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Title: Atleast he wore a helmet...
Post by: Young Gun on March 07, 2008, 09:31:35 PM
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Investigators say evidence shows the cyclist was going about 120 miles per hour at the time of the impact. It took the truck driver more than a quarter of a mile to come to a stop. When he did, he stepped out of his rig and found the motorcyclist dead at the back of the truck.
"The truck driver was not hurt," says Captain Matt Kirkland. "He said that the impact was so strong that he thought he was hit from behind by another truck."


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Title: Re: Atleast he wore a helmet...
Post by: SlowJoeRacing on March 07, 2008, 09:34:28 PM
man ur not kidding there


Title: Re: Atleast he wore a helmet...
Post by: dirtyface on March 07, 2008, 10:04:05 PM
sick  :o


Title: Re: Atleast he wore a helmet...
Post by: Chevy1500z71 on March 07, 2008, 10:24:09 PM
as much dangerous things as im into and that i do, i still dont think id ever ride a street bike, especialy not 120 on the dam highway. my dads a firefighter and he gets streetbike accidents all the time, they are always bad.


Title: Re: Atleast he wore a helmet...
Post by: Tecatematt on March 07, 2008, 10:41:42 PM
that sucks!, i hoped he died pack and didnt have to feel the pain of being druged! my god some things are just sad!


Title: Re: Atleast he wore a helmet...
Post by: predatorracer8 on March 07, 2008, 10:45:04 PM
sucks i had a good friend die on a bike in december, sucks stuff like this happens.

jake


Title: Re: Atleast he wore a helmet...
Post by: sykolincoln on March 07, 2008, 10:47:20 PM
I bet you that was not to long after he may have purchased that bike, I dont think a white jacket can stay that nice unless its near new, maybe im wrong, still sucks non the less.


Title: Re: Atleast he wore a helmet...
Post by: Islandbreeze07 on March 07, 2008, 11:11:29 PM
Aww, that's sad. It cost this man his life. Exactly how he and bike ended up impacting the back, I don't know but it's obvious after impact, the man got stuck and dragged. Look at his feet. No boots. Not even a sock. Maybe he slammed on his brakes all of a sudden to avoid impacting the truck but ended up flying into the back of the truck.

Whoever put this up probably meant to show how dangerous riding on highways could be. Not sick or anything. My mom refused to let us ride our mopeds again after my accident and hearing stories as a hospital admininstrator.


Title: Re: Atleast he wore a helmet...
Post by: FoxHondaRider on March 07, 2008, 11:15:58 PM
sad to see but stupid for him to do that.  The problem with people on these motorcycles is they arent just riding them they are going fast, trying tricks and other stuff on the street with other cars and truck around them.  If you wanna do trick go to an empty parking lot at night, if you wanna go fast or race go to the drag strip.  I feel bad seeing this but at the same time when you do something stupid like go 120MPH that is out of control.  Things come at you so fast at that speed and your reaction time sucks.  I cant imagine being the truck driver seeing that after pulling over.


Title: Re: Atleast he wore a helmet...
Post by: Slick89 on March 08, 2008, 12:05:27 AM
sad to see but stupid for him to do that.  The problem with people on these motorcycles is they arent just riding them they are going fast, trying tricks and other stuff on the street with other cars and truck around them.  If you wanna do trick go to an empty parking lot at night, if you wanna go fast or race go to the drag strip.  I feel bad seeing this but at the same time when you do something stupid like go 120MPH that is out of control.  Things come at you so fast at that speed and your reaction time sucks.  I cant imagine being the truck driver seeing that after pulling over.

I agree with you Fox and they do it on a busy street like they are showing off trying to impress someone. Common sense should come into play then but it dont... Just be smart and do it in a place where you aint putting other peoples lives in danger. Also i if im not mistaking he lives!!


Title: Re: Atleast he wore a helmet...
Post by: quadracer1992 on March 08, 2008, 12:19:58 PM
I dont think helmets are rated for full impact at 120mph.


Title: Re: Atleast he wore a helmet...
Post by: predatorracer8 on March 08, 2008, 12:31:29 PM
sad to see but stupid for him to do that.  The problem with people on these motorcycles is they arent just riding them they are going fast, trying tricks and other stuff on the street with other cars and truck around them.  If you wanna do trick go to an empty parking lot at night, if you wanna go fast or race go to the drag strip.  I feel bad seeing this but at the same time when you do something stupid like go 120MPH that is out of control.  Things come at you so fast at that speed and your reaction time sucks.  I cant imagine being the truck driver seeing that after pulling over.

I agree with you Fox and they do it on a busy street like they are showing off trying to impress someone. Common sense should come into play then but it dont... Just be smart and do it in a place where you aint putting other peoples lives in danger. Also i if im not mistaking he lives!!

were you trying to say that he would have lived, or he survived that crash if he did thats awesome but he looks gone to me.

jake


Title: Re: Atleast he wore a helmet...
Post by: Slick89 on March 09, 2008, 03:08:21 AM
sad to see but stupid for him to do that.  The problem with people on these motorcycles is they arent just riding them they are going fast, trying tricks and other stuff on the street with other cars and truck around them.  If you wanna do trick go to an empty parking lot at night, if you wanna go fast or race go to the drag strip.  I feel bad seeing this but at the same time when you do something stupid like go 120MPH that is out of control.  Things come at you so fast at that speed and your reaction time sucks.  I cant imagine being the truck driver seeing that after pulling over.

I agree with you Fox and they do it on a busy street like they are showing off trying to impress someone. Common sense should come into play then but it dont... Just be smart and do it in a place where you aint putting other peoples lives in danger. Also i if im not mistaking he lives!!

were you trying to say that he would have lived, or he survived that crash if he did thats awesome but he looks gone to me.

jake


No what I was saying is i received this as an email but in the email it say that the motorcyclist lived! but it doesnt mean that the version of the story i got wasnt twisted around a lil bit.


Title: Re: Atleast he wore a helmet...
Post by: Da_Mtg_Man on March 09, 2008, 08:18:42 AM
I call B.S.
That dudes deader than a door nail.


Title: Re: Atleast he wore a helmet...
Post by: eldiablo64 on March 09, 2008, 07:31:37 PM
there was an accident in clearwater not long ago where one of those crotch rockets hit a suburban so hard the suburban flipped over on top of the bike rider and caught on fire the biker and suburban driver died.my son wants one and we keep tryin to talk him out of it,his friend was killed on one and he still wants one.I keep tellin him get your need for speed on the banshee.


Title: Re: Atleast he wore a helmet...
Post by: jrpro130 on March 09, 2008, 09:18:04 PM
i'm in medic right now.

when someone is alive, their feet don't usually curl up like that.  Also, if the ambulance was there and the guy was alive...they wouldn't have time to take pics, they'd be busy working him.

Looks like he fractured his cervical spine.

That guy is dead.  For sure.



Title: Re: Atleast he wore a helmet...
Post by: predatorracer8 on March 09, 2008, 11:10:30 PM
i'm in medic right now.

when someone is alive, their feet don't usually curl up like that.  Also, if the ambulance was there and the guy was alive...they wouldn't have time to take pics, they'd be busy working him.

Looks like he fractured his cervical spine.

That guy is dead.  For sure.



same thing i was thinking, its amazing that at about probably a 60 mph collision(since the truck was goin highway speed about 70-120=50 so give or take) that his bandana was still in his pocket and his hat was still under the strap. the way his head juts forward it looks like that part of his back is broken.

jake


Title: Re: Atleast he wore a helmet...
Post by: Slick89 on March 10, 2008, 02:30:35 AM
Here another pic yall can look at. its very interesting
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v95/splinter6/Motorcyclecrash.jpg)


Title: Re: Atleast he wore a helmet...
Post by: Moose on March 10, 2008, 08:21:35 AM
My son has wanted to get one of those rice rockets also, that is untill he saw these pics.


Title: Re: Atleast he wore a helmet...
Post by: Young Gun on March 10, 2008, 08:22:18 AM
My son has wanted to get one of those rice rockets also, that is untill he saw these pics.

I still want one. :dunno.gif


Title: Re: Atleast he wore a helmet...
Post by: Fox17 on March 10, 2008, 11:02:44 AM
My son has wanted to get one of those rice rockets also, that is untill he saw these pics.

I still want one. :dunno.gif

yea, im not selling mine cause some stupid loser tried to see how fast he could go and ended up dead. i have a good friend that was a firefighter and he said 90% of all the fatal motorcycle accidents he responded to would not have been fatal if they had a helmet on and if they were not speeding/acting stupid. he said they rarely got hit by a car or something not acting stupid. its all in how you ride. how many people wrap fast cars around trees and die? it isnt like a drunk driver pulled out in front if him. he killed himself.


Title: Re: Atleast he wore a helmet...
Post by: predatorracer8 on March 10, 2008, 02:26:03 PM
My son has wanted to get one of those rice rockets also, that is untill he saw these pics.

I still want one. :dunno.gif

yea, im not selling mine cause some stupid loser tried to see how fast he could go and ended up dead. i have a good friend that was a firefighter and he said 90% of all the fatal motorcycle accidents he responded to would not have been fatal if they had a helmet on and if they were not speeding/acting stupid. he said they rarely got hit by a car or something not acting stupid. its all in how you ride. how many people wrap fast cars around trees and die? it isnt like a drunk driver pulled out in front if him. he killed himself.

stupid loser? i dont agree with that he was doing wat he loved to do he made a mistake, please i know i wouldnt want people to be so harsh about my death if it were like this, im sure you wouldnt either. i know how it feels to read stuff like that when you know the person. but to the others who said "this is why i dont get one" if you want one get one this doesnt happen to everybody who has a bike fox17 is right it was this guys fault and most fatal bike accidents happen due to lack of thinking on the bikers part. so if you want one go get one. eventually i would like to have one as well.

jake


Title: Re: Atleast he wore a helmet...
Post by: 94Hardbody4x4 on March 10, 2008, 02:47:56 PM
For some reason I just don't feel sorry for a guy doing 120mph on a freeway at night and hitting a semi truck. I have no problem with someone doing 120mph but you better expect to pay the price sooner or later. Looks like the reaper caught up to him. Glad he hit that semi trailer instead of the back of a van with a baby in the back seat.

The guy is an idiot.



Title: Re: Atleast he wore a helmet...
Post by: 94Hardbody4x4 on March 10, 2008, 02:49:34 PM
Here another pic yall can look at. its very interesting
([url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v95/splinter6/Motorcyclecrash.jpg[/url])



Is this real or photoshopped? You'd think there would be blood if you flatened a car with a bike.


Title: Re: Atleast he wore a helmet...
Post by: FoxHondaRider on March 10, 2008, 06:19:16 PM
psh its like a geo metro those wouldnt withstand a kid on a bicycle hitting it


Title: Re: Atleast he wore a helmet...
Post by: predatorracer8 on March 10, 2008, 06:48:18 PM
For some reason I just don't feel sorry for a guy doing 120mph on a freeway at night and hitting a semi truck. I have no problem with someone doing 120mph but you better expect to pay the price sooner or later. Looks like the reaper caught up to him. Glad he hit that semi trailer instead of the back of a van with a baby in the back seat.

The guy is an idiot.



think what you want, can reason with a person who doesnt understand.

jake


Title: Re: Atleast he wore a helmet...
Post by: Fox17 on March 10, 2008, 10:56:28 PM
My son has wanted to get one of those rice rockets also, that is untill he saw these pics.

I still want one. :dunno.gif

yea, im not selling mine cause some stupid loser tried to see how fast he could go and ended up dead. i have a good friend that was a firefighter and he said 90% of all the fatal motorcycle accidents he responded to would not have been fatal if they had a helmet on and if they were not speeding/acting stupid. he said they rarely got hit by a car or something not acting stupid. its all in how you ride. how many people wrap fast cars around trees and die? it isnt like a drunk driver pulled out in front if him. he killed himself.

stupid loser? i dont agree with that he was doing wat he loved to do he made a mistake, please i know i wouldnt want people to be so harsh about my death if it were like this, im sure you wouldnt either. i know how it feels to read stuff like that when you know the person. but to the others who said "this is why i dont get one" if you want one get one this doesnt happen to everybody who has a bike fox17 is right it was this guys fault and most fatal bike accidents happen due to lack of thinking on the bikers part. so if you want one go get one. eventually i would like to have one as well.

jake

well, he was acting stupid (at least IMO 120mph is stupid if not on a closed course) and he lost. so there ya go.


Title: Re: Atleast he wore a helmet...
Post by: bignickwaite on March 10, 2008, 11:04:55 PM
psh its like a geo metro those wouldnt withstand a kid on a bicycle hitting it

easy on the geo metro jokes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Atleast he wore a helmet...
Post by: predatorracer8 on March 10, 2008, 11:15:13 PM
My son has wanted to get one of those rice rockets also, that is untill he saw these pics.

I still want one. :dunno.gif

yea, im not selling mine cause some stupid loser tried to see how fast he could go and ended up dead. i have a good friend that was a firefighter and he said 90% of all the fatal motorcycle accidents he responded to would not have been fatal if they had a helmet on and if they were not speeding/acting stupid. he said they rarely got hit by a car or something not acting stupid. its all in how you ride. how many people wrap fast cars around trees and die? it isnt like a drunk driver pulled out in front if him. he killed himself.

stupid loser? i dont agree with that he was doing wat he loved to do he made a mistake, please i know i wouldnt want people to be so harsh about my death if it were like this, im sure you wouldnt either. i know how it feels to read stuff like that when you know the person. but to the others who said "this is why i dont get one" if you want one get one this doesnt happen to everybody who has a bike fox17 is right it was this guys fault and most fatal bike accidents happen due to lack of thinking on the bikers part. so if you want one go get one. eventually i would like to have one as well.

jake

well, he was acting stupid (at least IMO 120mph is stupid if not on a closed course) and he lost. so there ya go.

yes im not saying wat he did was right and if he did hit a mini van with 20 babys in it ya that would be f'ed up but guys, he was out speeding getting an adrenaline rush hit a back of a semi, so now because of that single bad choice he is a complete idiot....IMO no. YES it was a stupid decision he should have brought it to the track. just be respectful to him and his family.

jake


Title: Re: Atleast he wore a helmet...
Post by: KD 428 on March 10, 2008, 11:21:12 PM
I agree with Jake.


Title: Re: Atleast he wore a helmet...
Post by: jrpro130 on March 11, 2008, 11:01:15 AM
For some reason I just don't feel sorry for a guy doing 120mph on a freeway at night and hitting a semi truck. I have no problem with someone doing 120mph but you better expect to pay the price sooner or later. Looks like the reaper caught up to him. Glad he hit that semi trailer instead of the back of a van with a baby in the back seat.

The guy is an idiot.



I'm not sure if anyone else saw the "real" article to this, but it basically said that the semi driver did not even know anything happened until miles down the road, when someone flagged him down, so he slowed down and stopped and took a look...guy was dead.

I am pretty confident to say that when I hear a "motorcycle vs car" accident, they are dead.  I don't want to say a percentile, but they usually are dead.  And if they aren't, they are pretty close.  But I've learned that helmets only save you under 60mph, anything above that they are usually dead.  Not saying I wouldn't wear one...I definetly would, but just in my experience, they don't do much for extreme accidents. 

If people just SLOW DOWN in both cars and motorcycles, there would be a lot less accidents


Title: Re: Atleast he wore a helmet...
Post by: Anoriginal on March 11, 2008, 11:46:34 AM
Riding a motorcycle on the streets of Florida (or any populated states).........it's not a matter of "if" but a rather of "when" and "how bad".


Title: Re: Atleast he wore a helmet...
Post by: Fox17 on March 11, 2008, 03:34:39 PM
Riding a motorcycle on the streets of Florida (or any populated states).........it's not a matter of "if" but a rather of "when" and "how bad".

thats exactly why i dont ride on crowded streets (except during bike week in Daytona but then its all bikes). my bike is for recreational purposes only and only ridden on back roads. its rare if i see more than 30 cars in a hour and a half of riding. i would never ride my bike in orlando crap like that. if im gonna be around cars i like the speed limit under 35.


Title: Re: Atleast he wore a helmet...
Post by: budman on March 11, 2008, 03:49:46 PM
Riding a motorcycle on the streets of Florida (or any populated states).........it's not a matter of "if" but a rather of "when" and "how bad".

Not neccesarily... I have ridden ALL of my life, and NEVER been down. I sold my last street bike about 8-9 years ago, since I figured not having wrecked yet, I might as well call it a career. Then again, I have been called "The Snail" I don't believe I have ever gotten a speeding ticket on a bike, and I always figured every car out there was only on the road to kill me....I was a VERY defensive driver...


Title: Re: Atleast he wore a helmet...
Post by: Anoriginal on March 11, 2008, 04:06:53 PM
Law of averages say it'll happen. Just a matter of time. Hopefully it won't be bad.


Title: Re: Atleast he wore a helmet...
Post by: budman on March 11, 2008, 04:25:46 PM
That's why I sold my LAST street bike. After 35 years without the big one, I figured I might as well quit while I was ahead.... 8)


Title: Re: Atleast he wore a helmet...
Post by: BIGREDTIDE on March 11, 2008, 04:49:50 PM
Yes, the rider died...on impact.  :(

Speed was the obivious factor, and certainly lack of experience.  Looks to have been flying up behind the truck and didn't swerve quick enough, therefore hitting the corner.  Sadly, NO amount of safety gear would've prevented his death in this case.

I ride well over 120, but I ride at a motorcycle track only.  We don't have to worry about curbs, other vehicles (well...other bikes if you go down.  :o), road signs, etc....  We wear FULL gear which is required.  Riding these sportbikes at speed isn't for the inexperienced...that's asking for trouble.  We have had many a "street" rider, whom thinks they're quick, come to the track only to be VERY humbled, or they crash getting in over their heads.

These bikes are made to go fast, and it's an AWESOME feeling to go dragging a knee at 100mph+ (long sweeping corners), and reaching near the limits of these bikes, but the street IS NOT the place for it.  Even at the track you need DOT race tires, and your suspension set-up to handle the high speeds, and low lean angles when cornering through tight, and high speed turns, proper heat & air pressures in the tires, etc.  This is why I bought mine, and I ride at the track only.

These bikes can be ridden easily next to a grandma on a moped, but when you start crankin' on the throttle...you best know what you're in for.   :o

If you younger/inexperienced guys/gals have, or want one...PLEASE ride within your ability.  If you want to push it...take it to a track.   ;)

Learning & getting experience is key!   8)


Title: Re: Atleast he wore a helmet...
Post by: Fox17 on March 15, 2008, 11:25:08 PM
what happened to the pics?


Title: Re: Atleast he wore a helmet...
Post by: logandzwon on March 16, 2008, 09:46:48 PM
Law of averages say it'll happen. Just a matter of time. Hopefully it won't be bad.

You can that about cars too.  I'm 26, been driving 10 years now.  I got my first street bike at 21.  In cars, I have caused a couple accidents, and been hit a couple times, but I haven't ever wrecked on the bikes.  I daily drove motorcycles for about 2 years too.  On a bike you have to drive and think totally different, everyone on the road is there to hit you, push you out of your lane, cut you off, run red lights, etc....

I think the issues is that motorcycles have an appeal to the type that is likely to get an into an accident.  That and they are not as well noticed by cage drivers in la-la land.


Title: Re: Atleast he wore a helmet...
Post by: gearhead400 on March 16, 2008, 10:51:28 PM
ya i love to speed, but it takes a while to get up to 90 in a truck so i dont do it too often. But it takes no time to get to 130 on a bike...sooo i dont own one haha.