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I know I often tell people I hate croom but I never tell them why. Here are my reasons. And don't tell me I havent seen the good parts of croom because I went there every weekend for a year.

1. WHOOPS. I don't mind whoops to a certain point but these whoops are insaining. Everypart of the trail is whoops and once in a while you'll get a short straight away.

2. Theres no where to go fast. There are no straight aways except for that persons driveway in the middle of croom. You can go fast on the property sarounding croom but if you dont want to get shot dont go on private property.

3. Too many trees. another reason why you cant go fast is to many trees.

4. The restrictions. If you ride on a main road your risking a ticket, if you ride at night your risking a ticket. Most of the croom people are usually pretty crappy if you go on the wrong rode by accident.

The only things I do like about croom is the fact that it reminds me of up north and there are some cool landmarks.

I say we boycott croom until the whoops are gone. Why can't they just put down crushed stone like they do up north to stop whoops. We should write the state about this problem. Also They should trim the trees on the trails. Ocala is so much better

One other reason that needs to be added $50 permit for the annual pass.  The very least they could do is some minor maintainance with the money their making off the permits!!!!

I'm not a big fan of Croom either-bought a pass last year and went almost a dozen times-mostly to get the use out of pass-but I probably won't be back until I hear some improvements are made or if Tate's Hell up north is any good!!---since now, I believe paying for one of the annual passes is good for both parks.

Croom rating=great for camping, not so great for riding!!

Think about what you are saying here, BUT! Croom is a legal place to ride ... :o  I know how you feel but I don't think you should advertise it on the internet!  The state can just take all of our riding spots away.

Don't like it? Don't ride there!

Or you could ask someone if you can help and bring in a tractor in to smooth out the whoops  ;)

And as far as getting tickets, you were obviously not following the rules...Right?

they wouldnt allow someone to come in a do it. I have written to the state and I dont brake the rules they just find reasons to get u.

Please stop whining about Croom.  It is the only legal place for some of us to ride anymore.  You know every time you enter the gate that the conditions are gonna be the same.  So if you hate whoops, tight trails, and some sort of rules then stop going.  Also, you must not spend a lot of time at Croom because there are plenty of places to go fast.  You need to either learn the forest or learn to ride faster.

If you ride a sport quad it is perfect for practicing to race or just get in shape for any competitionXC. If you ride a utility it might be to tight in the trees. If you are sa sport rider than the reason you can't go fast is you can't ride.  The reason for the road restrictions is a 12 year old girl got killed on the road. No offense. I like Croom.

Ocala is only 1+ hour north.

like i said, i rode there every weekend for a year, i've seen all of it. and i'm not whining i just think they should improve it.

Do you ever make a post where you dont need a bottle stuck in your mouth? Never been there, had lots of friends go there and seen pictures. Your on a dirtbike, of all people you shouldnt say you cant go fast. Easiest thing to ride whoops on. Put down rock? Are you crazy? Takes away all the fun of sliding and dust and less give if you crash. And i agree with what TRX450rRacer is saying

Nope, never.

Hey nj  I have rode there every other weekend for the last 15 years    and love it     go to ocalo   stop wining and get a life.....ITS LEGAL   AND HAS A NICE CAMPING AREA........

Im with suzuki outlaw on this,I had a sport quad that was 49" wide and i rode every part of that place in atleast 4 gear or faster,Them whoops are a walk in the park if you ever rode the power lines out at big scrub,and last time i checked atv ment woods and woods equals trees If you dont like that then ride in your drive way,Its got a straight away  no whoops and you dont have to pay fiddy bucks

Just my 2cents

Hey G"Suki Outlaw" you gonna be out there this weekend???

I have a yz85 I usually ride at sunshine motocross but every once and a while I go to croom for trails it's alot of fun there are alot of whoops that get old after a while but the place is huge just dont like to go when it's real wet .

If they had alot of water and mudpits you would not have to worry about WHOOPS being there.   ;D

dude dont insult me. little pepples are the best. they stop whoops and u can slide better on them then sand.

I will tell you what, if you ride behind Da_mtg_man when he is on his King Quad you would much rather have sand than pebbles.  i dont see how pebbles or rock would be a good idea.

Obviously the Boycott idea is NOT taking hold, hehe!

I don't necessarily agree with putting down pebbles but flattening some of the long straight whoop sections from time to time can't cost that much. 

As for the comment of taking equipment into Croom-why should I have to.  Thousands of people pay for the $50 annual permit and the ones that get PAID for their job should do it.  The other thing that sucks about the permit-When my family visits and brings their quads to ride-Croom doesn't have a weekend or daily pass-It's $50 a pop-THAT'S B.S-

If you can say a weekend of riding at Croom is worth $50-let me hear it. 

Yeah, it maybe legal to ride there but how fun is it when you have to constantly worry about running into someone else head on around the many blind corners.  I can go fast at Croom-that I'm not arguing-but I don't want to carried out in an ambulance/helicopter/meat wagon either-it's not that fun!!

All I'm saying is there is definitely room for some improvement with the profits that are made!!!

A couple-

1) one way trail system
2) flattening out whoops from time to time

Please don't shoot!!!

I hate the whoops to. But without the whoops you'd have alot more injuries. There like speed bumps. To many idiots on bikes racing around like there the only ones there.  Without the whoops you'd be hitting alot more trees

There is a reason why the whoops are there. To keep the speeds down. If there wasn't any whoops I'm sure there would be more accidents. Yes, I agree there are too many of them there but since it's only 1 hr from my house and Ocala is another 1.5 hours I'll go to croom when I don't want to get up at 6am and spend 50$ in gas to ride on some straight aways Croom is all that is there. Ride in the wooded areas and find a straight away. There is only trail between the pit and the campground that I got to the top of 4th on my quad. It was a little bumpy but nothing like the whoop road on the west side of the park.  -Mark

jmpnkfx400, I do like your one way trail system idea. I don't know how it would be to do. It would sure save on head on collisions.

I thought about that everytime we went out there-I think it would be possible and probably not that hard to map out-a one way trail system that is.  I hate worrying about the good possibility of a head on out there-for the sake of both parties that would be involved.

Mark 

I agree. I dont like the idea of hiting someone and its almost happend to me before. I don't mean to brag but if they gave me some money I could easily make the place one of the best spots in the country. It has great potential (however you spell it)

Croom has been around since the 70s and it seems like they havent taken care of it since then. The one trail i really dislike is the one along the fence because the trees are over grown.

LMAO aint gonna do it by putting gravel down. Either suck it up or find someplace else to ride. Whoops are part of riding!!!!

i'm not saying you can get rid of whoops. i am saying they should maintain the park with the 50 dollars i pay to get in.

The one way trail system has been used at other parks.  They are working on that in Ocala to the best of my knowledge.  It would be a great idea.  I hate leading a group because I will NOT ride at my potential due to the fear of head on collision.  But then that may be what they want is to not have ppl riding balls to the wall through there.

We all know what happens....everytime there is a major accident the fence off another riding area.  Rather than creating a solution they close an area or make it very difficult to get to that area.

I'd think they would make more money if they would offer a weekend pass option as well as the annual pass.  Most other off road parks around the country offer both. 

All good suggestions except for the gravel on the trails.  Not into that much road rash if I wreck.

Believe it or not they have this great kind of rock, its not exactly gravel its something else that doesn't get kicked up when you ride in back of someone. I rode on it all summer.

Believe it or not they have this great kind of rock, its not exactly gravel its something else that doesn't get kicked up when you ride in back of someone. I rode on it all summer.

Nj-believe it or not-I think it's called crack rock!!

NJ, You got punked ;),   Let me guess you really don't like croom......mmmmmm... then don't go. Less people the better ;D

the rock idea is definently a bad idea. What if you fall??? a bunch of rocks would hurt 27,000 times more than some sand and dirt. Whoops are fun if you know how to ride them.

for all you people that think that a 1 way trail system with no whoops is dangerous you should go to DURHAMTOWN PLANTATION  and ride! it is ths safest ride you will ever have!!!!!!!!

the rock idea, is a VERY BAD IDEA! i have been hit by a roost of sand that i thought was gonna knock me off my bike let alone ROCKS!

I agree that a daily pass as well as AN annual pass would be better and more profitable for the park!

 i will never go back to croom as long as the forest is open due to the number of riders vs the amount of space! you are 100 times more likely to hit another rider ther than you are in the forest.

as for those that dont like us speed riders, well thats part of riding! just like riding slow, or in the mud, or on a track! its what we like to do so dont knock other types of riders!

ITS PLAIN AND SIMPLE! IF YOU DONT LIKE IT, DONT GO OR DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!!!

What Dreth said... 110 percent. I love to ride as fast as my bike will take me. I haven't been to Croom but I've been to Ocala plenty of times and get out into the Forest and rarely see any other bikes. No annual fee, alot more trails, space, but there are whoops. That's just a part of riding. We're having a speed ride Sept. 3 starting out at Big Scrub. Come check it out.

i was at croom a few weeks ago and the big section of whoops from the first to second day was smoothed out, and was able to hit full speed.

   OH cool so this means now Croom doesn't suck!!!

what part of the park.

well if you don,t like croom then don't ride it, after all you're the one that hates it wich is cool and all, but it doesn't mean that everyone dislikes it. i mean is your opinion and only a opinion not a fact. oh yeah why worrie about croom if you don't have a job and no gas money to get there them you don't have to worrie about riding there.

oh by the way i heard mcdonals is hiring. (jk)

Look This thread wasnt ment to be offenceive. It was just ment to tell you why I don't like croom because people always ask me why I dont ride there. Oh and by the way I have worked crappy jobs like mcdonalds. I'm waiting until something better comes along.

dreth were you behind those 2 strokes again getting blasted with dirt? :o

and i'm not whining i just think they should improve it.   Yes you are whinning

Been there done that  >:( >:( >:( It sucks

you guys are wimps. Mudzillas don't throw much of a rock roost.  ;D

complain about places we can ride, complain about places we can't ride.  its a non-stop cycle.

True.

look opinons  r like @$$ holes every body has them ur just stinks more then others  ;)

I just say go to Suinshine MX. In Pinellas Park

Great, now you are gonna spawn the thread:

 "Reasons I HATE Sunshine MX. Boycott it"

Becuase that is the general opinion about that place too.

LOL

I want to go to kissimee

NJoutlaw, Quit your complaining please!  If you are going to stay on the negative side of everything must you really sit and always complain?  You can be a part of the problem or the solution.  Lisa is doing some great work in our favor.  If you want to do something then offer to help w/ the research and opening another park.  You are not willing to drive outside of Croom or North Port.  And all you do is complain about the two.  Get over it, get on the road and join us for a group ride.  We have fun!  Please get your quad and come join us.  There is some good riding.  No one likes a complainer!  Come have some fun w/ us!

dude i like northport. Best spot ever. I just dont like worrying about cops.