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is the parking lot closed ? I heard it was closed ..... thx

It was still open yesterday, but the rumors are that it won't be open much longer. We have heard these rumors before and nothing ever happened, but this time everybody thinks it's for real.    Larry

Sounds like I need to go there again before this happens

I will drive up there on Friday afternoon around 5 PM to see if it's still open. I'll post on this thread and let you know. Larry

I rode the ONF on Thursday and last night on the way home around 8:30 PM I drove into the parking lot at 5A. It wasn't completely dark yet, but I didn't see any new "No Trespassing" signs or no new fencing.  It looked the same way as it always looks, so I would say that it will be opened this weekend. I won't be driving up there again this afternoon as I previously said.

Some day they probably will close this place, but I'm just going to enjoy it while it's here. I only live eight miles from the parking lot and if I hear of them closing it down, I will post on here.

Larry

thanks larry , just wanted to check to see if it was still open .... thax again

Looks like it won't be long till it's closed. Better enjoy it while you can! Larry


ATV trespassers an issue

One initial challenge to the development of the area near Deering Parkway in Scottsmoor will be dealing with the numerous all-terrain vehicles that now traverse the property, Brevard County Planning and Zoning Board Chairman Henry Minneboo said during a recent board meeting.

“There is a problem there,” Miami Corp. attorney Glenn Storch said. “Especially since they appear to be trespassing, and it’s dangerous. To be honest with you, from a liability standpoint, it’s massive.”

Storch said his company plans to put up fences and no-trespassing signs, with tow-away zones, “because you can’t have lawlessness like you have right now down there, and still expect to market this. I would love to find alternatives, but I just can’t have them trespassing in this area.”

At a separate meeting, Storch told Brevard County commissioners that the trespassers “are tearing up the environment and are making this a worthless area.”

He said his company would work with nearby landowners to preserve their access to their properties.

— Dave Berman, FLORIDA TODAY

It's NO rumor, my sources at BCSO say trespassing citations will be starting soon, before you see any of the signs or fences are in place. Arrested, will start after the signs and fences are in place. Everyone should know by now YOU ARE TRESPASSING at 5A. BCSO and VCSO will be coordinating enforcement at both ends of 5A.

http://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/local/2015/08/17/commercial-hotel-projects-scottsmoor-get-zoning-ok/31863349/ (http://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/local/2015/08/17/commercial-hotel-projects-scottsmoor-get-zoning-ok/31863349/)

Signs and fences have to be up and signs posted correctly to arrest and cit.    With the signs and fences absent they can issue trespass warnings with the authority of the property owner  and then if you return it's a chargeable offense.   Never the less its the beginning of the end!

It IS the end increased BCSO and VCSO are coming soon. If YOU can't prove YOU have any ownership and or permission from Miami Corp.........your knowingly trespassing.

Please read subsection in red.    The other section is trespass after warning in orange. 

810.09 Trespass on property other than structure or conveyance.—
(1)(a) A person who, without being authorized, licensed, or invited, willfully enters upon or remains in any property other than a structure or conveyance:
1. As to which notice against entering or remaining is given, either by actual communication to the offender or by posting, fencing, or cultivation as described in s. 810.011; or
2. If the property is the unenclosed curtilage of a dwelling and the offender enters or remains with the intent to commit an offense thereon, other than the offense of trespass,
commits the offense of trespass on property other than a structure or conveyance.
(b) As used in this section, the term “unenclosed curtilage” means the unenclosed land or grounds, and any outbuildings, that are directly and intimately adjacent to and connected with the dwelling and necessary, convenient, and habitually used in connection with that dwelling.
(2)(a) Except as provided in this subsection, trespass on property other than a structure or conveyance is a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
(b) If the offender defies an order to leave, personally communicated to the offender by the owner of the premises or by an authorized person, or if the offender willfully opens any door, fence, or gate or does any act that exposes animals, crops, or other property to waste, destruction, or freedom; unlawfully dumps litter on property; or trespasses on property other than a structure or conveyance, the offender commits a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.

Had another great day of riding at 5A yesterday. I almost didn't go because of all the stuff written on this thread, but figured, " what the heck". I'm retired and this is the only fun that I have. I was getting gas in Scottsmore on the way up and talked to a deputy who also was getting gas. He didn't know anything about 5A closing, but when I said that I hope they don't come in there someday and just start writing tickets, he said that they wouldn't do that without first putting up signs and fences. I hope that he's right. Larry