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Fish you're crossing the line with your racist comments. So here it goes.....

I bought from Mr Fish a year ago a riding lawnmower, he describe it as in mint condition with all the service done to it. I have a friend pick up the mower for me on the west side of Florida, when I pickup the mower I found the seat cracked (hhmmm he did tell me about that) Well the mower was going to be my camp mower and it didn't need to be perfect. On the second cut of the grass the transmission get stuck in gear. So I take to the repair shop to find out the transmission was trashed and rigged together. (hmmm did he lie again)

I'm the kind of guy that learn from his mistakes and it suck that you cant trust people because of people like FISH!  GREAT GOING FISH...


 

He probably left Florida because he was in deep to all his HOMO buddies.

Big Daddy your a LIAR, there was nothing wrong with that mower and I never said mint condition but I did say good condition.  You may of trashed the transmission using the mower as a quad but it was in perfect order when I sold it too you with no defects including the seat.  How low will you go, why don't you post a copy of the bill from the repair shop that says the tranny was rigged together I would love to see it.

Big Daddy, now I remember some of the threads you were involved in, it took me a minute.  So I look up your profile and what do you know, your ignored by 2 members, looked up mine and I am ignored by 0.  Yep, your always doing your drunken post where no one knows what you are talking about.  I remember you post up on here like your something but I think it was your brother that might of had a little something and you were just a pretender working for him and acting big.  Matter of fact, I think you were the reason a lot of people left this site.  Now I remember

Check your ignored now! ;)

Thank you  ;)

Krama is a good thing.........its coming Fish you will see!  ;D

BD, That was one your better written posts :lecture.gif  There are 2 sides to every story but I always notice when Fishy gets backed into a corner and he can not respond to save his azz, he will change the subject, call people names and go back to playing with himself in front of the computer. This is how he gets his rocks off.  This can not be the only site where he spews the feces that comes from his pie whole. He does this all over the internet I will bet.   :spit.gif :spit.gif :spit.gif     

Here are some of the other sites he hangs out on. Have fun with it.

http://www.atvobsession.com/board/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=408

http://www.westernbass.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=43617&f=8&sid=c809044eff5d4c2dae805a61e919479f

http://www.nvoffroad.com/memberlist.php?mode=username&order=ASC&start=50

WOW I couldn't imagine what kind of sad life I had if I hung around 3-4 websites all day trying to make new friends to debate with.

Not debating mind you. To debate means you actually have to bring an idea to the table and stick to it/discuss it. What he does is something very odd and the mark of someone who hasn't got any idea what they're talking about.

Thanks for the definition Ano ;) I guess fish must be typing over on the Homosexual Bass fisherman of the West website now. I'm sure he will respond shortly.

lol coming from the man who has more than doube the posts as him......i dont know fish and this isn't my attempt to support him....just found it funny

He is a real Bass Hole! ;D

Anoriginal....why the new name ?

LOL I just can't believe what you can get from typing a name in google.  Next it will be your blood type LMAO

i have a ton of posts too. were not arguing all the time though. all he does is start arguments with whoever will argue with him. he doesnt have one good post on here. all of it is polotical garbage.

where does the line get drawn between debating and arguing ?

I guess when you start 12 different topics in 5 days about the same useless garbage it is an argument. When you have one topic that is 20 pages long and valid point for or against the original topic is a debate.

If I ignore the fish will this just ignore his posts or any one he has posted on?

thats a pretty clear line  :)

Mudman -

Just got time for a little change.  ;)

It will just ignore his posts.

great thanks!!

One of those websites has a political section that we discuss politics and the other one they don't post political threads in.  Just like this site, if other people did not post political threads I would not.  When I came back several weeks ago (I was gone due to computer troubles) there were 3 political threads all dealing with the same issue.  You just don't like it when you have a boys club of like minded rednecks being interupted by actual facts.  Get over it.

lol

Actual facts?





 rolback1


Where? I sure haven't seen any coming from the Fish.

OJ Simpson -  First time Innocent  -  Second time Guilty  - Third time Guilty.  These are facts. Oswald acted alone - Fiction. 

The economy sucks that is a fact and Bush as commander and chief is the fall guy and when Bush goes down so does the republican party.

Yet another brilliant post from Fish.

I've actually got other people visiting the site just to laugh at your posts (seriously, no kidding). Everyone thinks you're an idiot. Now, when we want to refer to each other in a derogatory manner while joking around, we will call each other "Fish".

True story.

You must have some sort of crush on Fish, but I will tell you the same thing I told a certain moderator, I don't swing that way but I also I don't judge you because you were born that way.

Are you getting ready to quit again or are you gonna call it a readjustment.

What's wrong Fishy? Scared to take me to task on the issues so you're grasping onto weak straws like my screen name change? Everyone know's you are afraid. It's okay that you are incapable. We all figured it out.

 rolback1

Quitter, flip-flopper.  Boy I hope your a better lawyer than you are a McSame lover, because I ask you what has the republican party did that was so good that I should vote for them and here is the answer I got from you.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 That's right nothing but you know your right, the republican party has done nothing for this country in the last 8 years that would warrant my vote.

McSame lover, go talk to your boy about him paying your tax bill, don't be afraid he is too young to understand right now but when he gets his tax bills when is older he will understand.

What a SAD man to have to bring peoples children into this.

Wacker -

Yep, he's pathetic. Typical response from someone who lacks the intelligence, knowledge, capacity and class to maturely discuss an issue.

Fish -

I've already smacked you down on this whole "future tax burden" dream you keep referring to.

Also, you keep referring to the past (because it's the only thing you're capable of) and not focusing on the future. Everyone knows hind sight is 20/20. A smart person concentrates on the future and the plans and policies proposed by the two men who (one of them) will be the next president. That's a concept that eludes you.

Moreover, your mind is so clouded and jumbled that you can't grasp the impact of the House and Senate members, their party affiliations, proposals and role. Instead, your so feeble minded that you can think on one track and one track alone. For you, that's a hatred of GWB. Everything is his fault according to you. This mindset only proves that you have no understanding of economics or the American political system.

Reading your posts is, quite frankly, scary. It's disheartening to think that there are people like you in America who are so disconnected with reality and who lack an operating understanding of the issues at hand yet, you will be voting. Go back and read your posts. You've said nothing. You've brought nothing to the table. You've yet to demonstrate even the smallest understanding of the issues. Instead, you've name called, shirked issues and direct questions, started new threads every time you start to get backed into a corner and basically made yourself look foolish. How embarrassing.

Most telling though is your last comment. "... the republican party has done nothing for this country in the last 8 years that would warrant my vote. " This is proof positive that you vote the party line verses the individual. What a childish mistake that shows your failure at free thought and consideration. Actually, it may be more along the lines of insecurity in your ability to make an informed decision for yourself. So, you allow yourself to be led by the nose into a party vote.

You call me a McCain lover. Yet, had you paid attention, you'd see that nothing could be further from the truth. I never wanted McCain. However, the fact of the matter is that he is the better choice to run America over Obama. This is easy to establish (and I have) on any level or issue.

If Obama wins, so be it. I will support him. However, it will be a sad example of how uninformed, easily led and pacifist American's have become. Folks like you though, will never know the difference.

You should go away. Nobody likes you or wants you here. You bring nothing to the table and haven't the ability to discuss things at any level approaching understanding or maturity.  Quite frankly, you're getting boring.

I am not the type to quit like you have shown yourself to be.

See what I mean folks?

Maybe if you keep posting, you get your bff club to come over and give you a big hug.  You guys can all join hands and sing a campfire song, but you have still shown yourself to be a quitter and you will still be you when it's all said and done.

RealityNO, how are you NOT passing your tax bill to your son and his children.  If you don't think you are then you don't know what reality is.

I have an idea. Every time fish posts we all respond with the same answer.

LOOSER!!

 :'( :'( :'(  oh, let's all stand behind TRX-450R so he won't fell all alone.  TRX needs to feel he is part of something,  :'(

If TRX 450R  did not stand for  =TOTAL RACIST 450 REDNECK , I would actually have more feeling for you.

 :'( :'( :'(  oh, let's all stand behind TRX-450R so he won't fell all alone.  TRX needs to feel he is part of something, 

If TRX 450R  did not stand for  =TOTAL RACIST 450 REDNECK , I would actually have more feeling for you.

Fish-

Like I said, you haven't a clue. I pay my share and the shares of the countless others who don't pay. Fact of the matter is, over 85% of the taxes paid in this country are paid by less than 20% of the population. That's how I'm "not passing on my tax bill".

The only thing we'll be passing on to our children if Obama has is way is a perpetuation of freeloaders and entitlement seekers that will cost our children trillions in the future.

I know you won't understand it though. You are not capable. It's not your fault, you either have the capacity or you do not. In your case...you don't.

Actually you might check your spelling on that one, looser  rolback1 rolback1 rolback1

GO AWAY WE ALL HATE YOU!!

That better?

Fish, do you realize that if someone was considering supporting your candidate that your presentation, and demeanor is enough to turn away potential supporters.  If your truly belive in what you are posting perhaps you should try a more positive, objective approach.  The info. you are spewing does nothing except turn people away from the real focus here.  You could quite frankly be responsible for turning people away from the candidate that you support.  What is going on here appears to be nothing more than a toddler stomping his foot and shouting "mine, mine , mine".  Enough already.

I am practicing my right to hit the IGNORE BUTTON!!  ;) ;D ;D ;D

I still have that right, don't I???  :o :-\ ::)

Thank you for not insulting me like the masses.  It's true, my harsh demeanor could turn some one away from my choice but I doubt it.  First, most people already have there minds made up, anyone that does not has not been paying attention the last 8 years.  Second, if people are so weak minded that a supporter of the person they were thinking of voting for made them  change there mind then most likely they were not going to vote for that person anyway.  Beside that, if you look, the insults are going both ways, they are not just from me.  You may see more from me because I am addressing multiple people.  They also were the ones to start with the insults, not me, but I will stoop to what ever level they want to take it too.

So, who is going to pay for the over $4,000,000,000,000 that we have added to the national debt?  Bush and the republicans almost doubled the national debt in 8 years.  If our gov't does not collect enough taxes to pay it's bills then it borrows money which is added to the national debt.  Since your party (the republicans) insist on cutting taxes (which makes them look good to voters) but then turns around and borrows money to run the country (which evidently most people don't realize) then in a sense, you are not paying your share of taxes.  Neither am I for that matter but then again I did not vote for Bush.

Anyone would be for lower taxes, but to lower taxes and then borrow money to run the country just puts our burden on future generations.  Am I not right about this at least.

You can start by spreading the taxes out over a broader range and lessening the burden on those already paying the majority. Then cut back on the social welfare programs that suck us dry and create a class of people who are born thinking the government owes them a hand out. Reward struggle and not laziness. Personally, I pay a ridiculous amont of taxes and I can't withstand any more. Let everyone else pay their share too. Sometimes, that flat tax looks mighty good to me. hard o argue when everone is treated the same.

Also, don't artificially inflate the economy. In my opinion the bailout is a terrible idea. $700B for what? It's a band aid on cancer. that's money the tax payers will never get back. If you want to stimulate the economy and get a return on the taxpayers money, invest it back into the broken banking system in the form of capital contributions in exchange for stock. In other words, don't lend the money to the banks, buy into them and up their capital (which is what they all need right now). In exchange, the government (the people) get common stock with a promise of return.

Also, free up the credit marks for the banks. Allow them to write off the capital requirements in a manner equal to the current depreciated value of those assets the financed. Why should the banks have to suffer the 100% holding rule when the assets held are in the tank as much as 50% or more? Allowing this would further strengthen America's dollar and decrease our dependence on foreign loans.

As a result, not only are we more autonomous but, the American tax payer sees an immediate impact in the form of increased domestic capital expenditure, increased lending (under the new restrictions) and a more productive country. Also, the taxpayers know that their money is at least in a position to get a return based upon the stock ownership.

That's just for starters. There's tons more to do absent raising taxes on those who are already taxed to the hilt. Remember, in today's global economy, the more you tax big business, the more likely they are to pack up and leave. One things for sure. Raising taxes while creating new social welfare programs (infastructure rehab and green energy expenditures to the tune of almost 1 trillion dollars) isn't going to solve anything.

Oh, and I am a registered Democrat.

All that sounds fine (the parts I understand) but that does not change the fundamental way the republicans have ever done anything.  Like I said I would love to have my tax bill cut but not at the expense of postponing the payment on to future generations like for your kids and mine and our grandchildren.

Even giving Bush and the republicans credit for fighting the wars in Iraq (700 billion) and  Afghanistan (maybe 300 billion if that) they are still pumping up deficits of over 3 trillion dollars for the Bush 8 years.  This is not a 1 or 2 year thing it's every year spending more than they take in but yet they expect people not to live beyond their means when the gov't does it more than anyone.

I am sure the democrats will also have deficits (especially now if they inherit this economy) but if you look at the chart someone posted which I will try to find, the deficits go down dramatically with the dems.  It's worth it to me to pay a few more dollars in taxes now then my grandkids paying a whole lot more later because of our selfishness.

The deficits go down, because in general, democrats raise taxes.

The tax cuts that are currently in place, will expire after Bush leaves office, that alone will increase taxes.  When the ecomony, and people are struggling as we are now, it is not the time raise taxes or increase spending. 

Some where, I have it all written down, Obama's proposed "new" spending, and without even counting healthcare, it is just over a trillion dollars.  And most of that money is either going to more entitlement programs, or countries like Pakastan.  Speaking of Pakastan, Obama states on his website, "The War We Need To Win", whereas we need to end to war to in Iraq, so we can get on the right battleground.  Pakistan and Afganistan.  And at the same time, we wants to increase "non-military" funding to Pakistan. 

Obama's proposed increased taxes on Small Business and Corporations.  That concerns me.  Obama says, his tax increase will only apply to 5% of Small Business; I find that hard to believe, and know that not to be true.  His tax increase will apply to the company that my husband works for; therefore, will affect us.  If tax is raised to 25 - 28%, that's a persons salary.  That means for that company to continue to make profits, they are going to have to cut jobs, and the more profits that company makes, the more jobs they will have to cut.  How does that make since.  This also applies to the company my neighbor works for, they fall into this category, that Obama says is only 5% of the small business. 

Instead of raising taxes on small business; I rather see that additional 10 - 15% stay within the company, so that company can continue to pay their employees, and create more jobs.  On top of that, Obama wants to raise the minimum wage to $9.15 hour, which is fine, but you can't do that on top of raising taxes.  It will put too much of squeeze on small business.

Raising taxes on Corporations, is just going to make more Large Corporations, move out of the Country, how is that going to help the economy.  As a Country, we need offer incentives for these large companies to come back into the US, not chase more out by raising their taxes. 

Just my opinion.....

READ AND THEN THINK ABOUT THIS ONE

*/Whether you agree or not, whether you are a Democrat or a Republican,
this is a very interesting article and should give everyone in this
country something to think about , mull over, discuss./*

* *545 PEOPLE
*By Charlie Reese *
**
Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and
then campaign against them.

Have you ever wondered why, if both the Democrats and the Republicans
are against deficits,  WHY do we have deficits?

Have you ever wondered why, if all the politicians are against inflation
and high taxes, WHY do we have the inflation and high taxes?

You and I don't propose a federal budget.   The President does.

You and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on
appropriations.   The House of Representatives does.

You and I don't write the tax code, Congress does.

You and I don't set fiscal policy, Congress does.

You and I don't control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does.

One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president, and nine Supreme
Court justices  545 human beings out of the 300 million  **are directly,
legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems
that plague this country.

I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem
was created by the Congress.   In 1913, Congress delegated its
Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally
chartered, but private, central bank.

I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason.
They have no legal authority.   They have no ability to coerce a
senator, a congressman, or a president to do one cotton-picking thing.
I don't care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash.
The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the
lobbyist promises, it is the legislator's responsibility to determine
how he votes.

Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that
what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con
regardless of party.

What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive
amount of gall_*.   For instance, no 'normal human being' would have the
gall of any Speaker of The House to stand up and criticize a current
President for creating deficits .   _The President can only propose a
budget.   He cannot force the Congress to accept it._

The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole
responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and
approving appropriations and taxes.    Who is the Speaker of the
House?  The leader of the majority party.  **He_/__She and fellow House
Members, not the President, can approve any budget they want._**   If
the President vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to
do so.

*_It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million cannot
replace 545 people who stand convicted -- by present facts -- of
incompetence and irresponsibility.   I can't think of a single domestic
problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people.   When you
fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the
federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they
want to exist.
_
*If the tax code is unfair, it's because they made it unfair**.

If the budget is in the red, it's because they put it in the red.

If the Army & Marines are in IRAQ , it's because they put them in IRAQ .

If they do not receive **social security but are on an elite retirement
plan not available to the people, it's because they want it that way
(and believe me, they do!) *
*There are no insoluble government problems.

*_Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they
hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and
advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to
regulate and from whom they can take this power.   Above all, do not let
them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical
forces like 'the economy,' 'inflation,' or 'politics' that prevent them
from doing what they take an oath to do

Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible.

They, and they alone, have the power.

*They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are
their bosses _provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own
employees_.*

Why don't we just vote ALL of them out of office and clean up their
mess!
                               
*What you do with this article now that you have read it is up to you,
though you appear to have several choices.*
* 1.     You can send this to others, and hope' they' do something about
it. *
*2.     You can agree to 'vote against' everyone that is currently in
office, knowing that the process will take several years.*
*3.     You can decide to 'run for office' yourself and agree to do the
job properly.*
*4.     Lastly, you can sit back and do nothing, or re-elect the current
bunch.*
**

 

Great post!!!!  Something surely needs to be done!!!