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Title: Project King Quad
Post by: OPowersports on November 06, 2010, 06:29:29 PM
Well I was getting bored with the stock King Quad and its lack of power compared to the Brute Force and Can Am's so I decided to make some changes. Well the belt was coming apart so I started there. While changing the belt I machined the front moving sheave 1mm narrower in addition to the 2mm in shims I already had in place. This mod allows the belt to ride deeper in the front Pulleys for a lower gear ratio. I also lightened the rollers from the factory 22 grams down to 20 grams. This mod changes the RPM at which the front pulley pinches the belt forcing it to ride higher in the sheaves as rpm increases.

I put it all back together and boy what a difference. Across the front lawn at work punched it (high range) bike pulled the wheels for a good 30 ft without using any body english. Low range stood the bike straight up unless I hugged the handle bars.

Next will be the addition of exhaust and a VDI ecu.


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: Paul_S on November 06, 2010, 06:37:29 PM
Well I was getting bored with the stock King Quad and its lack of power compared to the Brute Force and Can Am's so I decided to make some changes. Well the belt was coming apart so I started there. While changing the belt I machined the front moving sheave 1mm narrower in addition to the 2mm in shims I already had in place. This mod allows the belt to ride deeper in the front Pulleys for a lower gear ratio. I also lightened the rollers from the factory 22 grams down to 20 grams. This mod changes the RPM at which the front pulley pinches the belt forcing it to ride higher in the sheaves as rpm increases.

I put it all back together and boy what a difference. Across the front lawn at work punched it (high range) bike pulled the wheels for a good 30 ft without using any body english. Low range stood the bike straight up unless I hugged the handle bars.

Next will be the addition of exhaust and a VDI ecu.

Very cool sir


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: rzr ridr on November 06, 2010, 06:57:31 PM
Would this work on the rzr Opowersports? ;D


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: OPowersports on November 06, 2010, 07:48:15 PM
Would this work on the rzr Opowersports? ;D
Possibly, I would have to look at the RZR drive system to know for sure.


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: BigRickRollin on November 06, 2010, 08:05:24 PM
That Polaris clutch system is ALL together different from the Zuki clutch Matt, and I mean TOTALLY different. There are weights and springs in the polaris clutch that get changed out in a clutch kit, aside from any wet clutch springs.....


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: rzr ridr on November 07, 2010, 11:11:21 AM
Ive heard about removing a washer from the clutch but im to skeerd to mess with it :-\ :-\ ??? at least now its running perty good ;D ;D ;D just for some reason I wanna go faster :dunno.gif I think


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: OPowersports on November 08, 2010, 09:36:40 AM
Be careful bro you could end up like this guy if you go much faster..


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: Paul_S on November 08, 2010, 09:52:11 AM
LOL Herschel WANTS to be that guy.


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: rzr ridr on November 08, 2010, 10:31:20 AM
SAWEEET looks like some serious air your right Paul don't that look fuunn ;D ;D ;D I was sceerd to scroll down I thought he was gonna be totaled or something ???


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: Johnny Rotten on November 08, 2010, 11:05:49 AM
Ive heard about removing a washer from the clutch but im to skeerd to mess with it :-\ :-\ ??? at least now its running perty good ;D ;D ;D just for some reason I wanna go faster :dunno.gif I think

Be skeered no more... You have a RZR-S. It doesn't have the spacer on the clutch, just the base RZR did at that time. It just lets the belt ride higher on the pulley to get extra top speed. The stock RZR does 55 to 56 MPH with the spacer and 63 without it. Your RZR-S should already do 63MPH because it should not have this spacer.



Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: rzr ridr on November 08, 2010, 11:17:11 AM
Thanks johnny :ThumbsUp.gif I must have a problem because 60 is all I can get then it hits the rev limiter >:( >:( I put a fmf exhaust a fuel controller that may not be dialed in perfect and a K&N air filter and still 60 is all I can get  :dunno.gif was seriously thinking about going back to stock ??? :-\


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: Johnny Rotten on November 08, 2010, 11:33:51 AM
Go with the clutch kit first. Price is not that bad for springs and weights. It will help to get that power to the ground.  That stock clutch system is more than likely having some belt slippage. 

My brother-in-law has the same problem. Looney tune exhaust, tuner, and breather, but the stock clutch just can't get it to the ground efficiently.  The thing is he has the spring and weights but is too chicken to mess with the clutches and pulleys... 

As soon as I get some money back in my pockets I'll be doing the same... ;D


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: rzr ridr on November 08, 2010, 12:02:40 PM
Thanks bro I was looking at one that's adjustable for about 300 bucks just gotta do it I guess ;D ;D ;D when you gonna come to the plex and rip it up ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: Baileygunns on November 08, 2010, 12:05:35 PM
Wow... Way to steal some ones build thread.


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: rzr ridr on November 08, 2010, 12:12:11 PM
Wow... Way to steal some ones build thread.
No one stole anything I ask him a question and he answered me!!!! but still sorry Opowersports ???


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: Paul_S on November 08, 2010, 01:15:22 PM
Wow... Way to steal some ones build thread.

No biggie, Opowersports will be cool with it  ;D were all friends here  8)


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: john450r on November 08, 2010, 02:26:55 PM
Cant wait to see how it dose with the exhaust and new ecu matt


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: greenmachine on November 08, 2010, 07:28:42 PM
sounds like the mods we do on the racing mini quads....lol same principle with a belt driven variator/clutch system. Our rollers are less than 4g each though


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: OPowersports on November 08, 2010, 09:28:49 PM
Wow... Way to steal some ones build thread.

No biggie, Opowersports will be cool with it  ;D were all friends here  8)
Exactly!


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: OPowersports on November 08, 2010, 10:04:23 PM
Wow... Way to steal some ones build thread.
No one stole anything I ask him a question and he answered me!!!! but still sorry Opowersports ???
Its all good, Im not worried about it.  ;)


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: OPowersports on November 08, 2010, 10:05:02 PM
Cant wait to see how it dose with the exhaust and new ecu matt
Looking forward to it myself!  ;D


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: Paul_S on November 08, 2010, 10:07:38 PM
Cant wait to see how it dose with the exhaust and new ecu matt
Looking forward to it myself!  ;D

Hopefully it will have a little more power...sick of towing you out of everything,  :P


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: Johnny Rotten on November 09, 2010, 10:07:37 AM
Thanks bro I was looking at one that's adjustable for about 300 bucks just gotta do it I guess ;D ;D ;D when you gonna come to the plex and rip it up ;D ;D ;D

Now that Opowersport is okay with it... ;)

It's a 5 1/2 hour drive, one way, and I have minimal cash flow coming in right now.  Luckily I did a lot of saving when times were good... ViO  Anyway...

One day I'll start making these trips.  Dirty foot is on the agenda some time in the future too.


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: rzr ridr on November 09, 2010, 10:30:00 AM
HAHA dude if you havent been to the motoplex please make the trip it will be worth the ride just for the park alone not to mention the AWESOME owner and incredible staff and the people that go there wow you will love it I guarantee it :ThumbsUp.gif that's a sweet looking rzr you got it looks like it will eat a track up ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: OPowersports on November 13, 2010, 07:20:39 PM
Cant wait to see how it dose with the exhaust and new ecu matt
Looking forward to it myself!  ;D

Hopefully it will have a little more power...sick of towing you out of everything,  :P
Umm I believe my bike was the only bike not towed out at Stick Bottom and I know I was the one towing you out of the ditch area near the drag strip ( remember you went in first got stuck, i went in right behind you drove around your sorry stuck piece of machinery rode it to the end then came back and rescued you from what was sure to be a catastrophic failure.) lol


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: OPowersports on November 13, 2010, 07:22:51 PM
Bike is about 35~40% torn apart. Going through everything to make sure it stays sealed up, relocating the battery, considering moving the radiator up top. Did a coolant system flush as well.


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: Paul_S on November 13, 2010, 07:36:42 PM
I suggest you relocate the radiator, then let me ride it over some uneven terrain  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: OPowersports on November 13, 2010, 09:31:23 PM
I suggest you relocate the radiator, then let me ride it over some uneven terrain  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
You are quite the ballerina!  ;D


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: Andy9933 on November 13, 2010, 11:14:02 PM
Cant wait to see how it dose with the exhaust and new ecu matt
Looking forward to it myself!  ;D

Hopefully it will have a little more power...sick of towing you out of everything,  :P
Umm I believe my bike was the only bike not towed out at Stick Bottom and I know I was the one towing you out of the ditch area near the drag strip ( remember you went in first got stuck, i went in right behind you drove around your sorry stuck piece of machinery rode it to the end then came back and rescued you from what was sure to be a catastrophic failure.) lol

I was there,wasn't that the first mud hole paul went in after you fixed it.Lol


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: Paul_S on November 14, 2010, 07:02:45 AM
Cant wait to see how it dose with the exhaust and new ecu matt
Looking forward to it myself!  ;D

Hopefully it will have a little more power...sick of towing you out of everything,  :P
Umm I believe my bike was the only bike not towed out at Stick Bottom and I know I was the one towing you out of the ditch area near the drag strip ( remember you went in first got stuck, i went in right behind you drove around your sorry stuck piece of machinery rode it to the end then came back and rescued you from what was sure to be a catastrophic failure.) lol

I was there,wasn't that the first mud hole paul went in after you fixed it.Lol

No need to share this information people  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: OPowersports on November 20, 2010, 06:23:19 PM
New battery mount and location.


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: OPowersports on November 20, 2010, 06:24:54 PM
Battery was moved to make a better mounting option for the new programmable ECU.


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: Paul_S on November 20, 2010, 07:20:49 PM
Nice job sir  8)


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: OPowersports on November 20, 2010, 09:56:38 PM
Nice job sir  8)
Trying to get it ready in time for the next jad mud series.


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: patches206 on November 21, 2010, 08:26:34 PM
Nice work.


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: john450r on November 22, 2010, 08:46:58 AM
Lookin good


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: OPowersports on November 26, 2010, 06:19:31 PM
Made the mount for the ECU today.


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: OPowersports on November 26, 2010, 06:20:05 PM
Shown with the ECU mounted.


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: OPowersports on November 27, 2010, 04:43:53 PM
Made a nice aluminum coolant expansion tank and ditched the old plastic one.


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: OPowersports on November 27, 2010, 04:46:47 PM
New Fuel injector on the Right old on the left. New injector (For a M109R Boulevard 1800 ) is good for 4 HP....


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: OPowersports on December 04, 2010, 07:03:23 PM
Worked on Racking the Radiator. Made a bracket/brush guard.


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: OPowersports on December 04, 2010, 07:04:08 PM
.....


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: Paul_S on December 04, 2010, 07:33:16 PM
Very cool


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: dgt714 on December 04, 2010, 08:05:46 PM
Nice job sir  8)
Trying to get it ready in time for the next jad mud series.
Here is a link to the next jad series,   http://www.just-add-dirt.com/JAD_Mud.pdf (http://www.just-add-dirt.com/JAD_Mud.pdf)      This should be better than the last series.


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: Shawn on December 06, 2010, 06:16:05 AM
You have some very exspensive toys to play with, and im not talking about your quad! That is masterful pimp work right there ;)


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: john450r on December 06, 2010, 08:12:47 AM
Looking good!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: Paul_S on December 06, 2010, 08:17:07 AM
Just curious why you are wasting all that fine engineering work on a Suzuki???

Just saying  ;)


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: OPowersports on December 06, 2010, 07:32:01 PM
Just curious why you are wasting all that fine engineering work on a Suzuki???

Just saying  ;)
What make of bike should I be spending all the engineering work on?


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: Paul_S on December 06, 2010, 07:36:40 PM
Just curious why you are wasting all that fine engineering work on a Suzuki???

Just saying  ;)
What make of bike should I be spending all the engineering work on?

Ummm, I'd like to say a pretty Green Arctic Cat, but that one has already been engineered by your good self.


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: OPowersports on December 06, 2010, 07:52:56 PM
Just curious why you are wasting all that fine engineering work on a Suzuki???

Just saying  ;)
What make of bike should I be spending all the engineering work on?

Ummm, I'd like to say a pretty Green Arctic Cat, but that one has already been engineered by your good self.
It would stand to reason that if your Outlaw is a KTM with Polaris plastics then the Green Machine is a Suzuki with Arctic Cat plastics??  ;)


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: Paul_S on December 06, 2010, 08:05:21 PM
Just curious why you are wasting all that fine engineering work on a Suzuki???

Just saying  ;)
What make of bike should I be spending all the engineering work on?

Ummm, I'd like to say a pretty Green Arctic Cat, but that one has already been engineered by your good self.
It would stand to reason that if your Outlaw is a KTM with Polaris plastics then the Green Machine is a Suzuki with Arctic Cat plastics??  ;)

Yeah, I was kinda thinking that one was going to come back and bite me in da azz, when I was posting it earlier.


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: OPowersports on December 07, 2010, 08:01:13 PM
Well 27 days later and my HMF Pipe is here. I ordered the XL and got the plain Swamp Series but at this point I am glad I got anything...Looks like the tag is on the correct way. Hope installation goes easy. If you ever think about ordering from Cloud Powersports think again they have the slowest and lousiest service ever!


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: OPowersports on December 11, 2010, 06:57:08 PM
vvvvvrrrrrrroooooooommmmmmmmmm!!!!!!


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: rzr ridr on December 11, 2010, 07:23:14 PM
LMAO OP vroomvroom rolback1 you sure do nice work man :ThumbsUp.gif


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: OPowersports on December 12, 2010, 03:11:52 PM
New view from the front of the King!


Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: OPowersports on December 12, 2010, 03:12:39 PM
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Title: Re: Project King Quad
Post by: OPowersports on December 12, 2010, 03:14:58 PM
View of the Butt..