Title: This blew my mind. Post by: klutchbuster400 on September 17, 2008, 08:51:05 AM I got back my first algebra test today. I got a 55-F, which I thought was the wierdes thing, so when the prof. went over the test, turns out he magically mixed in my scantron with a different test form. Anyways, it turns out I got a 90-A. Thats not what this is about this, but its leading to it. One of the questions I did get wrong was, -5 squared. I was taught since middle school and a negative squared turns into a postive. Either the stereotype about public school is right, or my teacher is nuts, because he said -5 squared is negative 25, not positive 25.
Just venting, but seriously wth, I've never seen it solved that way. Title: Re: This blew my mind. Post by: shogun323 on September 17, 2008, 08:59:00 AM You are looking at it as -5 * -5. That does equal positive 25.
Algaebraicly it is written like this. -(5 squared) = -25 So the negative is applied after 5 is squared. I hate algebra. I failed it in high school. >:( Title: Re: This blew my mind. Post by: Da_Mtg_Man on September 17, 2008, 09:55:58 AM It never made sense to me either. Logically thinking/speaking, Whe you multiplyor square a negative then you are just going deeper in the hole. Think of it this way. I write 5 checks for $5 each and have a 0 balance in my account. Well, I'm now $25 in the hole.
Title: Re: This blew my mind. Post by: Keeter on September 17, 2008, 10:29:12 AM It never made sense to me either. Logically thinking/speaking, Whe you multiplyor square a negative then you are just going deeper in the hole. Think of it this way. I write 5 checks for $5 each and have a 0 balance in my account. Well, I'm now $25 in the hole. Good Lord!! What hole? Write a check to JoeDirt for his generator. b:r Title: Re: This blew my mind. Post by: klutchbuster400 on September 17, 2008, 10:32:46 AM Its just funny that now its explained to me. In highschool they always taught us a negative times a negative gives a positive, same with exponents. I mean, when you put -5 squared into a calculator, even that gives you a positive 25.
Title: Re: This blew my mind. Post by: KAW3604x4 on September 17, 2008, 10:51:50 AM Its just funny that now its explained to me. In highschool they always taught us a negative times a negative gives a positive, same with exponents. I mean, when you put -5 squared into a calculator, even that gives you a positive 25. Not sure what kind of calculator you have, but you may want to buy one that gives you the right answers. ??? -5 squared in my calculater gives me an answer of -25. ;) Title: Re: This blew my mind. Post by: likitysplit on September 17, 2008, 11:08:37 AM put the (-5) in parentheses then square it and see waht you get
Title: Re: This blew my mind. Post by: Keeter on September 17, 2008, 11:30:37 AM Its just funny that now its explained to me. In highschool they always taught us a negative times a negative gives a positive, same with exponents. I mean, when you put -5 squared into a calculator, even that gives you a positive 25. Not sure what kind of calculator you have, but you may want to buy one that gives you the right answers. ??? -5 squared in my calculater gives me an answer of -25. ;) Is that the same calculator you used to charge me for my deck? ;D No wonder your price was sooo good. Title: Re: This blew my mind. Post by: KAW3604x4 on September 17, 2008, 12:04:05 PM Is that the same calculator you used to charge me for my deck? ;D No wonder your price was sooo good. That'd be the one! :o No wonder I didn't make any money on it! ??? ;D ;D ;D And yes (-5) squared produces 25 on my calculater. ::) Title: Re: This blew my mind. Post by: Kaw3604x4 Princess on September 17, 2008, 01:14:59 PM Is that the same calculator you used to charge me for my deck? ;D No wonder your price was sooo good. That'd be the one! :o No wonder I didn't make any money on it! ??? ;D ;D ;D And yes (-5) squared produces 25 on my calculater. ::) You would think that you would have realized something was wrong when you were paying Keeter for the pleasure of building his deck. ;D Title: Re: This blew my mind. Post by: qt314nfla on September 17, 2008, 01:15:08 PM It never made sense to me either. Logically thinking/speaking, Whe you multiplyor square a negative then you are just going deeper in the hole. Think of it this way. I write 5 checks for $5 each and have a 0 balance in my account. Well, I'm now $25 in the hole. Well I know my bank charges $35 for bounced checks. So wouldn't that leave you $25 in the hole, plus $175 in bounced check fees? ;) :( Title: Re: This blew my mind. Post by: KAW3604x4 on September 17, 2008, 01:23:40 PM You would think that you would have realized something was wrong when you were paying Keeter for the pleasure of building his deck. ;D Yep! You'd a thought! :( Title: Re: This blew my mind. Post by: Keeter on September 17, 2008, 02:39:10 PM Is that the same calculator you used to charge me for my deck? ;D No wonder your price was sooo good. That'd be the one! :o No wonder I didn't make any money on it! ??? ;D ;D ;D And yes (-5) squared produces 25 on my calculater. ::) You would think that you would have realized something was wrong when you were paying Keeter for the pleasure of building his deck. ;D I call it friendship dues. :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) Title: Re: This blew my mind. Post by: KAW3604x4 on September 17, 2008, 02:56:17 PM I call it friendship dues. :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) That's funny, 'cause, I call it "LESSON LEARNED" !!!!! :o :P :P ;) ;D ;D Title: Re: This blew my mind. Post by: Da_Mtg_Man on September 17, 2008, 02:57:31 PM It never made sense to me either. Logically thinking/speaking, Whe you multiplyor square a negative then you are just going deeper in the hole. Think of it this way. I write 5 checks for $5 each and have a 0 balance in my account. Well, I'm now $25 in the hole. Well I know my bank charges $35 for bounced checks. So wouldn't that leave you $25 in the hole, plus $175 in bounced check fees? ;) :( lol.... Yeah, see, Even more in the hole now. Title: Re: This blew my mind. Post by: Keeter on September 17, 2008, 03:50:11 PM I call it friendship dues. :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) That's funny, 'cause, I call it "LESSON LEARNED" !!!!! :o :P :P ;) ;D ;D I will make it up you on the next job. PROMISE ;) I have a couple of projects in mind. :bow.gif :bow.gif :bow.gif Thanks again Title: Re: This blew my mind. Post by: KAW3604x4 on September 17, 2008, 03:55:12 PM I will make it up you on the next job. PROMISE ;) I have a couple of projects in mind. :bow.gif :bow.gif :bow.gif Thanks again ;D ;D ;D ;D How much will that cost me? :o ;D ;D ;D ;D I was kidding about "LESSON LEARNED"! Turned out to make a good friend! Thanks Keeter! ;) Title: Re: This blew my mind. Post by: Team Alba Z400 Rider 43 on September 17, 2008, 03:56:34 PM You are just going to have to break it to your professor that he is wrong. -5 squared is positive 25. I'm in Calculus.
Title: Re: This blew my mind. Post by: NYRAPTOR on September 17, 2008, 05:02:18 PM (-5) x (-5) = 25
-5 squared = -25 different but the same, the same but different. Title: Re: This blew my mind. Post by: mrbones on September 17, 2008, 05:04:52 PM Google Speaks.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=-5+squared&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq= (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=-5+squared&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=) Title: Re: This blew my mind. Post by: KAW3604x4 on September 17, 2008, 06:05:43 PM Google Speaks. [url]http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=-5+squared&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=[/url] ([url]http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=-5+squared&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=[/url]) Damn it! My calculator does work!! ;) ;) ;) Then why am I losing so much money? :( Title: Re: This blew my mind. Post by: LakeMaryKid on September 17, 2008, 06:18:29 PM Yep.
-(5) squared = -25 -5 squared = 25 Parentheses first ;) -Curtis- Title: Re: This blew my mind. Post by: gery350 on September 17, 2008, 07:10:10 PM the same rule applies. the negative outside the parenthesis is considered a number, negative 1.
so -1(5 squared) = -1(25)= -1 times 25 = -25 (neg) times (pos) = (neg) :lecture.gif Title: Re: This blew my mind. Post by: NYRAPTOR on September 17, 2008, 07:21:11 PM do it in reverse, " the square root of -25 = -5"
Title: Re: This blew my mind. Post by: quadracer1992 on September 17, 2008, 09:09:35 PM do it in reverse, " the square root of -25 = -5" Its impossible to take the square root of a negative number. Unless of course you take into account the Unreal numbers and the variable i. Think of it like this, a negative times a negative gives you a positive, and a negative times a positive gives you a negative. But trying to take the square root of -25, -5 x +5, you get two different numbers. Therefore, there is no one number that is the square root of a negative, unless you use 5i, which is a whole other story.Title: Re: This blew my mind. Post by: Keeter on September 18, 2008, 09:25:16 AM Google Speaks. [url]http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=-5+squared&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=[/url] ([url]http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=-5+squared&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=[/url]) Damn it! My calculator does work!! ;) ;) ;) Then why am I losing so much money? :( Because your a nice guy. :Fp :Fp :Fp :Fp |