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Looks like rain again this weekend.

Im heading to Orlando Speedworld for test and tune tonight.
My drag racing season starts Feb. 27th.

    Of course it's going to rain Mr. Negative. Not like you were coming too Jasper too race FT anyways.  "Looks like rain again this weekend."    :dunno.gif  You sound just like my Dad, the glass is always half empty.

Thats telling him Scott. Going in a stright line........how boring :)

 And he said that he got bored racing flat track!  8) LOL

HeHe  your funny! rolback1

Hey Donnie
     We do wish you much success in your straight line drag'n thingy....... Donnie & drag'n all in the same sentence does leave you wide open for alot of teasing. Do you wear a dress when you drag?  rolback1

WJ

Yeah baby!  tight mini skirt and 6 inch pumps. Every mans dream
Still looking at the weather. Want to ride my honda with the new motor bad.
Had it out at TB one time ran good but the track was crapp.

THAT IS SOO SCARRY!!!!!!!

This went out on the e mail list last night

Good Evening All
       The rain weather once again is not looking favorable for this Saturdays race. We are watching the weather reports and will be in close contact with the track owner starting tomorrow. Please watch your e mail closely and message boards if you visit them. In addition, you may call any of the three members of the SDTA to confirm.

As we say….”CALL BEFORE YOU HAUL”

Sincerely
Ward Jones

Good Morning All

     Once again I regret to inform you that today’s race at Cross Roads Motorplex in Jasper, Fl is postponed until next Saturday due to rain. It is currently raining hard at the facility and even if it quit now, it would be late into the night with only the outside half of the track (if dried enough) would be available as a racing surface. Race has been rescheduled for Saturday, February 6th. Same times will apply and a subsequent e mail will go out during the week.

Regretfully
Ward Jones
SDTA






Good Evening

      We are still praying that the rain will be light and not ruin our race day. ……Marti & Jay….please put in an extra word for us for minimal rain. The weather forecast has improved and gets much better after 9 am in the morning. It will all depend on how much rain the track gets during the early am hours. As of this email. There has been no rain at the track. Lets all hope it by passes Cross Roads Motorplex. Shawn, Ray & myself will be up early checking with the track owner for a morning update. Please pay close attention to your e mails and message boards. Feel free to call any of us listed below…… If the rain is light…..it will make for an awesome evening of racing.

Sincerely
Ward Jones
SDTA – Part Time Weather Man

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updated 1-30-10 8:30 am

Good Morning All

     Once again I regret to inform you that today’s race at Cross Roads Motorplex in Jasper, Fl is postponed until next Saturday due to rain. It is currently raining hard at the facility and even if it quit now, it would be late into the night with only the outside half of the track (if dried enough) would be available as a racing surface. Race has been rescheduled for Saturday, February 6th. Same times will apply and a subsequent e mail will go out during the week.

Regretfully
Ward Jones
SDTA

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    I guess the radar forecast I'm looking at is all wrong. I thought Jasper was a real racing facility that could handle a little rain. Guess not.
    Well, my RV is all packed so I guess I'm taking to family camping now. No sense in wasting all that effort. Good luck next week, I'm not changing anymore plans so I will not make it on the 6th. So that will be three less quads, not like that many show up anyways.  :}} :T ViO

Be nice Scott. Or we will put you in time out  ;)

   
I fell like I am already, I think we all are :ouch.gif

We are sitting out here with two open class quads track and skys are great. Have pictures of it I'll post when we get back. Good job jumping the gun and even better waiting til people are on the road to announce canceled.IMG_0184.JPG

Cosmo:
Sorry you did not get the word or make the call prior to making the drive, as promoters of the races we have to make decisions based on weather and communication with the track owner, we waited until 8:00 this A.M. to make the decision and Ward posted it on this same thread at 8:31. It is also listed on the flyers to call before you haul and there is 3 different phone #'s on there. The track owner and I had to make a decision early this A.M. because just like your self there are other people that have to drive long distances to get to Jasper. Flat Track racing is very sensitive to rain and most tracks can not tolerate very much rainfall and still be raced on in the same day. Is this your first time racing?

Again I apologize you did not get the word, are you on the email list for info? If not please send your email address so we can add you to avoid this from happening again.

Shawn

Good job SDTA :ThumbsUp.gif   The forecast I was looking at only called for less then a 1/4" of rain (AOL Weather) which is what we got. Jasper could of took that :dunno.gif.  Call before you haul is great advice, but some people have to leave earlier than others. Just saying.  I felt like it could have been a great night of racing, but that is all hearsay now! Oh well, there is always another weekend for dissipointment. You all can call me MR. NEGITIVE now :no  Its all good though.....LOL

It is becoming quite apparent that you quad guys are completely clueless about racing Flat Track. The actual recorded rainfall for the last 24hrs from Weather.com shows .65 inches, I will convert that for you so it is easier to understand .65 is the same as .15 more than 1/2" which happens to be double the amount of 1/4" as you have advised. We called this race at 8:31 this morning and unless you live 6.5hrs away since the gates did not open until 3:00 then no one should of left there home without checking the forum or calling one of the 3 phone numbers listed on every flyer for every race.

You may have "felt" like it could of been a great night of racing but you did not have the discussion with the track owner at 8:00A.M. today when he advised that the track was still not fully recovered from the rains that happened last wkend and earlier this wk. The SDTA DOES NOT OWN THE RACETRACK, we are at the direction and advise of the track owners as to if and when the races will happen.

The comments you have posted today are uncalled for and quite immature to say the least which is the opposite of most of your post from earlier this wk when I thought you were helping the SDTA by encouraging other quad riders to show up. Are you with us or against us?

Shawn

I think everyone is getting impatient with Mother nature's lack of cooperation. It was beautiful ALL week for WORK..... :K.   I am ready to get out there and blow off the rust, but here's hoping to a nice clear and if we are lucky relatively warm next saturday for some fun racing  :T.

Derek's crank and Dave (Ware)'s engine parts are still not back from the crank shop, so hopefully that will be soon that they are back out on the track too... :ThumbsUp.gif

Hey Shawn, no need to explain. The complainers are either new to racing on clay (it is not dirt) or they just want to complain. When we were racing we understood that it was crazy to think that just because we went to the track that no matter what we were going to race! We went to Eastbay,Jasper,Valdosta, and Thunder Bowl and knew that it all depended on the weather. Good luck to you all.  Randy

    Wow, you can do math. I understand all of what you said. And I do want to help the sport. I got to much time and money wrapped up in my quads to not continue with it. And as far as the 6.5 hour drive, it is less then 4 hours for me. I had plans of leaving my house by 9am so I could set up my RV to spend the night. Like I told you earlier, I wanted to talk to you about what you needed for your track dragger. I was packed and ready to go, waiting for Ward's email. I was not getting on the road until I knew for sure we were racing.
    
    As far as my post today, it got my point across. Its good how you protect the SDTA, but wow! it is so easy to get you fired up.  I mean no harm to the sport, I just like stirring the pot a little bit. It gets people motivated. And yes, it may be immature but that's just me :X I have been called worst.  Key board racing, got to love it

   By the way, I have a couple 55gal drums if they would work better and one piece of rebarb about about 15ft. let me know.  

It is becoming quite apparent that you quad guys are completely clueless about racing Flat Track. The actual recorded rainfall for the last 24hrs from Weather.com shows .65 inches, I will convert that for you so it is easier to understand .65 is the same as .15 more than 1/2" which happens to be double the amount of 1/4" as you have advised. We called this race at 8:31 this morning and unless you live 6.5hrs away since the gates did not open until 3:00 then no one should of left there home without checking the forum or calling one of the 3 phone numbers listed on every flyer for every race.


The comments you have posted today are uncalled for and quite immature to say the least which is the opposite of most of your post from earlier this wk when I thought you were helping the SDTA by encouraging other quad riders to show up. Are you with us or against us?

Shawn

Shawn, I believe you should take care who you lump in to a group of who you call clueless! thats completely uncalled for.
I don't 100% agree with the grumbling,but do understand the frustration!
I didn't call Wade to check out how much rain they actually received,but I hope the call to postpone was warranted !!
Everyone need to get over all the pissing and moaning,and just get set for the next race,WHENEVER it is !!



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   I admit there is alot of pissing and moaning, and it is from the frustration of just wanting to race. Like I said before we can not control the weather. Just like everyone else, the bottom line is we want to race. I don't mean to bring any other quad riders into my comments, that is not my intention. I represent myself and the people who arrive with me at the track and no one else. But we are all flat track racers and should not be put into groups or talked down too.

 "you quad guys are completely clueless about racing Flat Track"
 
 "I will convert that for you so it is easier to understand"

Sorry I was slow to understand the post the first time, I was thinking about what time I had to catch the short bus on Monday. My bad!

 Shawn, you do not know me, and I do not know you. So I think it is safe to say we both need to watch what we say and how we say it.  I will do everything within my power to help this sport grow. The pissing and moaning is going to happen, its only natural considering our start to the season. I can only imagine what Ward was feeling when he had to send out that email. You guys are trying to give us a race season and mother nature is not allowing it. We all understand. The complaining is not personal, but your comments could be taken that way.  "The comments you have posted today are uncalled for and quite immature to say the least"   If thats the way you see it, so be it. Just poking fun at a bad situation.  
  
To all the Flat Track and TT racers out there and SDTA,
  I will do my best to cut down on the negativity that we have been experiencing lately. It is completely from the same frustration that we all are having. I do look forward to racing with all of you and can not wait for the feeling of being back out on the track. Its just got to wait until Feb. 20th.

                                  Sincerely,
                                         Scott Gulley #421

   P.S   I'm very used to racing on clay. :drive.gif
                                        
 

 
 

Good Morning My Friends......and I hope & think that is true
     Sitting here early this morning looking at "our" and "our" means everyone's....message board. I sit thinking how did we get to this place with the sharp words being said. A misunderstanding here, frustration there, something said in fun or a joke but not taken that way, words meant to insult and words of retaliation to same. Not a fun or enjoyable place to be. I would like to challenge all of us including myself and ask ourselves if we couldn t have chosen our words a little better. I am of the opinion that all of us could have. E mails & message boards all get misinterpreted in the beginning and then escalate to something else........ I commend Scott and would like to include myself with him in his pledge to get our energy directed back in the right direction. Please remember, when you see my e mails and message boards notices, I am trying to get the best information I/we know...... to you. Sometimes we (SDTA) are the ones that make the decisions........sometimes we are only the messenger........and sometimes..... we may get it wrong. It is a not our intent.

Our intent is our mission statement
MISSION STATEMENT:
Our goal is to provide a safe, consistent and exciting race environment that the fans, racers and their families will enjoy and be proud to be a part of.

THANK YOU
and
ENJOY THE RACING!!

Sincerely
Ward Jones
#66Q
SDTA
Vintage Class
Racer

You quad guys=Cosmo & Gulley
I/we= Shawn, Ray & Ward

Do I take these comments & complaining personal? Yes I/we do as it is no one else but I/we that is doing the work to make these races happen. You guys have no idea how muck work it takes to organize, promote & schedule these races that are for you!!

When you get on here and complain & piss & moan it does nothing more than blow the wind out of our sails, we call each other and ask "why do we do this again" it would be refreshing for some of you to actually appreciate what we have accomplished in short period of time and what we have planned for the coming yr but that does not happen.

Here is a perfect example of what I mean, I spent 5hrs yesterday and my own $$ buying the supplies needed to build the track drag so T-Bowl will at least stand a chance to have a good racing surface the next time we race there which is only 20days from now. The implement is not a Engineering marvel nor did it take an enormous amount of time or $$ but none of you even took the time to post under the pictures & header to thank me or the SDTA for spending time to make the track that YOU race on better, but you have plenty of time to again question our decision to call the race.

Flat Track racing is very sensitive to weather/rain which means we have to make decisions based on the information we have available at the time. We the SDTA & track owner made the call at 8:31 yesterday to NOT race, this may happen again in the future or we could risk it and spend $$ to drive several hrs away and sit there and stare at a wet race track and each other "which may be a good idea at this point as maybe we could be more productive as a group of Men having a respectful discussion". We would prefer to reschedule the race for another date and hope that the weather turns out better for that new date

I actually prefer to have the quads race with us as they make the racing surface better for the bikes but the turn out lately & the aggravation on this forum I'm beginning to question if it's really worth it. I hope you guys can prove me wrong in the future as you have made the declaration in the last few posts.

So I ask you again "Are you with us or against us"?

Submitted with the utmost of respect
Shawn

In my opinion, if you're going to ask people to buy into the Association's series to be able to compete for the championship and for trophy's at each event, then I think everyone that joins should be able to voice an opinion. If you want the kind of feedback yuou are looking for, Shawn, why not set up a formal meeting for the people that have joined the Association, to bounce ideas and possibly make a series that is for all competitors and fans alike. I, like you donated my time and knowledge to make SDTA have a look of professionalism. This whining from everyone is the most classless and tasteless aspect of all the posters here.

I believe that to make this better would be to have a meeting in a central location on a Saturday that everyone may be able to attend. Orlando? Ocala on a Sunday with a practice scheduled?

Being an organizer and promoter can be and is a thankless job at times. But, to do it right takes being like a duck; you let the criticism roll off you like water off a duck's back. Not an easy propisition but something everyone has to learn, none the less.

Those of us that have been racing for any length of time know how weather oriented some forms are. Flat-track particularly. Quads may be able to go out and do it on a soggy track, whereas those of us that want more of a challenge by riding a motorcycle, have a tougher time riding in the soup.

End of rant.
Richard.

That is uncalled for, as everyone knows that even in the best of conditions, quads turn the fastest lap times. We are also much heavier and it takes alot of strength to muscle something 100 lbs. heavier, going faster.

There is no need to put us down, there have been many good quad fanatics who have contributed to racing for all (Brady Windsor, Dave Ware) to be exact.

We raced for years without any motorcycles, and the scene was strong when the economy was good. So to say something like that really does offend us all (Quad guys) unnecessarily so.


On a good note, I am glad there are still people who are dedicated to organizing events and are willing to put forth the effort (alot of it) to keep this going.

whereas those of us riding a motorcycle, have a tougher time riding in the soup.

Scott, that may have been a poor choice of words. It was not meant to offend any quad riders. My point is/was that with 2 extra wheels you quad guys have an advantage over the motorcycles. Riding in the soup quick can be a hair raising ride, as I'm sure most of the motorcycle contingent will agree. I did not try to put down any one person or group of people for what they ride or not ride.
And I have ridden from 2 to 4 wheels and think that 3 wheels is tougher than than any of the others.

Richard.

OK... take a breath :box.gif :box.gif

You Know Matt........if you weren't so dam big........I would take you on  :box.gif :)

When you say big what do you really mean? Sounds like your taking about my belly. I take offense to that.. Now I'm really mad..some people should thinkk about the harmfull things they say......JUST KIDDIN!!! thought I could get the forum into an uproar again. ;)

If I had to guess on the big part, Nate or me would get that asterisk! ;D

Matt:
Ward meant your cylinder head porting. ;)

S.M.

im the flagman at crossroads an i talk to the track owner wade and you couldnt even drive a golf cart on it so it was a good call i hope to see everyone saturday  ;D

shhhhh !!! don't tell, now I might have to tear my bike down when I win !! :Fp