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Title: looking on getting your ccw?
Post by: crom A zone on December 11, 2009, 08:17:40 PM
if u live i south florida do not do it the old fashion way of mailig it in that will take 6 months or more go to the office in miami or west palm and u will have it in a week or two.   mine took 7 days to get to me thats alot faster than old fashion way. just thought i give u all heads up


Title: Re: looking on getting your ccw?
Post by: MiamiE on December 11, 2009, 08:26:03 PM
It has nothing to do with the location. FBI does a background check for the state. Only thing that can make it quicker is getting your fingerprints done electronically versus on paper. Wait time is usually only 4-6 weeks electronically versus 3-6 months with paper prints.


Title: Re: looking on getting your ccw?
Post by: crom A zone on December 11, 2009, 08:50:11 PM
no this is a new system alll paper work, finger prints, ad photo and notirization is done at this location for $117 and u have it in 2 weeks or less

old system is $177+your finger prints+your photo+notiriztion+gettig a head ach running around to all places. than fill out paper by hand hope u dont make a mistake ad bam 6 months later u get it




new system is cheaper faster ad more efficant


Title: Re: looking on getting your ccw?
Post by: jrpro130 on December 11, 2009, 08:55:56 PM
It has nothing to do with the location. FBI does a background check for the state. Only thing that can make it quicker is getting your fingerprints done electronically versus on paper. Wait time is usually only 4-6 weeks electronically versus 3-6 months with paper prints.

Yes it does, it is just as matt said. 

I did mine the old fashion way in January, took 7 months to get mine.  Matt got his in 7 days...

All you do is take an approved CCW course, go to the office, they take your fingerprints, picture, everything all in one place for 117 dollars.

I had to pay 117+20 for fingerprints+20 for picture, and I had to drive pretty much all around the county.

TRUST me, do it the new way.  This is something new, hasn't been around long to my knowledge.  It wasn't around when i got my license...


Title: Re: looking on getting your ccw?
Post by: Keeter on December 13, 2009, 07:41:51 AM
CCW? Counterclockwise   ::)


Title: Re: looking on getting your ccw?
Post by: crom A zone on December 13, 2009, 10:28:46 AM
lol u so smart


Title: Re: looking on getting your ccw?
Post by: Busta Nutt on December 13, 2009, 01:34:18 PM
why you cowboys need a CCW anyway? Am I missing out on something?


Title: Re: looking on getting your ccw?
Post by: jrpro130 on December 13, 2009, 01:52:38 PM
we just like to go counterclockwise


Title: Re: looking on getting your ccw?
Post by: Busta Nutt on December 13, 2009, 03:12:46 PM
in all my 40 something years I have never felt a need to carry a gun on me. what's yer deal?


Title: Re: looking on getting your ccw?
Post by: patches206 on December 13, 2009, 04:51:09 PM
This is florida most people have and carry guns so if they are doing it legal I see no problem with it!


Title: Re: looking on getting your ccw?
Post by: Baileygunns on December 13, 2009, 05:00:38 PM
in all my 40 something years I have never felt a need to carry a gun on me. what's yer deal?

Take a good look at the people around you... Ever wonder how many of them have a gun and you don't?


Title: Re: looking on getting your ccw?
Post by: crom A zone on December 13, 2009, 05:50:39 PM
just because u have it dont mean u gotta use it       better to carry for 40 years and not ever need it than be cought by one of these gang bangers doing robbery that happens many times a day down here and be knocked off



imo its better be over catious than not prepard   u dont want it to be cut short because someone wants ur car, or the few hundred bucks they might get away with from a store


Title: Re: looking on getting your ccw?
Post by: Busta Nutt on December 13, 2009, 06:33:16 PM
maybe you guys are hanging out in the wrong places or something. don't jump on me just asking a few questions.


Title: Re: looking on getting your ccw?
Post by: yfz122 on December 13, 2009, 08:11:15 PM
anything can happen anytime, anywhere. It does not matter where you are at. Dead bad guys are the only good ones!!!


Title: Re: looking on getting your ccw?
Post by: crom A zone on December 13, 2009, 08:13:22 PM
u can say that at night i work part time for dj with very expensive stuff leave bars 2 am and later in the dark
i leave the tat shop late at night with the guys that leave with alot of cash in hand


those are 2 main places i do on a weekly basis say  vertict says i need one     to many lazy non hard working people always trying to rip off working people


Title: Re: looking on getting your ccw?
Post by: TNTaylor on December 14, 2009, 07:05:39 AM
Where is the Miami office located?  My wife is getting her CCW and this sounds like the way to go.  She'll be wanting to carry the new .380 I got her for Christmas.

Does anyone know if the Glades range has reopened?  Last I heard they were going to reopen in Dec.

Its definitely better to have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have one.  There are bad people everywhere and there are  not enough police officers to guarantee your your protection.

Plus, target shooting is alot of fun....  :ThumbsUp.gif


Title: Re: looking on getting your ccw?
Post by: Mudneck on December 14, 2009, 08:12:37 AM
I was told you cant have one in a bar, sporting event etc.... But I have had mine for a while and I guess they have changed that  huh ???


Title: Re: looking on getting your ccw?
Post by: Anoriginal on December 14, 2009, 08:24:37 AM
Why carry a gun? Unless you don't read the newspapers, watch news reports or listen to the radio, an explanation shouldn't be required.

I carry and I have for some time. I hope I never have to use it. However, I like knowing I've got the option should it come to it.

And you don't have to be in any "bad area" to become a victim. Criminals could care less where you're located and what the circumstances are when it comes to committing a crime.

Want more reasons? Check out this site.  http://gunowners.org/sk0802.htm

All of the information is verified and statistically accurate.

Moreover, with the current administration in place, we owe it to ourselves to get a CCWP and protect our second amendment rights to the best of our ability. This administration is quite interested in reducing your rights to keep and bear arms.


Title: Re: looking on getting your ccw?
Post by: crom A zone on December 14, 2009, 08:42:33 AM
you right cant be in  a bar   but when shows over i walk out to truck get it while i am loading the trailer up with the stuff


there is a fine line to everything and what it comes down to will u rather be judged by 12 or carried by 6???


the miami office is of 2nd street downt town miami i looking for paper with number on it

and the west palm office is 561 640 6144


Title: Re: looking on getting your ccw?
Post by: jrpro130 on December 14, 2009, 09:49:14 AM
The bar thing is very easy, it's the 51/49 rule, if the establishment makes 51 percent of their sales in liquor then you CAN NOT carry there, and most likely you will be able to smoke.

The main thing to go by, if you can smoke in there you can not carry.  

I carry for many reasons, but most importantly is being prepared, there is a lot of evil in this world and I feel the need to be prepared for it.  I've had a few instances in my life that made me carry, and made me feel the way I do, everyone always has a 'turning point' so to speak.

I hope to god that I never ever have to use my weapon.  But the reality is that I may...and I train accordingly.

I try to avoid places I can not carry...and even in that case, better to be judged by 12....

It's not about anything but being prepared.  Guns are a tool, and should be trained well and carried accordingly, it requires a great deal of responsibility and respect to carry evey day.  

When you carry, you carry 24/7, here is a great link to my theory, I agree with Nuttnfancy 100 percent and this is something I found.

Civilian sheepdog! It's an obligation to carry. It is 24/7/365...when you decide to carry, you are obligated, you need to be trained, and level headed.  You either carry 24/7 or you don't carry at all.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gIHDHZf1TA


Title: Re: looking on getting your ccw?
Post by: MiamiE on December 14, 2009, 10:44:16 AM
I may be in the minority, but there's a reason why its called concealed carry! No is supposed to know you are carrying regardless of where you are. Take that for what its worth.


Title: Re: looking on getting your ccw?
Post by: jrpro130 on December 14, 2009, 11:56:50 AM
I may be in the minority, but there's a reason why its called concealed carry! No is supposed to know you are carrying regardless of where you are. Take that for what its worth.

You just admitted you carry. You are as guilty as the rest of us!

To be honest there are very few people on this forum that I could pick out on the street if I saw them, and the few that I do know are great people and also carry...or are not against it.

It is concealed, meaning hidden from plain view.  It would be a great guess if someone just walked up to me and said, "I know you are carrying", but the truth is that people are too busy with their important lives to care. 

It is very hard for me to even spot a person who carries unless it is blatantly obvious, which in that case let them be.

If you guys don't have it, read gunmatchers book.  It will answer any and all questions reguarding gun laws.  I need to pick up another copy, I lost mine, but I have read most of it. 


Title: Re: looking on getting your ccw?
Post by: MiamiE on December 14, 2009, 12:39:35 PM
I legally carry though with my CCW. Illegally where its not allowed. There's another book, which may be the same one you're talking about, that explains all the Florida laws in great detail. Especially the Castle Doctrine.


Title: Re: looking on getting your ccw?
Post by: jrpro130 on December 14, 2009, 12:57:10 PM
I legally carry though with my CCW. Illegally where its not allowed. There's another book, which may be the same one you're talking about, that explains all the Florida laws in great detail. Especially the Castle Doctrine.

That is the Gunmatcher book IIRC, it goes into great detail about everything

Like I said, I avoid places I can not carry legally.  I know the laws and abide by them very clearly, I can not risk anything. 


Title: Re: looking on getting your ccw?
Post by: crom A zone on December 14, 2009, 05:07:53 PM
i agree with miamie if no one knows u have it  you ok.   because rember we citizens that follow the rules are good  but when have u ever seen a croke  gangbanger, thug, or robber follows the laws and rules   


Title: Re: looking on getting your ccw?
Post by: Busta Nutt on December 14, 2009, 05:27:21 PM
so what if you carry not concealed is that legal? Like if I walk around with a pistol on my hip so all can see.


Title: Re: looking on getting your ccw?
Post by: Mudneck on December 14, 2009, 05:38:46 PM
Just dont pullit out & point it at anyone. Your gun that is ::)


Title: Re: looking on getting your ccw?
Post by: Young Gun on December 14, 2009, 06:24:38 PM
I'm pretty sure the age to have a CWP is 21, correct me if I'm wrong. But when I become of age to obtain the permit I'm sure as hell getting it. Sad thing is I'm getting it for those who carry guns illegally and with a CWP. I've seen two incidents of road rage that ended up with one of those involved, with a CWP, abusing it and showing the weapon to scare the other driver for beeping at them or getting close to them out of frustration. I know they had a CWP because both of the individuals I ended up meeting and becoming friends with. They are good people but they know they can abuse it and can get away with it, which makes me want to level out the playing field if that ever happened to me. And no I don't mean to show the gun back as if it was a part of me, I've been brought up on the belief of not using a gun unless one is presented towards you. I back up the saying of rather be prepared rather than being screwed 110%.


Title: Re: looking on getting your ccw?
Post by: z400250 on December 14, 2009, 06:50:30 PM
so what if you carry not concealed is that legal? Like if I walk around with a pistol on my hip so all can see.
you would be in trouble, you can legaly carry a weapon without a ccw as long as you follow certian rules, they are all talked about in gutmachers book. I'm not any kind of legal person so I'm not gonna go into it. If you wanna carry any kind of weapon concealed or not you need to go get the book by Jon H. Gutmacher and read it many times to find out the laws are first.


Title: Re: looking on getting your ccw?
Post by: z400250 on December 14, 2009, 06:56:49 PM
I'm pretty sure the age to have a CWP is 21, correct me if I'm wrong. But when I become of age to obtain the permit I'm sure as hell getting it. Sad thing is I'm getting it for those who carry guns illegally and with a CWP. I've seen two incidents of road rage that ended up with one of those involved, with a CWP, abusing it and showing the weapon to scare the other driver for beeping at them or getting close to them out of frustration. I know they had a CWP because both of the individuals I ended up meeting and becoming friends with. They are good people but they know they can abuse it and can get away with it, which makes me want to level out the playing field if that ever happened to me. And no I don't mean to show the gun back as if it was a part of me, I've been brought up on the belief of not using a gun unless one is presented towards you. I back up the saying of rather be prepared rather than being screwed 110%.

If somebody pulls a gun out they should have already decided that they are going to use it. If someone pulls a gun out and displays it to somebody else that has a gun they are proably gonna be shot and killed.


Title: Re: looking on getting your ccw?
Post by: crom A zone on December 14, 2009, 07:12:16 PM
if u pull gun out to show it to some one like that to scare them for road rage they should not own one. those are the people that give everything a bad name and if those are your freinds they should have there crap taken away untill they grow up a lil bit well alot a bit



i no i am known for stupied stuff but there is diffreance between typing on comp fourm or ridding atv drunk at mudfest than thinking just cause u got a weapon u can pull it out only time weapon should be pulled out if its going to be used and thats only if u are scared for your life hell thats just plain stupied what your freinds did and or do

i no i cant evan do anything that dumb


Title: Re: looking on getting your ccw?
Post by: Young Gun on December 14, 2009, 07:47:17 PM
If somebody pulls a gun out they should have already decided that they are going to use it. If someone pulls a gun out and displays it to somebody else that has a gun they are proably gonna be shot and killed.

I wouldn't doubt it if they pointed it in their direction, but I'm talking in a matter of showing their "machoness." They did it as to scare someone trying to say "hey look I have a gun don't mess with me", which is absolutely wrong to do. They did not point it at the person, they simply pulled it out so it could be displayed while pointed downward. There's too many people these days that consider a gun an extension of their arm and take handling one way too lightly. Eventually they will get ballsy enough where they point it and it accidentally goes off or the other person sinks a bullet into them. I guess a lesson learned the hard way is better than no lesson learned at all, just a shame it might be a life-ending one.


Title: Re: looking on getting your ccw?
Post by: Busta Nutt on December 14, 2009, 07:52:04 PM
so I have my.40 in my center console in a holster is it cool?


Title: Re: looking on getting your ccw?
Post by: z400250 on December 14, 2009, 08:10:13 PM
so I have my.40 in my center console in a holster is it cool?

Like I said if you wanna carry it go get the book, read it, and it will tell you all the ways and places to carry without a lic.

better yet if you wanna carry it just go get the ccw like this post was originaly about then you will not have any questions of being able to carry!!!


Title: Re: looking on getting your ccw?
Post by: z400250 on December 14, 2009, 08:13:26 PM

 They did not point it at the person, they simply pulled it out so it could be displayed while pointed downward.

I'm pretty sure that is against the law, its called brandishing a firearm!!


Title: Re: looking on getting your ccw?
Post by: Young Gun on December 14, 2009, 08:40:03 PM
I'm pretty sure that is against the law, its called brandishing a firearm!!

I'll let you tell them that :D


Title: Re: looking on getting your ccw?
Post by: crom A zone on December 14, 2009, 09:04:36 PM
u dont have enough guts to talk to your freinds? u a man or a boy?    u might wanna check and see who your freinds are because hanging with that crew will get u in some trouble


Title: Re: looking on getting your ccw?
Post by: z400250 on December 14, 2009, 09:58:01 PM
I'm pretty sure that is against the law, its called brandishing a firearm!!

I'll let you tell them that :D

I don't care what they do, I'm no leo, but I can tell you the game that they were playing will get them killed if played enuff times!! Its like Rusian Roulette, sometimes you might win but one of them times they will LOSE!!

They should check out the statistics because there are ALOT of people who carry guns in this state. Most of the people who carry a gun are a good shot with them and don't play around like they are toys, they are a means of self defense and when someone brandishes a gun around them they will be ready to shoot to kill not to scare!!


Title: Re: looking on getting your ccw?
Post by: crom A zone on December 14, 2009, 10:51:14 PM
well said z400250 


Title: Re: looking on getting your ccw?
Post by: Young Gun on December 15, 2009, 12:39:42 AM
Its like Rusian Roulette, sometimes you might win but one of them times they will LOSE!!

That's what I was getting at when I was talking about learning a lesson the hardway in one of my posts.

u dont have enough guts to talk to your freinds? u a man or a boy?    u might wanna check and see who your freinds are because hanging with that crew will get u in some trouble

Since you asked if I'm a man or boy I feel obligated to ask if your a High School graduate or not, because your grammar and spelling suck. I never said they were good friends. I have no problems with them and they are good people but unfortunately they have bad views on certain things. They could go out and get shot or accidentally shoot someone, it wouldn't affect my life in the least bit. I'd also appreciate it if you don't label me as in a "crew", I take that as an insult considering I don't have friends like that.


Title: Re: looking on getting your ccw?
Post by: jrpro130 on December 15, 2009, 02:15:22 AM
Wow, here we go with the grammar again.

I think everyone here that has questions on this needs to go read the Gunmatcher's book.  It explains everything with no gray area.

Also look at that link I posted...


Title: Re: looking on getting your ccw?
Post by: crom A zone on December 15, 2009, 07:20:40 AM
buddy i passed highschool the first time i took it unlike half of america that re peats grades and ends up a drop out with a ged   so what i get lazy when on here and just type dont proof read or nothing.   just remember   dont throw stones at anyone when you live in a glass house yourself


Title: Re: looking on getting your ccw?
Post by: gearhead400 on December 15, 2009, 08:07:37 AM
i agree with miamie if no one knows u have it  you ok.   because rember we citizens that follow the rules are good  but when have u ever seen a croke  gangbanger, thug, or robber follows the laws and rules   

man, knowing your carrying a gun, i think i might just break down and go get my ccw now. scaaaary  ;)


Title: Re: looking on getting your ccw?
Post by: TNTaylor on December 15, 2009, 10:33:12 AM
Anyone wanting to use the Miami-Dade office, its located at 401 NW 2nd Ave, phone 305-377-5940.

This is a major improvement in the FL CCWP application process.  This is about protecting yourself and family, not about making yourself a badass with a gun.  Also, as ANORIGINAL pointed out, we should all be exercising our Constitutional rights before they are taken away.  You should also consider joining and supporting the NRA.

TNT


Title: Re: looking on getting your ccw?
Post by: gearhead400 on December 15, 2009, 11:10:09 AM
Just got a letter from the nra and I get a sweet duffle bag when I join :D


Title: Re: looking on getting your ccw?
Post by: jrpro130 on December 15, 2009, 11:28:58 AM
Can't say that enough, join the NRA.


Title: Re: looking on getting your ccw?
Post by: crom A zone on December 15, 2009, 11:40:35 AM
k the info was set out for people  before everyone gets the pantis in atwist i am gonna lock this topic to keep it on a good note this was made to be  imformative for people in south florida


everyone be safe and good luck