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Title: Shooting at River Ranch?
Post by: Anoriginal on March 25, 2008, 11:01:33 AM
Hey, I heard a man was shot and killed while turkey hunting in River Ranch recently. Anyone got any details?

That's terrible if true.


Title: Re: Shooting at River Ranch?
Post by: shogun323 on March 25, 2008, 11:08:26 AM
Man killed in hunting accident

Last Edited: Friday, 21 Mar 2008, 4:01 PM EDT
Created: Friday, 21 Mar 2008, 1:15 PM EDT

The shooting took place on the property of the River Ranch Acres Hunt Club in Lake Wales.
LAKE WALES - The Polk County Sheriff's Office is investigating an apparent accidental shooting at the River Ranch Acres Hunt Club.

Shane Hasting, 39, was out hunting for turkey with his 6-year-old son when he shot at a turkey with his 12-gauge shotgun.

When he went to see what he shot, he found he'd hit 49-year-old Randall Williamson with the birdshot and killed him.

Williamson was sitting in what is known as a "squatter's chair," wearing camouflage clothing, boots, mesh over his face, and holding a camouflage shotgun.

Detectives say they're treating the shooting as an accident and no charges will be filed

http://www.local6.com/news/15667578/detail.html




Title: Re: Shooting at River Ranch?
Post by: renmus on March 25, 2008, 11:08:46 AM
It was in the Lakeland Ledger.  You could probably find the article.


Title: Re: Shooting at River Ranch?
Post by: Anoriginal on March 25, 2008, 11:15:48 AM
Man that sucks. Sorry to hear it.


Title: Re: Shooting at River Ranch?
Post by: SWAMP_DONKEY on March 25, 2008, 11:18:51 AM
Man that sucks. Sorry to hear it.

 Yea the guy that shot him was hunting with his 6 year old son.  That is one thing I hate about hunting, too many folks out there without Safety training.


Title: Re: Shooting at River Ranch?
Post by: shogun323 on March 25, 2008, 11:55:41 AM
I feel bad for all parties involved. I know Turkeys have excellent vision but is it common practice in turkey hunting to shoot without actually seeing the bird?

Sorry if this is a dumb question. Although I am quite a gun enthusiast, I am not an avid hunter.


Title: Re: Shooting at River Ranch?
Post by: Anoriginal on March 25, 2008, 12:07:20 PM
You never shoot without knowing what you're shooting at, knowing what's behind your target and knowing you can make a clean kill.


Title: Re: Shooting at River Ranch?
Post by: SWAMP_DONKEY on March 25, 2008, 12:11:45 PM
You never shoot without knowing what you're shooting at, knowing what's behind your target and knowing you can make a clean kill.

 Ye sir, one reason I went to Bow Hunting only... more pure and less folks out there with the "if its BROWN its DOWN" mentality.  Clean Kill shot is something most hunters seem to forget.


Title: Re: Shooting at River Ranch?
Post by: shogun323 on March 25, 2008, 12:47:39 PM
You never shoot without knowing what you're shooting at, knowing what's behind your target and knowing you can make a clean kill.
It seems only logical. Sad event.


Title: Re: Shooting at River Ranch?
Post by: Sleazy_Rider78 on March 25, 2008, 01:00:58 PM
I have never been hunting either but would like to one day.  I have heard conflicting theories as to where you should aim for a "clean shot".  I have heard aim for the neck but have also heard to aim for the heart.  Anyone have some advice?


Title: Re: Shooting at River Ranch?
Post by: Anoriginal on March 25, 2008, 01:37:31 PM
Depends on what you're hunting for, what you're hunting with and where you are in relation to what you're going to shoot.


Title: Re: Shooting at River Ranch?
Post by: SWAMP_DONKEY on March 25, 2008, 01:47:10 PM
I have never been hunting either but would like to one day.  I have heard conflicting theories as to where you should aim for a "clean shot".  I have heard aim for the neck but have also heard to aim for the heart.  Anyone have some advice?

 Well when turkey Hunting you always want the HEAD!! At least the hunter had that part right. When deer hunting it depends on the Shot you have, the neck is a viable shot if the deer offers you nothing else. The Lung Heart shot is Ideal when you are afforded that as a clean shot. The neck shot can mess up the cape if you intend to mount the animal. READ READ READ before you go and be safe and aware of your surroundings. JMO
Scott


Title: Re: Shooting at River Ranch?
Post by: shogun323 on March 25, 2008, 03:17:36 PM
I wonder if the guy had a decoy out and that's what the hunter was shooting at? It would make alot more sense.


Title: Re: Shooting at River Ranch?
Post by: SWAMP_DONKEY on March 25, 2008, 03:19:18 PM
I wonder if the guy had a decoy out and that's what the hunter was shooting at? It would make alot more sense.

 I think that was the case.


Title: Re: Shooting at River Ranch?
Post by: birddog0219 on March 25, 2008, 03:22:30 PM
I heard from some one out there and was told the shooter did shot at the decoy not a real bird.


Title: Re: Shooting at River Ranch?
Post by: big-daddy on March 25, 2008, 03:35:24 PM
10/22 ruger, No scope, 30yds, head shot......... thats my boy. ;D

(http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/6646/img006jb5tu3.jpg)



Know where YOUR bullet is going to stop, before shooting!  rule one


Title: Re: Shooting at River Ranch?
Post by: shogun323 on March 25, 2008, 03:41:46 PM
10/22 ruger, No scope, 30yds, head shot......... thats my boy. ;D

Nice!!!! You should be one proud big-daddy!!


Title: Re: Shooting at River Ranch?
Post by: big-daddy on March 25, 2008, 03:47:29 PM
Yeap....... boy can shoot. 3 hogs and 1 turkey last hunting season.  ;)


Title: Re: Shooting at River Ranch?
Post by: FIRELT on March 25, 2008, 04:19:25 PM
I HAVE KNOW THE GENTLEMAN THAT WAS KILLED AND HIS FAMILY FOR A LONG TIME ,TALKED TO HE'S FATHER INLAW TODAY,HE TOLD ME RANDY WAS SITTING IN A BLIND ,IN A CHAIR,WHEN HE WAS SHOT,THERE WERE NO DECOYS OUT,THEY THINK MAYBE HE WAS CALLING TURKEYS WHEN HE WAS SHOT BUT NOT SURE.ALSO HE SAID THAT THERE MAY HAVE BEEN UP TO THREE SHOOT FIRED AND THAT UP TO TWO MAY HAVE HIT HIM.HE WAS HIT FROM THE SIDE WITH NUMBER 1 BUCK SHOT(TO BIG FOR TURKEY HUNTING),THIS IS A VERY CLOSE FAMILY AND IF YOU WILL PLEASE KEEP THEM IN YOUR PRAYERS.


Title: Re: Shooting at River Ranch?
Post by: SWAMP_DONKEY on March 25, 2008, 04:41:12 PM
I HAVE KNOW THE GENTLEMAN THAT WAS KILLED AND HIS FAMILY FOR A LONG TIME ,TALKED TO HE'S FATHER INLAW TODAY,HE TOLD ME RANDY WAS SITTING IN A BLIND ,IN A CHAIR,WHEN HE WAS SHOT,THERE WERE NO DECOYS OUT,THEY THINK MAYBE HE WAS CALLING TURKEYS WHEN HE WAS SHOT BUT NOT SURE.ALSO HE SAID THAT THERE MAY HAVE BEEN UP TO THREE SHOOT FIRED AND THAT UP TO TWO MAY HAVE HIT HIM.HE WAS HIT FROM THE SIDE WITH NUMBER 1 BUCK SHOT(TO BIG FOR TURKEY HUNTING),THIS IS A VERY CLOSE FAMILY AND IF YOU WILL PLEASE KEEP THEM IN YOUR PRAYERS.

OMG... Buck shot??  That is hard to believe. They will definitely be in our prayers :'(


Title: Re: Shooting at River Ranch?
Post by: renmus on March 25, 2008, 04:45:06 PM
I HAVE KNOW THE GENTLEMAN THAT WAS KILLED AND HIS FAMILY FOR A LONG TIME ,TALKED TO HE'S FATHER INLAW TODAY,HE TOLD ME RANDY WAS SITTING IN A BLIND ,IN A CHAIR,WHEN HE WAS SHOT,THERE WERE NO DECOYS OUT,THEY THINK MAYBE HE WAS CALLING TURKEYS WHEN HE WAS SHOT BUT NOT SURE.ALSO HE SAID THAT THERE MAY HAVE BEEN UP TO THREE SHOOT FIRED AND THAT UP TO TWO MAY HAVE HIT HIM.HE WAS HIT FROM THE SIDE WITH NUMBER 1 BUCK SHOT(TO BIG FOR TURKEY HUNTING),THIS IS A VERY CLOSE FAMILY AND IF YOU WILL PLEASE KEEP THEM IN YOUR PRAYERS.

He is already there. 


Title: Re: Shooting at River Ranch?
Post by: big-daddy on March 25, 2008, 04:46:22 PM
Sorry to hear that... :(   I was wonder what shot he was using. The normal shot is 4 shot and max is BB. Not 0 buckshot!


Title: Re: Shooting at River Ranch?
Post by: Da_Mtg_Man on March 25, 2008, 05:04:34 PM
I HAVE KNOW THE GENTLEMAN THAT WAS KILLED AND HIS FAMILY FOR A LONG TIME ,TALKED TO HE'S FATHER INLAW TODAY,HE TOLD ME RANDY WAS SITTING IN A BLIND ,IN A CHAIR,WHEN HE WAS SHOT,THERE WERE NO DECOYS OUT,THEY THINK MAYBE HE WAS CALLING TURKEYS WHEN HE WAS SHOT BUT NOT SURE.ALSO HE SAID THAT THERE MAY HAVE BEEN UP TO THREE SHOOT FIRED AND THAT UP TO TWO MAY HAVE HIT HIM.HE WAS HIT FROM THE SIDE WITH NUMBER 1 BUCK SHOT(TO BIG FOR TURKEY HUNTING),THIS IS A VERY CLOSE FAMILY AND IF YOU WILL PLEASE KEEP THEM IN YOUR PRAYERS.

Please tell the family that they are in my prayers. I think I can speak for everyone on this one.


Title: Re: Shooting at River Ranch?
Post by: eldiablo64 on March 25, 2008, 05:23:18 PM
confuscious say never go turkey hunting while wearing indian headdress


Title: Re: Shooting at River Ranch?
Post by: AintSkeered on March 25, 2008, 09:30:58 PM
It can happen to you, so stay away from River Ranch!


Title: Re: Shooting at River Ranch?
Post by: Muddbuggy on March 25, 2008, 10:23:22 PM
It can happen anywhere it's sad that it had to happen at the Ranch but that's why you should practice safety. Saying stay away from River Ranch is a bit extreme I think!


Title: Re: Shooting at River Ranch?
Post by: SWAMP_DONKEY on March 25, 2008, 10:27:05 PM
It can happen to you, so stay away from River Ranch!

 Thats like saying someone died at croom on a 4-wheeler....BETTER STAY AWAY.  :(


Title: Re: Shooting at River Ranch?
Post by: logandzwon on March 26, 2008, 10:22:07 AM
It can happen to you, so stay away from River Ranch!

 Thats like saying someone died at croom on a 4-wheeler....BETTER STAY AWAY.  :(

No, no, croom is fine, everyone go there, not River Ranch.


Title: Re: Shooting at River Ranch?
Post by: renmus on March 26, 2008, 10:43:00 AM
Please try to remember that this is about a life lost, not a petty argument.


Title: Re: Shooting at River Ranch?
Post by: Peeper on March 26, 2008, 11:42:56 AM
I HAVE KNOW THE GENTLEMAN THAT WAS KILLED AND HIS FAMILY FOR A LONG TIME ,TALKED TO HE'S FATHER INLAW TODAY,HE TOLD ME RANDY WAS SITTING IN A BLIND ,IN A CHAIR,WHEN HE WAS SHOT,THERE WERE NO DECOYS OUT,THEY THINK MAYBE HE WAS CALLING TURKEYS WHEN HE WAS SHOT BUT NOT SURE.ALSO HE SAID THAT THERE MAY HAVE BEEN UP TO THREE SHOOT FIRED AND THAT UP TO TWO MAY HAVE HIT HIM.HE WAS HIT FROM THE SIDE WITH NUMBER 1 BUCK SHOT(TO BIG FOR TURKEY HUNTING),THIS IS A VERY CLOSE FAMILY AND IF YOU WILL PLEASE KEEP THEM IN YOUR PRAYERS.

Please tell the family that they are in my prayers. I think I can speak for everyone on this one.


Absolutely :'(


Title: Re: Shooting at River Ranch?
Post by: Islandbreeze07 on March 26, 2008, 12:02:26 PM
May you rest in peace, Randy.


Title: Re: Shooting at River Ranch?
Post by: Mike99KFX on March 26, 2008, 01:08:31 PM
He was a great guy.  Our shops are a block away.  I'm very close to his family. I try to be there with them as much as possible.  Please pray for them. 
I know it was an accident, but why was someone shooting into a bush without seeing what was there, that is pure stupidity. 


Title: Re: Shooting at River Ranch?
Post by: big-daddy on March 26, 2008, 01:27:56 PM
He was a great guy.  Our shops are a block away.  I'm very close to his family. I try to be there with them as much as possible.  Please pray for them. 
I know it was an accident, but why was someone shooting into a bush without seeing what was there, that is pure stupidity. 

I agree


Title: Re: Shooting at River Ranch?
Post by: dj_pizzim on March 26, 2008, 01:35:36 PM
He was a great guy.  Our shops are a block away.  I'm very close to his family. I try to be there with them as much as possible.  Please pray for them. 
I know it was an accident, but why was someone shooting into a bush without seeing what was there, that is pure stupidity. 

Its sad to hear but this happens more often then most people think. Im not talking about at the ranch but everywhere thats why i would go turkey hunting


Title: Re: Shooting at River Ranch?
Post by: Keeter on March 26, 2008, 02:21:04 PM
It can happen to you, so stay away from River Ranch!

Yea, stay away.


Title: Re: Shooting at River Ranch?
Post by: AintSkeered on March 28, 2008, 08:22:03 AM
Croom's safe, no hunting.


Title: Re: Shooting at River Ranch?
Post by: gtnwood on March 28, 2008, 05:54:52 PM
If what peeps on here are saying is true, my guess is charges should be forthcoming. Culpable Negligence at the very least, thats crazy imo.


Title: Re: Shooting at River Ranch?
Post by: Da_Mtg_Man on March 29, 2008, 10:34:29 PM
Has anyone heard anything more as far as what is happening to the shooter?


Title: Re: Shooting at River Ranch?
Post by: SWAMP_DONKEY on March 29, 2008, 11:59:38 PM
 I understand there are no charges pending. I also heard thet he was not shooting from a truck and he was not using buck shot and that only one shot hit him??  I have never heard so many conflicting stories.. The Sad reality is none of them matter the result is very sad and we (family and I ) feel very sorry for the families of all involved.


Title: Re: Shooting at River Ranch?
Post by: Da_Mtg_Man on March 30, 2008, 08:16:26 AM
10-4


Title: Re: Shooting at River Ranch?
Post by: gtnwood on March 30, 2008, 06:07:41 PM
I understand there are no charges pending. I also heard thet he was not shooting from a truck and he was not using buck shot and that only one shot hit him??  I have never heard so many conflicting stories.. The Sad reality is none of them matter the result is very sad and we (family and I ) feel very sorry for the families of all involved.
Well there should be


Title: Re: Shooting at River Ranch?
Post by: SWAMP_DONKEY on March 30, 2008, 10:09:43 PM
I understand there are no charges pending. I also heard thet he was not shooting from a truck and he was not using buck shot and that only one shot hit him??  I have never heard so many conflicting stories.. The Sad reality is none of them matter the result is very sad and we (family and I ) feel very sorry for the families of all involved.
Well there should be

 There will probably be manslaughter brought up. JMO