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Michael Richards makes his point..............
Michael Richards better known as Kramer from TVs Seinfeld does make a good point.

This was his defense speech in court after making racial comments in his comedy act. He makes some very interesting points...


Someone finally said it.  How many are actually paying attention to this?  There are African Americans, Mexican Americans, Asian Americans, Arab Americans, etc.

And then there are just Americans.  You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction.  You call me 'White boy,' 'Cracker,' 'Honkey,' 'Whitey,' 'Caveman'... and that's OK.

But when I call you, Nigger, Kike, Towel head, Sand-nigger, Camel Jockey, Beaner, Gook, or Chink .. You call me a racist.

You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you... so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?

You have the  United  Negro  College Fund. You have Martin Luther King Day.

You have Black History Month. You have Cesar Chavez Day.   

You have Yom Hashoah. You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi.

You have the NAACP.  You have BET... If we had WET (White Entertainment Television), we'd be racists.  If we had a White Pride Day, you would call us racists.

If we had White History Month, we'd be racists.

If we had any organization for only whites to 'advance' OUR lives, we'd be racists.

We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a Black Chamber of Commerce, and then we just have the plain Chamber of Commerce.  Wonder who pays for that?

A white woman could not be in the Miss Black American pageant, but any color can be in the Miss America pageant.

If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships... You know we'd be racists.

There are over 60 openly proclaimed Black Colleges in the US.  Yet if there were 'White colleges', that would be a racist college.

In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights.  If we marched for our race and rights, you would call us racists.

You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid to announce it.  But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists.

You can rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us. But, when a white police officer shoots a black gang member or beats up a black drug dealer running from the law and posing a threat to society, you call him a racist.

I am proud... But you call me a racist.

Why is it that only whites can be racists??

There is nothing improper about this. That's why we have LOST most of OUR RIGHTS in this country.  We won't stand up for ourselves!



BE PROUD TO BE WHITE!


It's not a crime YET... but getting very close!

Racism is alive, well and most open when it comes to anything other than being white. That's a great summation and painfully true. I defy anyone to prove its wrong.

which is why you should "vote for me, i'll make your wildest dreams come true" lol  Why is black history in February?  because its the shortest month.  I would get rid of it and either create a WET or get rid of BET.  It will now be illegal to drive under the speed limit and quads and trikes will now be street legal.  if only if only haha

I don't see you guys fighting as hard to join the Special Olympics or any disabled Americans clubs! The only folks you're going to incite with your white/black rhetoric are racists!  It's like listening to speaches of Nixon shouting, "I'm not a liar". Geeez, give it up, already, you're embarrassing yourselves. You're only fooling yourself. The proof is right here.

That doesn't make any sense to me.

I agree with swampers post.

I'm not racist..............I have 4 colored TVs. Plus my taxes support more people then the pay I bring home.

Oh, please!  :'( You haven't lost any rights, inclduing your right to spew fear and hate right here. Get over yourself. Only you can take your white pride away! 

aintskeerd  u are as weird  as they come.

Thank you. Now, in addition to being proud of my heritage I can be proud of being thought to be weird by you. So, you think this topic is not weird? It's certainly devoid of any pride. Is it too hard to post reasons why you should be proud of being white without blaming others or professing to be better than they?

Your post is a prime example of what swampers post refers to.

Except for the most important fact, I'm not telling you that you should not be proud of being white. I'm asking you to take pride in the things you do to help others, not in the things that discredit them.

While I do agree with some of the things in the original post, Im with Aint Skeered on this one. Dumb thread, lock it.

Don't lock it. After 8 years of wars, terrorism, WMDs and now a deep recession, I'm just as cautious, apprehensive and pessimistic, as those folks posting here. They're all good men and have good reason to be concerned. They give a crap. There are people out there who are going to try to make it more difficult for whitey, blacky, etc.. But, don't let anyone tell you that you cannot be proud of your race, color, creed or sexual orientation. What are we going to fix by being paranoid, hateful and vindictive. Look at those folks in the Middle East, they've been in that mode for centuries and it's spilling-over on us.

I am not locking it.  I am just wondering how people feel.  Its amazing to me what is plainly written and how some people perceive it and make statements or judgments on something not even written.

I appreciate what you've stated. I'm guilty for judging Michael Richards' rant as irresponsible because he takes no responsibility for his actions and he feebily attempts to excuse his behavior by blaming others. But, the statements or judgments you're surprised by refer to the last 2 or 3 lines which appear to have been added to Richards' rant. Did he say that, too? And, after the recent elections, we should not be surprised by nor underestimate the number of people who are tired of hearing about racism, just because a few prefer to incite it.  

anytime white man tries to have somthing for our pride we get told we are rasict vy every other group in the world.      just sit back and look at it  if we wanted an all white school or tv show  what would happen? naacp would step in and say thats not fair.   its plain english   this world will never be at peace like    they say.

Blacks and whites had better put it all behind them and learn to get along and stick together because the rest of the world hates us as Americans no matter the color of our skin.

The color of someone's skin does not qualify them to be in Special Olympics, ect.  You are comparing apples to oranges.  I think you implying that someone can "join" a Special Olympics or Disabled Americans club by choice is a slap to anyones face who is in it.   

Blaming others?  Profesing to be better than they are?  Where is this? 

Where does it say we don't take pride in helping anyone?  Where has it "discredited" them?  Who is "them"?

Really? Are you sure we haven't lost any rights? Well, how about, the right to:

Get a fair shot at government contracts without special consideration going to those bidding against us who are other than white?

Get admission into colleges without losing reserved spots for persons who are other than white in order to satisfy some affirmative action credo.

Get the same access to grants, tax breaks, loans, subsidies and considerations as those who are other than white receive on a daily basis?

You're wrong on this one. There's been no disparagement, slant or anything in this post. It was merely a great mirror of the way things are today. The most openly racist things you'll come across in today's society are against the white race. Everyone knows the original post is an accurate representation, including you Aint.  ;)

Why does it have to be "blacks and whites" why can't it be "everyone"?  

up bringing.its what chrildren are tought by there parents and the cycle continues.And thats word wide.

Thats why many (for the minority contracts) have put the business in thier wife's name.  I know its a little different than what we are talking about.

It just might support your allegations if facts from the GAO or other government agency could show us which companies received government contracts and how much they received during the past x amount of years. For example, who owns Brown and Root, Blackwater, TSA and other defense contractors, are black farmers getting more subsidies than whites, etc.? Who just got those bank and auto bailout's? And, who does the GAO say has gotten the most federal loans, etc.? It'd also be nice to see facts from the EEOC or other non-partisan organizations to support allegations that whites are being discriminated against by universities/colleges and the grade point average of those who failed to get admitted to those colleges. As far as expecting most people to support Michael Richards' remarks, don't kid yourself. Why can't a bank robber claim he has a right to rob banks just because others do it? Michael Richards is feebly attempting to justify his rage and anger by pointing out what others do. He's not being punished for his remarks, but, you can't expect most folks to buy tickets to listen to that crap, anymore. BTW, I've no illusions of persuading anyone to change their opinions. Most of you are grown men, highly educated and far from being stupid. It's just fun to challenge attempts to create derision, sometimes.

Derision? Hardly. There's no ridicule in this thread.  It's a mere statement of the facts as they exist. Nothing more.

You want backup? Here's some of the legislation (at the federal level...states have even more) designed to favor minority business and minority contracts.

Executive Order 11485 (1969): Established by the U.S. Office of Minority Business Enterprise within the Department of Commerce, for the purpose of mobilizing federal resources to aid minorities in business.

Executive Order 11625 (1971): Gives the secretary of commerce the authority to implement federal policy in support of minority business enterprise programs, to provide technical and management assistance to disadvantaged businesses, and coordinate activities between all federal departments to aid in increasing minority business development.

Public Works Employment Act (1977): Requires that at least 10% of federal construction contracts be awarded to businesses owned by minorities. Still in effect today!!!!

Public Law 95–507 (1978): Mandates that if a buyer's firm is awarded a federal contract that exceeds $10,000, the buyer is required to make “maximum efforts” in awarding subcontracts to small minority businesses. If the federal contract exceeds $500,000 ($1,000,000 for construction projects), prior to contract award the buyer’s firm must submit an acceptable buying plan that includes percentage goals for the utilization of minority businesses. The plan must also detail procedures for identifying and dealing with minority businesses.

Here's the most recent reiteration under the CFR at 23 CFR 230B. It's lengthy so I'll just post some excerpts...

Sec. 230.201 Purpose.

To prescribe the policies, procedures, and guidance to develop, conduct, and administer supportive services assistance programs for minority, disadvantaged, and women business enterprises.

Sec. 230.204 Implementation of supportive services.

(a) Subject to the availability of funds under 23 U.S.C. 140(c), the State highway agency shall establish procedures to develop, conduct, and administer minority business enterprise training and assistance programs specifically for the benefit of women and minority businesses. Supportive services funds allocated to the States shall not be used to finance the training of State highway agency employees or to provide services in support of such training. State highway agencies are not required to match funds allocated to them under this section. Individual States are encouraged to be actively involved in the provision of supportive services. Such involvement can take the form of staff, funding, and/or direct assistance to augment the supportive services efforts financed by Federal-aid funds.

(b) State highway agencies shall give preference to the following types of services:

(1) Services relating to identification, prequalification, and certification assistance, with emphasis on increasing the total number of legitimate minority business enterprises participating in the Federal-aid highway program;

(2) Services in connection with estimating, bidding, and technical assistance designed to develop and improve the capabilities of minority businesses and assist them in achieving proficiency in the technical skills involved in highway construction;

(3) Services designed to develop and improve the immediate and long-term business management, recordkeeping, and financial accounting capabilities;

(4) Services to assist minority business enterprises to become eligible for and to obtain bonding and financial assistance;

(5) Services relating to verification procedures to ensure that only bona fide minority business enterprises are certified as eligible for participation in the Federal-aid highway program;

(6) Follow-up services to ascertain the outcome of training and assistance being provided; and

(7) Other services which contribute to long-term development, increased opportunities, and eventual self-sufficiency of minority business enterprises

I can go on and on and on.

Regarding the amount of contracts given, who knows? The point is, they're given special considering due to color, creed and/or gender. That's the crux of the issue.

Also, you can't use Brown and Root, Blackwater and TSA as an example. Show me a minority owned business that offers these services. We're talking about your every day run of the mill government contract right here in our back yard.


Regarding access to education, you're kidding me right? I've experienced this first hand. I've had people tell me they can't give me money for college, not because my grades were not good enough, not because I had too much money but, because I was a white male. Rather, money was held for minorities with GPA's and educational back grounds inferior to me and mine. Same thing goes for racial quotas in access to admission.

Granted, recent court decisions have put a dent into the consideration of race in admissions policy. But, we've faced quotas and will continue to do so for years to come as the swing away from affirmative action is being taken on at the state and not the federal level. Texas and (believe it or not) California {Via Prop 209} are leading the way.

Another poor analogy is comparing the bank robber to Micheal Richard's comments. Hardly correlated. One is a crime against everyone. The other is an example of the double standards imposed against white males in today's United States.

Aint, you're a smart guy. I know it based upon your prior posts. But, in this case, I can't see the point you're trying to make. None of this is false or a misguided perception. It's what we are all facing and living with. The post and the subject of the post just point it out.


 

Amen, Cracker Power............. :ThumbsUp.gif

some people take being called a cracker offensive but they are respecting us and knowing their position because we are the whip crackers.

I'm proud just be alive... how about that.

As far as the race thing goes if you can't deal with it, kick them (including me)
all out. If you don't have the power to do that yourself.... Deal with it.

Some races of people did not ask to come here, blame that on your white
ancestors bright idea that fookin backfired.

Onced freed, they weren't forced to stay either.

Point is, racism is alive today. Sad, but true. And, it's in forms most don't recognize or expect.

As far as being proud to be alive, I agree with you 100% and will add that I'm proud to be alive and American.  ;)

The point of this thread isn't to hate people that aren't white. It's the fact that every race other then white has more rights, specialty groups and gets special treatment from the government. If your white and you fall on hard times you are SCREWED!! The government won't give you a dime!

There are plenty of white people on government assistance, they may not admit to it.

You must realize that decade after decade america has grown more diverse, diluting a once "geared
toward white" culture. As far as More Rights.... the squeaky wheel gets the grease. I personally dont
care for BET, NAACP, and all that other BS.

All I can do is vouch for is myself. I dont ask for special treatment, dont look for
special treament, im a hard working business owner who dislikes
people that "work" the system and complain instead of putting there best foot forward. 

Maybe this thread should be - Be Proud Of Your Heritage And Dislike Lazy Cry Babies.

Here here!! Well said and Amen!   :ThumbsUp.gif

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hmmm..... should my next one be about religion?  LOL  >:D Another time another place perhaps.

Aww heck. Why not? Let it fly and lets all get into it. You pick a side and I'll take the other just to stir it up and get it rolling.


 ;)

I already cornered "The does God Exist" thread, maybe something like do miracles really happen or I don't know, are there any straight Catholic priest, that ought to be good.

Whites didnt do anything wrong, blacks should blame their own people for putting them up for sale.  We didnt take them theyw ere sold to us by their own people.  Now thats low.

LOL I read a bumper sticker on the way home tonight it said:

son : Why is there so much violence in school?
mother: Because God is not allowed in school.

My thoughts were :
son : Why does God let priest molest children?
me : Good question!

SPICK POWER!!!!! :M

i'm fine with mexicans and some blacks.  but once you start acting like a monkey or think your a gangster I have lost all respect for you.  sometimes i wonder

Those examples listed as testimony to white discrimination do not quantify the alleged discrimination. Infact, they clearly infer the opposite. For example, Public Works Employment Act (1977): Requires that at least 10% of federal construction contracts be awarded to businesses owned by minorities. That means 90% can go to whitey, correct? And, another "example calls for contractors to use a small percentage of minority subcontractors if the government contract is for more the $500K. Regardless of what I think about it, quantifiable facts have not been produced anywhere in this discussion that whitey's being discriminated against by the government. 

What ever happen to being proud of the HUMAN RACE!!!!!!!!!!        whether you like it or not we are all part of the HUMAN RACE and if your whatever color it dont matter!!!!   If im on a cliff and need help I dont care what color the guy or girl is!!!!       if and when I fall on the track, I could care less what race the person thats helping me is!!!!!!!    I personally dont like many of the things many of the races stereotype themselves with!   live and let live!!!               

I think that's exactly what these guys are actually saying. They simply believe that if there were no minority quotas, all would have equal chance to compete for college scholarships and government contracts, etc.. The opposing view is that the deck is too heavily-stacked against minorities for them to compete.

That statement is ridiculous.

Thanks for the expanation Ain't. Now can you please explain the United Negro College Fund AND the Black Miss America Pagent ?  Or maybe "whitey" as you call it,can enter or be eligible for both.

Just think what this world would be like with out anglosaxon race.

If no whites can get money from the United Negro College Fund or can't enter that beauty pageant it's discrimination, plain and simple. Whites would be interested in participating in the United Negro College Fund and Black Miss America pageant for the personal experience and the spiritual pleasure they'd gain from it, right?

I see you had no choice but to admit it was discrimination. I know it killed you to do it.lol. I'm sure millions of whites would care less about participating in the United Negro College Fund if they "whitey" as you call them, could get tuition money and scholarships just for being white. It has nothing to do with the experience and the spiritual pleasure and you know it. It would never be allowed to happen the other way. That's the issue at hand.It's okay to admit it Ain't.You'll be okay.

Never denied that discrimination. Just won't buy it as anyone's excuse to return the favor. I'm thankful that I've never needed help from those organizations and would never deny others from that help. 

My point exactly.If you ever did need help from those organizations you would not be able to get it because you're WHITE!!!!!!!!!!!!  You are white aren't you?

The point is that I'd be able to get help from many, many more organizations than those individuals can get help from!

That's a joke.

Um, that was absurd Aint.

This means that in addition to the 10% that's definintely set aside for the minority contractors, the other 90% is equally available to them as well. In order for it to be nondiscriminating, there would be no percentages and. quite frankly, no law.

That's perfectly understandable unless you're trying to minimize the blatant act of discrimination instead of whole heartedly admitting to it. For example "I'm thankful that I've never needed help from those organizations"   He never could get help from those organizations,but by saying it the way he did,it minimizes the effect. Another example " If no whites can get money from the United Negro College Fund or can't enter that beauty pageant it's discrimination." There is no IF.Whites ARE excluded. But ,by saying "if" you leave room for doubt and again, it minimizes the effect. Some people are in denial to a certain degree and others choose to either ignore the facts or minimize them with a play on words and then try to semi justify it by saying they can get help from many,many more organizations. I know that racism and discrimination is alive and well to this day.All I'm saying is that it goes both ways. Some people either think it's one sided or they minimize it or make feeble attempts to semi justify it. It's wrong either way. Everyone should have the same oppurtunities,hence, "The land of oppurtunity?" And these are just a few examples where that does not apply. No one "White or Black" should be denied anything based on their race. It goes against what this country stands for. I'm done.

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WOW!
I wanna say, Thank God for the diverse opinions, views, and perspectives of the individuals on this site. What is even more impressive, is the manner in which you all have communciated. On such a controversial topic, it is hard pressed to find a group of guys (both black and white) who could carry this conversion to this point without actually becoming violent.

Now most of you who know me, know that I usually do not chime in on these types of things. Most know that I do not debate well at all. And most know that I will just punch you in the friggin face if you discriminate against me, disrespect, me or piss me off.

But I will say this. The post that started this thread is absolutely correct. However, we have to look at the reason that these types of issues have evolved.

#1- We and our ancestors "White Americans" have done things in the past that most of us are not proud of. We have enslaved races. Driven some to near extinction. Exploited them to our own personal benefit. The list goes on and on. Unfortunately, we are living the consequences or those actions. So why are we surprised that most races want their liberation in the form of self contained rights??? Im not saying that it is the way that it should be. But, it is definitely human nature to feel that way if your on the other side. Do things like the BET cater more to the African American culture or more to their race?  Most of these things could better be summed up as Culturalistic Venues if we stop long enough to look at them. As opposed to Racial Socialism. But even under the most genuine reasons for things like BET, NAACP, Black History Month, Black Miss America, we find ways of using it to our own racial reasoning. Instead of most races using these things as a catalyst for themeselves to have opportunity where they otherwise would not (because that is why most of these things are created, not out of pure desire for Racial Socialism), they use them for the purpose of "working the system based on my skin color or ethnic background".

Long and short of it. We as "white americans" have created it, and still do on a daily basis. All other races and ethnic groups have exploited it (including ourselves). We can call each other what we want. But when it boils down to it, it is all usually the result of finger pointing, name blaming, laziness, lack of communication and Plain Old Stupid AZZ people!

Now! If you dont like that, you can kiss my backside and meet me outside! Punks! ;)

Ride1Rob - The reason you suck on a quad is not because you are black!!!!!  :D

jt

Oh, you're wrong on that one JT! You see, the white man didin't take the time to show a brotha how to ride fast... Dem ATV's is geared toward white people... They were built by the white man... I don't have my 40 acres to practice on nor my mule to help groom the track... Da white man has made me scared of heights, that's why I can't jump that well... Awww Damn! I give up! I'm just slow as hell  :( .

Thats why I dont like white people! Take TRX9 for example.
He's so white you can see him from space!
He's like a solar panel or something.

And by the way. You aint no Bubba Stewart. But you aint slow either!

Later
jt

on a lighter note Ride1rob The reason it is geared toward white people is because most blks are fast on their feet they dont need a quad and hell I used to workout like hell and could not get as cut up as some brothers, Hell I think you guys got delt 2 cards when your born You are born Cutup like a race horse or BBQ cooks lol and I never chimed in on your kids video but he is bad ass my 7 year old we had him a 50 when he was 5 but all he wanted to do was donuts he loved doing donuts

Heh,Exactly we cant outrun or outjump the black folks so we had to become faster on things with 4 wheels.Rob id loan ya my mule butt he damn thing is just to lazy  :P

 rolback1

Well, he got his arse handed to him by the those lil boys this past Saturday lol. Those lil guys keep the throttle pinned ALL the way around the track. He lets off in certain spots because he says he doesn't want to kill himself in the turns. But on the finish line jump he's the only one doing baby whips everytime he hits it  :o . Scares the crap outta me! Some of the parents call him showtime. But he's either younger or less experienced than the other kids. Thanx for the props by the way.

Ohhh Gato, you mean ripped and fast like this...

I'm to the far right...
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I was a bad boy on the field as well...
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LOL, sorry UF fans 1994 11-0
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But this is what ticks me off... This is my lil brother on the right. Taller than me 6'7, faster than me, more ripped than me, and younger than me   :'( . LOL   I'm thinkin' my dad was holding back when I was conceived  >:( . This mofo runs like the wind.
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Loan his lazy arse to me. I'll get him to work  :box.gif. Hya MULE!!!

Uh Hummm...I would post pictures of me but pictures from "Playgirl" would not be allowed.   ;)   Might be able to find some from "Muscle" magazine. 

lol.... I dont care to much more about this thread, im just happy to see another brother on this thread/site.

and for all the others, if you got a quad, your my brother to!

I'm solar powered as well.. 8)

I'm half white, half brown and half black. Oh, and one quarter purple.

.5+.5+.5+.25= 1.75 does not compute captain

So Rob is black?????

TRX9 is solar powered

JT is a fighter

And racism is alive and stupid


This thread aint half bad :D

I was in Playgirl as well .I used the name Ron Nacho!!!!

Stop being racist. Of course it works...I am a big dude.

The half of you that is brown doesn't count, sh1t is not a race. :-*

HMMM  I thought he was 100% full of sh*t. 

X2 I agree good group of people here! 

I just got back from Atlanta I see I missed out  ;) I didn't think it would still be posting on this topic.

 

Now if m0n0x1d3  would have posted the playgirl pics you would have missed something. But since he didn't... and if you do, delete yourself out of them. We don't want to see that  :Dead.gif  .

Both of you guys can get in line and pucker up.

I'm proud to be methane powered, if you don't mind smoking in my face, I don't mind farting in your's. :)

Anytime I am somewhere and people are smoking, I am a complete AZZ. I cough, hack, gag, fart really loud (I am not kidding) as close to them as possible. If my son is with me, I am flat out rude and tell them to get the phuck away from us or I'll remove them.

Back when smoking was allowed in restaurants I was really a pain for them. I'd turn and cough on them, walk over by them and fart, etc. If you want to kill yourself, have at it. I don't mind if you smoke one bit. Just don't do it around me or my kid.

reality you are  a dumb a**.  i cant wait to see u in public i will smoke   spit my skoal out and drink alot beer, than i will jump on my atv and ride around in an illagle spot.

you keep acting like that bout smokin, someone will smoke you.  At least the fourm will be saved from all your dumb  and stupied posts.       go buy and atv and start riding    stop pretending.  and if u dont like me   come to my camp at river ranch

 :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
The pride(or smell) brings tears to my eyes. But, you boys should tear yourself away from tonight's Fox presentation of the 41st Annual NAACP awards starring Al Gore, so we can have a lively debate.

aintskared   u in same boat as reality both dumb as box as rocks  naacp aint got nothing  on  true white boy style

I welcome anyone to try and stop me from smoking in a legal area. Why would you take your child where people were smoking legally and then act like an ass?

Don't worry smelly, no one's going to stop you from stinking up the joint and giving others lung and heart disease. You still have the advantage because my farts go away much quicker than your stench, they don't stain furniture and don't cause disease, either. And, thank for the compliment Matilda.

aintskeerd is nothing but lil boy trapped in a mans body.  he gives atv sport a bad name  the best part is he never rides his atv if he owns one.   him and his lil boyfreind reailty   lol  lol  lol   lol   lol   lol   lol   hey ainbt got no happy things in there life so they try to bring every one else down.

What's that ebonics? When in doubt, throw an "izzle" sound in the middle of any word or just string random thoughts together and insinuate that they actually mean something.

Oh, I can stop you from smoking near me....trust me. And, I'd never take my son into an area where someone is already smoking. That would make me an ass for sure. It's when they come around me and light up that it gets ugly. I purposely avoid an area if someone is smoking.

Done it lots and lots and never had a problem to date. Of course, I always ask nice.  ;)


That's just funny right there...I don't care who you are. Now I'm not sure about my farts and the disease thing. Depends on what I've eaten in the last 12 hours or so.

I think it was "tardonics".

you guys ar=izzy funny u think u so smart and tought but its comp u all is on.  u no u tuck and run when u out i ask them nicely   lol  no u walk the other way i am glad i smoke   and make people like u go out of youxs way

Yep. Definitely tardonics.

And, to think it was just the other day that I defended the guy. Someone said he had half a brain and I said no he doesn't. Matt, chill, we're just having fun provoking you. Don't take it seriously.

i am just having fun too dont worry i bored at work  and   my clutch is out on my atv   so for few days  i will be very bored till my part comes in

wow matt, didn't I teach you to use your puncuation marks? come on bubba...you know better!

We all stick up for you then you type like a 3rd grader...hell actuallly 4th graders can out type you!

The only thing I no longer joke about is trespassing. Not only do I now think it's irresponsible, but, I believe it's causing riding areas to be closed down. As a young man, I was the stereotypical surfer. I rebelled against the fact that high rise hotels blocked public access to our beaches by trespassing to get to those beaches. The police would be called and I'd be forced to stay in the water for hours and/or paddle down the beach until they had something better to do than wait for me. Then, I joined Surfrider Foundation and supported efforts to force those hotels to provide public access to our beaches. I also eventually I fed my fever by taking surf trips to California and Hawaii(4 times) to surf, legally. When I got bald, fat, ugly and middle-aged, I got PWCs and had to fight the manatee zones(even though I had no propeller), sneak out the intercoastal during approaching hurricanes to jump the surf and fight outright bans by joining organizations such as AWA, ARRA and Boat Biscayne. I sympathize with your feelings about the lack of legal riding areas and once thought we should all unite in civil disobedience of the trespassing laws(thinking it might force more legal areas). But, my opinion changed when I witnessed that the lawless associated with our ATV hobby had destroyed those areas with trash, total disregard for wildlife habitat, public drunkenness, serious accidents and crimes. So, I can no longer support trespassing. Instead, I support the ARRA, support all of the legal events/riding areas and leave those illegal areas to those who cannot or will not afford to ride in legal areas. I won't explain just how inexpensive it can be to ride legally for fear of having others destroy it for all of us. Sorry.   

I almost agree with you, But I live by the saying " its only illegal if you get caught"  You are right, trespassing and drooping  trash, and also public drunkenness makes people that ride ATVs bad. Evan though its only  a few out of a big bunch.  Yes, I drink and ride my ATV all the time, but i drink responsibly. I bring and or eat food where i ride, but again i take my trash with me for the most part.  I have more trespassing warnings and tickets than most get in lifetime already. I see it as we pay are taxes every pay check now its time that government does there part a Lil more than they are now.





(i hope   you all can understand this)   jrpro  you happy i used all my .,?"   i think i put them in the right spot. :-*

I have seen your pictures.......ummmm you aint white. Your just a "Lonky" - A Latino wanting to be white   LOL    rolback1 rolback1 rolback1 rolback1 rolback1

keeter  i can swear to u i am not a latino or spanish or mexican or anything  but white amreican

Amreican... Is that American Puerto Rican  :-\ .

nope i just str8t up white trash    spend some much time in sun i really dark.   but if i lift my shirt sleeve or where shorts i got really bad tan lines

It was mentioned about government contracts going to minority owners, etc.  I would like to put my input on that topic.  I am a woman who has held a contractor's license in Lee County for many years and I have also done many Government jobs that I know full well went to me because I qualified as a minority.  There are associations that I could apply to in order to receive special funding, grants, low interest loans etc however I have NEVER applied for such assistance.  I have always relied on my quality of workmanship to achieve success.  I feel more pride that I have gained success because of a job well done than by qualifying through my race or the fact that I am a woman.  If people want True equality, then it should be based on the qualifying principles only, an example would be college scholarships.  It should go the the most qualified person to receive it.  If you Know you are eligible to receive this scholarship based on the fact that you are hispanic, white, black or anything else, perhaps those people are not so willing to work harder than the next person to actually EARN the scholarship.  Imagine that.  Receiving assistance because you actually work hard for it and just need a little extra help, not for any excuse as to why you do not have the same grades or abilities.  Why work hard for something when you can get a handout. 
I am proud of my heritage.  I am classified as a white woman.  My family come over on a boat from Sicily and entered legally through Ellis Island.  I have biracial children with a Latin man that I have been marred to for over 11 years.  (all 3 children from the same father, imagine that! lol)  I have a hugely diverse ethnic and cultural background.  Having been raised in the hills of Tennessee, love country music, drive a huge & obnoxious four-wheel-drive (hehe) and love a Latin man.  I have even been engaged to a black man for about 4 years prior to my previous husband.  I could hardly consider myself a racist by any means.  But I truly believe that people need to have pride in who they are.  It does seem that it is almost a crime to say you are proud to be white for fear of re procussions.  First and foremost, we are Americans. 
I have rambled enough.  Take care and God bless!  (oh yeah, that's another topic for discussion, fear of expressing your religious beliefs.  Sorry if I offended anyone by saying I hope God blesses you.  LOL! )

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