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Title: What would take to make quads street legal? Obviously an act of congress.
Post by: Pastense on November 29, 2005, 09:36:56 PM
Seriously though,

What would it take to allow four wheelers on the road.  What did they do in Arizona?  Anyone else interested in this one?



Title: Re: What would take to make quads street legal? Obviously an act of congress.
Post by: Quad32x on November 29, 2005, 09:39:27 PM
Dont  know  but  that  would  be  fun ! ;) ;D


Title: Re: What would take to make quads street legal? Obviously an act of congress.
Post by: Kawa3 on November 29, 2005, 09:52:12 PM
theres quite a few states where it is legal to ride on the roads with quads


Title: Re: What would take to make quads street legal? Obviously an act of congress.
Post by: Bigscrb15 on November 29, 2005, 09:58:51 PM
It would take an ammendment of Florida Law. Most likely won't happen, and honestly does not need to happen. There are too many stupid and irresponsible people out there.


Title: Re: What would take to make quads street legal? Obviously an act of congress.
Post by: themensh on November 29, 2005, 10:13:31 PM
"There are too many stupid and irresponsible people out there."

   Heck, there are those people..and most don't ride quads!
  I don't know what keeps quads from being street legal, actually.
The media would be no help....that is for sure.
  I did see once, in Daytona, a Honda Goldwing (I think it was an 1100 CC)
that had the front end of a quad attached to the motorcycle...making it a three-wheeler.
  I guess you could make a 'custom bike'..take the title from the 'loaner' bike and register the custom?  Like......take a Goldwing engine, put it in  the quad..and use the goldwings title?     In Florida, that might just work! LOL

                 Chuck


Title: Re: What would take to make quads street legal? Obviously an act of congress.
Post by: Chillinthemost on November 29, 2005, 10:23:28 PM
We are barely allowed to ride off the road, there is no way they will let us ride on the road.


Title: Re: What would take to make quads street legal? Obviously an act of congress.
Post by: Ida_Mann on November 29, 2005, 10:30:38 PM
it would take an ammendment to the FL Statutes because of the way the current law is worded it specifically bans quads,,,,,something like anything under 900 pounds with handlebars meant to steer and a seat meant to be straddled.

sounds like a quad to me ;-)

but I sure wouldn't mind being able to hop on the quad and run to 7-11 or something every now and then.

anyone know what states it IS legal to ride on the road with them?

I'd like to travel to one of the states, license my quad in that state,,,,then the state of FL would not have much choice but to recognize the license tag,,,,would sure make it easier to drive around in Ocala when I get lost on the clay roads ;-)

Id@


Title: Re: What would take to make quads street legal? Obviously an act of congress.
Post by: Bigscrb15 on November 29, 2005, 11:00:44 PM
You can tag and make a quad street legal if you change it to have only 1 rear wheel or 1 front wheel.


Title: Re: What would take to make quads street legal? Obviously an act of congress.
Post by: Pastense on November 30, 2005, 11:31:04 AM
Anybody know the FL DOT statute off the top of their head?


Title: Re: What would take to make quads street legal? Obviously an act of congress.
Post by: Bigscrb15 on November 30, 2005, 11:46:24 AM
Off the top of my head, this is the best I could type up.  ;)
_______________________________________________________

Section 316.2074
F.S. All-terrain vehicles
(1) It is the intent of the Legislature through the adoption of this section to provide safety protection for minors while operating an all-terrain vehicle in this state.

(2) As used in this section, the term "all-terrain vehicle" means any motorized off-highway vehicle 50 inches or less in width, having a dry weight of 900 pounds or less, designed to travel on three or more low-pressure tires, having a seat designed to be straddled by the operator and handlebars for steering control, and intended for use by a single operator with no passenger.

(3) No person under 16 years of age shall operate, ride, or be otherwise propelled on an all-terrain vehicle unless the person wears a safety helmet meeting United States Department of Transportation standards and eye protection.

(4) If a crash results in the death of any person or in the injury of any person which results in treatment of the person by a physician, the operator of each all-terrain vehicle involved in the crash shall give notice of the crash pursuant to s. 316.066.

(5) Except as provided in this section, an all-terrain vehicle may not be operated upon the public roads, streets, or highways of this state, except as otherwise permitted by the managing state or federal agency.

(6) An all-terrain vehicle having four wheels may be used by police officers on public beaches designated as public roadways for the purpose of enforcing the traffic laws of the state. All-terrain vehicles may also be used by the police to travel on public roadways within 5 miles of beach access only when getting to and from the beach.

(7) An all-terrain vehicle having four wheels may be used by law enforcement officers on public roads within public lands while in the course and scope of their duties.

(8 ) A violation of this section is a non-criminal traffic infraction, punishable as a non-moving violation as provided in chapter 318.
 
Prohibited Uses
Section 810.12, F.S. UNAuthorized entry on land; prima facie evidence of trespass
(1) The unauthorized entry by any person into or upon any enclosed and posted land shall be prima facie evidence of the intention of such person to commit an act of trespass. (2) The act of entry upon enclosed and posted land without permission of the owner of said land by any worker, servant, employee, or agent while actually engaged in the performance of his or her work or duties incident to such employment and while under the supervision or direction, or through the procurement, of any other person acting as supervisor, foreman, employer, or principal, or in any other capacity, shall be prima facie evidence of the causing, and of the procurement, of such act by the supervisor, foreman, employer, principal, or other person. (3) The act committed by any person or persons of taking, transporting, operating, or driving, or the act of permitting or consenting to the taking or transporting of, any machine, tool, motor vehicle, or draft animal into or upon any enclosed and posted land without the permission of the owner of said land by any person who is not the owner of such machine, tool, vehicle, or animal, but with the knowledge or consent of the owner of such machine, tool, vehicle, or animal, or of the person then having the right to possession thereof, shall be prima facie evidence of the intent of such owner of such machine, tool, vehicle, or animal, or of the person then entitled to the possession thereof, to cause or procure an act of trespass.

Section 810.115, F.S. breaking or injuring fences
Whoever willfully and maliciously breaks down, mars, injures, defaces, cuts, or otherwise creates or causes to be created an opening, gap, interruption, or break in any fence, or any part thereof, belonging to or enclosing land not his or her own, or whoever causes to be broken down, marred, injured, defaced, or cut any fence belonging to or enclosing land not his or her own, commits a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083, and the court may require full compensation to the owner of the fence for any and all damages or losses resulting directly or indirectly from the act or commission pursuant to s. 775.089.


Section 375.314, F.S. Damage to Public lands

Whoever damages public lands by the use of a motor vehicle is guilty of a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.083 or s. 775.083 or by restitution. For the purpose of this section, damage shall include, but is not limited to, injury to or destruction of trees, flora, sand dunes or other environmentally sensitive land, roads, trails, drainage systems or natural water courses or sources, wildlife resources, fences or gates, or crops or cultivated land.
 
Section 806.13, F.S Criminal mischief

A person commits the offense of criminal mischief if he or she willfully and maliciously injures or damages by any means any real or personal property belonging to another, including, but not limited to, the placement of graffiti thereon or other acts of vandalism thereto.
 
Section 317.0002, F.S. off-highway vehicle titling

Florida Statutes, states: "It is the intent of the Legislature that all off-highway vehicles purchased after the effective date of the "Florida Off-Highway Vehicle Titling Act" (July 1, 2002) and all off-highway vehicles operated on public lands be titled to allow for easy determination of ownership. " 


Title: Re: What would take to make quads street legal? Obviously an act of congress.
Post by: themensh on November 30, 2005, 05:42:50 PM
>>something like anything under 900 pounds with handlebars meant to steer and a seat meant to be straddled.<<

So....a steering wheel and bench seat works for them  (Go John Deere GATORS!)


>>(2) As used in this section, the term "all-terrain vehicle" means any motorized off-highway vehicle 50 inches or less in width, having a dry weight of 900 pounds or less, designed to travel on three or more low-pressure tires, having a seat designed to be straddled by the operator and handlebars for steering control, and intended for use by a single operator with no passenger. <<

  55.5 " would be OK then?  High pressures tires OK.........What is wrong with a seat we 'strattle'?  (An All terrain vehicle for two passengers (don't the manufacturers make them now?)

  These seem to be the laws........though I don't know the reason
behind them.  Laws have been changed before.  I don't see these being changed any time soon.   The reasons are obviously slanted.
   Should I mention......write to our Florida representatives and ask why?

   Chuck



Title: Re: What would take to make quads street legal? Obviously an act of congress.
Post by: 1FasterBlaster on November 30, 2005, 09:38:14 PM
That was pretty dam good off the top of your head!!


Title: Re: What would take to make quads street legal? Obviously an act of congress.
Post by: themensh on November 30, 2005, 09:58:41 PM
like I mentioned before...I bet you could put a Gold wing engine on a quad and register it as a gold wing.......
  case in point:
  Take two "two by fours" (wood sticks).  Connect them between a Volkswagon engine and a front end from a Ford Pinto.  Add a Bass boat seat with two pieces of rope to steer the front wheels. One head light, two tail lights and a cup holder.  What do you have?   In Florida?   Yep......a MOTOR VEHICLE.
  If an ATV is not road worthy...there has to be a reason.  If there is a reason, there has to be a way to make them road worthy?
  If you have seen some of the 'road worthy 25 mph scooters' on the road lately........I have got to say my ATV out "road worthiness"  them!
    Back in 1989 (I am old) I owned a "Meyers Tow'd" VW powered dune buggy (produced by the same people that made the Meyers MANX for you VW people out there).
  It was registered as a "home made vehicle' in Florida.  I figure the same could be done with a quad?
    HEY! Be the first on YOUR BLOCK!!!!!

     Chuck


Title: Re: What would take to make quads street legal? Obviously an act of congress.
Post by: gery350 on November 30, 2005, 11:08:46 PM
an act of congress..............
more like an act of god. ;D


Title: Re: What would take to make quads street legal? Obviously an act of congress.
Post by: yunt2ride on December 01, 2005, 09:12:21 AM
Soumds like you could make a polaris ranger or yamaha rhino street legal. Just need to put different tires on it would be my guess. Lets all get rid of our quads and go to those types of vehicles.