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Does anyone have any opinions of or experience with store bought snorkels like the ones from bayou snorkels? I ride an 05 Suzuki king Quad 700 EFI and the CVT slips like crazy when i do any kind of water riding... Im not gonna do the intake just yet cuz it sits pretty high as it is... If anyone can help me out on this Id appreciate it... 

joe   u got my number. call me up    my bike is set up the same way as yours i can snorkle it for under $40(worth of parts)   and it look pro.   when do you wanna do it?

uhh now

Can I get help with my 2 Rincons and my Rancher for the same price lol ;) ;)

on the hondas u dont have to worry bout tranny you just  need to do the motor.  but with hondas   u have to get the jet kit when u do motors. i will help you  out 



joe   and gato  i am free in the mornings   and have home depot next to my house   we can do it than or on weekends     PM me  if u are intreasted sow we can set it up and get t done

Thanks Matt I will let you know I cant this weekend but will let you know for next Thanks

I did an 06 king quad...IMo they are very hard to snorkel. I've done quite a few snorkels including helping 4x4matt...the kindquad is hard to get RIGHT.  Sure you can whip it together and it might be alright...but look over on some of the other forums and see how others did it.

It was just shy of 110 dollars to do it on the king quad I did.  That was everything including the airbox.  Without the airbox it would be like 50.  So if you do the airbox, IMo spend the money and do the kit.  I'm sure you could get some help and get her done.

Try submarinesnorkels.com or do a search on yahoo for "kingquad 700 snorkel kit" and there are a few good ones.  Monster, submarine, and such are good.  I personally dont' use bayou.

i have a www.monsterpowersports.com  theres no pvc what make it nice

yea i like yours

Thanks for all the input guys, but 4x4Matt started one up for me this morning, I finished it this evening and it looks pretty submersible.... Ill let everyone know how it works hopefully this weekend... Thanks Again Matt

sweet  get those pics up!!!

No problem   Joe, Glad i could help you out.  ;D


Ricky    dont worry   it was just the tranny   and yes i double checked every seal, and yes i made it look profesinal.  I evan muser stuff   so things would line   up. I must say  king quad  was fairly simple to do the tranny.

Joe if it leaks any let me no  i will stop the leaks if it does leak.     

Hey Matt,have you done 1 for a 500 Spm HO 2004? any help wud b great.

Haha yea, try the airbox...lol.

Theres a few good ways to do it over on highlifter...those guys used PVC all the way for the cvt intake/exh, and flex hose on airbox.  The airbox is worse than my grizzly...it's HARD to get right if you haven't done it.

i have never done   that bike u talking bout   sir,  but it looks like you to far from me to   do it?  sorry   if u come down here  i will get it done for you.

Thanks,I was hoping you might have some tips for me,owell tried any way.

if u can take deatial  pics i can help you out   for a lil fee

take some pics and between me and 4x4matt we can write up a plan to get her done.  I don't want $, just PM me some pics and I'll tell you what/how you can do it.  I'm also checking on a couple forums.

Thanks guys,on duty now might be for the next 2 days,the big game up here,lots of ot,grab it when it's here!! I been wanting to do this for a while.
Hopefully I can turn my 5oo into a submarine!!! 8) 8)

No problem, I understand the OT...gotta get it while it's here! PM me and we'll see what we can do for you w/ snorkels

Well I tested the snorkel today and i got some work to do, I got leaks from every junction and the actual case is leaking... does anybody have any suggestions on what to seal the CVT with, id imagine it would have to be something i can remove fairly easily, it has a stock rubber gasket on it right now i wonder if i can just put some thick grease on it I dont know, its kinda something i wanna do right the first time cuz it is a pain to get the cover off...

Sounds like matt did it lol.  His leaked for a while until he finally sat down one day and did it right, keyword RIGHT.  Just tighten everything up and don't rig anything up.  The cvt will be sealed with black rvt gasket maker.  It's not too bad to get the cover off, just gotta do it once and right :)

The KQ i did leaked too, they are a PITA...

so did you ever get the KQ to not leak? I dont think Matt did a bad job i just think we were rushed

yes, it took just some tweaking and designing.  I tested everything before it went on the bike.  I covered the CVT with black RTV and the airbox with the same stuff.  the only leak it had was from the airbox, and it was just an area I didn't put enough silicon before. 

He told me 2hrs to do it, thats rushing it! It took me about 2 full days of work (between letting it dry and other mods), plus I did the radiator at the same time.

Just check all your connections, silicon where you need it, re-do where you need it.

What did you use for everything? Flex hose and rubber connectors? If you used PVC to connect the spa hose to the pvc then your always goign to have a leak, you need spa hose -> rubber connector -> pvc and put silicon paste between all connections.  Thats how my bike is and the only leak I ever had was a hole in the tube.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a185/jrpro130/Snorkel%20and%20Rad/DSCF3827.jpg)

see how I have pvc (note the EXTRA silicon) to rubber connection, to spa hose.  thats so it gets a good clamp and seat on the spa hose

looks great.... I picked up a couple tubes of this stuff called GOOP at Advanced and re sealed all the fittings inside and out, I think its pretty water tight. Im gonna run a hose up the snorkels and see if i have any more leaks in a couple of days.... The only big job is gonna be taking the casing off and sealing it. How big of a bead do i need to make around the seal?

make a pretty thin bead around the cvt.  Just make sure it's not too much because the excess will hang out and when you clean the bike or peel the rtv silicon it will take some of the stuff from the inside when you pull the outside.  A little bit goes a long way

So how are your snorkels done? spa hose w/ pvc and rubber connectors?

Theres really no pvc anywhere but the actual snorkels. Everything is spa hose to rubber connectors.    The only place i might put pvc is coming right out of the exhaust side. If this goop stuff doesnt make a good enough seal i might need a slight bend to take some pressure off the spa hose. Hopefully this works cuz im kinda sick of this project already :banghead.gif

so all your connections are like mine? spa hose -> rubber -> pvc? NO SPA HOSE SHOULD CONNECT DIRECTLY TO PVC...it will leak.  I don't understand why your having problems...

I did PVC all the way out of the cvt intake on the KQ.  Then for the exhaust I did about 12" of PVC coming out of the trans, then flex hose all the way up to PVC in the front.  I tried to use a little spa hose as possible.

If you take pics I'll tell you where your problems are

ok pics coming tomorrow

his problems coming   coming from same place mine was. The cover for tranny  put silcone around that and it dont leak   and the rear   of the tranny  case. silcone  in that and it wont leak.  Yes ricky it is rubber to spa hose to  pvc.  once he seals up those  2 spots   it will be 100%    if i reacal   correctly you did the snorkles on my bike and they leaked   first time(as i letmy bike float away in holylands canle) and i went back through  and when i was done with the tranny they   do not leak till this day

If you didn't silicone the drain plug, I would highly recommend it.  It took me about two months of head scratching before I figured that one out.

your bike doesn't count lol, you rigged up 90 percent of the stuff on it, and I think the only helping I did with the snorkels was drilling the little hole on the cap of the intake...and supervising, holding the flashlight if you know what i mean...

I did kevs 2 brutes, my bike, and the KQ and they are all leak free the first time except the KQ, but i figured it out now.  you can't expect it to be leak free if you only spend 2hrs on it...

i'm not saying you did a bad job, just don't understand why it's leaking.  the cvt cover shouldn't be leaking that bad...if it leaks at all it's only a little bit since it's plastic against plastic, even w/o a gasket it won't leak much.

did you guys check the drain plug, it comes out easy on the kq...jayson lost his 2x already just riding around just something to think about.

i never looked at that  i thought it was screw in like mine  my bikes not riged  its just not   the way it should be but the beast still runs jus fine

if i silicone the drain plug how am i supposed to drain it if it does get some water in?

pics so far

more

and the top 

pics aren't so great leme know if you see any problems...... I definitely appreciate all the help!

looks like you got it all  sealed. up   silicone  is easy to get off   if u need to drain it. looks like the top ened  up coming out good.  good job joe finishing it up

You use the pliers that come with the tool pack, grab a hold of it and it pulls out pretty easy.  I use the pliers to put it in and pull it out as my fingers don't fit up high enough to grab it.

I also always carry extra silicone with me so if I do need to pull the plug, I can just resilicone it before putting it back on.  RVT comes off pretty easy.

Right! ok Im thinkin ill try that last. once im sure everything is dried ill go ahead and pressure test the system before i put the bike back together. thats prolly gonna be wednesday night..

Looks good but I can see where your problems are, right where it comes out of the CVT the stock boot where it connects to the other boot doesn't look sealed all the way.  I put a 2.5" PVC there and sealed it all up with a NICE BIG home depot clamp.  Thats the only way that i got it to not leak

are you talking about the intake or the exhaust? I did put about 6lbs of silicone on both those connections cuz i was worried about them. those pics were taken before the silicone dried so it looks kinda sloppy. i figured id wait till everything dried up before i stated trimming

he was talking bout  intake  but with silcone on it you are fine

we shall see. if this doesnt work im buyin a waverunner!!!

no u dont have to do that  u just come back to my crib   and i get it water proof for you

hey matt your dads in front of me right now he says" get your a__ back to work"

Small world!

lol  he said he  goes there alot

yea i didnt recognize him when i saw him at your house, but hes here about three times a week

sweet  lol   i need to come get some 22  for my truck hope i win them in few weeks

hey if it still leaks take a piece of 2" pvc and put it inbetween the stock cvt boot and the rubber connector, thats what I was saying beofre, silicon might come off or if it twists it will break the seal.  just try what you have and see if it works first

Thanks i was thinkin of that too... im gonna try it like it is but im pretty sure its gonna need the pvc

Ill tell you what Matt I just Bought 9 sets of 22" Boyd Coddington Flares in your Bolt pattern 6/135... We are practically Givin them away $1,500.00 for the set with tires mounted and ballanced       

Here is a link to what the wheels looks like.http://www.buywheelstoday.com/products/Flare+(Chrome).bwt
they retail for $510 each all over the internet and $1,599 plus shripping for the set is the cheapest i found them on ebay 

you only have them in chrome?  i was thinkin black and polished mix would look the best for my truck because of the colors    what you think?

I can get you anything you want i just thought id let you know about this deal cuz it doesnt come around that often you know... But i will be on the look out for a good deal on some Black and polished Wheels for you 

thanx i like the american racin  tourq  wheels   you no what i am talking bout?   thats the style i think look good on my truck

I know the style well.... I will see what i can find

Snorkels worked Great!!!!!  :ThumbsUp.gif
Matt, put those pics up when you get a chance

k  joe u are the man doing 12 olcloke wheels

here  he testing out  the bike sorry if pics not the best took it on my phone

Matt may try to work something out for the w/e I may be off if it s OK with you?

i am off  all day   friday     sat i am busy    and   sunday i am free

hondas i did  quiet a few of them  and they are much easyer than  his was

Thanks Matt....

OK

there not the best but they sure get the job done   (the pics i mean)