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Title: a good question
Post by: KXKID on August 14, 2005, 10:27:15 AM
why do we have to wear seat belts in cars but you dont have to wear a helmet on a motorcycle¿


Title: Re: a good question
Post by: KXKID on August 14, 2005, 10:27:55 AM
i think that is crazy


Title: Re: a good question
Post by: Dr.Dirt on August 14, 2005, 10:41:54 AM
why do we have to wear seat belts in cars but you dont have to wear a helmet on a motorcycle¿


Because people are stupid. They can give big tickets for you not wearing your seatbelt and say "We are just trying to save lifes." But yet it isnt a law to have to wear helmets on a motorcycle. What about their lifes? Even though I am young I have know people that have died from not wearing their helmets on motorcycles. I think the law makers care more about their money than peoples saftey.


Title: Re: a good question
Post by: gtnwood on August 15, 2005, 12:11:32 PM
why do we have to wear seat belts in cars but you dont have to wear a helmet on a motorcycle¿


Because people are stupid. They can give big tickets for you not wearing your seatbelt and say "We are just trying to save lifes." But yet it isnt a law to have to wear helmets on a motorcycle. What about their lifes? Even though I am young I have know people that have died from not wearing their helmets on motorcycles. I think the law makers care more about their money than peoples saftey.
What??????


Title: Re: a good question
Post by: SkyHighT100 on August 15, 2005, 12:20:44 PM
I dont think wearing seatbelts or helmets should be a law. It is peoples personal preference if they want to wear one or not.. they know the risks. Just another way of the goverment slowly taking away all of our freedoms.


Title: Re: a good question
Post by: Ida_Mann on August 15, 2005, 01:54:51 PM
I agree with you mostly Ash, I think that if someone is involved in a wreck and injured when not wearing a seat-belt, or a helmet on a motorcycle,,,,they should be charged a percentage, or the whole bit for the ambulance ride, and a certain amount to be determined for the police/fire involvement.

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Title: Re: a good question
Post by: Dr.Dirt on August 15, 2005, 02:53:10 PM
gtnwood, if you did not get what I was saying than I guess I must summarize it for you. Basically, what I was saying is that the lawmakers are stupid by saying that they are looking out for peoples life’s by making a law that would ticket someone for not wearing a seat belt but they don’t have a law for motorcyclists and helmets. So I don't really believe that they care about safety, I believe that they are really just trying to make money by writing tickets because they know a lot of people don’t wear seatbelts. Do you get what I'm saying now?


Title: Re: a good question
Post by: cutngrs on August 15, 2005, 04:21:25 PM
any one who rides a bike without a helmet is stupid  just my 2 cents ;D and law maker are the same :(


Title: Re: a good question
Post by: Dr.Dirt on August 15, 2005, 05:05:30 PM
any one who rides a bike without a helmet is stupid just my 2 cents ;D and law maker are the same :(

Well said, I just think it is really stupid when I see motorcyclists riding and they have their helmet on the helmet holder and not on their head.


Title: Re: a good question
Post by: CABLEGUY1 on August 15, 2005, 06:36:52 PM
I dont think wearing seatbelts or helmets should be a law. It is peoples personal preference if they want to wear one or not.. they know the risks. Just another way of the goverment slowly taking away all of our freedoms.
I think it should be a law to wear your seatbelt. That's the only thing that makes some ignorant parents buckle up there pre teen children. Trust me, if it wasn't a law you would see alot higher percentage of minors going thru windsheilds.


Title: Re: a good question
Post by: susieblazer on August 15, 2005, 11:36:54 PM

  I would rather use  seatbelt than end up through the windshield or pinned under flaming wreckage......also helmets are a good idea........I quit riding my motorcycle at 16 ( my parents sighed in relief) when I saw a guy( had a helmet on) from an accident, with brain matter all over the road.............


Title: Re: a good question
Post by: SkyHighT100 on August 16, 2005, 06:08:34 AM
Of course a law for children, lol. They arent old enough to make decisions on thier own.. I was mainly talking about adults. At 18+ you know the risks and are able to decide for yourself.


Title: Re: a good question
Post by: backinsaddle on August 16, 2005, 11:59:20 AM
If people don't want to wear helmets, it's dumb as dumb can be...but it's there life....only one problem, don't make me pay more insurance for the additional costs when they get seriously injured


Title: Re: a good question
Post by: enniehall on August 30, 2005, 12:28:38 PM
Motorcyclists do not represent any greater potential cost to taxpayers than a person driving a car or engaging in any other activity with a potential risk, be it skiing, horseback riding, or climbing the stairs in the house. Motorcycle accidents represent less than one percent of all vehicular accidents. Compared with automobile drivers, motorcyclists represent a minuscule part of all motor vehicle accident costs...Motorcyclists generally exhibit a high rate of voluntary compliance with use of helmets. Where helmet use is not required by law, rates of use typically range from 60 to 75 percent. Rates as high as 82 percent have been achieved with active promotion of voluntary use, and in no case does voluntary use fall below 50 to 55 percent, far exceeding the voluntary use rates for automobile seat belts, and comparing favorably with rates of compliance achieved with mandatory seatbelt use laws...Laws mandating helmet use at all times have no significant effect on the safety of motorcycling in general, which is evident by the following Michigan statistics:

Plus I believe that motorcycles and motor vehicles are in a completley different class therefore similar laws do not apply kind of like off-road vehicles and motor vehicles.

And if you'll bring up the question why is it legal for motorcyclist to ride with out a helmet you should also ask why itlegal for off road riders to go without wearing  helmets.  Granted we don't face the same dangers on the highways as a motorcyclist would we do still face many other obsticales such as other careless riders, large drops, trees so on and so on...It is rider discretion, you have the choice to protect your own life.


Title: Re: a good question
Post by: RAP04 on August 30, 2005, 03:32:06 PM
Another good question.

Why is it that Marijuana is illegal when there is not 1 known death related to smoking marijuana yet cigarrettes are legal and they kill millions.......


Title: Re: a good question
Post by: TRX350_On_The_Rack on August 30, 2005, 03:57:34 PM
Another good question.

Why is it that Marijuana is illegal when there is not 1 known death related to smoking marijuana yet cigarrettes are legal and they kill millions.......

Can't tax what naturally grows. :o


Title: Re: a good question
Post by: Old_School on August 30, 2005, 04:01:53 PM
I think if you're going 70 mph on a bike and you T-bone someone I don't think that a helmet is gonna help. You're pretty much screwed if you have any accident on a bike. That's the risk bikers take. Now cars there is a survivable space in an automobile to withstand a accident. How many bikes you see carrying passengers compared to cars? Cars are the vast majority. -Mark


Title: Re: a good question
Post by: Bigscrb15 on August 30, 2005, 04:55:29 PM
Another good question.

Why is it that Marijuana is illegal when there is not 1 known death related to smoking marijuana yet cigarrettes are legal and they kill millions.......

theres NO known deaths or just none that you heard about? I am sure someone has dies from smoking it, but not as may as cigs


Title: Re: a good question
Post by: Chuck_Norris on August 30, 2005, 08:40:30 PM
why do we have to wear seat belts in cars but you dont have to wear a helmet on a motorcycle¿
Why are there 10 hot dogs in an average  package and only 8 buns.. ;)


Title: Re: a good question
Post by: RAP04 on August 31, 2005, 09:59:59 AM
Another good question.

Why is it that Marijuana is illegal when there is not 1 known death related to smoking marijuana yet cigarrettes are legal and they kill millions.......

theres NO known deaths or just none that you heard about? I am sure someone has dies from smoking it, but not as may as cigs

 I did a 6 month study on it for my graduate degree so I think I know what I am talking about ace.


Title: Re: a good question
Post by: GSPKurt on August 31, 2005, 01:39:12 PM

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 I did a 6 month study on it for my graduate degree so I think I know what I am talking about ace.
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Lets be nice.


Title: Re: a good question
Post by: TRX350_On_The_Rack on August 31, 2005, 02:25:15 PM
Another good question.

Why is it that Marijuana is illegal when there is not 1 known death related to smoking marijuana yet cigarrettes are legal and they kill millions.......

theres NO known deaths or just none that you heard about? I am sure someone has dies from smoking it, but not as may as cigs

 I did a 6 month study on it for my graduate degree so I think I know what I am talking about ace.

You spent 6 months  8) :E :O 2:L :oo :J  :Z :king.gif

What school did you go to?

Man,  we need more smiles  :banghead.gif


Title: Re: a good question
Post by: RAP04 on August 31, 2005, 02:39:54 PM
Went to UF and it was a research study for a little magazine called high times.


Title: Re: a good question
Post by: TRX350_On_The_Rack on August 31, 2005, 03:09:26 PM
Got a buddy who lives 6 blocks from UF. Almost thinking of moving up there.


Title: Re: a good question
Post by: gery350 on August 31, 2005, 04:28:29 PM
why do we have to wear seat belts in cars but you dont have to wear a helmet on a motorcycle¿
Why are there 10 hot dogs in an average  package and only 8 buns.. ;)

hey you quoted bulletproof monk-movie

the answer is : "you dont always get what you want in life"-give or take a word or two,quoting the answer which was in the movie


Title: Re: a good question
Post by: TRX350_On_The_Rack on August 31, 2005, 04:33:01 PM
why do we have to wear seat belts in cars but you dont have to wear a helmet on a motorcycle¿
Why are there 10 hot dogs in an average  package and only 8 buns.. ;)

What is this "The Gallagher Show"?  ;D


Title: Re: a good question
Post by: gery350 on August 31, 2005, 04:45:36 PM
why do we have to wear seat belts in cars but you dont have to wear a helmet on a motorcycle¿
Why are there 10 hot dogs in an average  package and only 8 buns.. ;)

What is this "The Gallagher Show"?  ;D


did you know bees and dogs can smell fear- jerry mcguire


Title: Re: a good question
Post by: o4250 on August 31, 2005, 04:49:58 PM
kool


Title: Re: a good question
Post by: JustC1582 on September 27, 2005, 04:21:37 AM
SKYHighT100........   in response to your statement that seat belt laws are simply the government taking away more freedom. 

I can assume that you are a far left wing liberal and are still upset that Kerry lost the election.  Please consider what function the seat belt serves and how many lives would be lost if it were not worn.  I have personally  been a first responder and saw a man take his last breath because he wasn't belted and was slung around the inside of the car.


Title: Re: a good question
Post by: jwscroll on September 27, 2005, 06:35:20 AM
You guys don't know your left from your right so why bring that up , this was a thread about safety not politics. $10,000 in insurance gets you a no helmet chit, that makes it a personal preference thing not a majority rule thing thank God.


Title: Re: a good question
Post by: Honda250ex on September 27, 2005, 05:50:16 PM
what ever


Title: Re: a good question
Post by: Dr.Dirt on September 27, 2005, 05:53:29 PM
A good question eh? If a tree falls in the middle of a forest and an elf is somewhere in the vicinity of 3 1/2 miles does it make a sound??


Title: Re: a good question
Post by: trx#9 on September 27, 2005, 07:39:44 PM
The real reason is big business again. Insurance companies been lobbying for this for years. It saves them millions of dollars a year. both car and medical insurance co. save on hospital stays and major surgerys that get really expensive. I'm sure that number is cut down with everyone wearing set belts. So their you go, big business the American dream ::) ::) Gotta save money for the rich!!! Pretty soon they well make us wear a helmet for walking soon.