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Back when Bad Luck Praire was getting closed, I read that they had until October 30th of this year to open a new park in Collier County, to make up for Bad Luck's closing.  Does anyone have any new info on this?

Yeah it's not going to happen.  Surprise, Surprise the government lied to us again.  You know it would not have been that big of a deal if they continued to let us ride out at Bad Luck Priaire until they opened up this supposed ATV Park.  None of the restoration has even taken place in Bad Luck Prairie yet.  Its all been in the South Blocks.  So what the hell was the big rush to kick us out for?  They could have allowed the permits to continue.  What a bunch of crap..... >:(

Blame that A hole Jeb Bush, this pr!ck is behind it all.   

I'm from Naples and I hate the fact I can't ride anywhere.  I love to ride late nights so it's not so hot.  The prarie was so nice because it was away from anyone to complain.  I spent much of my high school life on my bike out there with friends and always random girls.  haha .  Gosh I miss Badluck

Aint that the truth...... 8)

Yes, yes it is. 8)

I also have a bunch of memories while riding there in the past few years, probably not as many as yours, but they were still good times.  It stinks that I'm kinda forgeting them, like they never happened.  :'(

Becareful what you say ...  Now days people take things too serious.   But I must say I feel like running over Jeb Bush with my quad.   LOL

Here is the latest round of CRAP everyone....


http://www.naplesnews.com/npdn/cc_news/article/0,2663,NPDN_22261_4334735,00.html


Bend over and take it with a little arsenic !!

Lets plan a rally. It would have to be at least 100 people to make an impact.

Yup, it's time we go clog up some traffic somewhere.  Looks to me like all the money in our atv taxes is going to the on ramp on gg pkwy.  Oh and the airport road overpass.  What is this... MIAMI?  I'm outta here as soon as I can afford it.  North Carolina or Georgia here I come.

Does anyone know of an area to legally ride at in the naples area?

I spoke with Jim Coletta last week about this. He's the collier county commissioner in that area. I forwarded him along to the rest of the county commission, the naples daily news,  the county manager, and the county attorney the copy of the land agreement between the state and collier county Government. According to Jim, Everything is ready for the 640 acres to open up in the picayune strand forest, However the US fish and Wildlife service is what's holding this up?? Take this for what it's worth. If you want a copy of the agreement, e-mail me  @ lswjth2@yahoo.com and put in Agreement as the subject line. If we do not start holding demonstartions in the downtown collier county offices and start making lots of noise, this will never happen. I am willing to go Downtown and apply for a demonstration permit, starting on everglades blvd and ending at the government center but only if we have enough people, and i mean a couple of hundred or so. I am willing to organize it, but we need people. Any questions, E-mail me. As soon as i here back from Jim, i will post again....Rick

organize it, i will be there with about 40 - 60 people from the keys.

it wouldnt be hard to organize, pick a spot where we can sit on our quads. call some news stations, and gather the people. if someone would cook hot dogs, more people willl come. also, call a reporter in the local are to tell the people about a future rally coming up. the last rally i went to out there was right by the 75 bridge on everglades blvd. there was 500 people. if everyone knows, they will come. im pretty sure it was on everglades. that would be a good spot, lots of room. this could be all it takes to push our success. i need this to happen, for me and my family.

yep thats where they are usaully at, I was at the last one too, wouldnt hurt to come to this one.

let me know what is going on--i'll go--i just want a place to ride where i don't have to first drive 2-3 hours--at least naples in only 1 hour away from cape coral.

maybe picketing at the 75 spot isnt a good idea. it's kinda out of sight out of mind. maybe a more visible spot would be better. im serious about this, and want it to happen.  LSWJTH2, im trying to light a fire under your rear. get it going, my number is 3053936987. nothing happens with talk. if you commit, it will happen, you are forced to do it.  i can get many people in the keys, plus we could get a bunch off this site.  does anyone have ideas on a location?

The best spot would have to be the bridge, thats where the praire is at basically. All the locals live close to it, there is more then enough parking, and I think its legal as long as your on the road. Believe me, if theres enough poeople, the media will get involed, they have been at all the rest of the rallys.

It really is sad that they closed that place down. Is there another entrance in besides H-29?

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There are like 3 or 4 entrances into that general area.  There's Sable Palm road, the scenic route, the normal entrance, and there's one that we call the "Shortcut" that was off of Us41.

The way i used to get in was LOOOONG it was take US-41 to US-29 go through a small town of Copeland, and then a LOOOONG drive through some unpaved roads and swamps. Is this the same way you all take? I dont know if i want to risk going out there though.

i always went down ezerglades blvd sounds a lot easier than your way

I never saw an Everglades Blvd.

Thats because you took the us-41 way. From miami, take the alley to exit 112 or somthing, there is a cracker barrel on the exit. that will put you on CR 951 then go down 5 traffic lights, then turn on the 5th, that should put you on Golden Gate BLVD. Turn right and go alll the way down till you come to a 4 way stop, you will pass over 3 bridges, one pretty close to where you turn from 951 onto GG blvd and two more past a gas station called "E's" It used to be called G's but they sold out.

Once you come to the 4 way, make another right and follow the road till you get to the big bridge that goes over 75. Once you pass over the bridge, you are then in state park area I think. Anyways, badluck is all the way down that road, somwhere along , close to the parking lot is the turn off for the T canal.

You went down Janes Scenic Drive.

Yea everytime we went, we went down that way and back out that way. LOOONG and boring ride...

Actually Janes Scenic Drive is alot faster than coming down Everglades Blvd North of I-75.  The fastest way is going off Miller's Rd on U.S. 41 but you need a lifted 4*4 truck to get around the water holes most of the time and there's lots of sugar sand to get stuck in.  I'm sure the locals know of other ways but those are the 3 ways I know of which is where FWC will catch you coming in.  It's not worth the risk to drive over there anymore.  Man do I miss the best place in Florida to ride.

Really, some of you people have no idea. I could get there from my house. Spen a lot of my middle school/ begging highschool days out there.

Im having seriously having withdrawals. The terrain down south by the Keys just doesnt compare... :-\

I believe the last time I was in Everglades City I overheard one of the locals say that Janes S. was being blocked off so no one could go down it anymore. 

Also why don't we just throw out a date and see what kind of response we get.  Plenty of people here belong to other internet sites with forums on them (floridaatv.com, the Florida jeepers, myspace) we can do some recruiting there and in here, not to mention everyone we know who isn't part of these sites.  I could get 10 dependable people and maybe another 20 on top of that to show up.  I can bring lots of food and cook if you think that will bring more people out.

Does anybody know the next time when they will have a meeting about the land?
I think it would be good if we'd plan it around that time.

Having a demonstration out in the everglades won't make anywhere near the amount of impact a demonstration in the middle of downtown Naples would make.

That's good point right there.  I'm not from that area, so I'm not sure where would be the best spot.  But right at the center of attention would be the best spot.  The news will pick up on a drop of rain, so I'm sure we'd get some publicity.  I think I'd be able to come if something go organized.  Instead of a group ride, it be a group protest, to maybe get back one of the best riding spots in South Florida.

We can lop over into the streets, medians, sidewalks....  I mean, we shouldn't do anything wild, but if a few hundred people make it out there, they aren't going to stop all of us.  I think if we've got ALOT of people, we can just plop anywhere, as long as streets aren't blocked, or we're in people's front yards.

Lets do this!!! Wanna get it right though! Is the goal here to reopen the squares? Also, I think stopping traffic without really realizing you are doing it (if you know what I mean) would make more of an impact. We need a date and a plan. What do you guys suggest???

A date... 2 or 3 months from now would work.  Time for some planning, yet it won't be unbearble summer weather. 
OR!!.... We could plan it for dead middle of summer, to get the poing across that we'll do anything to show we need more riding areas.
As far as blocking streets, you can't forget about ambulances and firetrucks may happen to have an emergency the day we're out there, so at least 1 lane would be left open.  We'll have a barbque in the rest of them!  :P
And I don't know if the Squares will ever get open again, but it maybe it would light a fire under the government to open up some more riding areas like croom.

I say we have a baja style race on quads from naples pier to 5th ave ...
they cant catch all of us.... just a thinkin out loud.
Just imagine... Gettin dropped off , run down the board walk to the beach ( so we don't damage that precious sea oats)  race down to 5th where the enclosed trailers are parked . and its home free ;)

Haha, I'd love to ride on Naples beach.  However I don't like jail.  We need a big field next to a main road..........hmmmmm or we could take up half a parking lot at the mall.  Or maybe the big Publix lot on the corner of 41 and GG Pkwy.  Something needs to happen soon or I'm selling my atv and getting a street bike.

Yeah, there we go, that's a good idea.  If we have enough people, we can even spread out around the town and take up lots of parking spots.  I'm not from the area so I wouldn't know where to do it.

Anybody have a date?  Place?  Lets do this, it's time to make some noise!

What about cambrier park?  We could line up on fifth and use up the whole park.  Only problem is those people won't get it I think it would be better near the government center.  They have the walmart right there and then the other area right across the way.

let me know when all this goin down so i can let everyone know id say the best place would be near the court house walmart , albertsons, block buster that area well let me know ttyl later

Wherever we would all fit while getting the most attention.

well it looks as if there is enough people to get this started. all we need is someone to spit out a date and place. im thinkin in a few weeks or a month, just to get the word spread properly. also, to get this right, we would be protesting to get our already promised 640 acres, right? do we know where these acres are? i'll announce out a date if no one else does. i have the whole keys and some miami behind me.

I think we should make a new thread in the Open Discusion titled Naples Protest or something, and really try and organize it.  We'd need at least a month I think.  1 month would be good.  It'd be good to make flyers and hit up all the forums and really spred the word.  Sometime in March or April, on a Saturday.

do it. all that sounds good. id make it "bad luck, squares, naples rally/protest"

The Picayune state forest will eventually open up  again to ORV use.I have been in contact with Jim Colletta(Collier county commisioner) and with Mike Davis( State Representative)discussing what happening with this. Please understand the 640 acres are a seperate issue then the one for the squares.
As soon as the US fish and Wildlife service approve the ORV plan, there will be 12.7 miles of trails. A blue trail and an orange trail. The staging area will be of Everglades Blvd and 54th St. A maximum capacity of 84 riders at any given time(Unless they add more trails?). You must wear a helmet,20 mph speed limit,one way trails,$50.00 sticker/year.No double riding, Kids can ride as long as they are under direct supervision. You will have to take a course, wash the bikes before and after riding. THere are also 5 alternative sites being considered and one of them is badluck prairie. The phone # to Mike davis office is 239-417-6270


AS far as the 640 acres go, I agree that we should have some kind of demonstartion. THe SFWMD has been dragging their feet on this. They have proposed a "park" using the sludge they remove from  Lake Trafford in Imokkalee, the problem with this is they have found dangerous chemicals in that muck.

I will call the collier county government this week and find out what you need to hold a protest. The people responsible for the hold up are the SFWMD we need to protest in front of thier office...Rick

I don't think most people would like that.  We don't want to go riding at an amusement park, wait in line, get a hand stamp, be lead through boring trails at 20 mph... No no no.  We need wide open areas to do what we want.  And there is PLENTY of unused land in Florida.

D@MN RIGHT!!!

Agreed TOOMEY!!! No way man!!! Trying to shut us up!!!!