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Title: NITROUS...
Post by: Reefer650 on May 26, 2005, 09:26:49 AM
If i install nitrous do i have to change a lot of internals. Boondocker doesnt really have much literaure on the subject.


Title: Re: NITROUS...
Post by: bigb on May 26, 2005, 09:51:39 AM
my understanding is nitrous on a one cyl motor will melt the piston, i have no hands on experience though.


Title: Re: NITROUS...
Post by: Njoutlaw88 on May 26, 2005, 10:14:11 AM
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If i install nitrous do i have to change a lot of internals. Boondocker doesnt really have much literaure on the subject.



dont do it.


Title: Re: NITROUS...
Post by: Smoknbanshee on May 26, 2005, 10:40:01 AM
reefer....what kind of bike?  ds650?  if so, you need to pm cutngrs...he had a nitrous set up on his and it would absolutely scream...


Title: Re: NITROUS...
Post by: Chuck_Norris on May 26, 2005, 08:22:59 PM
the only reason that these system cause damage is if they are not tuned and or supported properly. Nitrous works very well when tuned properly,The main cause for something melting is running to lean. Speaking from automotive use I have a 300 shot cheater by NOS. the instruction for jetting are set up to run very fat. I am sure you have heard the expression "Lean is Mean". I am sure there is some relativeness
If you Change anything I would up  grade to a Good Forged piston and a set of Plasma Molly Rings.


Title: Re: NITROUS...
Post by: backinsaddle on May 26, 2005, 08:50:44 PM
Based on my research (not experience), the boondocker system is considered a "dry" system.  It is safe for modified or stock motors (with appropriate use).  A small plastic port is inserted into the airbox and the nitrous is injected here and naturally aspirated into the motor. Installation is as simple as a hole in the airbox or the boot between the airbox and carb (not including the mounting of bottle and other hardware).  I believe the only thing you may have to to do is rejet.  With a dry system you'll get more consistent increase throughout the powerband, and can use throughout the rpm range.

There are also wet systems, which often mount between the carb and head and require more installation work.  The nitrous is forced under pressure, resulting in bigger increases in power vs the dry systems, however it probably reduces reliability of a stock machine more quickly than the dry systems, especially if turned up too high.

http://www.boondockers.com/ has the installation instructions for a variety of machines.  It may give you more of the info you need for your machine.


Title: Re: NITROUS...
Post by: cain73 on May 28, 2005, 08:07:13 AM
Just slap a turbo on that bad boy and lit it rip ! or if you want speed there is an 800 kit for the DS that makes 86 HP and 78 lb ft of torque.... with numbers like that who needs NOS?


Title: Re: NITROUS...
Post by: Chuck_Norris on May 28, 2005, 04:10:11 PM
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Based on my research (not experience), the boondocker system is considered a "dry" system..

Unfortunately the dry system can be the problem, it is great for a system with proper fuel pressure, I like the wet system because of the additional fuel tuneabilty and the lessen chance of leaning out and going boom.  


Title: Re: NITROUS...
Post by: Chuck_Norris on May 28, 2005, 04:10:29 PM
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Based on my research (not experience), the boondocker system is considered a "dry" system..

Unfortunately the dry system can be the problem, it is great for a system with proper fuel pressure, I like the wet system because of the additional fuel tuneabilty and the lessen chance of leaning out and going boom.