel would benefit from the clean up the most?]

hey chuck or anyone who can help!
I know you don't me and I am new to this site, but I have a few ideas about your/our or the clean up efforts for the ONF.
I called in a card of mine today and left a message with a friend of mine in Tall.
Maybe he can help us get a clean up effort in motion,

What area/s do we the people feel would benefit from the clean up the most?

How many people do we feel might show up to help?

What week-end( give a few) dates, would be good?

Who would be best to represent our group if a meeting, phone, letter needed to be given out for contact? (I see a lot of Mr. Bones?  ) But again I am new and need some help here from anyone?
And what problems have been the most predominate  to hinder the clean up efforts in the past?

Please help, so I can give the most accurate information as possible.
Lee

can anyone tell me where this locationis and is, and is  it worth the drive from St. Pete?
Lee

let me know when it is, and I'll bring 7 to  9 more riders also with me,
sounds great!
Lee

[IT'S WORTH A TRY, I LOVE ONF AND I DON'T WANT TO LOSE THE AREAS TO RIDE IN.]

And yes what they want to do is already in the works, but MAYBE we can stop or come up with a solution, that all parties will be happy with.
IT'S WORTH A TRY, I LOVE ONF AND I DON'T WANT TO LOSE THE AREAS TO RIDE IN.

I have myself and also seen others tell people, stop that , usually it works, but then you come back in  a while and they are doing it again.  So
as much as I hate a tattle tail, I have to say call the officials and report.
In doing so, it again bring negative attention, where negative attention needs not be!
Ride responsible, safe, in the areas we know are okay to be in.
Every one do a little research, and let's try to come up with a/some solution/s and present it them.  What can it hurt?
Maybe they will give us some areas like Croom and they would will be happy and so would we???  Let's not give up!

[what are the legal areas to ride]

I agree that there is confusion on what are the legal areas to ride and what are not.  
I myself have not come across any rude police or rangers.
I agree also,  as to what the officials deal with on an every day or week end basis.
I have stopped many time to help someone injured, due to what ever!
I've been thanked and some of the rangers look for me or my car and tell me that there is a "person" riding fast, stupid and not safe, to keep an eye out for them in case they do get hurt.  So again here they are try to do whats best.

I also agree attitude has a lot to do with it, also with some of the officials out there, other moral issue factor in also.  This is sad when this happens, but, again they have the upper hand at that point and all one can do is be polite, and deal with those issues on a legal level.
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I agree...................... some, but not all can be an  .

I don't know why they give you dirty looks, maybe one day when we meet, we can all ride together, they all have been nice to me and my family.

Don't give up on the forest and the trash, though, all of us need to help.

          Thank you for all the work and trash you have picked up.
                                                         Lee

[its an on going thing]

Spouting is not the subject here!
Spouting was about the racing, and not the trash!

So slap my hand another time,
as far as " a",  or "few" clean ups missions, its an on going thing.  We all need to do our share, and not point fingers!
As long as there are people in the area, and trash being left behind, the job STILL has to be done again.
Every time my family and I are out there, we bring in 2-3 large trash bags back out.  I certainly don't put that trash there!  Nor am I sitting and typing just words, about problems, WE ALL HAVE, AND WILL HAVE, as riders in the ONF.

As far as the city of Ocala, yes they do have a say, as how much of a say, only they know.  I did not make a statement that they are the only ones. All the agencies mention, plus a few others,  DO have a say in the actions that are taken, it called Politics, Revenue, and laws.  They want to preserve the wood land, or so they say, we don't need to give them more to complain about!

Instead of putting all the negative over tones and energy  into your notes,
try putting the energy into a solution.
Rome was not built in ONE day!
To lose something only takes a second, I don't want to see the ONF riding areas to be taken away.

As far as looking in the past I was born and raised in the area, and have seen the changes over the years.  I am  sure it's hard trying to get any state agency to do anything, but we as riders need not give up, but come together and try to make a change, STRENGHT COMES IN NUMBERS!

The spouting is stop doing wrong, and giving them more to complain about!

chuch,
my thought exactly, why don't we put something together
doc

[clean up ride]

sorry if I come off strong,
I just love spending, clean, healthy time with my son and hate to see a beautiful thing get lost, because of a few jerks.

There are a lot of issues on the plate of the city of Ocala,  we as riders need to address the ones we can. This also will help us try to keep our options open with the Forestry department.
Every one knows it only takes a few to make it tough on the rest.

All I am trying to say is lets do our part in keeping things right, so things don't get worse.

If anyone has suggestions..............................


I think a clean up ride would be a great thing for everyone, maybe a different part of the forest each week-end. 
The park would be grateful, the ride would be nice, and I know the environment would love us!

Heavens we might make friends with the officials!

[id,]

Well ,   
id,  the lairs, as you called it is the City of Ocala, Wildlife and game office, and the Sheriff's office.  That is the discussion going on as we speak. 

As we all know on Memorial day 2005, tickets were given out and bikes even taken over by the Big Scrub area, restrictions on certain riding areas were implicated.
If we don't stand up and talk with these agencies, all of our riding areas will soon be gone.  I feel the same way, about the night activities and trash dumping by bigger vehicle.
Who out there has seen a AVT or a dirt bike with a frig, stove, washer or dryer tied down, riding though the woods to dump. LOL   But if we don't speak up, we all loose in the long run.

As far as Friday nights out at the rodham dam area, If you know somethings going on out there, call and report it!  Because if you don't, what will happen, is what happening!    The bike and ATVs riders are being blamed, and our sections of permitted areas to ride will be limited, if not eliminated.

We as rider's, no matter what type of vehicle/s should stand up and take charge.  If the majority of people are not doing wrong, then let's let them know.  If the forestry department see we are picking up these areas, and taking care of the woods, maybe they will have a change of heart.   It can't hurt?

For all the stupid jerks, that do wrong, time will tell.  Word has it that, if you are caught racing on that road past the green signs, your bikes will be gone for ever and jail time! Which I feel is justifiable.

 

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People lets get real here! 
There are so little places to ride as it is now in the state of Florida.
To the racers that were racing this week end (11-25&26/05) in the Rodham Dam area, ON THE ROAD FROM THE DAM DOWN TO THE END!
The local sheriffs department will be out there on the week-ends, you nor I will know who they are!  IF YOU GET CAUGHT, You will be taken you to jail, and your bike's/quads taken.  IS IT WORTH IT?
You jerks are wrecking this for every one out there just trying to have a good time.  I was informed this week end that the Ocala Forestry will be closing a lot of the riding areas because of issues just like this, and people not staying off the number roads.
Why can't you guys just ride and have fun, with out ruining it for all the others?
GROW UP AND LET KEEP OUR RIDING AREAS.

ALSO WE NEED TO KEEP THE TRASH PICKED UP. WHAT GOES IN WITH US, COMES OUT WITH US.  This is another issue the forestry has with the atv's, so lets not give them a reason to keep us out, but give them a reason to let us stay and play.