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Title: Money for a ATV park in south Florida????
Post by: Thunderdually on December 04, 2013, 04:04:47 PM
Apparently there is money for an ATV park in Collier County that hasn't been used. Don’t know if it’s true or not but check out this page and  give them a like and share it..  Been hearing a lot of complaints about not having a place to ride in south Florida.. NOW!! is the time to stand up and help or quit complaining..  


From their Face Book page...

This Page has been created to help bring awareness to the Collier County Residents regarding the settlement between Water Management and Collier County Commissioners to create an Off-Road Ride Facility. Approximately 7 years ago the residents of Collier County pushed the issue to have a facility that allowed off-road riding facility. Water Management settled with Collier County Commissioners for Three Million Dollars and that money is supposed to be used for the County to set up an ATV Off-Road Park. Collier County Commissioners have created an ATV Hock Committee to assist them in locating a parcel of property suitable for an atv park. This property can be leased, purchased or partnered with a private land owner to accommodate the need for the park. There are approximately 5 facilities that have been aggressively pursuing the Hock Committee and Collier County Commissioners to assist them in providing property for an off-road facility. As of today and many years later we still do not have a park to legally ride at. There have been many deaths due to not having a designated park to ride our off-road vehicles at. Why hasn’t the Commissioners partnered with one of the 5 facilities pursuing them to allow us ride? How much longer is this process going to take? Now is the time for you to stand up once again to ensure this money is used for its original designation, an Off-Road Ride Facility for the Collier County Residents. If the money is not spent on an off-road facility VERY SOON, the off-road riders may never see any of the money! That’s right; the residents CAN LOSE the money granted to them for an off-road park and that money will be used at the County’s discretion.

Please help us spread the word, PLEASE SHARE OUR PAGE, Please have your friends share the page as well, even if they do not ride they can still help bring awareness to the Fund that is about to be lost!


Title: Re: Money for a ATV park in south Florida????
Post by: zman03 on December 04, 2013, 08:26:58 PM
I have a current and valid lease :deal.gif on a property that was identified as the #1 :Fp site to do an ATV park (Opa-locka west) 320 acreas in The counties feasibility study done by Miami dade county parks and rec dept.   $3million will build alotta trails  (My plan would be about 1/2 a million for the fees and permitting but would be awesome considering the current options).  I am meeting with parks and rec, the deputy major, on Dec 11 5th floor parks dept between 3-4 pm to discuss the plan.  this place would serve as a regional facility and has all the necessary components needed to achieve its developement. and it TAKES ALOT!! :lecture.gif
    :deal.gif           :dunno.gif   so who will support this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   contact me to help out and get involved!!!!            :lecture.gif  think about the concept !!   "Develope an atv park, and save an area from developement!!!"  it would look just like a mini CROOM!!!   Located on HWY US 27 & Krome AVE 


Title: Re: Money for a ATV park in south Florida????
Post by: patches206 on December 04, 2013, 09:36:01 PM
I wish you luck and I hope it happens!


Title: Re: Money for a ATV park in south Florida????
Post by: Florida Tracks and Trails on December 05, 2013, 09:37:36 AM
Thunderdually, thanks for posting this up!  We are one of the facilities pursuing the money to provide an ATV park for the Collier County Residents.  Currently the committee has received approval to go outside of the county to look for land as they have found that three million does not get you a lot.  If they partner with a facility that is already set up based on their needs the money will go a lot further for them.

Studies they did determined that three million dollars barely purchased land much less fees associated with making the park. 


Title: Re: Money for a ATV park in south Florida????
Post by: zman03 on December 05, 2013, 07:48:16 PM
the site in Miami-Dade county (Opa-locka west) is already owned by the county and does not need to be purchased!!!  permitting is required!!   and is required anywhere on any piece of land!!   Miami-dade county has more registered off-road vehicles than any other county in the entire state of Florida. South Florida has been identified by the states off highway vehicle committee as the area with the highest critical need for an off-road vehicle park.


Title: Re: Money for a ATV park in south Florida????
Post by: Florida Tracks and Trails on December 06, 2013, 10:06:05 AM
the site in Miami-Dade county (Opa-locka west) is already owned by the county and does not need to be purchased!!!  permitting is required!!   and is required anywhere on any piece of land!!   Miami-dade county has more registered off-road vehicles than any other county in the entire state of Florida. South Florida has been identified by the states off highway vehicle committee as the area with the highest critical need for an off-road vehicle park.

Zman, this post is about Collier County, not South East Florida.  They are not going to partner with a county nearly 2 hours away  ;)


Title: Re: Money for a ATV park in south Florida????
Post by: zman03 on December 06, 2013, 04:52:16 PM
Last time I checked FT& T was not in collier county either!! :lecture.gif     


Title: Re: Money for a ATV park in south Florida????
Post by: Florida Tracks and Trails on December 06, 2013, 04:57:55 PM
Yes you are right, we are only half the time to our place than yours AND..... they came to us to partner....  SO............................. :deal.gif


Title: Re: Money for a ATV park in south Florida????
Post by: zman03 on December 06, 2013, 06:19:48 PM
stick to the facts!!   in your county you have how many registered ohv's?   and in Miami there are 25000+   either way   sounds like you guys are askin for food stamps and welfare!   lets just hope we dont keep hearing the same story "  announcement coming very soon",   and its been what?  2 years now?    


Title: Re: Money for a ATV park in south Florida????
Post by: AintSkeered on December 06, 2013, 06:21:02 PM
And, patrons of FT&L will demonstrate greater appreciation, respect and responsibility for that environment than we'd observe in the cesspool of southeast FL!


Title: Re: Money for a ATV park in south Florida????
Post by: zman03 on December 06, 2013, 06:30:25 PM
public money for a private owned for profit business!!  corruption happens even on the west coast!!    what a scam if this is allowed!!     


Title: Re: Money for a ATV park in south Florida????
Post by: zman03 on December 06, 2013, 06:35:17 PM
why stop there though!!   why not apply for a grant from the RTP (recreational trails program)  or through yamahatrails.org   or through the division of forestry you can get $$$ from the T. Mark Scmitt act           


Title: Re: Money for a ATV park in south Florida????
Post by: AintSkeered on December 06, 2013, 06:38:44 PM
ATVers in southeast Fl will appreciate, respect and support an atv park even less than they've done at Holeylands, other public parks, private stadiums and sports teams. They're only interested when one of those teams or venues is popular, like the Heat. Those federal dollars you mentioned have been used to IMPROVE trail riding @ ONF. But, a mutant group of ATVers believe ONF is worse for it only because they're careless, reckless and irresponsible behavior can now be restricted and/or punished by fines.


Title: Re: Money for a ATV park in south Florida????
Post by: jayman on December 06, 2013, 06:42:23 PM
Jose Camps you are such a moron I logged out of the other account to post this while at dinner....  you have no friggen clue what the partnership is between the county and 4 possible facilities.  Talk about hearing opening soon.... you've talked about a so called park from you as long as I can remember and you WILL NEVER HAVE ONE!  As for FTT and hearing about them opening you might not ever have to worry about them as you are probably not welcomed there!


Title: Re: Money for a ATV park in south Florida????
Post by: patches206 on December 06, 2013, 06:44:37 PM
Zman why does Government money to a private enterprise surprise you.   That corruption is occurring on a massive scale, just take NFL stadiums for example.


Title: Re: Money for a ATV park in south Florida????
Post by: zman03 on December 06, 2013, 06:56:23 PM
 :'(    my heart wheeps!!


Title: Re: Money for a ATV park in south Florida????
Post by: Florida Tracks and Trails on December 06, 2013, 08:31:38 PM
And we are back lol  ;D 

Let's get the post back on topic  ???  This committee has been appointed to find land to purchase, lease or "PARTNER" with a private land owner.


Title: Re: Money for a ATV park in south Florida????
Post by: zman03 on December 06, 2013, 09:00:44 PM
the original South florida site was at the Dade-Collier transition airport (40 miles west of krome ave along tamiami trail)   that plan was scrapped by numerous agencies. it was initially a partnership between dade and collier county since they share the big cypress site.  if the $ is given to FT&T then it should be done with transparency and in a way that the ATV users will benefit (reduced riding fees,etc.)  after all this is $ that was originally part of a settlement out of court awarded to the county that got shafted by south florida water management. and ultimately the off roaders were the ones that got the short end of the stick.  the money should in NO WAY go to anything other than OHV related use if given to FT&T. 


Title: Re: Money for a ATV park in south Florida????
Post by: Florida Tracks and Trails on December 06, 2013, 09:04:45 PM
the original South florida site was at the Dade-Collier transition airport (40 miles west of krome ave along tamiami trail)   that plan was scrapped by numerous agencies. it was initially a partnership between dade and collier county since they share the big cypress site.  if the $ is given to FT&T then it should be done with transparency and in a way that the ATV users will benefit (reduced riding fees,etc.)  after all this is $ that was originally part of a settlement out of court awarded to the county that got shafted by south florida water management. and ultimately the off roaders were the ones that got the short end of the stick.  the money should in NO WAY go to anything other than OHV related use if given to FT&T. 

There is a thing called the Sunshine Law.... you should look into it


The money will be used ONLY FOR Collier County Residents to provide them a safe environment to ride.  There are 4 (NOT 1) facilities that  are possible partners for COllier County.  All 4 Facilities have a RFP to show how the money will be best used FOR THE COLLIER COUNTY Residents. 


Title: Re: Money for a ATV park in south Florida????
Post by: zman03 on December 06, 2013, 09:09:59 PM
it would have been helpful Geno if you would of started out by saying this to begin with :Clap.gif    now this is sounding way better and  like something people will be willing to support.  thank you for the clarification :bow.gif


Title: Re: Money for a ATV park in south Florida????
Post by: Thunderdually on December 06, 2013, 09:45:51 PM
WOW!!!   If i would have know that this was going to turn into a name calling fest i would never have posted it...  Can't any one discuss any thing any more with out turning to bitching and name calling??? 


Title: Re: Money for a ATV park in south Florida????
Post by: Florida Tracks and Trails on December 06, 2013, 09:51:59 PM
I was looking for the like button..... been too long since I was on this forum  :)


Title: Re: Money for a ATV park in south Florida????
Post by: patches206 on December 06, 2013, 09:57:24 PM
Thunder this is some great %$^& best entertainment I have seen on her since new member.

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Title: Re: Money for a ATV park in south Florida????
Post by: zman03 on December 06, 2013, 10:13:08 PM
so back to the topic :deal.gif   dec10th the committee and the collier commissioners meet to discuss the item,   who are the other people being considered for the money to be dispersed too?  what is the time line for this to happen?


Title: Re: Money for a ATV park in south Florida????
Post by: zman03 on December 10, 2013, 10:22:31 AM
is anyone going to this meeting?  if anyone does attend , can you fill us in on the details? :-\


Title: Re: Money for a ATV park in south Florida????
Post by: Thunderdually on December 10, 2013, 03:34:34 PM
Go here https://www.facebook.com/pages/Collier-County-ATV-and-Dirt-Bike-Riding-Facility/514167875348051 (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Collier-County-ATV-and-Dirt-Bike-Riding-Facility/514167875348051)  They will probably have information about the meeting. While your there give then a like and share their information.


Title: Re: Money for a ATV park in south Florida????
Post by: Anoriginal on December 10, 2013, 08:04:45 PM
All of the crap posted above is exactly why we'll never get another public riding area. Stupidity, ignorance and immaturity personified.


Title: Re: Money for a ATV park in south Florida????
Post by: greenmachine on December 10, 2013, 08:21:42 PM
is anyone going to this meeting?  if anyone does attend , can you fill us in on the details? :-\
Why don't you go and then you can get your answers that you seem to believe are owed to you.