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lol

http://havingafit.blogspot.com/2007_04_01_archive.html

 ROFLFMAO!!!!!!!

Thats the funniest stuff ive ever seen! 

I love the part in the second video where the guy does the donut drives off and the only car on the street was an unmarked cop car. lmao
Thanks for the link!

wow ... thats funny ... im glad i dont own one. but i wish i got the gas mileage

you can own one without being a ricer lol.



i have an accord.
im guilty for the lowering part . but thats it. lol.

wow a couple years ago when i first got my license i woulda swore up and down i would never drive anything but a truck that was also while gas was a whopping 1.25 a gallon :pinch.gif
now im driven a 4 cyl 'ricer' cause my 'american truck' [prolly made in taiwan] was using a $100+ a week in gas soooo.... i guess im the 1st sentra specv w/ a camoed interior  :Y

Hilarious, but who in their right mind would of put a subaru 2.5 RS with exhaust in the ricer catagory?! Otherwise, everything else qualifies.

Umm, i know this makes me SOUND like a ricer, BUT the video with the guy racing the teal, girly colored bmw. That was a 99 gsx, 16g turbo and supporting mods, Too bad he didnt beef up the internals before he threw massive boost to the cylinders. Bye bye engine. The music muffled it so i figured i'd give the story. Dude got ripped on baaaaad on the DSM forums. I think his tranny might of gone too causing him to over rev and throw a rod..dont remember, i just know he was a dumbass.

I like the 2nd video where the guy sits on the hood of his truck while its moving jumps off and truck hits a pole. 1:31 i think lol

ya i dont think subaru is a "ricer" more like Badass, STI are fast

There is no greater sign of greatness in the import world. If you live in the U.S., tagging your Acura as a Honda gives you the BIGGEST thingy on the block! You see, in Japan, Acuras are Hondas.
+ a billion Horse Power



A BILLION HORSE POWER!

Subaru's may be fast, but they still qualify as ricer in my book if they have an exhaust. they just sound horrible, all the imports do...   

The imports your thinking about is VTEC's,Scubi's,Skeetles,Nissan's.....

But the REAL imports are Porsche's,VW's,BMW's, Audi's......Were not gunna get into Pasta rockets :N

the "REAL" impots still look and sound just as gay, just with a bigger pricetag. and i wouldnt classify a vw any different than a honda.

those high end ricers will still get dusted by a z06 vett so why pay more for a car that sounds like a dying moose with an exhaust?

... if you haven't noticed i hat foreign cars with a passion

so let me get this straight, your honda has 1.6 liters, where as my mountain dew has 2?  lol

Ill take my rice pork fried ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T-zLdxAO-8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ct36IUKaP5w&feature=related

watch the 2nd race>>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGQIXhLDkTo

I had an 88 crx, was damn good on gas, but sh. itty at getting my quad to the track. I  now drive a 2004 Ram.

*GAAAAAAAASP* have you never heard an STi with a nice exhaust system?!??!! thats like...thats like...i dont know just as sexy as a Cobra with a borla setup. Headers are different lengths causing it to purr like no other.

they sound gay, and borlas sound like sh*t also.

All Ricers ever did was get in the way in the staging lanes at the  drag strip and play crappy music. Then, they'd drive through the water box with street tires and drip water out to 300' while on their way to a blistering 15 - 16 second pass.

Dorks.

hey, don't make fun of my passes, I was averaging 14-15 in my truck last time I went ;-)

but I did know enough to stay out of the water cause it wasn't gonna do me any good.

Id@

14-15 quarter realy aint that bad guys? 90% of those true ricers run like 19s lol

and borla is about the worse sounding exhaust i cna posibly thing of. if aint a v8 or a diesel its gay in my book.

Why dont you go down to fixxfest or to Sebring this weekend.  They can get over 2,000HP out of a 4-Cylinder can a Dodge Neon/STR4 so that?

Sad knowing your soo narrow minded

thats great that a max effort extremely high budget car can achieve that, average guys dont get that kind of power out of 4 bangers. and i have a hard time believing 2000 hp out of anything without a dyno sheet, got one or a link to one? id really like to see, not being sarcastic.

I'm talking about the average ricer, u know that one guy in the teal neon who passes you casually with the pedal to the floor and then throws his 4 ways on, or that guy who it driving beside you makes eye contact in his civic and drops it down 2 gears while its still struggling so you put the hammer down and walk by him like hes standing still...

I'm not narrow minded i am just extremely mechanical inclined and know ALOT about all sorts of engines and i have a preference for v8s, there is nothing more badass than a big block Chevy regardless if it makes less hp per cubic inch, get what I'm saying. for whatever fast ricer there is a even more badass American car that can blow its doors off so no mater how you want to look at it or sugar coat it,  the fact that i prefer a v8 isn't narrow minded its a preference

and are you the kid who got baned for being a post sleeper like 2 years ago? not bashign i was just wondering, i could be wrong...

there is a such thing as to open minded, you gotta have a preference for something man, stand up for what you like dont just go with whatever is cool right now...

im partial to american V-8's theres nothing i love more than a nice lookin camaro or stang [except a dually 350 with a nice lift] but ricers are fun to drive to if you get a decent one btw i HATE bodykits makes em uglier than a minivan

 There ya go...I gotsa MUSTANG ready for the strip if ya got the cash ;)

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I agree to an extent.......I own a V-8 S/C  Best truck I have ever driven..Sounds awesome!  But yes they do get annoying downshifting for no reason and shifting throw gears like a Le Mans race car.  Its all on the budget "Do more, with Less"

What's your 1/4 mile time? Boost?

 The 1/8th mile slip shows 7.20 so thats someplace in the high 11's.

borla is what? might want to buy some Q-tips. I suppose you both LOVE flowmaster 40's.  ::)
I prefer magnaflow over all the rest. Anyway, exhaust is only sound. 

 The STANG has BASSANI Headers and Pipes. ;D

i am a flowmaster fan, not just 40s and my bro runs no muffler... i dont think glasspacks suck they have their benifits for certain aplications i just dont like the way they sound... not that they sound horible just compared to flowmaster it doesnt sound as agresive like i like, just preference... however i heard a borla on a corvet and it realy didnt sound good at all... and magniflow is sorta a joke how they charge so much for a glasspack, a glasspack is a glasspack, just get a chery bomb...

o yea, i will be puting a glasspack on my golf cart... so you cant say im a flowmaster only guy ;) lol but chances are i wouldnt use anythign other than flowmaster on any vehicle of my own...

PLEASE dont pull the old i know everything because im 17... im sick of that crap

trade even for an 02 sentra SE-R spec-v bone stock 2.5 4cyl puttin out 4 digit fwhp of course it might be to much of a car for ya  :drive.gif

  I cant even fit in that car...so I doubt it is too much.  LOL

no but really what body style is that and what motor not that i could afford but it still looks purtty shweet

Agreed.  STIs with a good exhaust and a blow-off valve are just a sick as any other car.

LOL, mother of god you guys cant be seriouse?!! i dont car how fast it is 4 bangers sound bad, not even comparable to the worst sounding v8. and BOVs dont sound cool on ricers! is there anyone else here with any sense to realize ricers sound GAAYYY. ::)

Yea ricers are gay.  STIs are not ricers.

thats all what you consider it, IMO stis are 100% ricer. they sound like ricers, and they looks like ricers. they are much better than hondas and such, but i still wouldn't drive one.

STIs are sick

  ::) this thread dissapoints me, ricer lovers! :tsktsk.gif

I dont see how the STI is a ricer... It has just under 300 hp and is faster than a mustang Gt!

wow. its not that everyone likes rice. its that youre one ignorant closeminded dumbfounded motherfugger.

read some articles or actually drive a sti or evo and then come talk.

dont come back and say some BS that you already did..



4 cyl BOOST > v8

ok how about stack up 4 cylinders boosted against my v8 boosted? which one is more badass, if you say the sti you have no taste.

its not that im ignorant or closed minded its that i stand up for what i like not just blow with the wind with whatever the craze is right now, i will always love v8s and i will always love trucks, even tho the cool thing tight now is ricers, i know what i like and im not just going to give in and say its cool just so i can be "open minded" thats a load of bs if you ask me...

and this thread was intended to bash rice not for all the rice lovers to come in and talk about how cool they are, so closed minded or not coming in here and changing the thread to the oposite of what it was intended is not cool

STI and Evo do not = rice!

if it sounds liek a dieing moose than yes its rice, sure it may be a much higher form of rice hat isnt typical slow rice but yes it is still rice, it still sounds like garbage and when you heer it coming the first thing that enteres your mind is "ricer!"

I don't care what you say, IMO they sound and look gay as hell, thats not closed minded thats just my opinion. and theres tons of people that like v8s, its probly more common than the 4 banger fanbase. il admit they can be pretty fast, im not saying that they are slow, i just dont like them. and in all honesty if you cant admit that they sound bad, then your probly a ricer fan. for example, i know cummins are fast, great engines, but i can still admit they sound kinda shity...

  There is NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT!!!   Never has been, never will be!!

STIs sound sick

finally someone doesn't have their head up there ass lol.

lol, now your just messing with me.  this has got to be one of the dumbest arguments this site has seen in while anyways...

and for the record, most people don't consider the sound of 4 bangers "sick". but if like it then whatever blows your skirt up i guess.

lol, yeah Im just messing around. You have a sick d-max though

thanks. what do you drive anyways, i bet you drive a toyota huh nancy? jk lol. oh no gona start a whole new argument on yotas.

well in all reality its as simple as this- true gear heads are v8 fans, and every dumb teenager that doestn know anything about engines likes 4 bangers...

lol i dont have my license yet haha. turn 16 next month

ill probably drive my moms 5 speed one wheel wonder blazer lol

is it an open rearend or the g80, what year... i like obs blazers alot.

wel, technically its the gmc version a jimmy. lol but i like to call it a blazer. and its a 2001

to each his own, i own a nissan import and its far from any kind of "rice" different people different cars


so untrue on many different levels

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anyone that thinks push rod engines are what performance is all about, shouldnt be able to DRIVE a car. Common knowledge says more moving parts = less reliable. So, v8 gearheads, Name a few things that set apart a ford engine from a chevy engine. Lets go with the popular 350 5.7 chevy engine, and the mustang power house 5.0 302.  Heres a small hint, the cam is involved in one of the differences. Oh and what do you guys think about the titan and the tundra?  ;)  they both sport 8 cylinders...
 

Rob, you really need to look up the definition of ricer. You might want to use a different term if you think STi's and Evo's are rice. Have you ever seen a sedan go 150 that can maintain its stability! Not without that spolier you havent! The hood scoop on the front sucks air through the intercooler, which cools the massive ammount of air from the turbocharger that is being crammed into the combustion chamber, creating v8 killing power. It also comes with windshield washer type sprayers, which gives the intercooler a blast of cool water, FURTHER cooling the air, which further condenses it. Not to mention its AWD which means it will RIP out off of the line and stay out in front. The 6 speed manual transmission will send it all the way up to 150mph give or take. Not to mention its 1/2 the price of a vette. Oh and you cant get it in an automatic, because its a REAL sports car, not something any sissy that cant shift can buy and just mash the gas pedal. Not calling anyone names, just making a point.

Oh and uhh...Have you ever heard of rally? does ford use a v8 in their rally focus? clue me in.

 ;)


I love the LS series chevy has, i'd love to own an old fox body with a built 302, but performance doesnt stop at 8 cylinders. Actually do some research into nice imports, such as the subaru or mitsu or any import that can hold its own with muscle cars. Yeah ricers say AWWW SHIIIIIIIIT I GOTS VTEC!! and haha yeah thats funny, but do you actually know what vtec is?  like i said do research, if you still have no respect, quit calling yourself a gearhead. Call yourself a musclehead or something, because you are NOT a gearhead.

lol VTAKK!!!

i saw a 3000gt with a VTEC sticker on it the other day    :o hahaha

dude you talk like im a retard that doesnt know wtf im talking about, i know what an itercooler is and how it works, i have one too. and i know haw fast evos/stis are. and i know that all the top nhra drag cars run pushrod engines, i know an ls7 corvette is a push rod engine, and it makes a ton of evo killing power and spins 7k rpm, over head cams are mostly for higher reving applications, thats the main advantage. any engine can be as powerfull as your budget allows anyways.

and i know how v tec works, all its good for is high reving power, variable valve timing right? i know what an evo or sti is capable of and i know there will always be a equally modified v8 out there to spank it. throw that much boost at a v8, and the powr doesnt even compare, those cars also have a huge weight advantage, wich makes them seem alot more powerfull. lets not even talk about low end torque, 4 bangers dont have a chance next to any v8.

the more i read that post the more i find wrong with it, werent 5.0 pushrod engines, i thought they switched to ohc on the newer 4.6s. also i think titans are slow and tundras are overrated and easly outperformed by gms 6.2 403hp vortec truck engine, wich by the way is a pushrod engine.

im not a fan of Toyota or Nissan lol. OK how can you sit there and tell me your a gear head and then say something like "anyone that thinks push rod engines are what performance is all about, shouldn't be able to DRIVE a car" ... you've got to be kidding me?! any REAL gearhead would be ready to beet your ass for a statement like that! nascar runs pushrod motors and they rev em to the moon because nascar is true American power to its roots. your loosing touch of what performance came from man, pushrods v8s started it all and always will be about the badest ass power around. by you making that statement about pushrod motors being no good Leeds me to believe that you have absolutely no respect for the roots of were hotroding and performance came from... your not a gear head, you just like whatever everyone thinks is cool at the time. I'm not trying to bash you, that doesn't make you dumb, just bad taste in my book...

pushrod engines are the badest ass form of performance EVER, you don't see nascar ruining overhead cams on the track? you don't see monster trucks running overhead cam moter? so what TRUE form of performance DOES actually run overhead cams? rally racing isn't nearly on the level of nascar...

i think its great that you are "open minded" but id rather stand for something i like than just defend whatever the fad is, even if that makes me closed minded...

real power will always be pushrod, lame power will always be overhead cam.

same with boost, those cars are all boost power, take the boost off and its a turd to the extreme. true power should be built naturaly aspirated and then all hell brakes loose once you do throw boost at it, if a moter makes all its power on boost than it only looks good on a dyno sheet, around town you get bad turbo lag and all the power is in high rpms which is USELESS power for daily driving

looking back on this thread, something is wrong with this site if we cant even make fun of ricers without people actualy defending them! think about it, the thread was started as a joke and now everyone is defending the rice... disapointing

So if being a ricer is all about how many cylinders you have, I guess through the eyes of the V12 and W16 owners all v8s are ricers...

I dont talk to you like your an idiot, i just like being descriptive. My point is, Dollar for dollar, your going to get a lot more out of high quality imports than you would any v8 domestic out there. Thats buy price and mods included.

As far as huge weight advantage?

umm the 06 sti is about 3350 lbs. thats at 305hp and 290ft lbs

The 06 c6 coupe weighs in at 3179lbs making 400 across the board.

I havent seen any videos or seen it myself, but i'd put money on the vette in a drag...but in the corners that c6 might as well be an aveo.

base model for both puts the sti about 10-12 grand cheaper...Put that 12 grand into your sti and you have a sickkk car.

And dude its not about defending rice and im just debating with you. I HAAAATE ricers, i see them allllllll day. But i just dont understand how people can ignore the performance and HUGE potential behind some imports. Honda is that kid on the football team that always messes up and makes your run extra laps. I blame them for the never ending import/domestic battle. ford and chevy? i blame nascar.  :D

WHOOOOOOOAAA, i NEEEEEEEEVER said push rod engines where garbage. But damn, it seems like you and rob think if it doesnt have a push rod it might as well be a sub compact. I'm not about to put them down I'm just trying to open your squinted eyes so that you can see theres more than damn v8's!! thats all i was into when i first started school to become a mechanic, but once i started learning a lot, i realised theres a lot more than that out there. Its like a raptor owner or a kfx700 guy saying, oh there no way you will ever beat me on my 700 with that little 450. hahah your a fool to think you could ever over come the raw performance of my 700!!! see what i mean? These debates wear me out, I've engaged in plenty of them over the last few years and not one person has said "I see what you mean, and i definitely have more respect for imports now, even though i would never drive one"

Its useless, im done. I love cars and i love quads, i always study new things, and i wrench every chance i get. I AM a gearhead.

Briggs ans Stratton BABY!!!

lol doesnt brigs still use a flathead design on their small engines?

  I dont fool with the small stuff..... 5hp and up for me ;D  You gotta grow a pair when you get to that level.

never said they were slow but it just seemed like you were trying to say they are better than v8s in some way. and as far as weight advantage, well yea it dont seem like much when your comparing a vett, thats probly the lightest v8 anything you can get, and we all know which one is faster anyways. all im saying is when it comes to racing push rod v8s dominate the field, with few exceptions such as road racing and rally, for a reason, its not because there a buch of narrow minded hardcore v8 fans. and i don't care at all about handling, im sure a vett handles plenty good and is more fun in a straight line anyways. the whole stis arent ricers thing is a matter of opinion, when i see a sti scream by and hear that horrible 4 banger sound the first thing i think is ricer. i argue it because you came off like stis are better than v8s in general... 

also, this REALY didnt help your argument, that got me a little pissed lol.

"anyone that thinks push rod engines are what performance is all about, shouldnt be able to DRIVE a car"

seriously think about that.

 Vetts are SLOW without work done Push rod or not...but you can always get more power with more valves, 2 intake and 2 exhaust=32 valves and that means DUAL OVER HEAD CAM v8..if you want HP @ high RPM's. You want tourque... GET SOME REAL displacement BIG BLOCK and get some air into her (blower) and High compression 12.5 to 1 dometops work best with AV GAS.  ;)  Piss on 4 bangers they are for Gang Bangers and Children. :o

12.5:1 pistons with a blower :o youd need to run race gas and spray 100% methanol to keep that from knocking...

 Retard the timing 12 degrease and she will run great.

Oh, wait a minute.....let me count the number of winning cars that were "ricer" types in the NSCA or NMRA over the years. Ready???? Here goes.....







um







hmmmm

















Zero.   :D

The winning cars have (overwhelmingly) been small block V8's in the 370 - 420 ci range with any number of power adders on them. Nitrous at first, then everyone got on board with the supercharger and lately its the turbos. Granted, all of them have been around for years, but it seems that the turbos have come into their own over the past 3-5 years.

And I am not talking about the pro-mod types. I'm talking the Super Street, Real Street, Hot Street classes on 10.5's and no W's. (If you race, you know what I mean.) One of the best demonstrations of this type of horsepower and reliability is in the Fun Ford weekend True Street Challenge series. 30 miles of highway driving follwed by 15 minutes to change tires and then 3 back to back passes without ever popping the hood and you better run mid 7's to expect to win. Many of these cars are driven to the track and then back home.

Oh, and Vettes' are hardly slow. Lets be real. It's a great package out of the box. Spend some time behind the wheel of a ZO6 and you'll see why they call it a Ferrari killer. Even your standard run of the mill C5 is a blast to drive and will dominate most (most folks, not all) other cars off the showroom floor.

Finally, nobody that runs any serious boost and knows what they're doing builds a motor with 12.5:1 and then relies on timing to make it run.

he was joking on the timing im prety sure lol. i have 9 pounds of boost on 9.5 pistons, i run premium and i spray methanol so once i tune i should be able to advance the timing a good bit since im basicly runing around 116 octane while im spraying methanol...

turbos own for drag racing they make much more boost and dont drag anything... but around town they arent fun on daily drivers because you dont get the instant kick of a blower. blowers ftw

  ;)  Briggs and stratton baby...lol naturally aspirated only with that kind of compression :P  My buddy runs a z06 that is NASTY but his drag car is the bomb.

http://www.bsrracing.com/   no rice allowed.

  Some folks cant joke ;)

lol, i couldn't stop laughing when i saw this today. that wing is rediculis.

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hahaha wooooow. I was in daytona this weekend and saw a few integra's with honda emblems.  ::) Number one, why in the hell would you do that, number two....THOSE ARE RIGHT HAND DRIVE YOU MORONS!! NO ONE BELIEVES YOU!! Rice all OVVVER daytona, but there were some NICCCCCE cars at out by the stage on the board walk. Of course they were mostly imports so i'll leave it at that. Saw an old Blue c-10 with a 572 in it, woodbed, ohhhh man, if only the tailpipes were a little tighter hahahaha. Owner was never around though, i wanted to hear that baby purrrrr.

have you seen project coper head on trucks tv? that is one badass classic chevy with a 572...

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm i drool over that truck. He did such an amazing job. This was pretty close to project copperhead, just solid blue.

that was pretty much m favorite trucks project ever... after that the show went to the craper until recently the ford vs Chevy muscle truck wars really redeemed the show if you ask me...

not a fiar comparison, a 4 year newer lightening anth no cats compared to a older 454ss with all stock exhaust and intake and 60k more miles... but whatever the 454ss will still own that lightening...

yaaaaaa i never got to see the end of that show! The odd's definitely werent good to start out with and that chevy is way sexier! oh and umm, BIG BLOCK! 

o yea, that 351 windsor doesnt have a chance... or does it, i read on the site that they are puting an sts turbo on it, still not comparable to a properly built natural aspirated 454. but it depends on a few things, how much boost they push thru the 351 and how well they build the 454... so the ford is still a thread with forced induction, imo they should have just went balls out with the 454 and put a big nasy roots blower on it and built it with a good set of heads and multi port and a big cam, then they would have been un touchable.

ya'll should come to ocala some time, i got a jetta that would change your mind. shoot me a PM when yall are ready to go for a ride

seeing a fast car wont change my mind... i dont like ford, but the other day we raced a 5.0 that absolutely blew the doors off my brothers dmax, yea it was a badass mustang(trick flow heads, intake, injectors, throtle body, lopey cam, nitrus, he said it runs a 7.6 1/8 mile on spray, 600rwhp)... id still rather have a camaro. i just like what i like and nothing really changes my mind... call it closed minded if you will...

yep for sure close minded(but for some resone redneck keeps poping up to)  a real gear head has love for anything fast. maybe one day you'll get to injoy a fast car that still gets 25mpg. hell its even a 4door nothing like having a carload of people in the car and rapping new zo6s. oo well no point and telling you, seems you got it all figured out.

well you got it all wrong buddy, im not closed minded, its called preference. and a real gearhead loves anything fast is true, cant disagree there... but a real gearhead also knows that anything but a v8 is just a close second, nothing compares and thats all im getting at... and just a tip, you make yourself look bad when you make a personal cutdown like calling me a redneck, it makes it look like you got your panties in a bunch and had to call me a name...

you guys can have all you imports and whatever you like, and i dont have a problem with it but ill stick with my v8. nothing else compares even if what your comparing is equaly as fast, id still take the v8 because thats what i like, and that is not closed minded its just what i like...

well, he has a jetta to change your mind, i have a 1974 Datsun 260z that might change your mind on imports ;D the lil motor between the frame rails has so much torque we have trouble not shearing axles in half, and the only rear end we found to fit and hold up to its power without bolting in a 9 inch ford, is a twin turbo 300zx limited slip rear end with the whole inside welded together making it a posi


did i mention it doesnt have a little inline 6 under the hood anymore? lol v8 power baby
Has a little baby 388 in it

 ???   :tsktsk.gif

so your telling me you have a 74 260z with a 388 in it, i must see pics.

im prety sure he just meant to say spool...

posi means limited slip, so welding up a rear end acts like a spool not posi, just for future reference...

an import with a american v8 wont chage my mind on imports becasue its basicly proving that imports are so lame you need an american powerplant to make it good... but yea that does sound prety bad ass, im not bashing what you have, is it a car or what is a 260z. there are many other good axles out there too, a gm 14bolt semi floater or a full floated or maybe a dana 44 or something like that, but the ford 9" is a popular choice because its lightweight

wait a minute, are you refering to a chiped out jetta diesel as to whats going to change my mind? isnt that the same engine that bent all the rods with an 85hp tune on diesel power magazine? yea they are pretty cool because they get great mpg but far from a performance machine... my budys dad had one and it got like 40mpg :o

you need to realize that you cant expect me to agree with you when you come in and cram your opinion down my throat...

hold on, your saying that your jetta will rape a new z06? im not saying your rong but i dont believe that without some proof...

Oh this is almost too funny to read.


I wasn't referring to his terminology. I was referring to welding a rear end in general.

Anyway, you guys continue. I'm loving this.   ;)

nothin wrong with welding up the spider gears on a rear end? no different than puting a spool on... of course i would never do it on anything you drive on the road, i have a real locker...

Ummm, yeah........okay.   :L 2:L :R :Wacko.gif

lol wow, yeah the spyders are all welded making it a spool, but yeah its a datsun z car with a chevy in it
used to be a street car....


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and heres an old video

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umm, do you know anything about rearends at all? can you tell me what a spool is and what its good for and then tell me why its any different to weld up an open rear end as aposed to putting a spool in? sounds like your talking about wht you dont know about...

and that is a realy bad ass datsun lol

that is definitely NOT a ricer. sweet car.

Yeah, I do. I also know the differnce between a mini and regular spool, when a different carrier is required in certain rear ends, how to set back lash, what a dial indicator is used for, how to properly employ pinion shims, the importance of pre-load, the difference in alloy steel and others, the important of tolerances in a carrier, what a "floater" or floating rear end actually means, why people run 9" Fords, why welding spiders is foolish and a bit dangerous and that this thread is humorous.

I'll give you a hint on the welding issue...it has to do with temper and strength. 

Now, go forth and entertain me some more my Padwan.   :D

Temper and strength??  I think I understand now.
  Temper has to do with the fact that while being constantly teased about his one wheel burnouts Mr. short fused decides to weld er up.
  The strength part of it must be because it takes a strong man to lay in the dirt with no shirt on while getting sprayed with molten metal. Of course our tough guy is also squinting to avoid flashburn.

  Parts required to install your Lincoln locker.

  1. Grandpas old buzz box.
  2. whatever rods you find laying around the barn.
  3. Sunglasses (optional, you can just squint)
  4. Beer
  5. At least 3 friends to watch you and tell you how awsome your truck will be when finished.
  6. Almost forgot, visegrips to get the diff. cover off

   This may not be a complete list but it should get you started.

Oh yeah! That is funny right there...I don't care who you are.

My TDI gets 47 Mpg  ;D

Hey Kawasaki400racer! Where'd you go? I can explain all of that if you want.   :-*

yea, i know all about the rearends also, i just fully rebuilt mine a while ago with a Detroit full locker and i had to do all the backlash and gear tooth pattern and all that good stuff, i know all about spool and mini spool also, you don't need to explain any of that... but anyways back to welding the rearend, I'm not saying its the right way to do it because it really is a bad idea because things can break but for something like a mud truck or some junker that you want to weld up the rearend its really no big deal.

so sorry for saying you don't know what your talking about because you obviously do just as well as myself but its just your opinion about welding up a rear end, id have no problem welding up the rear on something like a mud truck... welding up a rearend is never a good idea on something like a racecar if thats sorta why you would be saying welding it is a bad idea...

Yep.  ;)

lmfao, i could see it.

a spool or welded rear end is a terible idea really, all kinds of chirping just cruising around a parking lot.. and axle twist :o

i like my detroit locker, lockes under power, unlocks when im creeping through a parking lot... a ton of peopel swear by the detroit tre tracs but wont it still break into a one wheel peel if you mash it half way around a corner? it wont pull a one wheeler in a strait line tho...

ricer = driver
rice  = delicious food/the car.

ricer can mean alot of thing, if you ask me the #1 thing that determines a ricer is the dieing moose sound, and a close second would be if you have to downshift 3 or 4 times to get "in the power" constantly than its probably a ricer...

i had a neon beside me that kicked it down like 3 times and it was stills strugeling lmao, he thought he could take my truck... he was wrong lmao

nah im not talking about no tdi. the one im refuring to is green 97 vr6 turbo. car dynoed at 387whp and 374ftlbs of tq at 15 psi. but since has had a few upgrades and now runs 25 psi(on a 81mm turbo). its a purty serious car. it not mine, its a good friends of mines. and as for the new z06 thing, we got to run one while we were in miami a few weeks ago. it was funny as hell to see the look on the old dudes face when we went rowing past him. let me look around ill see if i can find the dyno video. and theres one some where out there that has some videos of him running some moded gtos and a cobra. just got to find it

the old man didnt know how to drive because they make more than 380 hp at the wheels and weigh about the same? idk what kinda quarter mile does it run.

81mm turbo? jeez that thing must take all day to light a turbo like that... so it runs a good 1/4. i bet its a turd driving around town with a 81mm turbo taking ALL DAY to spool up lol

nah the thing spools real hard. and its already a vr6 so it wasnt a complete turd when it was stock. and the cars still his daily that we have drivin every where.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=43914214&MyToken=485d3440-0608-4a26-8d39-09dba4141724
 thats his myspace page. take alook at it, he also has a 83 rabit with a vr6 thats purty fun

proper tuning and piping can take care of that. I'd like to see this thing. My friend was going to put the same engine in a rabbit  :D I love watching rabbit videos. so funny.

If you guys every do meets up there or anything let me know, i'd really love to check this car out.

oh i just read your last post and saw YOUR friend already did the rabbit swap. bad ass haha.

man you ever come to ocala your more then welcome to tkae a look at it and ask any questions

i dont care what you say, i call bs on a quick spooling 81mm turbo on an engine that small no matter how the exhaust is set up. i guess its all what you consider a quick spool, my trucks engine is alot bigger and i think the stock turbo is like 65mm and its not the fastest spooling setup.

is it variable geometry maybe, that helps, but still 81mm is a lot of turbo to light... get a video lol

Yeah, I think I've got to call BS on this one too.  I mean, 81mm's? Come on now. We're talking about a turbo that Turbonetics sells for 1200-2000hp applications in their Y2K line. That's a BUNCH of turbo for a street driven VW.

Hell, that's a bunch of turbo period. Are we sure we didn't press the wrong key by accident?

lol, i was thinking the same, diesels run em in the 60-70mms stock... no way 2.something liters produces the exhaust presure to light a turbo of that size... please feel free to prove me wrong, id love to see it. how the hell did you spank a vett? did you sit at the red light geting it spooled up at 8000 rpms first or what? and another thing... shouldnt 81mm turbo make a lot more than just 15 psi of boost? if he truely does have a 81mm turbo making 15psi of boost he needs to learn that bigger may not be beter because he could have got the same boost with a fast spool if he went smaller... hell a centrifigul blower can make 15psi, why bother with a 81mm turbo for 15psi? sory to kinda burst your buble im not trying to be an not a very nice person feel free to correct me if im wrong...

an 81mm turbo should make like 40psi... there are so many flaws in what you say about your Buddy's ricer. its becoming more and more unbelievable...

I would think an 81 mm should make around 50 psi? thats pretty far from 25, unless he just has the waste gate limit it that much, which would make no sense when you could do that with a smaller turbo and spool quicker. not saying your wrong just i don't believe it till i see it.

idk what people think when they make ridiculous remarks on forums, they know they are going to get called out, don't they? its ok, iv had my fair share of getting owned on forums, it happens to all of us...

LMAO. I suppose the reason I keep breaking the spider gear welds in my buggy is because I use leathers and a helmet. I won't make that mistake again. ;)

LOL everyone knows you remove the Muffler Bearings and you gain 50 HP in any application...the nerve of some of these Limey muppets around here.... ::)

duh, you add some type r stickers and a wing bigger than a superbird, and your lookin at like 100 extra hp.
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d53/kfx400rob/plymouth-superbird-8.jpg)
lol

so because the turbo is big you run high PSI?LOL the wastegate controls your PSI and i already S-A-I-D (dorry joe dirt)the car runs at 25 psi. go to his myspace his dyno number, and video is in there(on 15 psi). if not bring your ass on down and take a look. im not one to get on the internet and talk sh*t. im just telling you about a car. a car that i have already S-A-I-D is not mine so why would i talk sh*t about some one elses ride. like i S-A-I-D go on his myspace. and dont be a bunch of ducks.

ok man i have been owned lets be real, do i really need to take my time to show you all the prof. i mean theres a whole build thread on VWvortex about it and everything. theres even pics on his myspace from where we just took the car to southFL for a VW show. let me do alil looking around and i will give you more prof. or just look on his myspace. i mean how hard is it to sign on and chek it out.

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sorry i was alil off it was 371HP 383 ftlbs tq

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3741875

there full spec and pics of the car. let me know if you need more prof. i hope that anuff. but i know i got one more video. ill post it in just a sec

http://youtube.com/watch?v=LUl7Gu-3bHQ

youtube of the jetta and also of my buddys built prelude walking a GTO from a dig.

http://www.mafia-motorsports.com/forums/kill_or_be_killed/7055-sat_footage_is_up.html

also here is the link to the post about that night.

owned? i think not, fukn haters
im just sayen

S-A-I-D...... that is how that word is spelled.

so i skiped that class lol. (never could spell good) so did you check it out? what you think about the car?

lol, why does he need a turbo that big, just so he can say he has a 82mm turbo? to limit it that much with the wastegate it just dumb. you can make that much boost with a much smaller turbo and spool much quicker. and 371 hp aint exactly z06 killing power, any quarter mile times? im not that impressed.

lissen man did you not watch the video? the fuking car is running cobras and supercharged gtos. i mean come on man. the car spools so hard that if you just lay into it in 3rd it will slap smoke the tires off. i dont know what else to tell you but come take a ride then talk sh*t. did you read the post on mafia? those guys on there have very fast cars. docs gto is the fastest 6 speed gto in the country and even he was giving the car props.  im sorry i had to pull out all this sh*t just for you to still act like a dumb ass. i have said anuff. come out to ocala and come for a ride, and will see how impressed you are

lol i saw the videos, i wouldnt call that anything close to a fast spool, and it smoke s the tires because its FRONT WHEEL DRIVE.

oo well im fighting a win less battle. i know what the car will do. if you cant xcept that oo well lol. yall have fun with your V8s. let me know if yall ever want to bring anything this way maybe we can set up some friendly races.

dude im not saying its slow but, i saw the videos and they all seem pretty meaningless, they were at night, cant realy see if the other car got a good launch, but yes the car does seem fast... but i still cant see it beating a new z06 is all im saying. its a stupid argument i know but comon, a new z06 will run a low 11 bone stock.

i dont think any of the races with the vw in it where from a dig. it spins 1st & 2nd too much. they were all from a 40-45 roll.(vw still spun for awhile) so there was no lanch to worry about. also when we ran the z06 it was from a 70 roll or so. because we were on the interstate. which is where this car shines. trust me its a fun car had it to 172mph on the way back from tampa that same night. the car is just set up right. plus those new z06s im sure are heavyer then the VW and probly makes close the the same whp. like i sead the dyno was at 15 PSI and when we ran the z06 we were at 25. so im sure the extra 10psi put the VW over 400whp. and the new z06s are rated at 500 crank HP right? figure in drivetrain loss, and your purty darn close WHP

true, but 500 is pretty underrated, i think they make around 450 wheel. another thing is, peak power isnt everything, and the torque curve on the z06 will flat out put that thing to shame, no offense to your buddys vw but im sure a z06 is faster in a drag. thats nothing to be ashamed of anyways, they are realy fast.

my money would be on the vette.

You Might Be A Ricer If…

* You have more exhaust decibels than your engine has horsepower.
* You have aftermarket FRONT wheels for racing but stock rear wheels.
* Your engine makes twice as much horsepower as torque.
* 17" rims up front, 13" out back on your FWD.
* You ever painted your wheels to match the same color of your car.
* You put your automatic car in neutral at every stoplight in order to roll it back and try to fool other people into thinking you have a manual transmission
* DuPont gave up trying to figure out the shade you were asking for.
* Your mod list includes stereo equipment, shifter handle, MOMO steering wheel, PIA driving lights, exhaust tip, but no REAL engine parts.
* A chameleon lizard undergoes fewer shade changes than your custom paint scheme.
* Your rims and tires are so large, that you have to install the tire / wheel from underneath the car because it simply won't fit in the wheel well going in from the side.
* The dealer laughs when you bring your car back in for service under warranty, and you've only had it 6 months...
* Your tires / rims stick out from the lip of your car by more than 1."
* Your paint job is from the WRONG end of the color spectrum.
* You installed spacers on your STOCK wheels and tires to get them to stick out past the fender.
* You see cars like yours in a Shriner's Parade for Children and clowns are driving them.
* You bring an empty Maxwell House coffee can with you to compare size when you shop for an aftermarket exhaust system.
* Your Eclipse GS-T hardtop has a "SPYDER" emblem on the rear...
* Your sum knowledge of suspension is: "the more negative camber, the better the handling."
* You push your car through the staging lanes. That way, maybe you can break into the 16s by keeping the motor cool between runs.
* You add a super tall rear wing, and a hundred pounds of aftermarket ground effects, neon and stereo yet you gut the interior and yank out the rear seat for weight savings.
* Your rear wing AND your rear window have a third mount brake light...
* The back lighting in the gauges in your A-pillar gauge pod work long before the actual gauges are hooked up.
* You cut 4 coil springs and scrape the chassis on the ground. Sparks are cool when you corner at normal traffic speeds!
* You have to find a way to drive AROUND speed bumps in a parking lot.
* You install clear corner and brake lights.
* You install colored bulbs in your aftermarket clear lenses.
* You ever put neon on the bottom of your car, and then busted it on the first speed bump you went over.
* You painted the UNDERBODY of your car to match
* If your rear spoiler is taller then you are.
* if you can fit fist **** your exhaust tip
* You have more stereo WATTS than engine TORQUE!
* If your tailpipe extension is the most expensive mod you’ve done to your engine yet.
* Your tailpipe extension fell off during a quarter mile race and you went three tenths of a second faster due to weight savings.
* EVERY car in your class has a turbo pushing double digits worth of boost.
* You spent $5,000 on the engine and you can not out run a stock Camaro, Firebird, or Mustang
* You want the 'wastegate' sound, but don't want to install a turbocharger system.
* You think Nitrous Oxide on your Hyundai Sonata puts you in the same performance league as the Chevy Corvette.
* The automatic version of your car runs 2 seconds slower in the 1/4mile.
* If the 1970 Plymouth Daytona Superbird has a smaller spoiler than your car does.
* You think the Del Sol is a sports car...
* A torque converter does NOTHING for your car.
* You think a deep farty noise = the sound of high performance
* If you think that horsepower is far more important than torque
* If you have ever claimed that switching to a cone filter has given you more than 5 HP.
* If you have ever considered installing more than one set of fog / driving lights.
* If you claim that the aftermarket cold air intake system you just installed doubled your horsepower or took 2 or more seconds off of your E/T.
* Your baseball cap is always on backwards when you drive (the first sign of mental retardation, wearing your clothes backwards... BE).
* You spent all night on the Internet trying to find a company that makes a turbocharger system for your Hyundai...
* If you removed your side view mirrors and put them at the TOP of the door / window frame.
* If you think the Fugees are 'speed' music.
* MOMO is 'absolutely required' to go fast.
* Your four cylinder has a dual exhaust system installed.
* Your four cylinder has four exhaust pipes ("Hey, one for each cylinder!")
* The color of your interior upholstery hurts the cones and rods in other people's eyes.
* If you cannot drive your car in snow as the ground effects create a plow effect.
* If you have installed driving lights to compensate for headlight blackouts / tape.
* If you think that 180 horsepower and 185 lb/ft of torque are impressive for a ‘mildly’ modified engine.
* If you have stickers on your car for parts that you could not point out if asked where those parts are installed.
* You think pushrods are a bad thing…
* Your car has more decals than you do the quarter in seconds.
* Every Honda you EVER owned, all the way back to your 1978 Accord was either a V-Tec or a TYPE-R.
* You took your rear seat out and gutted your interior for weight savings but you installed 400 pounds of electronics, neon, DVD, Sony, etc.
* If you gutted the interior to save weight on a car that you will never take to the track…
* You lean your seat so far back when you are driving, that every time you hit a bump, its your back and not your butt that hurts.
* You have hydraulics and sixteen switches on a car you claim runs low 10s on the street and corners better than a Porsche.
* If you can estimate that your car makes more than 250 HP without ever running it at the track or getting a dyno reading.
* You claim that you can get a titanium block for your engine.
* If you have ever thought Hyundai and "performance" went hand in hand
* If you've ever gone to a parts shop or speed warehouse and asked for a 1" to 6" exhaust adapter...
* If you've ever contemplated adding "TYPE-R" stickers to your Sonata…
* If you've removed more than 1/2 of the coils from your springs by cutting them yourself ...
* If you have more neon lights on your car than a strip club...
* You put Kanji on your Ford ZX2, Ford Probe, or Mercury Cougar ...
* You own a "TYPE-R" Hyundai or Mazda.
* You couldn't afford headlight masking, so you just painted them with flat black Krylon and it's peeling. Badly.
* You claim that polishing your intake gave you 5hp.
* You own a V-TEC Hyundai or Mazda (especially a V-TEC rotary engined Mazda RX-7)
* You have neon INSIDE your car or in your ENGINE compartment
* You ever claimed that high gas mileage made your car superior in performance to V8s.
* If it takes you 8000rpm to reach 30mph from a dead stop at WOT.
* You think yellow plastic interior trim makes your car cool
* You spend $500 for a giant hand welded tube for a muffler with the weld marks extremely visible
* If you paint your drum brakes to simulate Hi-po calipers
* If you install fake hi-po caliper / disc simulators
* You have a front wing.
* If you lower your car and add ground effects but retain the stock 14inch wheels with disc style wheel covers
* If you equate the sound of performance with the sound of a Weed Eater™
* If you think bolting a fake muffler to one side to simulate dual exhaust is cool
* If you think colored head lights work better
* Clear tail lights and turn signals. They’re colored for a REASON!
* If you take mom's 4 door Honda accord and do any kind of mod to it
* You drive a Ford Escort station wagon with Kanji, wide tires, and Limp Bizkit stickers on the rear hatch
* You claim you lost the race because you had a passenger in the car.
* You claim how if you went from a roll you would have beat him.
* You claim you lost because you missed a shift... and your car is an automatic.
* You claim you lost because he must have been on the juice..
* Flying past the person who is 10 car lengths in front of you after they have put on their brakes.. and claim a victory.
* after losing you flip your opponent off... rev your motor and fail to break the wheels loose even around a corner.
* Tell everyone about how you lost the cop because of your "driving skills."
* you are a white kid driving an import.. wear baggy pants/hat turned around, walk with a fake limp and end every sentence with "yew know wha I'm sayin? Relate."
* Your idea of aiming a handgun is raising your arm over your head, pointing the gun away from you, and then just letting your wrist fall to the side to where the gun is almost sideways ...
* drive around in a $20,000 import with $10,000 in mods.. and still live with your parents.
* You can relate to every line of the song "Pretty Fly For A White Guy" by the Offspring
* you take offense when I say.. "your sister is like your car.. small, tight and hard to get into."
* You are a skinny, backwards hat wearing, dog chain wallet, 2 ft wide pants leg, Limp Bizkit looking white boy fag with a badly applied peroxide hair color treatment and temporary rub-on tattoos!


You've spent more on graphics and decals than you have in gas, for the whole year
*

You sound like you're going 90, but you're creeping past 25
*

You upgraded to the "big bore" 2 inch exhaust
*

You lose 2 mpg by installing a body kit
*

Your wing is so large that if you go faster than 65, your bumper drags
*

You think "displacement" is something that happens to homeless people
*

Yugo's give you a run for the money
*

You continuously run red lights because they are invisible thru your red window tint
*

15's are considered HUGE rims
*

You can reach back and defrost the rear window by hand
*

You will race anyone, anytime, and already know that you will lose
*

You think Moby is one of the greatest composers of our time
*

You spend all your money pimping it out because spending money to make it faster is a waste
*

Your little sister is the only one impressed with your car
*

When you win a race, you don't really win, it's just that the other guy felt soooo sorry for you
*

You think your mom's Corolla is fast
*

The cross section of your exhaust tip is bigger than the contact patch of your tires
*

Your aftermarket tach is bigger than your fist
*

You bought the big ass tach to try to scare off the fast cars
*

But all it does is let people know how hard you have to push it to exceed the legal speed limit
*

You rev on school busses
*

Hell, you rev on people in electric wheelchairs
*

You buy and install custom rims a pair at a time
*

YOU REALIZE THAT ALL OF THE ABOVE IS TRUE AND YOU STILL THINK YOU'RE COOL!!!
*

You've entered a 12 step program called "How to come to terms with your limitations"
*

The bill of your hat gets caught when you roll the window up
*

You really want to kick I disagree right now
*

You cut 2" holes in your rear bumper and don't know what they're for
*

You cut 2" holes in your rear bumper and DO know what they're for
*

You go to the auto paint store and pick out the most retina burning color you can find
*

You buy race gas to drop you from 17.02 to 16.9 in the quarter, and then tell all your friends how fast you went
*

You add a second battery to power all the neon, and the mini disco ball
*

You add a wing on TOP of your car, 'cause wagons need down force too
*

You've ever painted bare, raw fiberglass black and said "Look! It's just like carbon fiber!"
*

You get pimped out props from the mini truck crowd
*

You still only get dates from high school girls
*

You actually own a pair of light up glasses from Checker Auto
*

When you install your super phat wing, you put the pointy ends up
*

You purchase and install a body kit, one piece at a time
*

You saw the "Rice Boy" magazine in the back of Sport Compact, and inquired about a subscription
*

Your brother is pissed cause you stole the muffler off his dirt bike (it was a direct fit!)
*

Your dad is worried cause you bought a car with less displacement than his lawnmower 
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find a vette and some money, i got some cash on it.

You push your car through the staging lanes. That way, maybe you can break into the 16s by keeping the motor cool between runs.


lmao, when i was at countyline dragway i saw tons of lowered hondas being pushed to the start lines lmao

weres that  at? are you talkin about the county line saloon in melborne?

no, countyline is a new track the opened not to long ago in the north end of miami dade

Isn't it an 1/8?

I like the "you put the car in neutral and roll backwards to make people think you have a manual" lmao

yeah, and  when i was there they were all pushing their street hondas up to the line

oh i was gona say you are lieing cause the only thing that they have there is mud boggs

lol, what you've never seen them push the hondas up to the line at the mud bogs?

lol no but ive seen some fords be pushed back from the line