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I've seen some arguments as to which one is better so I've decided to finish this once and for all.  Chevy vs. Ford.   Winner gets bragging rights...and besides we all know which one is better *ahem cough cough Chevy cough*.

"Oh shoot"  What did you just start  ;D I can see it now Yunt and Chuck ;D

This one going to get delete in two days...  ;D

Lets hope not lol.  :D

my thoughts exactly(remember the last one-all them there( how can yousay) non-heterosexuals buying fords.

Gery I think its will go different.. yunts works at a Chev shore and Chuck at a Ford store. And both are great guys. ;D

Canepole needs to stay out of this one.  ;)

;D

a chevy is to look pretty and ride in comfort and ford is just for  work i own both

there have been about 5 of these threads ON THIS SITE! Do a fuggin search!

Hey, how about I did. I did not see a chevy vs. ford thread you moron.

chevyz71s r the best ;D

My daily driver is a 96 Ford Explorer, 4dr, 2wd. But my "baby" is my 85 Silverado 4x4, 4 inch suspension lift, 33's, power everything. I just can't stand putting gas into the chevy 10 times per day!

If I had my choice, Chevy's are best to work on and fix up. Fords are good for....... well, the junkyard stand out in my mind... LOL

Nah, my Explorer has been a dependable vehicle. But, Ford parts cost too much and Chevy parts are so easy to come by. Chevy has my vote.

Yeah, I think the same thing. Have you seen that new Ford Commercial that has the song "Drive it like a Ford"? Every time I hear that I think yeah, drive it like a Ford, straight to the junkyard.  ;D

There have been at least 1 other thread on this debate.  But here it goes. They both have service departments behind the sales departments.  Thank God, because service is my career.  I believe they are both great AMERICAN trucks.  My opinion-I've always liked and owned Chevys over Fords.

But that Ford Mustang GT-eewww whee-beautiful car!!

NOT AGAIN

At least we could have changed it around a little. Everyone on here knows what the thread would be all about. It could say.


1-What Yunt2ride thinks is the best

2-What Chuck_Norris thinks is the best

I searched for Chevy vs Ford and then I searched for Ford vs Chevy and came up with nothing. I remember the one argument before but it wasn't Chevy vs Ford it was talking about something Ford had said. I never saw a poll about it either.

thats wrong thread. Little before your time doc...

Doc, you can change to the most mileage on a truck?

What?

ok peckerhead!
http://www.atvflorida.com/forum/index.php?topic=822.0
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I love the Chevys but i have to tell you I just got the 05 Nissan Titan and this truck has got more nuts that both the Chevy and Ford  1/2 ton's  togather. ;)

                               Damn japs did it again :-\ ;D

how bout the thread where ford supports 'alternative" life styles.
drive it like a ford,
drive it like a ford,
you "alternative lifestlye non-heterosexual"
drive it like a ford. ;D ;D

Alright, you must feel like a king. I told you what I searched for and it didn't come up. I wasn't around for that one and it wasn't a poll but, whatever. I am sorry that I did not completely search the site to find it. I will turn this site upside down next time to make sure I don't come close to a topic that was created before.  ::)
I have dial up and don't have the time or resources to do all that crap. I'm glad that you do. I hope you are proud and have something new to tell your friends.

Good one gery.  ;D

You are a little possesed demon child! >:(

FORD FORD FORD ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

chevy ;D

Both are junk !
I'll take a Dodge with a Cummins motor any day over  both them over rated pieces of s@#$.
Too much blind brand loyalty .;D

Who has sold more trucks than any one period, I guess that speaks for its self. FORD. If chevy was so good they would have more people wanting to buy them. ;D

WORD

FORD

Guess that just means people have to keep replacing the ones that broke down!

so your with chevy too whats so good about chevys

Im sure your other 3 post would have been fine all in one. ::)

Scroll up. My daily driver is a Ford. But, my "toy" is a Chevy. If I had to choose, between one of them, it would be Chevy. Mostly because it is so easy to work on a Chevy and the parts are so inexpensive. Plus, everything interchanges on a Chevy small block. Can you say the same about 302 to a 351 to a 289, etc? Fords just aren't meant for the weekend hobbyist. The only thing Ford I would put in a play toy would be a 9 inch rear end. The rest just makes a good paper weight.  ;D

With all that said, this is just for "toys". I wouldn't mind owning a Navigator or a F-350.

Exactly Go cummons turbo diesel!!!  550 ft pounds of torque :P ;D

GM out sells ford every year, chevy and gmc are the same truck remember that ford owners forget that. chevy's and gmc have better resale value than ford. fords drive like crap look like it and sound like it, chevy's are about 10 years up in technology. chevy had independed front suspension sence 1988 ford just recently got it, ever heard of ''on star'' or ''four wheel steering'', the list can keep going and now a full size hybrid.        WANT A TRACTER BUY A FORD !  WANT  CLASS AND RELIABILITY BUY G.M.

Its 610 ft-lbs for 05' at 1600 rpm , duracows and the 6.0 turds have to turn 2000 rpm to get that.
Diesel power!

FORD any day. but i do have a dodge ram 2500 v10 4x4 and a toyota 4x4

seen this tag the other day
    I'd rather be cummin then stroking...

Ford

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sweet truck!

Wrong again. I posted the actual numbers on here one time before but for some reason they not on here any more. Ford says that the F-Series is the best selling truck in its class but what they don't tell you is that the F-Series goes all the way up to an F-750. They also count Chevy and GMC as different models. GM out sells all of them. The Silverado and Sierra only goes to a 3500 series then they call there larger trucks by a different name like Kodiac.

Just pushin' buttons here with the rivalry .
Doesnt matter what brand you favor they all have pro's and con's .

 I got a 75 chevy k10 4wd  that Ive had for 23 years now and has been the most reliable truck i've ever owned.

As  for the Dodge I am on my 2nd Dodge Diesel duallly , great truck pulls, a load with ease.
 Its an 05' with a diesel and a 6 spd .

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Very true.

So that's why Chevy reported a month ago that it lost 1 billion dollars? It was on CNN or MSN.  Oh and what happened to the camaro? Lack of sales brought that chitbox to it's demise. And Chevy is 10 years advanced in technology? LMFAO. Then why have they stuck a damn pushrod 350(LS1/LT1) in every sports car they make? Remember the LT4(I think that was the one)? First late model corvette with a DOHC motor. They couldn't design a good cooling system to the heads and the cams kept seizing? Ford is far more advanced. Look at all the new age motors they have created. 4.6 SOHC/DOHC, 5.4 SOHC/DOHC the new 4.6/5.4 3 valve engine, V10(in some full size trucks and vans. And lets not forget the powerstroke line of engines. 

And the heads on a 302 does fit on a 351. The F150 is the most selling truck. Do a google and you'll see.

Yes I own 2 Ferds(cobra and f150) but my wife owns a camaro. I've had more problems in 8 months with that car than I have had on my cobra since I bought it over 6 yrs ago. My truck I bought recently hasn't gave me any problems so far.  -Mark

We have had a camaro for 10 years without one problem at all. You must have got a lemon man.

Look at NASCAR historical statistics.

LMK, why are you green? ;D  PS the japs make a better truck guys.. SORRY  ???

All I'm gonna say is that any fool can stroke (powerstroke)
Real men Ram it
(Cummins)

1= "So that's why Chevy reported a month ago that it lost 1 billion dollars? It was on CNN or MSN." Answer= Yea, if they lost so much then how could they have given away 1,000 new GM vehicles last year and this year with the Onstar Hotbutton Promotion, and how could they have given away almost 300 Pontiac G6's on the Opera Winfrey show. When was the last time any other manufacterer rather American or import gace anything like that away. How much big money advertising do you see GM doing compared to all ther others manufactureres. If they were losing so much money then they could not do that.

2="Oh and what happened to the camaro?". Answer= Yes they did do away with the Camaro but watch out. When they removed it GM said they were doing away with the CURRENT GENERATION Camaro. Key word current. I do beleive that they are working on a NEXT Generation but they won't say until their ready to bring it out. Thats my opinion on that. Ford does have a nice car in a Mustang with this new one, thats for sure.

3="And Chevy is 10 years advanced in technology? LMFAO. Then why have they stuck a d**n pushrod 350(LS1/LT1) in every sports car they make? Remember the LT4(I think that was the one)? First late model corvette with a DOHC motor." Answer= I don't beleive there is a motor out there any better then the GM 350 cubic inch or the 4.3 liter V6 engine on the market available. Even Ford people have to admit that. You can do almost anything to them and get all kinds of HP out of them so I personally think that GM is going wrong by getting rid of such fine engines. They now have a 6.0 liter in the Corvette and a mustang cannot touch it. Sorry

4="Ford is far more advanced. Look at all the new age motors they have created. 4.6 SOHC/DOHC, 5.4 SOHC/DOHC the new 4.6/5.4 3 valve engine, V10(in some full size trucks and vans. And lets not forget the powerstroke line of engines. " Answer= The Ford 4.6 liter has been out since like 1998. Why did they do away with the 5.0. HUH. Chevy has had new engines in there trucks since 1999. The new engine have 6 bolt mains, not 2 or 4. Can Ford say that.  GM also was the first to put a coil for every cylinder. As for a V-10, I'm glad  GM didn't go there. Ford was just following Dodge on that one. Where are all of them now. As for a Diesel, Gm now has 625 foot lbs of torque in their 2006 models and are quieter then anyone on the market. Ford did have a good 7.3 diesel but lets not get into the problems with the 6.0 powerstroke. You would not like it.

5="And the heads on a 302 does fit on a 351." WOOHOO< the heads off a 305 will fit a 350 what is your point there.

6="The F150 is the most selling truck." Answer=Wrong, the F series truck outsells any other truck in its class. I explained this to you. The F-Series goes up to a F-750, General Motors sold more trucks than any other manufacturer on the market.

Yes, GM lost alot of money. Here's the link.

http://www.autoblog.com/entry/1234000820040650/

Any Opera purchased those cars to give to her audience.  ::)

the 350 chevy engine in my opinion is the best v8 engine ever designed. i think v8s should not be ohc i have yet to see one that i can say its worth anything. you can run a 350 to the ground, let it cool off and shes ready to go. believe me i've seen it time and time again.

oh ya like yunt said big deal you can fit a 302 on a 351(windsor that is).
you can fit a 305 and a 327 head on a 350.

technology= back in the 80's and 90's ford had the STAR system which the only way of retrieving codes from the onboard diagnostic system was counting sweeps on a voltmeter and thats it. no stream data.
 gm on the other hand had code retrieval and multiple diagnostic capabilities- such as reading sensors, solenoids, fuel mixtures, etc.

lucky for ford(actuall y mechanics) they had to comply with obd and obd2.

Nope, Opera did not purchase them. GM wanted a way to get the publics attention about the new G6 and thats how they did it. I know the whole story on that one. If GM may have reported a lose it because they needed a big tax writeoff. I explained it. If they really did lose that much, even as a big corporation. They could not have given away over 1267 new vehicles. That alone would counts for over $30 million at $25,000 average per vehicle.

i think she flipped the bill for the taxes because the winners were saying if they didnt have money to fix their old cars they didnt have the money to pay the taxes on the new ones.

The comment about the heads was in regards to someone saying that parts are not interchangeable with the 302/351's. It wasn't directed to you or gery350. Don't know who said it. lol. 305... now that was a motor.  :D ;)

When people say that the 350 is the best motor ever, you can't really say that because a 1980's 350 is not the same or not even close to the 350's(actually 346's) of today. The LT1/LS1/LS2 have totally different intakes, cams, and heads than the old school 350's. The mains may even be different from older ones but I think the bore/stroke may be the same.  But agrumentably it is one of the best/versatile motors ever built.
I just don't like the LS1's  because they use a plastic intake. That's cutting costs IMO.   -Mark

Ford!
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Nice L! Here's one of my Ferds:


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The main part of the motor is the bottom end, not the top end. You can do all types of stuff to the top but the bottom is the part thats really more important.

in all honesty i think ford and chevy are both good cars/trucks.

i just prefer chevy. as a mechanic its always been easier to work on and i found the repairs were cheaper and it was an overall reliable vehicle.
now  i will give this to ford the old straight 6 they had in vans and trucks were indestructible.

Japs found a market with pickup trucks. And now there take over the market, Honda, Nissan and Toyota. They started with the suv market and will take over the truck market soon... Remember there make here in the USA.

never say never but i will never buy a foreign car.
i am not an economist but although they may be built here, all the profit goes to them d@mn japs.

the asians are slowly but surely taken over the world. :D

Thats to funny. How can Honda say that they have a truck. Its on a car chassis. Its a small SUV without the top. HEHE. The Subura Brat was more of a truck then the Honda.


Now for your Toyotas and Nissans. Lets see what vthe track record for their V8's are gonna be. American V8's are already proven. Are you gonna be the guinnie pig that buys it on a hope that it hold s up. Plus Do you remember Pearl Harbor, That was the Japs that bombed us. I say support them so they can get enough $$$$ to bomb us again.

Amen. Same here. I'll never buy a car that runs off of sushi and rice!  ;) That and will never buy a FWD car again. I'll take good ole fashioned American torque. -Mark

the bottom line is the japs have the market cornered on 4 cyl.
but they cant compete with the american made v8. no way.

I have a Honda Pilot great SUV... this all wheel drive. Doesn’t have a car classic this also build here in the USA by Americans. Sorry Yunts but I worked for GM for a few years and GM V8 have problems with eng knocking noise for years now. When Honda sees a problem that keeps happening on there vehicles, they send out a letter to correct the problem... Not hide it!    http://www.classcounsel.com/news/gm.html Its stuff like that makes me buy a Honda.

Sorry BigD, The Pilot and the Ridgeline has a unibody structure, not a ladder type frame like a truck. Unibody is for cars. If you pull anything with it you would be pulling from the body, not the frame. (because it does not have one). The Ridgeline also only comes in 4WD, no 2WD's are available. Like I said, The Subura Brat was more truck then this Honda Ridgeline. That link only says that some lawyer has filed suit. Anybody can file suit. When GM came out with their new engines in 1999, they would sometimes sound like they had an engine knock over time because the piston was close to the head and it would build up carbon on top of the piston. They just needed the top of the piston cleaned to get rid of the knock but it was not a big deal. GM redesigned the pistons after the first ones and got rid of that problem. And GM did not hide it, when a customer complained, we fixed it.

bigdaddy i always pictured you in a big ole dually not a little ricecooking honda. whats up with that.

Its my wife SUV, I drive a Jaguar (Ford Product)

I never said it had a frame? Yunt there so many product bulletins on the rod knock issues and oil consumption its not funny. GM started to replace Engine 1 1/2 year ago over it. Remember the letter from tech line?


BTW: Honda arent 4wd there are all wheel drive, They dont have 4 low. 

i got a 2002 5.3 v8 chevy and i aint got no rod knocks or oil consumption.

Ok, Now I am biased because I and my dad own Chevy's from 1963 all the way up to 2005... 10 between the two of us. All I have to say is I just sold my 2000 Silverado, because I got a new one. When I sold it, it had 236,000 miles on it. In five years and all that mileage, I put one set of brake pads on it, 4 sets of tires, oil changes every 3000 miles, etc. The ONLY mechanical problem I ever had was one $650 A/C compressor died last fall. That to me is a true sign of quality, and that's why I paid a little more to buy another Chevy.

Ford also owns Lincon so add that buddy.

WOOHOO, I did, do you know how many trucks that lincoln sells. They just started selling them a few years ago and all they are is overpriced glorified  F-150s

why your adding might as well add the escalade oh ya and the hummers( i mean if we're reaching, might as well reach.)

We have had Chevy/GMC for the last 5 years, before that we had a 2x4 ford and a 4x4 Toyota.......Because the price was right  :D They were OK.

But now with the 10,000 $ off the sticker we could not pass this up  ;D

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05 F250 4x4 4-door Turbo Diesel Lariat  ;D Love it

Here's one for you Ford guys..  ;D

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Who cares as long as it gets you from point a to point b?

Also we all know the built Ford Tuff with Chevy Stuff.

You think exactly the same as my dad does.  ;D

I have seen names besides Chevy and Ford in here so I guess I am going to go off topic also and reset and add new options to the poll.  :D

Looks slow.  ;) I think my lawnmover has bigger exhaust ports than that 383 does.  ;)  

On a side note, I have heard that chevy's like to bend pushrods and consume a little earl.  -Mark

your father is a smart man. wish i had a dad like that. ;)

That's what I'm talkin about.I had a 82 S-10 with a 350 in high school. Mild cam and headers would run mid 13's all day long.

Old School... Look close at that motor pic...  3 freeze plugs in the side of the block means it's a 400, not a 350 block.   ;D No 383 here buddy...   That's  12.5:1, 406 CI, Fully ported & Polised AFR headed, Full Roller, Biggest small block cam Crane builds, over 600 hp bad ass right there!!  ;)

Bart, what did you use for a crankshaft?

Here's one for you ford and chevy guys:

http://www.off-road.com/dodge/deserttank/2002_05/

I especially like the part where he says: "what do you really see in a FORD? I see a bunch of bucktooth belly grinding southern boyz sitting around talking about how the FORD used to rule the road. Well, no more! They may sell the most trucks in the truck market, but as far as I'm concerned, that means they have snowballed most of the general public." ;D

Just kidding, the big 3 all make great trucks these days.

Sounds good. At the track I usually see either a buttload of 383's or they skip the 400's go straight to big chief's.  What's the specs on the cam? I'm gonna try and guess and say .500 lift with .28X duration? Are AFR's as good of a head in Chevy's as they are for Fords? I run into a guy at the track with a 408 in his yellow s10(older body style). I tree'd him and we were even through the 330' then his 408(double the hp compared to my street car) started to book it.

-Mark

that is a bad @ass small block. its not easy to get 600hp from a small block.

All the testing I read about Dart vs Brodix vs AFR say AFR flows far better. Of course until recently, they were the only one that you could get off the shelf full ported & polished. So I went with 'em. They probably would make more power if I had bought them plain, and had them custom ported & polished for my application, but that runs into more cash than I've got to spend. As for the cam it is a .670"/.625" lift, 290/306 degree duration what Crane calls "Pro Stock Profile". Was that 408 powered truck tubbed? Sounds like you've got a bad little street car there.
Big-Daddy- On the crank, its a Eagle forged 4340 unit, as are the rods. Come to think of it, The crank I bought has 4.00" stroke compared to the stock 3.750", so this thing is actually 415 cubic inches, not 406.

Sorry for hi-jacking the thred Dr. Dirt....

Hey, no problem. I enjoy reading all this motor stuff.  :D

go to googles and type "gm engine noise"  and see what happens ;D

its a conspiracy i tell ya. ;D

Sorry chev guys!!!    "Knock, Knock" who there? Chev starting Hehehehe  ;)

i dont know what your talking about i dont hear a d@mn thing. ;)

oh wait, i do. its another ford blowing up. i mean found or road dead.

Yes. The guys name was Randy. I believe he was on 31"s and welds but they were bigger than 28". He went 10.77@124. Probably a motor pass to clean out the bugs.  -Mark

Ditto on the thread jacking. Ford rules!  ;)

First On Race Day....or Fix Or Repair Daily ???

Here is a link for you. This is dated August 2005

http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosinsider/0508/10/C01-276094.htm


Judge tosses it out.

A federal judge in Oklahoma City has granted General Motors Corp.'s motions to dismiss 10 counts in federal suits filed on behalf of hundreds of pickup and SUV owners who claim their vehicles have defective engines.

but later reversed his ruling and granted the suits national class

I see there is even a website: www.pistonslap.com.  The caption: GM engines are "Like a knock" :D

Now do a google on Explorer rollover. Don't say it was Firestones because GM was running firestones also with no problems. They tryed to blame it on the tires because it was cheaper to replace the tires then buy back all of those Fords. I say it was partly due to the tire pressure that Ford recommended to get a better ride and partly do to Suspension.

sorry last highjack I swear.  ;)

BBC- As much as I hate to show this here's me racing the yellow s10. Temp was 90* with humidity 80% or so. The car normally in good weather runs 12.0's. Stock N/A longblock. 3200+lbs. -Mark

http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=BitemarkFrontWheel86

What's that term..."brought a knife to a gun fight"  :D ;) I had him till about the 330' mark.                 -Mark

The suits, filed a year ago, have yet to be classified as a class action.

That was from the article.


Also I would rather have a little noise then be dead because my Ford was doing tricks on me.

GM settled Sue http://www.freep.com/money/autonews/knock21_20040221.htm

Even though GM says it's prepared to fight the cases, it's possible they won't make it to trial, legal experts say.

"A class action is not good publicity," said Peter Henning, a law professor at Wayne State University. "GM does want its customers to be happy. If the class is certified, it will probably be settled."

The suits still could pose a problem for GM because the automaker has been trying to improve its quality and image.

In May, GM kicked off an unusual advertising campaign, Road to Redemption, in which it acknowledged past quality issues as a way to show its improvements.

So now lets talk about Ford and there paint peeling and rust problem  ;D

id rather pull my chevy than drive a ford ;D

would you all stop fighting!!!


























by the way, we ALL know that fords are definatly better all around!!   :P

achoo sry im allergic to lies ;Dchevys da best

than stop lyin about chevys bein better

you know that u are lyin to ur self!! just admitt it!!

alright i like 1 dodge other than that  chevys rock General Lee

Stop it kids.. your first have to drive to vote

i have riden with my dad*ford* and my uncle*chevy* plenty of times to tell the difference*and the truth*

























and the truth is........................ Fords rock!!! chevys fall apart too easily

ive driven the buggy so  :P lol

Fords do Rock






























And Roll Over

Good one yunts ;D

Nice video Old School...  And nice (and I hate to say this) Mustang.  ;D

Ya'll aren't hijacking anything, thats what this is all about. Trash talking and showing off your ride to prove which one is better.

1989 Mustang, 5.0 ,5 speed, 220,000 miles daily driver with a/c blowing cold, power steering working all stock intereor. 12.73 on street tires. OH sorry the motor had 100,000 miles on it when the car did this.

All fast Chevy's need ford to push them around 9"!!!

   Jim,

High 12 on stock tire and 100,000 mile eng...  ??? Dude I was born at night...  but, not last night! ;)

Old School was showing you how fast that S10 would run. Blowed that Mustang away but we talk stock. I do have to say that the Ford 9 inch is the best rear but the 350 chevy is always in front of it when you want performance. HEHE


They don't call them Fordolets for nothing.

They all suck ;D I have a brand new F350 diesel. Before that a Dodge Diesel, before that a few Chevys. When I am in the mood for a new ride I buy from the company that comes closest to building what I want. You can get a lemon from any of them. Screw brand loyalty its silly.
 I ride a YFZ because its the baddest beotch out, if Susuki's new 450 due out this fall kicks aZZ guess what I'll be riding?

yunts let talk a little bit about ford a the Explorer roll over. Why is there after the recall on the tire there's no word about them rolling over. do you think it was the tire?

Because they got smart and started putting more then 26 or 28 lbs of air in them. You can take a piece of steel and flex it enough and it will break. Plus if you see an SUV thats rolled over, more then likely. Its an explorer still.

  Hey  Matt.  Tell  us  how  you  really  feel. ;D ;D

Yunt check this out.. Roll over test 2004 http://money.cnn.com/2004/02/04/pf/autos/rollover/

The lowest rating earned by any vehicle rated so far, a two-star rating, was garnered by the four-door two-wheel drive Ford Explorer Sport Trac. The Explorer Sport Trac, and extended cab pick-up, tipped onto two wheels during the test, according to NHTSA.

well it like  the chev as there v8 eng knocking noise and on the ford we have the Ford Explorer Sport Trac as the wrost on roll over.

I remember the old days the wrost thing that can have to you in traffic was being in rush hour traffic  and looking back and seen in your rear view mirror Audi 5000 and in front of you is a ford pinto. And there you sit with your life in god hands.. who Know wants going to happen here. ;D

I am glad I am sitting on the side lines with this one, Holly Cow you guys can talk stuff crazy stuff,  Just like Chillin said If the suzuki is as bad as it says it is, I know what my next ride will be. FORD pays my bills so I am supporting my bread and butter

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Well said Chuck. I am glad you are not one of those people that works for a company and talks about how much you hate it even though they give you benifits and such.

There you are................

As for bread and butter, Me to..........

They all have their good and bad and as long as they are man made, things will break eventually. I just hate the media when they let people know only parts of the whole story. If people are gonna put something down then they need to do a lot of research. Chuck, me and you usually know more then the media because we are in the business. The japs do make good 4 cylinder engines but they have not been making any V8's to know how long they will last and they have no track record. If you service them and take care of them they all will last a good long time and yes you may get a bad one every now and then but it is pretty rare. Just remember that all car lots you go to has service departments. Ask the salesman to show you it.

I remember the old days the wrost thing that can have to you in traffic was being in rush hour traffic  and looking back and seen in your rear view mirror Audi 5000 and in front of you is a ford pinto. And there you sit with your life in god hands.. who Know wants going to happen here. 

Yunt lets compare..  a strip only S10 = what, 2500lbs? AND with a built 408. Vs. a 3200lb streetcar with a little 281 c.i. motor with stock heads, cams, intake and bottom end. He's probably doubled my hp but I was with him for 330 feet. It wasn't showing how "fast" an s10 can be. It' just his pockets are deeper than mine.  You can do the same thing to a ranger with a nice 351 in it. I'm sure that that s10 didn't have OEM heads, cam and intake.

It drag racing it boils down to power vs weight ratio. But deep pockets do help.  ;) 

FWIW, I don't have a 9" I have an 8.8 in my mustang. Works just as good.  -Mark

there you go chevy in front again. like i said earlier, i spent all day pulling out that bronco.


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Old I'll give you props where they're due.. That's quick time to run all stock. I can tell you all what I've got, but I can't tell you what it'll run, so I will hold back on talking smack about my Chevy.... Until it's done, and then it's ON!  ;D

I did not say stock tires, I said street tires, I also did not say the engine was stock. But 100,000 yes. This one was bult on Wednesday because it was real strong. And it did have 220,000 on it when I sold it. Will be happy to show you time slip if you like but like they say after your comment it will cost ya. There are many daily driver Mustangs out there that will run high 12's that is why Chevy stopped building the Camoro.

CHILLIN, well put bud, as for jbbj220 mustang he not kidding ive seen the car and when he sold it at 220,000 I still seen the car on the road for a couple more years. I as chuck work at ford and know its all nuts and bolts in the end, and they all have there problems or there wouldnt be service departments so lets RIDE! ;D

Thanks. I'm sure with your setup and 600hp in a sub 2500lb truck it will only take 3 numbers to write you ET on a piece of paper.  ;) What tracks will you be taking it to? Good luck with it.  -Mark

Braggin rights, Johnny Gults mustang ran something like 6.30's and well over 200mph Gentlemen that is 1/4 mile times. and he drives it on the street as well, you'll see him in Orlando at the World Street Finals where only street cars show up. If you are not running 8 seconds you will need to leave it at home or on the trailer. Very Good racing. it will be coming up in October again this year, anyone up for a group ride to Orlando Raceway?  ;D 

He's awesome. I got him on film on the first ever Pro 5.0 racer to hit 200 mph. This was about 4 yrs ago at FFW in Brandenton.  I think that class is almost getting too fast. 2000hp on a small black. Unreal.  -Mark

Hell, I'll road trip with you Ford guys to Orlando..  And Old School, as for tracks, Moroso is home sweet home... Although I haven't made a pass down the track in the S-10 yet, that was were I last ran my old race car in 1991.

Here ya go.   ;D ;D


http://www.corvettemuseum.com/specs/2006/index.shtml

CHOKE ON MY SMOKE....

 that is the most beautiful thing i've ever seen. i think i'm gonna cry.

no Piston slapping noise  ???

wutchu talk about willis?

500 HP from a 7.0 L and yet the Mustang will have the same HP with a 5.4 L :o

Imagine the HP Ford could get with a 7.0 L :P

Main reason I went with Ford is because the Chevy's are a couple thousand dollars more for the same models.  Trucks, Suv's everything.  Why is that?  Plus the Chevy interiors are ugly as hell.  When are they going to get away from all the small seperate indicators in the dash?  I've owned a Ranger and now F150 Super Crew and have had no problems with either vehicle.

Way behind guys!  Ferrari 6.2 800hp at 8500 rpm http://www.ferrariworld.com/FWorld/fw/index.jsp

Exactly. This is my 2000 GT which was my daily driver for 4.5 years. I raced it on slicks but drove it to and from races, changed tires then raced. Stock motor, aftermarket cams and all the basic bolt ons (no power adders, nitrous, blower, turbo, etc...), weight reduction (3150lbs race weight) and a great suspension. Car went a best of 11.97@113 before I stopped driving it every day. Oh and it had 112K miles on it when it went the best time.

http://users.adelphia.net/~mustang-92/images/Houston_02-Launch.jpg

Bill

Putnam? Welcome to the site. This is bitemark46.  ;D Didn't know you were into quads. lol. What a small world. -Mark

Yea but can anyone really afford one. Not unless they are independently wealthy. Corvettes and mustangs are at least in reach.

Hey Mark how's it going. Yep sure is a small world.

Bill

Hey are you guys going to kiss or something NOW!  :D

Uhhh no.

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MUST I SAY MORE? ;D

OVAL PRIDE ;D

All I saw was a bunch of junk.  ;D

bowtie pride chevy ride

HMMMM, Wonder why most of those are clean.....................

fords will out rust any chevy, they use left over trailer sheet metal from the hurricanes thats why ford are so square like their drivers!!! ;D

I'm sure there are some Ford people looking for cheap Horsepower so here it is.


http://209.59.129.221/forum/index.php/topic,5423.0.html

Only little boys wear bow ties.

only in a chev

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Do you know that they were caught and sent back to Cuba and the same dude built another but used a big car the second time, got caught again, got sent back and finally a few months back I read where he finally made it to the USA. They ended up sinking those two vehicles and using them as barrier reefs.

That true story.. . What a waste of a 51 chev truck

Thats exactly what I was thinking.

If it was a Ford it would have been Found On Reef Dead  ;) They would have had to use inner tubes like so many others  ;)

FORD BUILT TOUGH!!

If they would have used a Ford they would have made it the first time.

   Jim,

Thats good, I'm gonna have to use that one.  :D

I work in a tire shop part time so I get to work on all makes and models of vehichles. I pretty much hate all vehichles equally at this point. LOL

change jobs or you be riding a horse ;)

We need some mechanics on here to tell us which vehicle they see the most coming into there shops.  Then we can settle this once and for all.   ;D

That would not work, Chuck_Norris only sees Fords in his shop and where I work they are GM, HEHE

I went to St.Lucie County today and on the way there in Ocochobe I saw a new Ford F150 on the side of the road with smoke just pouring out the hood. The thing was covered in mud, I guess they thought a Ford could go mudding  :D .  Thats a true story, I would have taken pictures but I didnt bring the camera.

As a Mechanic Shop owner years ago I mostly saw Chevy and Dodge with more serious issues than Ford. Ford cars are OK, Ford Trucks are by far better built than any other truck I've worked on. The only real problem I saw with the Ford is some of the EOD tranny's leaking.

Yunts and Chuck, The best truck and the best price. Who can give me a price on a 3/4 ton diesel work truck. Regular cab or crew cab . I priced one from Chev ( reg cab long box 4x4) for $35,030.00 with trailer hitch,skid plate and off road tires

it was the "pictured you in a dually" comment ay.

Still keeping the jag, need a tow vehicle  ;)

i can just picture it now. big daddy pulling up at a ride in a jag with a big@ss trailer behind it. big-pimpin.

lord knows you got the power-if you got the v-12.

Now I have been born and rasied to think breathe and eat FORD, matter of fact I own a Ford but I have to say for every event I've been to like Muddfest, Felda all the truck shows and pulls chevy has always out done the fords.  Now I'm not saying Ford is a piece of crap I love my truck and every other ford I've owned but overall chevy trucks have always out performed the ford trucks.  Plus I hate to say i but I think chevy looks better too. :dunno.gif

Must be different on the pavement. Go to a FFW or an NMRA and watch and be amazed. Then go to a Super Chevy or a F-body Shootout you'll be a good 2 seconds slower in the fastest heads up class. 

On a side note, only kiddies play in the mud.  ;) ;D j/k.  -Mark

Big D, was that a crew cab because that would be high for a regular cab. I'm sorry but there are not very many Duramax Diesels left on the market. $35,000 to $37,000 sounds about right for an LS model with all these GM Employee discounts that there is right now.

Traitor!  :)

yunts, do they make a crew cab diesel with a short box?

Yes but you may have a hard time finding one because most of them got sold the first month of GM Emplyee pricing for everyone. That is actually the most popular one out there. What did you get a price on.

reg cab

$35000 for a regular cab 4wd is about the retail after rebates, depending on options. I can check that out tomorrow to be sure.

thanks see what you have in stock..

DAMNITMAN  :B :cursing.gif

236,000 Miles?  That is amazing......and it will probably run for another 100,000 easy......

yunts, just a trailer hitch and skid plates for options

well you should definitely get the tow package not just the hitch.
you need the transmission cooler along with the prewired harness for the trailer lights and electric brakes.  depending on hte load you may also want the lower gear ratio on the diff.

My brother's first car was a '86 Honda civic hatch back or something and he brought it over to my grandpa's house to do some work to it; now my grandpa fought in one of the wars and hates anything jap, all he does it work on vehicles and watched the history channel claming "we should've nuked 'em all" you know very stubborn old man well he's got a picture of Henry Ford hanging in his garage and as soon as my brother pulled in the the drive he frantically threw a cloth over Henry's eyes and told my brother he couldn't work on the car at his house because Henry would know that jap piece of crap was at his house. 
Yeah granps isn't so bad anymore he eventually let my brother work on his car there but ol Henry had to stay covered the whole time.

thats funny. i wonder if he covers henry's eyes for other things as well. ;) :)

Gross!! You scoundrel!!! That's my grandpa...old people don't do that they make cookies and look cute with all their wrinkles...ewww really bad mental images.

The heavy duty power package comes with the Duramax and Allison trans. So you get all the coolers and alt.

thats what i meant. making cookies and looking cute.

hey big daddy if you do get the heavy duty chevy you think you can come by my house. i need to pull it about 5 feet to the left.
 if you get the ford, dont bother replying. :)

Big Daddy, Gery knows if you use a Chevy it will break down and he will have a free truck    :o

ouch!!  ;)

as they say -dont look a gifted horse in the mouth. :D

besides i'd rather have a broken chevy than a running ford.
its still worth more.

Never heard that on before but thats pretty good.

But I'm sure you've heard a Chevy rusting ;)

OK, I'll be honest, never heard any brand rust but have seen all of them rust. But even a rusted out OLD chevy still will be seen going down the highway under its own power. Unlike some others. Unless of course, they are powered by GM also.

Big Daddy I just built your truck on the Ford Direct website, I encourage you to make any changes that you need but here are the reults. mind you that this is MSRP before discounts
https://www51.forddirect.fordvehicles.com/Dispatch.jsp?.CurrentState=NoDealerUserInfo
 
 
     
 
 

[b]Vehicle may vary from pictures.     2005 F-250 SD XL Crew Cab 4X4 - 6-3/4'

Please verify that the information below correctly represents the selections you have made. For your convenience the Total MSRP price is included. See bottom of the page for more pricing details.
 
         
 
 Mike Shad Ford   
7700 Blanding Blvd, Jacksonville, FL  32244 
 
 
   
     
   
 
 Base Price: $29,830.00   
 
   
 
   
 
 Packages:   
 
 o   Skid Plate Package  $100.00   
 -   Fuel Tank Skid Plate 
-   Transfer Case Skid Plate 
 
 
 
 Power:   
 
 o   6.0L OHV Power Stroke® Diesel V8 Engine  $5,100.00   
 o   TorqShift™ 5-Speed Automatic Transmission w/Overdrive (6.0L Diesel)  $1,490.00   
 o   3.73 Limited Slip Axle Ratio  $300.00   
 o   Payload Package #1c  no charge   
 -   6.0L OHV Power Stroke® Diesel V8 Engine 
-   2700-lbs Maximum Payload 
-   10000-lbs GVWR 
 
 
 
 Exterior:   
 
  o     
   
   
 Red Clearcoat
     
 o   17" Argent Painted Wheels (5)  no charge   
 o   LT245/75Rx17E BSW All-Season Tires (5)  no charge   
 
 
 Interior:   
 
  o     
   
   
 Medium Flint
     
 o   Heavy-Duty Cloth/Vinyl Weave Full Bench Seat w/Recline  no charge   
 o   Electronic AM/FM Stereo/Clock  no charge   
 
 
 
   
 
   
 
 The following features come standard on your vehicle but may have been upgraded by options you have selected above.   
 
 
Exterior:
 
  -  LT245/75R17E BSW A/S Tires   
  -  Argent Steel Wheels   
  -  Box Rail/Tailgate Moldings   
  -  Bumper, Argent   
  -  Fixed Interval Wipers   
  -  Front Tow Hooks   
  -  Grille, Argent   
  -  Locking Removable Tailgate   
  -  Man Fold Sideview Mirrors   
  -  Pickup Box, Tie Down Hooks   
  -  Sealed Halogen Headlamps   
  -  Spare Tire & Wheel Lock   
 
Interior:
 
  -  AM/FM Stereo w/Clock   
  -  Black Vinyl Floor Covering   
  -  Cloth Sun Visors w/Rt Mirr   
  -  Day-Night Rear View Mirror   
  -  Dome Lamp   
  -  Dual Cupholders   
  -  Cloth/Vinyl Weave Bench   
  -  Rear Bench w/Forward Fold   
 
Functional:
 
  -  Auxiliary Power Point   
  -  Cargo Box Light   
  -  Power Steering   
  -  Trailer Towing Package   
  -  Mono Beam Coil Spring Suspension w/ Stabil Bar   
  -  29 Gallon Fuel Tank   
 
Safety & Security:
 
  -  4-Wheel Antilock Brake Sys   
  -  Adjustable Safety Belts   
  -  Driver/Passenger Air Bags

Warranty:
 
  -  36 / 36 Bumper To Bumper   
  -  24 Hr Roadside Assistance     
 
 Destination Charge:   
 
  -   Destination and Delivery  $850.00   
   
 $37,670.00       
 
   
 
 
   
 
 
 

thanks Chuck  8)

You will need to buy that  250 to move that house. ;)

Nice truck Chuck. I was out a couple of weeks ago looking at the F-250's Super-Duty's. Man they are some nice trucks, couldn't refrain from salivating. I think the new Chevy trucks look pretty cool on the outside, but GM like Dodge need to upgrade their tooling so they can have semi-decent looking interiors. I don't know if they're color blind, cheap or just hired a Clown, but a 10 different color interior is ugly to me. The best truck in my opinion would have a Ford body with a Cummings Diesel engine and an Allison transmission.

to all you ford lovers, all i hear is blah, blah, blah, blah. blah ;D ;D


no but seriously- they are both great trucks. its just a matter of personal preference. i prefer the chevy, but ford does make a great truck.

True.

You got that 110% right.  That's why I bought the dodge, can't beat that cummins engine

This is probably irrelevant, however has anyone ever listened to the difference in the noise level between the Big Three
Diesels? Holy Crap are those Dodges and Fords noisy or what? I could hear a Cummins over my dual 2 chamber Flowmasters behind a Chevy 406. Give me a Duramax any day, since thats about the only way I'd be able to afford one anyway. GITRDONE!

nothing is better than a chevy!

Not according to this poll.....

I'm sure we can poke fun back and forth about them (like I'm about to right now)  ;) but I know everyone knows the FORD acronym's but a funny saying I heard about chevy is this:

"90% of all the chevy's are still on the road"
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"The other 10% actually made it home" lol.  :D  All in fun guys. -Mark

Well, due to the fact that no one could figure out that chevy was better, I decided to help you out, Chevy wins by default  :D. For all that smart people that knew chevy was better good job, for all the people that voted ford..Get help.. now.  ;D

Who wants to go home when you have such a nice driving truck. You must have to give those fords a rest or just like paying for lawn ornaments.

I have thought long and hard about this and have come to the conclusion that:

  I would rather have a sister that worked in a wh**r house than a brother that droave a sorry a** Chevy.

 Just kidding guys I don't have a sister, but if I did.

Only because she would be making the cash and you would be hoping to borrow some. HEHE...........

Ford sucks.  I bought an explorer at an auction thinking i could sell it and make a profit. This was before I knew fords are worth nothing.

Is the Ford Lightning still the fastest truck on the road from the Factory?

Yes. Good driver and good weather high 13's.    -Mark

I wou need her cash to keep my Chevy running, that is if I wasn't real smart and drove a Chevy.

But then the real smart guys drive Fords and don't need much cash to keep them runing.

I know that I have said to much but had to do it anyway.

   Jim,

funny and true!!   :P

Its better to be on the road instead of onside of the road. Found On Road Dead. LOL

Wow, did you just make that one up? I never heard of that one before.  ::)  ;)  -Mark