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Title: Is it legal?
Post by: NP04Foreman on October 03, 2005, 10:05:39 PM
Would it be legal for me to do a fund raiser to raise money to get my fourwheeler fixed? or if i raised money as a Katrina Disaster fund and kept like 20% of whatever i raise? I really need money and nobody wants to buy my bicycle :(... i need my fourwheeler back :'( i cant just sit here and watch everyone ride without me


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: Nightbreed on October 03, 2005, 10:08:55 PM
I dont think doing a Katrina fundraiser for your quad would be a good idea.  ;)

But coming up with a good idea to raise money to fix your quad is not a bad idea at all!


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: bigscrub79 on October 03, 2005, 10:10:15 PM
Go out and mow lawns, do whatever and earn the money.


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: Nightbreed on October 03, 2005, 10:11:46 PM
Go out and mow lawns, do whatever and earn the money.

There is one good idea already !  ;)


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: RL400 on October 03, 2005, 10:12:55 PM
Not a good idea, but according to your profile, you're 15.  One word:
Publix.

rl.


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: NP04Foreman on October 03, 2005, 10:18:02 PM
I have a job with my girlfriends dad and i get $7 an hour but i only work like 3 hours a  day and 3-5 days a week depends on what he wants.... its not enough money and i do mow lawns with my friend on the side but that doesnt get me anywhere... if i sold my bike i'd have enough for sure


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: DRWalum on October 03, 2005, 10:20:40 PM
GET A LIFE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

   Sell the computer your on , steal from your parents .........  Ect.  >:D >:D

  How could you be so STUPID as to think of keeping $$$$ from a disaster fund  ::)  ::)

   If by chance you do it , let me know what intersection you're @ and I'll make sure to drive by  :cursing.gif  :cursing.gif  :cursing.gif


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: RL400 on October 03, 2005, 10:24:07 PM
GET A LIFE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

   Sell the computer your on , steal from your parents .........  Ect.  >:D >:D

  How could you be so STUPID as to think of keeping $$$$ from a disaster fund  ::)  ::)

   If by chance you do it , let me know what intersection you're @ and I'll make sure to drive by  :cursing.gif  :cursing.gif  :cursing.gif
calm down, its gunna be ok!

rl.


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: NP04Foreman on October 03, 2005, 10:30:25 PM
I was being serious i wanted to raise money for the disaster fund because i feel bad for the people but i need some money too.... they'll get 80%


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: Moose on October 03, 2005, 10:43:49 PM
You may not like this, but




Do it the old fashioned way,

Earn it.


You'll be a better person for it.


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: RL400 on October 03, 2005, 10:54:16 PM
You may not like this, but




Do it the old fashioned way,

Earn it.


You'll be a better person for it.

yes,  dont take money from a disaster fund raiser type thing.
if you want to help so bad, get a job at publix and for every $10 you make give the red cross $2 or something.

glhf,

rl.


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: Sandmountainspeedway.com on October 03, 2005, 11:09:52 PM
you want to be part of the racing scene go to www.sandmountainspeedway.com we always need flagers on the MX or TT track go to contacts someone will help you. Our season is just starting we will need help.


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: Shotgun on October 04, 2005, 12:42:15 AM
You will have to earn it bubba. Shortcuts will lead you to jail for sure. It sucks, but we all have done it. You will have to earn it, and you can't start at the top. I hope you do well!


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: Ida_Mann on October 04, 2005, 05:37:00 AM
yeah dude, bad idea to start with the Katrina relief stuff.

what is it that needs fixin on the quad? how much cash are you looking to raise to fix it?

that might be a better place to start,,,,then maybe we can come up with some better ideas.

Id@


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: NP04Foreman on October 04, 2005, 06:51:17 AM
Well I need a little over $300.


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: big-daddy on October 04, 2005, 07:11:06 AM
whats wrong with the quad?


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: Ida_Mann on October 04, 2005, 07:16:28 AM
allrighty, at 15 years old there aint much options, but that job with your girlfriend's dad sounds like a good place to start.

and at the rate that you are earning there (assuming no taxes taken out) you would make up the cash you need in under a month.

I can tell you right now that a lot of people on this site make tons more cash than that, and it probably would take a lot of them about the same amount of time to save that much extra(I know it would me), so hang tough, save money and get it fixed.

You will appreciate the quad so much more, and treat it better after you spent that much time into it for sure.

good luck, and let us know how it goes.

Id@


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: FOREMANRON on October 04, 2005, 07:30:53 AM
MCDONALDS, BURGER KING, CHECKERS, WENDYS, TACO BELL


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: NP04Foreman on October 04, 2005, 07:32:46 AM
My fourwheeler has many problems... it needs a new valve job... i need to redo the whole top end... new pistons and rings and gaskets etc..


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: ish on October 04, 2005, 07:38:27 AM
Here's an idea work hard and save up some money, buy the work manual for your bike and try and do the work yourself. you will save some money you will learn how to fix your own bike and you won't be scamming the katrina fund. its a win win situation.


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: TRX350_On_The_Rack on October 04, 2005, 08:05:46 AM
15yr old. Try being a Bus Boy or ask the person who owns the shop your bike will be at if you can work it off. Sweep the floors or something. There's plenty of money out there you just have to look, just try to keep away from profiting off Disasters. Bad idea, really bad idea  :no


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: NP04Foreman on October 04, 2005, 08:08:15 AM
I'm sorry to upset you all I was tryingto help out and get some stuff out of it... but ya'll are right.... I just went on highlifter and I'm just going to order the manual and performance parts. If I can sell my bike then I can get all the stuff that I want.


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: yunt2ride on October 04, 2005, 09:20:28 AM
Ask your girlfriends dad to let you work every day. tell him what you are trying to do to your quad so maybe he will find more work for you. Buy parts a little at a time instead of trying to save and when you get all your parts, put it together. Sometimes when you try and save money you end up spending it on things that you don't need. Thats why I say but parts as you get the money. He may even offer to help you out to fix your quad but if he does then you need to live up to your end of any agreements you two have together.


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: BonesTM on October 04, 2005, 10:26:07 AM
Bud.... negative on the Katrina scam .. but there is one why to make money and get rid of stuff you don't need.

ONE WORD.........  "EBAY"  borrow a digital camera if you don't have one and sell stuff you don't need. Like an online garrage sale. Works for me.


Just my 2¢


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: GSPKurt on October 04, 2005, 10:34:41 AM
Ask your girlfriends dad to let you work every day. tell him what you are trying to do to your quad so maybe he will find more work for you. Buy parts a little at a time instead of trying to save and when you get all your parts, put it together. Sometimes when you try and save money you end up spending it on things that you don't need. Thats why I say but parts as you get the money. He may even offer to help you out to fix your quad but if he does then you need to live up to your end of any agreements you two have together.

All good suggestions.

Yunt's got a great idea. Explain your problem to the guy and see what he says.

Also, BonesTM has another great idea. People on eBay will buy ANYTHING!!


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: mikeE36 on October 04, 2005, 12:08:15 PM
look man, I talk to you on instant messenger and your a cool guy. But doing this is wrong. Right now I dont have a job and my life savings is 10.00 and I still manage to get enough gas to go back and forth to school. See if you can make a deal with your parents like if you do good in school mabey they can help you out.

Good luck.


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: jwscroll on October 04, 2005, 12:09:59 PM
I have to agree with not doing a Kat/Quad fundraiser. People that donated would get mighty upset when they found out you kept 20%, and if you tell them up front they won't donate. I would suggest going to work for everyone thats willing to pay you. Buy your parts as you earn the cash that way you don't spend it on something you don't really need.


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: FORD4X4GIRL on October 04, 2005, 12:27:40 PM
You may not like this, but




Do it the old fashioned way,

Earn it.


You'll be a better person for it.

yes,  dont take money from a disaster fund raiser type thing.
if you want to help so bad, get a job at publix and for every $10 you make give the red cross $2 or something.

glhf,

rl.

For someone to even fathom taking money that people donate because they feel bad for those affected by Katrina/ Rita is just WRONG..... For those of us affected by anyone of the four hurricanes last year we all know how hard it was to recover from that.... Whats so hard about getting a job at Publix or Winn Dixie or somewhere.... Babysit if you have to or do chores around the house & then ask your parents for the money .....


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: Thrasher on October 04, 2005, 12:33:34 PM
i can't believe i am actually reading this post...and u would even suggest an idea for such a thing....for a quad no less, mines broke too, and i have not come up with such an absurd idea...it's broke, and i need to WORK and EARN my money to fix it.....not look for a handout at other peoples expense.....it'll just fall in line with many of the katrina SCAMS going on and lots of folks getting arrested for it....wanna join them?

wheres yer sense of morals?


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: TRX350_On_The_Rack on October 04, 2005, 12:41:46 PM
Yeah, what are you thinking. You keep 80% and give 20% to the victims.


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: xtremeraptor on October 04, 2005, 02:13:03 PM
get a job and save like everyone else does....................the whole fundraiser is a bad idea


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: gery350 on October 04, 2005, 04:48:01 PM
Yeah, what are you thinking. You keep 80% and give 20% to the victims.

dude thats funny! you get a "+" for that.


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: JustC1582 on October 05, 2005, 03:58:32 AM
There are some useful ideas on here, LISTEN to some of them.

Taking money from people who want to help hurricane victims & putting it in your pocket is pathetic, fraud, illegal, etc...


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: jwscroll on October 05, 2005, 06:05:00 AM
These cats that are gettin all excited are funny. The kid was asking for advice, not critisism for a bad idea. I'm sure he's not the only one that has thought of it, at least the kid was willing to donate and do the work. I know it sounds wrong but most charities DO keep part of the donations they recieve to take care of overhead costs, some charitable organizations KEEP a majority of the donations and only donate 20-40% to people that need it. Be careful who you donate to, do your homework or they'll get your money and run.


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: NP04Foreman on October 05, 2005, 06:52:49 AM
GEEZE I TOLD YOU ALL I WAS SORRY FOR MAKING SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND ALL OF YOU ARE GETTING WORKED UP.I AM PUTTING IT ON EBAY AND ON HERE... EVERYONE JUST NEEDS TO CALM DOWN! >:(


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: FORD4X4GIRL on October 05, 2005, 10:21:19 AM
Yeah, what are you thinking. You keep 80% and give 20% to the victims.

You should not be incouraging this type of activity !!!  >:D


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: TRX350_On_The_Rack on October 05, 2005, 10:30:43 AM
Just trying to help the kid out and get 50% of the profit  :d


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: enniehall on October 05, 2005, 10:33:34 AM
I think we may have a little con man on our hands.  You know as well as we do creating a fund raiser for the hurricane victims and keeping 20% of the monies raised is wrong or you wouldn't be asking.  I understand the situation your in it's not that easy to get a job you can work more hours at due to the child labor laws.  I think if your only 15 you can only work like 16 hours a week or something.  Just do as many side jobs as you can.  Walk dogs, cut lawns, wash cars...or 4-wheelers, do anything you possibly can.  


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: SkyHighT100 on October 05, 2005, 10:42:44 AM
Most of you know... my quad has been down for a year (as of October 23rd). Yeah it kills and yes it would be nice to for once get a bit of help when it comes money, lol. Unfortunately, fund raisers really arent the way to go. And charities like what you were talking about are just plain absurd and it is truely disappointing to know you even thought of that! Charities are set up for a specific purpose and they are non-profit (meaning the collectors do not see a dime of that money). No one would want to donate to a cause knowing that at the same time they are feeding your pocket. For now, stick with washing cars, mowing lawns, doing errands, etc to get the money... it'll come eventually. I have another 3000-4000 to save up... so it's going to be at least another 4-6 months before I can even think about getting back on my quad... we're all in the same boat... we're middle class americans.... the ones who always have to worry about where the money they make is going and how to acquire what they need.


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: enniehall on October 05, 2005, 11:31:37 AM
Wow  :O I don't know if I could handle a year, mine has been down since the begining of Sep I had an oil leak and then the rear end blew out (need about a grand if i want to fix it right) and I feel like pulling my hair out it is so hard not to take my truck out just to get a quick fix of that sweet temptress mud...ummm mud.  SkyHigh your building yours from the frame up right?  How’s the progress?


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: SkyHighT100 on October 05, 2005, 12:00:43 PM
Trust me Ennie, it has been a LONG year. It's getting even longer now because the quad is a roller... so i can sit on it and pretend, lmao. Basically everything is together, I just have to save up the money to have my motor redone and get the last few odds and ends. I've got black race cut plastics also... here is a current photo.

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Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: enniehall on October 05, 2005, 03:47:17 PM
looking better all the time SkyHigh


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: americanhighlander on October 05, 2005, 06:52:19 PM
Well if save your money in long run it will be worth it.Thats what i'm doing.

So your not from my area in lake city.Well at least area you live in is good for
side jobs.We have alot farmer type jobs here in this area.I going have a goat farm soon later down road.

Well if your 15years old well try  look in newpapers for  any side jobs.If looking
for tree trim cutting job.All have do is just cut little branchs.Or ask   your dad if paids you to do yard or take out trash or clean up yard or do yard trash for clean up.


Well don't  do  :no  hurrcaine Katrina dontate money thing.And Alot that
crap is cracking down with fbi.I have heard it the other night on cnn with aaron brown.So if wanna donate money at church or any food store that will be my best bet.

I know alot people posting in here and I do agree  :ThumbsUp.gif with atvflorida members in here about don't setup your own hurricane katrina donating fund.And they are  right about it. ;D


thanks,
amhighlander  8)


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: Honda328i on October 09, 2005, 10:55:16 PM
We have plenty of lawyers ("For the people")  :d and politicians to scam people out of hard earned money, no need for you to jump to the dark side, but I think you figured that out by now.  :)

Here's another idea, get yourself a set of numbered stencils and a can of spray paint and offer to paint people's house numbers on their curb on a black background.  Tell them that it makes it easier for the fire/rescue/police to respond to calls faster in finding their homes.  Most people will give you $5 or $10 to do it.  Just beware of some homeowner's associations in the ritzy neighborhoods, best to get permission first.  Good luck.


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: themensh on October 24, 2005, 08:01:02 PM
  How many people in your neighborhood?  How many have water meters?
  Go door to door with a hand trowel (or small scoop).  Tell each person you are raising money to help your hobby.  Offer to scoop dirt from each water meter box and tell them you will also check to to see if  there is in the box.
 .75 cents for a couple minutes is not bad..and most people (like me) remember what it was like to try and raise money as a youngster.
   Don't 'hide' behind disater relief to gouge money......not very honest at the least.
  Cleaning meter boxes, unlike mowing lawns, you need very little equipment and probably very little competition....a can of bug spray to
kill ants/roaches in the box might be the clincher to the deal.
  Hey....it's an idea    (I heard of a kid that had a dog 'poop scooping company')......the idea is to make money.



           Chuck
   


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: trx#9 on October 24, 2005, 09:09:51 PM
I think the boy had a good idea its legal. You know that up to 50% of donation money never makes it to the sorce, they take there cut first sometimes its that high. You know those fire fighters that call asking for donations, there not fire fighters there telemarketers and they take up to 50% legally. I know this because my friend owns one of these businesses. I don't agree buts its legal. Thats why I only donate goods or money personally. He's to young though, maybe get a beer stand like on the man show.  ::)


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: LakeMaryKid on October 24, 2005, 10:19:25 PM
We have plenty of lawyers ("For the people")  :d and politicians to scam people out of hard earned money, no need for you to jump to the dark side, but I think you figured that out by now.  :)

Here's another idea, get yourself a set of numbered stencils and a can of spray paint and offer to paint people's house numbers on their curb on a black background.  Tell them that it makes it easier for the fire/rescue/police to respond to calls faster in finding their homes.  Most people will give you $5 or $10 to do it.  Just beware of some homeowner's associations in the ritzy neighborhoods, best to get permission first.  Good luck.

haha way to carry over ideas from our very first "ATVFLORIDA MOVIE VIEWING" :P


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: Honda328i on October 24, 2005, 10:54:24 PM
We have plenty of lawyers ("For the people")  :d and politicians to scam people out of hard earned money, no need for you to jump to the dark side, but I think you figured that out by now.  :)

Here's another idea, get yourself a set of numbered stencils and a can of spray paint and offer to paint people's house numbers on their curb on a black background.  Tell them that it makes it easier for the fire/rescue/police to respond to calls faster in finding their homes.  Most people will give you $5 or $10 to do it.  Just beware of some homeowner's associations in the ritzy neighborhoods, best to get permission first.  Good luck.

haha way to carry over ideas from our very first "ATVFLORIDA MOVIE VIEWING" :P

Sharp memory there Curtis  :bow.gif


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: The hyrbid kid on October 24, 2005, 11:01:53 PM
u know idk you or your situation.
but.
i always hear about how awsome atp is mabe they could do a payment plan with u or somthing..
idk just a option.


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: jwscroll on October 25, 2005, 05:08:46 AM
It's hard to give someone credit when you know they don't have any income. You could ask ATP for some asistance but I wouldn't expect alot cause they gotta make money to live on and to feed their growing family. Get yourself an honest job that pays over the table(it's easier to get your money if your being payed over the table), seeing that your a little young you might have to work on the sly. Which means under the table(no taxes).
The kid was only following the example of a lot of "not for profit" groups. 40-80% of donations made go to the company soliciting the donation to pay for things like overhead, salaries, and maintain vehicles.


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: cd4mud on October 25, 2005, 03:16:53 PM
rake some leaves up, then at night go throw them in some yards. then the next day go ask you you can rake there leaves for money. repete often. >:D



just kidding if you make a dollar, save $0.50 of it for the atv relief fund  ;D


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: themensh on October 25, 2005, 05:24:23 PM
OK....pretty much, if you have to ask if it is illegal...you may already know the answer. 
   Collecting money for one purpose and the using it for another...is at best:
fraud.
  Telemarketers that collect money and keep a little (or allot) and call it OVERHEAD.....is not fraud.  I don't donate to telemarketers either.
   So make up some business cards that say :"Mom told me to get a job so here I am lawn care."  OR: "Dad told me to stay out of trouble so here I am
car wash."

   Drag a lawnmower door too door or Tote a hose and a bucket with sponge/soap/etc....door to door.  HECK....leaves are falling. Have your Mom buy a box of large trash bags.....rake a lawn and sack the leaves for your neighbors.  You may be surprised at the response you get.  People say I have "no cash"?.......you might accept a "two day hold I.O.U."     The end result is you want to make money........not fool or scam anyone......and if you can get some money and keep it all to yourself?    That is the American way!   Yes, you may have to WORK for the cash........but it will be a good  "life" lesson.

         Chuck


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: Roostin300ex on October 25, 2005, 05:26:01 PM
dude  im 15 and had to buy my quad.. i worked at a restaurant for 3 hours a day this summer and made $100 bucks a week.  Also i mowed lawns and made an additional $100-150.  Lawns are easy money pick up some more.  If your willing to wait, aorund Christmas you can easily pick up about $1000 picking up christmas trees for ppl.  blow leaves w/e  dont be a fag and steal from people who really need money...not because your selfish and dont have respect for other people    dude do it right or dont do it


Title: Re: Is it legal?
Post by: grass-catcher on October 25, 2005, 07:46:54 PM
I think the kid was had his heart in the right place brain just wasnt in gear
when fired off his question.When you work for it taking care of stuff will be
important.Dont sell youre stuff if you dont have too.Depending of where
you live at after Wilma there will be a ton of limbs and tree debris as well
as clean up work.Sad to say but looks like plenty of that for a while.A friend
of mine was in dire financial straits before Ivan hit Pensacola.Luckily for him
he had a background in roofing.Guess what he had enough work to keep
himself busy for 2yrs.Moral of the story if you want it bad enought there is
a way get it through hard work and saving.