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(I can't help but to look into Obama, deeper and deeper; the more I find, the more it really makes me wonder what the heck is going on.  I am just a simpleton when it comes to this stuff, so I am sure that there is so much more out there:)

Some of Obama's Friends:
Tony Rezko in 1983 hooked up w/Jabir Herbert Muhammad (son of Nation of Isalm leader Elijah Muhammed); campaigned to Harold Washington elected as Mayor;
In the meantime, Obama in 1983; pronounces he need for change, and how we will organize black folks; Then Obama hooks up w/Harold Washington, and get's hired by a guy name Gerald Kellman, Kellman get's a $25,000 grant from The Woods Fund to pay Obama's Salary. Woods Fund - Williams Ayers; Then later Obama is on the Board w/Williams Ayer. Gerald Kellman is a follower of Saul Alinsky, who wrote rules for radicals & Michelle Obama has been noted for quoting his book;
Also Rezko is connected w/Nadhmi Auchi, (who was a member of the Iraqi Baath Party, President of the Anglo-Arab Organization; ties to Saddam Hussein); Rezko holds a parting in honor of Auchi, guess who is there Obama, Auchi loans Rezko 3.5 million $, just after that Rezko and Obama buy adjoining lots/homes;

So let's see there are ties to Rezko, Ayers, Kellman, Auchi, Saul Alinsky,Rev Wright; do a search on anyone of these names, just to get a taste of we are dealt with.... And I sure there are many other names out there, yet to surface.

How about organizational and belief based ties; Nation of Isalm, Black Liberation Theology, Black Nationalist, Trinity Black Value System, Malcolm X; Black Power's Kwame Tuore/Black Panthers; and who can forget ACORN

The real truth is how so much of what I research can also be confirmed by Obama's Book.  Sure on some of the people he changed the names, but on some he didn't.  He leaves enough names, dates and organizations to clearly make the link. Another huge link is Chicago, seems they are all also tied to Chicago, as well.

Here are some more of his friends/mentors that are in his book; that I did a little more digging or their names, and what they stand for;
Frank Marshall Davis - well known Communist Member and radical poet;
Franz Fanon - the author of Black Skin, White Masks.;

My next task is looking into the rumor that no-one can find Obama's Thesis when he was at Harvard; and how did Obama pay for his Harvard Law Degree. 

But then what, what good does it do me or anyone else.  It is obvious the Media is just sweeping this under the rug, I just can not believe in this day or age, how much stuff can be actually hidden from the average American.  Here is another weird thing, when reseaching some of this stuff, found quite a few articles that came back "deleted by author", that crap right there in itself makes you wonder.  If just this much is available, imagine how much more is really there.  What's the old say, for everyone one rat that you see, there is aleast 10 more....

Just wish I knew what do w/all this information, it does no good, if it ain't out there, and the media surely ain't going to do anything.   >:(






 

Both canidates are rats - and honestly, neither one of them should be where they are. It's a sad time when these two guys are the best this countrys main two parties can come up with. :( I really dont see much hope for us in the near future. Something has to give and it's still going to take a lot before the bottom truely falls out.

The truth rarely sells, the media is just a business trying to make money.  Whatever sells they print.

Oh I agree, neither Candidate is all that.  It just amazes me the stuff that has come out of Obama's past, and nothing is really said.  But yet Palin shows too much leg, and the jump all over that.  It is apparent to me, that various people got Obama to where his now, and the type of connections those people have/had are just down right scarey.  I tell you, if I was Hollywood writer, I do a movie on Obama's life, cause that is stranger than fiction right there. 

Honestly, I think Biden and Palin would be better candidates than the two that are running for President.  Like my husband said last night, Biden and Palin should ran on the same ticket.... ;)

It still just blows me w/Obama, it really does....

Chero, I don't know you. But, basically, what you appear to be saying is that when popular opinion differs from our own personal opinions, it's untrue. You're strong emotions seem to be setting you up for a possible extreme life-altering disappointment. Sure, you may find some temporary solace in sharing that disappointment with others, but be cautious about joining those who'd suggest some irrational or illegal response to the disappointment. Because, it appears to be less than 4 weeks away. The truth is that tens of millions of Americans have had enough. Those tens of millions have had their opinions, not only ignored, but, lambasted for the past 8 years and they are PISSED! They don't trust an old guy who only proclaimed himself a maverick after he finally realized America wanted real change. Those people will not be electing an Islamic terrorist, no matter how hard anyone tries to convince them of it. In fact, they harder anyone tries, the more convinced they are of the need to vote for Obama.

Who else wants to pick up the pieces after the Bush Administration? Who else wants to make the impossible, possible? We are in a bad situation and it will take much more work for a following president than it has been for any other president in the past. At least they are willing to try, I guess..... ::)

Wow - didn't mean I was going to jump of any bridge, or join any right-wing nut job organization....  ;) And yes, I truly get the fact that more than likely, Obama will get it.  All I am saying, we surely need to hold people accountable for their actions, and affilations, and not just happily providing them with our vote.  That's what got us into this mess in the first place.  Most people go and vote for politicians, and have no idea who or what they stand for, but we put them in office anyway.  Then we complain because everything is such a mess...

Not only do we need to hold our Goverment accountable, and to higher standard, we also need to hold the media to that same standard, since they are the source of the "average american's information". The media takes sides with the issues, and that is wrong, because you are only going to hear what they want you to hear. But we can demand fairness from the media. The worst thing for this Country, is an uninformed America.  How can we demand honesty, and integerity to Goverment, when we as Citizens do not even know who or what we are voting for....


But then you do have the radical groups out there, and they are getting their agenda accomplished, whether it be the tree hugger cutting off more of our land to ride, or losing our 2nd Admendment Rights.  Because these groups are relentless, they raise the funds they need, they organize the folks they need, and then while the average american is not watching, they get their agendas past.  The American sits back and does nothing, so if you do nothing, than expect nothing, but more of the same....

I wasnt just talking about this election, I'm talking about the majority of elections - local and national. It seems the majority of the people who are in these big offices/parties are only there because they have money or the right connections - not because they are the man or woman for the job. Heck, it took them how many years to realize the economy was in the crapper? We've all been feeling the effects of the economy for years now - but, we have average paychecks and reality hits us A LOT faster then it hits these big guys in offices. Sometimes I really think there needs to be a salary cap. I mean, if you want to speak for the average guy then dammit you need to be an average guy!!

Just like what kawi posted on another topic.  545 People.  That's how many people we need to voted out of office, and start all over again.  And Special Interest and Lobbyist need to be kicked out on the a$$. 

People don't discuss politics, cuz we all know they are crooks.  But people are going to have to start doing something, because it just seems the choices are getting worse, and worse each year.  I can not believe w/a past such as that, you can even be considered for office.  The sad thing is, the one w/the most money wins!  And that turns out to be the person who owes the most favors.... >:(

Thanks, was worried about ya! Yes, I'm all for a complete douching of the Senate and House, as well. Today, I was watching Yosemite Sam McCain answer a town hall question which asked him if he would go after and prosecute those responsible for the current mortgage crisis. McCain answered in the affirmative, but, his Yosemite Sam maverick side came out right after that when he said he'd also go after the Barney Franks and Chris Dodds, too. That sounds great, but, it'll never happen and will just continue the retaliatory tradition which started after Nixon was forced to resign.   

Although I dont agree with you its amazing to see a contrasting view point with real substance. Fish you could learn allot from this guy. How many times in his 2 posts did he call people drunk idiots? How many times did he talk about peoples mothers and call others racists? Hmm..... o yeah 0 times. This is the kind of posts that get respect and stir real debate and views. Might wanna take notes.

Exactly!!!  Perfect Point.  although we may not agree on all the issues, atleast he don't just start ranting.. 

Honestly, I think we are on the same page, although I may see Obama differently than Aintskeered.  But there are no attacks, and no BS.. 

We do agree Washington needs to be cleaned up.  We agree there needs to be accountability.  I think we agree that Barney Frank & Christopher Dodd had there butts so far up Fannie Mae's butt, that the voters in their State need kick their butts out of office.  Beside's it is Dodd that is the all time leader in contributions from Fannie Mae.  Again, special interest, most of them in Washington ain't going to bite the hands that feed them.....  I think we agree on that....  ???

I think that Palin is like by so many, because she don't look or sound like the same old Washington Politics.  People can honestly relate to her, atleast I know I can...  (just wish I had her legs.... LOL - little humor there); but it's people like her that we truly need running for office.  Just my opinion....

I still say that McCain/Palin is the best choice in this Election, especially based on Obamas past affiliations.  Pull up anyone of those names (that I posted in the begining)  and WTF... 

I have stayed out of a lot of the politics,I am totally ageist Obma I am glad some one has told the truth about him and his veryvery faaaarrr left
low life folks he started his political life with.He has a strong connection with socialist and a admireration of socialist. THE THING THAT SHOULD
SCARE THE SKIN OFF ALL OF US NO MATTER IF YOU LOVE OR DISLIKE HIM,IS THE COMPLETE LEAF LICKING, TREE HUGGING BUGGER EATING
LEFTEIST THAT WILL BE IN HIS CABINET LIKE THE DEPT OF THE INTERIOR,JUST THINK ALL OF THE GOVREMENT OWNED LAND CLOSED!!!!!
TO ATVERS....IT CAN HAPPEN!!!!

And I thought we would get through the day without mentioning the F word..LOL Aint your right a clean flush of the whole government would be great start.

It would be refreshing for some normal working class folks that are educated to get in there and start over. No more professional life long politicians.

This is why he will get voted into office.

http://www.bpmdeejays.com/upload/hs_sal_in_Harlem_100108.mp3

You might want to go check that thread again, it was a god fearing republican that brought mothers into the conversation.  And when people don't verbally attack me I won't verbally attack them, it is that simple.  When I tried to  post facts is when I was met with the insults, which I gladly returned and will do so again if it starts up again.

What I do post is facts and not innuendo, there is a difference.  

But since we are posting facts let look at this.  Palins husband belonged to a group in Alaska that wanted to break away from the United States, he wanted to break up this country.  One of McSames delegates that recently was seen next to McSame represented a terrorist in court and she also was seen harrassing John Kerry several years ago.  Palins own minister is somewhat of a terrorist himself.  He once accused a person of being a witch and gathered up people from a village and chased her out of town, if that is not a terrorist I don't know what is.  Terrorism is the name of god is still terrorism.

 Support of our troops may have been her intention, pure and simple. However, the video of Annie Oakley Palin firing that weapon does what to sway the Obamites?

http://gunvideos.blogspot.com/2008/08/sarah-palin-rifle-training.html

And, why all the talk about going after the sub-prime mortgage lenders when we ain't going after the credit card companies who pray more on people than the sub-primers. There's more than one way to strike back if you're in too deep. There are many companies like this one that can help you;
http://www.fdrs.org/

Lets see.Gathered up people from a village and chased her out of town VERSUS intentionally piloting a plane into a building full of thousands with the intentions of mudering innocent victims. Only you Fish would think there is no difference between the two. You never sease to amaze me. Like I said numerous times. You lose credibility with every post.

What your point.  Now your saying Obama was friends with the 9/11 terrorist?  I did not say the guy is blowing up buildings but a terrorist is a terrorist is he not.  Someone that shoots abortion doctors and blows up abortion clinics is still a terrorist right.  Some american guy from the extreme right that blows up a federal building and kills people is still a terrorist is he not?  Ask the lady that was chased out of town because Palins minister thought she was a witch if she thinks this man is a terrorist.

What are you talking about?You.You made the comparison of Palins Minister to a terrorist. You made that comparison. Where did I say Obama was friends with terrorists? Are you dillusional? Seriously. Do you read any ones posts and digest them before you respond? I see why EVERYONE says you make no sense. Go back and read my response and read it again and show me where I said Obama was friends with the terrorists.Better yet go back and read it a third time and show me where I made ANY mention of Obama period in that particular response you just made mention of. You make things up.Show me where I said anything close to what you accused me of. Now,lets see if you #1 change the subject,#2 say I'm drunk or a redneck,#3 avoid answering my question or #4 admit you made a mistake in accusing me of insinuating Obama was friends with terrorists. C'mon Fish,surprise everyone and admit you were wrong.

Quit your crying, just because Palin is friends with a known terrorist and you point out that at least he was not flying planes into buildings and now you say I am confused.

Me thinketh that politics is too much for you, you just can't seem to handle it.  What next another threat?

BTW, I believe that was your (the republican) way of trying to say Obama is a terrorist or terrorist sympathizer.  Just like when the sheriff from Florida said something about Barack Hussein Obama, just trying to show that he is a muslim with a terrorist connection.  Just like the republican grasp at straws with the Ayers guy.  Obama was 8 years old when that happened.

If you do not like my assumption I pulled from your comment then maybe you should take it up with the republican party, everything they do (to take attention away from the economy) lately is try to link Obama with terrorism.  Despicable acts by a desperate group.

Report the truth? I'll report the truth for ya! In a town hall meeting yesterday, a McCainer "begged" McCain to hammer Obama on William Ayers during next week's debate and McCain fell for it proclaiming that he would. I predict that if McCain keeps his word and does so, his campaign is done, it will effectively end his career and cost the GOP a dozen congressional seats. PEOPLE ARE BEYOND SICK OF THIS kind of politics! It reveal McCain as an angry last gasping- breath tired old geezer.

McCain's only chance is to take an action research approach to the economy to identify what needs to be done and talk only about that to the people until the election. 1) Collect and report(feed back) current economic data to voters 2) Report his economic recovery program planning and implementation daily 3) Report how, when, where he'll evaluate the success of his economic plan when he's elected(and do it). Otherwise, President Obama will have carte blanche. 

FOR THE RECORD. Fishy chose # 3, He avoided answering the question. I'm sure no one was surprised! Fish as far as threatening you goes,no I will not do that. As you know in the past I let you get under my skin so much that I called you out. I did say afterwards that I was embarrased for letting you get to me so bad. Now it's the complete opposite.I laugh at everything you say and do. You proved my point just now by avoiding answering the question. You make it way to easy.

One more point on the threat. When we had are falling out a month or so ago I could not wait to meet you in the street sometime. Now that Chillin goated you into posting a picture of yourself, I really feel dumb. Based on your past threats I honestly expected you to big some huge muscle headed dude or some 6ft 8 320lb lumber jack. Now that I see your picture I can't believe you have such a big mouth. You are the true bully behind the keyboard. You look like you should have four or five ink pens in your shirt pocket with electrical tape on your glasses. Put down your industrial size bag of cheetos you bought at Sams Club and get over yourself. Be glad I came to my senses and realized how bad I made myself look for letting you get me worked up.Trust me when I tell you,I would have squashed you like a bug.I know you dont believe in God,but someone was watching out for you.Your mouth is way bigger than you are. Note to the moderators "I am not threatening the Fish". He no longer gets me riled up.I actually think he is hysterical. Remember Fish,like I always say,you lose credibility with every post. Thanks for making me laugh.

I say that all the MILLIONS of dollars that BOTH parties have spent on their
campaign, could have made a HUGE difference in the economy if intellegently used instead of cruising back and forth across the country trying to buy votes.

I personally dont think either of our choices are worth a damn, BUT, we are all going to have to make a decision in 27 days........ OR just choose not to cast a vote ??? ??? ???

Yes sir, one choice is to keep spending $10B per month in Iraq or not.

And the other choice is to set a target date to pull our troops and leave us vulnerable to numerous terrorists attacks.

If your one of the people that vote for the candidate that intends to pool out troops than hopefully you dont get haunted by this quote in the future. "I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction"

That's one mistake you wont be able to undue. Vote for your families safety.Vote McCain!

I have been waiting a long time for someone to do something but they have not done it yet and I don't think you would be the one to do it anyway.  As far as pictures go, when I saw your picture and you had that wide jaw right at your ear line and the french tickler under your nose I thought you were gay and as far as I know you are, but don't worry because I am not the type to judge you on your sexuality. 

Boy that was a good one.You showed me. You are a joke. Do you have any muscle definition at all? You look like someone from the movie deliverance. Gotta love that farmer tan though. You actually think you're a bad a$$? You should have saved face and never posted your picture. You look like you would get winded getting off the couch to brush the potatoe chips off your belly. You just keep making me laugh. You probably could catch me with a sucker punch only because I could'nt stop laughing at you. To think at one time I thought there could be a slight chance you could possibly back up your mouth.OMG,YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING. Stick to being a tough guy online. You were much more scarier before the pictures.Why would you do that? Remember ,as usual,YOU LOSE CREDIBILITY WITH EVERY POST! Your political babbling posts lose your intellectual credibility and you're pictures of yourself lose your tough guy credibility. Keep posting,you have nothing left to lose.lol.

Are you related to Freddie Mercury, the looks are very similar and maybe the acts also.

(http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:EGO0dp-QGZsJ::www.librarising.com/astrology/celebs/images2)  Yes, this is the look you are going for.

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Dang Fish ignored by 6 so far. I love the saying under your Avatar but I might point out that leaves endless possibilities to replace Bush such as McCain or Obama while we are taking this road we could put Fidel Castro there or maybe Louis Farrakhan the last three have the same type policies anyways. I mean if you compare Bush to McCain on policies , Obama - Castro - Farrakhan must be compared.


SEAN HANNITY, OF  HANNITY & COLMES ~ FOX NEWS, IS GOING TO AIR A VERY 
IMPORTANT DOCUMENTARY ABOUT BARACK OBAMA, SUNDAY NIGHT  AT 9:00 PM.  HE STATED
ON THE AIR THIS EV ENING THAT NO ONE  IN THE NEWS  MEDIA WAS WILLING TO DO THIS. 
HANNITY IS GOING BACK TO OBAMA'S  EARLIER DAYS, SHOWING EVEN THEN HIS TIES TO
RADICAL PROFESSORS, FRIENDS,  SPIRITUAL ADVISERS, Etc., HE STATED THIS EVENING
THAT HE WILL  SHOW IN DETAIL HIS TIES TO REV. WRIGHT FOR 20+ YRS (which we all 
know) HOW HE WAS  PARTICIPATING WITH THIS MAN, AND NOT FOR THE  REASONS HE
STAT ES!  HE HAS UNCOVERED MORE OF OBAMA'S RADICAL  LEADERS AND WE WILL SEE
THINGS THAT NO ONE IN THE MEDIA IS WILLING  TO PUT OUT THERE.  THIS WILL BE A
NIGHT THAT YOU WILL KNOW MORE  ABOUT OBAMA THAN EVER BEFORE.  HANNITY IS VERY 
PASSIONATE  ABOUT THIS PROGRAM AND ASKED THAT EVERYONE PLEASE,  PLEASE WATCH~~
SUNDAY NIGHT, 9 PM

Oh, Hannity, the guy that hates Jews and is associated with a white supremest group, that should be good  rolback1.

It took you all night to come up with that?????  I wont respond to you for a while because you are boring me at this point. That will give you a chance to pick up steam again.I may even join the list of people that put you on ignore. You can go back to picking on the people that let you pick on them but remember ,if you bring my name up or refer to me in any way again, I will go back to giving you more verbal beat downs. Have a nice day.

It's over. McCain is having to correct his minions' lies at town hall meetings by refuting some of the lies because he knows it's causing a voter backlash against him. So, just keep up the hysterical Obama bashing while he ignores the criticism and coasts to victory.

Cableguy1.....don't buy the crap our government and media feed us.  Both use fear and scare tactics to get you buy into their BS.  You know, if we would just invest in local security and beef up our own border security with the troops we have over there, do you really think that kind of attack will happen again?  I don't think so!!! But what do I know? I came here looking to get away from the politics and talk ridin.....

I am not the one to start it again you were, so since you it took me all night(whatever you mean by that) to come up with your Freddie Mercury picture I think I have accomplished my task.  I will be watching your post also to look for any more insults to come my way and then I will be back.

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/obama_runs_constructive_criticism

And,
WASHINGTON—Having endured weeks of pointed criticism over their aggressive questions, research-based analyses, and recent tendency to reference the candidates' actual records, America's political journalists vowed Monday to return to their long-standing tradition of lobbing meaningless questions and admiring remarks at this year's presidential and vice presidential nominees.

"On behalf of the entire American media, I would like to apologize to the free world for our unwelcome and inappropriate forays into public accountability and accurate reporting," said Leonard Downie, Jr., executive editor of The Washington Post. "We don't know what got into us. One minute we're printing Obama's iTunes playlist, but the next minute we're checking the veracity of McCain's negative campaign ads. That's not what political journalism is supposed to be about, and we are sorry."

Further reports indicate that all television news outlets will immediately cease their unnecessary vetting of the vice presidential candidates, and plans have been announced to replace the upcoming debates with an optional, multiple-choice mail-in questionnaire.