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Title: John Gruden Fired from the BUCS!! Post by: mrbones on January 16, 2009, 06:15:21 PM Let the party begin. FINALLY!! HE'S GONE!!
<nanaparty> <nanaparty> <nanaparty> <nanaparty> <nanaparty> <nanaparty> <nanaparty> <nanaparty> <nanaparty> <nanaparty> <nanaparty> <nanaparty> <nanaparty> <nanaparty> <nanaparty> <nanaparty> <nanaparty> <nanaparty> <nanaparty> <nanaparty> <nanaparty> <nanaparty> <nanaparty> <nanaparty> <nanaparty> <nanaparty> <nanaparty> <nanaparty> <nanaparty> <nanaparty> <nanaparty> <nanaparty> <nanaparty> <nanaparty> <nanaparty> <nanaparty> <nanaparty> <nanaparty> <nanaparty> <nanaparty> Title: Re: John Gruden Fired from the BUCS!! Post by: AintSkeered on January 16, 2009, 07:45:58 PM Be careful of what you've wished for, the Bucs may get some recycled has been, instead. Look what happened to the Fins after Shula!
Title: Re: John Gruden Fired from the BUCS!! Post by: digginfool on January 16, 2009, 07:47:33 PM I guess the Chucky faces just aren't cutting it anymore! Kinda sucks because he is a good coach. I wonder if anybody is ever going to make Tampa a true contender. Nobody's done it yet, so you can't call him all bad. John did a great job in San Diego. Maybe it hasn't been long enough since the Buc's gave up their gay filet pirate! rolback1 rolback1 rolback1
Title: Re: John Gruden Fired from the BUCS!! Post by: AintSkeered on January 16, 2009, 07:54:07 PM The Bucs won a Super Bowl 37 in Chuckie's first year, but, went 60-57 during Gruden's tenure. If memory serves me, Gruden inherited Dungy's Bucs.
Title: Re: John Gruden Fired from the BUCS!! Post by: dgt714 on January 16, 2009, 08:15:02 PM The Bucs won a Super Bowl 37 in Chuckie's first year, but, went 60-57 during Gruden's tenure. If memory serves me, Gruden inherited Dungy's Bucs. Well said .Title: Re: John Gruden Fired from the BUCS!! Post by: FOREMANRON on January 16, 2009, 08:26:22 PM GRUDEN DID NOT WIN A SUPER BOWL DUNGY WON THE SUPER BOWL
Title: Re: John Gruden Fired from the BUCS!! Post by: chrisyzf450 on January 16, 2009, 09:06:03 PM Allen, Gruden Dismissed
Jan 16, 2009 - The Tampa Bay Buccaneers today announced that they have dismissed head coach Jon Gruden and General Manager Bruce Allen. “We will be forever grateful to Jon for bringing us the Super Bowl title, and we thank Bruce for his contributions to our franchise,” said Buccaneers Co-Chairman Joel Glazer. “However after careful consideration, we feel that this decision is in the best interest of our organization moving forward.” Title: Re: John Gruden Fired from the BUCS!! Post by: IXIswamperIXI on January 16, 2009, 09:15:16 PM good move!!
Title: Re: John Gruden Fired from the BUCS!! Post by: CABLEGUY1 on January 16, 2009, 09:18:37 PM Be careful of what you've wished for, the Bucs may get some recycled has been, instead. Look what happened to the Fins after Shula! That's a really really bad comparison Aint. Gruden couldn't hold Shulas jock strap. To find as good a replacement as Shula, was and is proving to be impossible ,where as to replace Gruden with a better coach is very likely. Besides Shula retired and Gruden was fired. No one can live up to Shula.You know that little perfect season,winningest coach thing. The Bucs organization finally stepped up to the plate and listened to the fans. Now that the Gruden ego is gone they have a chance to get an offense,although the team may struggle for a couple years thanks to Monty leaving. Rumor is already starting about a Dungy reunion. Title: Re: John Gruden Fired from the BUCS!! Post by: Ride1Rob on January 16, 2009, 09:45:35 PM Dungy's not coming back to Tampa to coach. Why would he after the way he was ousted? He was also wayyy too conservative and I don't think Tampa would have won a superbowl unless Dungy was willing to do some major changing offensively here. As for Gruden, he was awful! This is something that has been long overdue. The players didn't respect him and he carried himself as if he was bigger than the game. John Lynch should have retired as a Buc, he flat out lied to Kennan McCardell, and he has treated several othe players like trash. He'll probably land a head coaching job somewhere else in the land of coaching carousel.
Title: Re: John Gruden Fired from the BUCS!! Post by: chrisyzf450 on January 16, 2009, 09:52:30 PM Shaula may have the most wins by count.....But, George Halas has a better percentage of wins. Having played a similar number of games. That trumps Shula in my book.
Title: Re: John Gruden Fired from the BUCS!! Post by: CABLEGUY1 on January 16, 2009, 09:57:11 PM Dungy's not coming back to Tampa to coach. Why would he after the way he was ousted? He was also wayyy too conservative and I don't think Tampa would have won a superbowl unless Dungy was willing to do some major changing offensively here. As for Gruden, he was awful! This is something that has been long overdue. The players didn't respect him and he carried himself as if he was bigger than the game. John Lynch should have retired as a Buc, he flat out lied to Kennan McCardell, and he has treated several othe players like trash. He'll probably land a head coaching job somewhere else in the land of coaching carousel. I must say I have to agree with every point you made. I heard the DJ on sports radio on the way home say that he already had a call from a players wife saying "thank god"! I don't recall ever hearing any players praise him. Title: Re: John Gruden Fired from the BUCS!! Post by: IXIswamperIXI on January 16, 2009, 10:10:59 PM ESPN expect Morris to be the new HC. I don't know how smart that is. I wanted Gruden out but being replaced by a nobody. I hope I am wrong!!
Title: Re: John Gruden Fired from the BUCS!! Post by: CABLEGUY1 on January 16, 2009, 10:50:34 PM Shaula may have the most wins by count.....But, George Halas has a better percentage of wins. Having played a similar number of games. That trumps Shula in my book. I was comparing Shula to Gruden not Halas. And I was talking about the most wins not the best win %. Plus Halas coached for ten years longer than Shula and had 31 ties compared to Shulas 6. And dont forget that pesky "and still history making" perfect season thing to go along with the pro football hall of fame. Nice try though. Title: Re: John Gruden Fired from the BUCS!! Post by: Da_Mtg_Man on January 16, 2009, 11:29:12 PM I think Shanahan is coming to Tampa. Either way, It's a great day today.
Title: Re: John Gruden Fired from the BUCS!! Post by: AintSkeered on January 17, 2009, 07:18:29 AM Dungy's Colts offense got him into the playoffs for the last 7-8 consecutive seasons, but, I agree he ain't gonna be a Buc, again. They'll hire a nobody and drift aimlessly like the Fins did after Shula.
Title: Re: John Gruden Fired from the BUCS!! Post by: IXIswamperIXI on January 17, 2009, 09:58:43 AM Gruden won the Superbowl with Dungy's deff.
Dungy won the Superbowl with the Colt's off. That argument is pointless. I think people forget Dungy did not draft Sapp, Brooks, and Lynch. Sam Wyche did. 1995 1st Round 12th Pick - DT Warren Sapp (Miami) 1st Round 28th Pick - OLB Derrick Brooks (FSU) 2nd Round 11th Pick - DB Melvin Johnson 4th Round 7th Pick - FS Jerry Wilson 5th Round 9th Pick - CB Clifton Abraham (FSU) 6th Round 8th Pick - LB Wardell Rouse Got lynch in 1993 Morris is the new HC I just hope the Glazier know something we don't. I wanted Gruden out but I am not sure about this move. I would have liked to see Shanahan here. Title: Re: John Gruden Fired from the BUCS!! Post by: Team Alba Z400 Rider 43 on January 17, 2009, 10:23:31 AM It would be great if Dungy came back as the General Manager, and Shannahan or Cowher became the head coach. But I really can't see it happening. Nice to think about though.
Gruden did have the best record as the Buccaneers head coach, but like said above, he inherited an already Superbowl bound team from Dungy in 2002. I think he would be a good fit in Dallas to tell you the truth. They already have a good team, he could walk right in and get something done. But with a young team like the Buccs, you have to get someone else(Cowher/Shannahan). Gruden isn't buillt to do that. Good move by the Glazer's in my opinion. I believe Shannahan already said he doesn't want to coach anymore, but only time and MONEY will dictate that. Title: Re: John Gruden Fired from the BUCS!! Post by: Ride1Rob on January 17, 2009, 12:08:53 PM Dungy's offense got him into the playoffs for the last 7-8 consecutive seasons, but, I agree he ain't gonna be a Buc, again. They'll hire a nobody and drift aimlessly like the Fins did after Shula. What Buc football team were you watching back then ??? ? It was a #1 buc defense that kept them winning games. The offense was nothing but 2yards and a cloud of dust :Wacko.gif . Title: Re: John Gruden Fired from the BUCS!! Post by: 686RAPTOR on January 17, 2009, 03:27:27 PM Shaula may have the most wins by count.....But, George Halas has a better percentage of wins. Having played a similar number of games. That trumps Shula in my book. Shula did one full season of winning all his games. Thats 100% buddy. Almost did it again the next year. Your boy Halas has nothing on Shula. RECOGNIZE PERFECTION. RECOGNIZE UNDEFEATED. RECOGNIZE 1972 MIAMI DOLPHINS!!!!! Title: Re: John Gruden Fired from the BUCS!! Post by: Busta Nutt on January 17, 2009, 05:47:34 PM think he was talking about the colts ride1rob
Title: Re: John Gruden Fired from the BUCS!! Post by: IXIswamperIXI on January 18, 2009, 09:16:54 AM One thing I don't like with Morris is that everytime someone asks him what kind of Off. or Deff. he wants to run he skirts the question everytime!
Title: Re: John Gruden Fired from the BUCS!! Post by: Ride1Rob on January 18, 2009, 02:33:47 PM think he was talking about the colts ride1rob Now that he has edited his post I see lol. Title: Re: John Gruden Fired from the BUCS!! Post by: IXIswamperIXI on January 19, 2009, 12:20:07 PM I do like these moves!
getting rid of: -Offensive Coordinator/Offensive Line coach Bill Muir -Offensive Assistant coach Jay Gruden -Assistant Offensive Line coach George Yarno. there was more but I agree with those. http://www.buccaneers.com/news/newsdetail.aspx?newsid=6917 Title: Re: John Gruden Fired from the BUCS!! Post by: rancher1 on January 21, 2009, 05:14:55 PM If he goes to the colts he can inherit another dungy team and win another super bowl.I mean dungy could win another super bowl. ;D
Title: Re: John Gruden Fired from the BUCS!! Post by: CABLEGUY1 on January 21, 2009, 08:49:01 PM If he goes to the colts he can inherit another dungy team and win another super bowl.I mean dungy could win another super bowl. ;D Man,what were the Bucs thinking with naming Raheem Morris as the new head coach? Really,the defensive back coach that was recently promoted by default because Monte Kiffin left is now the head coach? He has no experience as a head coach in any capacity.He's younger than some of the players. It looks like the Glaziers were looking for the cheapest way out,especially with so many other options out there.Don't be surprised if you see the Bucs up for sale before the start of next season. Title: Re: John Gruden Fired from the BUCS!! Post by: IXIswamperIXI on January 21, 2009, 09:23:03 PM If he goes to the colts he can inherit another dungy team and win another super bowl.I mean dungy could win another super bowl. ;D Man,what were the Bucs thinking with naming Raheem Morris as the new head coach? Really,the defensive back coach that was recently promoted by default because Monte Kiffin left is now the head coach? He has no experience as a head coach in any capacity.He's younger than some of the players. It looks like the Glaziers were looking for the cheapest way out,especially with so many other options out there.Don't be surprised if you see the Bucs up for sale before the start of next season. I know what you mean putting Morris in with NO experience. I think it is going to be like going for it on 4 and inches if you make it, its a great call if you don't it was stupid! I hope its a good call, we shall see. Title: Re: John Gruden Fired from the BUCS!! Post by: mrbones on January 22, 2009, 01:29:02 PM Yeah, we'll see. That rookie coach did good for Atlanta this year.
Title: Re: John Gruden Fired from the BUCS!! Post by: CABLEGUY1 on January 22, 2009, 08:37:17 PM Yeah, we'll see. That rookie coach did good for Atlanta this year. You never know. It all starts with the quarterback though. Look what a credible quarterback did for Miami. Of course the softer schedule hepled to. No Sims,no Griese,and most likely no Garcia. At least I have not heard of them naming a projected starter as of yet. Hopefully they pick up somebody in the off season. Title: Re: John Gruden Fired from the BUCS!! Post by: IXIswamperIXI on January 29, 2009, 04:45:12 PM Bucs hire Jeff Jagodzinski as new OC. What do you guys think about this move?
http://blogs.tampabay.com/bucs/2009/01/bucs-hire-jagod.html Title: Re: John Gruden Fired from the BUCS!! Post by: AintSkeered on January 29, 2009, 10:04:10 PM I wish him luck especially for how BC treated him and after all he's Polish, too.
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