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I think im voting for Hillary we need a good ole democrat in there this time

touchy subject ill leave it alone.

Too bad there are no good ole democrats running....

 I don't care how great you are with a name like obama you will never get a vote from me demo or repub.the votes he has allready shows me how screwed up this country is.

  Yep...He cant even put his hand over his heart during the pledge of allegiance, but has the B@lls to run for president?? And we are stupid enough to vote for him? And whatever happent to whitewater...Hillary is a crooked as a dogs hind leg.

SD he doesnt? y not? just wondering

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I was going to stay out of this one but you said what I was thinking anyway. He does refuse to acknowlegde the pledge of allegiance.While he professes to be a Christian,he also comes from a muslim background and states that he does not believe anyone will go to hell and does not know if he will go to heaven.That does not sound like Christian beliefs to me. Does anyone think for a second that if he were to openly say that he has the same muslim beliefs that he would even stand a chance in the run for presidency? His father was a muslim,his mother an atheist,and his stepfather a radical muslim.Obama initially went to a muslim school but did have a brief stint in a catholic school and was put back into a Wahabism muslim school.Wahabism is a radical teaching that is followed by muslim terrorists. Sure Obama is a member of the Trinity church of christ.Did you know that this same church does not allow white people in their congregation and that their main focus is on Africa not America?In fact they refer to America as " The united states of WHITER America"!!! That's not the beliefs of someone I want for president. Okay,I'm done because I hate these political threads although I can't seem to stop reading them.LOL. Do yourself a favor and read up on Mr Obama if your on the fence.You may be surprised.

Obama who???

I think America's drop into stupidity and sheer ignorance will be complete int he even he's elected.

I agree with you completely, BUT, what will it say about us if SHEs elected????

crazy white b or an overproud radical muslim school going, african only praising church going dood.

 shhhh You are going to get this thread deleated. ;)

WE'RE SCREWED EITHER WAY...
 :'(

lmao, im not racist actually one of my good friends(i only have 2) is black so ill rule that out right now. i think it is ok to be proud of your heritage but i think you should have more respect for the country you live in ecspecially if your running for president. if his church thinks like that, than thats on the boundaries of being a racist or atleast thinking like one. i just dont want someone to go in and give all the rights and benefits to one race or religous group(its bad enough already that immigrants get more benefits than actual americans), which i think he would do.

jake

   100% AGREE with you.  :Clap.gif :bow.gif

Either one of those libs will do that. they want so much to appease the far left, that they will make it easier for our borders to be compromised, and that liberties are afforded to all illegals.... with libs, we will be a weakened nation militarily, economically, and morally.....

thank you kind sir

We all need to vote Ron Paul in as a third party candidate. We have really no other options. This old fart McCain will probably blow up the world. I think if your over 70 your to old to run for president. I have family members thats over 70 and there's no way there as swift as they were. :-\

Obama sounds a lot like osama  :o lol I really don't want a democrat to win because look who they are.  plus democrat in office will make the stock market go down.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/obama.asp,  you illiterate rednecks better pack your bags and find a better country because it looks like your not gonna like our next president.  It's very obvious that some of you don't have a clue to what you are talking about so you would be better off keeping your attention on the Disney channel because that is more  your speed.

aside from all the false rumors....he has no substance...Cult of Personality....
His economic plans are going to bankrupt us more than Billary's,
This is a man who claims that as President, he would sit down with the heads of known terrorist - supporting nations...."Without Conditions" and "talk". And he has also said that the nuclear option would be off the table in negotiations. The MAD policy..."Mutual Assured Destruction"  is what has kept the peace since Harry Truman dropped the bomb. Yeah, lets take that off the table. As long as our enemies know we will toast their ass, then they will think twice before messing with us. 9/11 aside, we have been safe from foreign aggression. Don't think for a minute that the North Koreans, or the Chinese would capitalise on that. All of you that think that in this "New World Order" that World War is a thing of the past, because the past can jump up and bite you in the ass.... A weak US as far as our determination to wage war will be the death of our way of life......

snopes that....

and that, my friends is my .02 cents....

Not me.  The Dems need to find better candidates than those 2.   If they get elected you can forget about many of your rights.  You'll pay higher taxes so they can focus on taking away the hobbies you enjoy while gving more of your money to illegals.

I think we need a black president........then us white people can cry racism and maybe get some government aid. ;)

  There is a reason you live in SIN CITY ;).... I DONT WANT NO STINKIN DEMOCRAT IN THE WHITE HOUSE!!! What ever happend to WHITE WATER? The last DEMO we had made ORAL SEX a household saying.  Oh and what about wet foot dry foot? Thank you for all the illigals Mr. Clinton!!!

  Here we go again :o  Hey in another 10 years we will be the minority and get some free sh!t

   I think the older voters in this country have had enough of the oil man in office he bankrupted this country. so is all your doing is to try to pick the lesser of the to evils ,if obama is elected he will end up like martin luther king in the ground

Its funny to listen to bleeding heart liberals, bad mouth us illiterate rednecks. if it weren't for us working and fighting for our country you would allready be saluting another flag. remember this is america land of the free only because we kept it this way. I have no problem with a woman for president just not this one she has been connected to more scandels than any other candidate has and can't keep one man happy much less a country. and I will never vote for anyone with ties to iraq to run this country. the only reason were having this discussion is because all the damn retirees down here actually think the democrats will actually help out with medicare.

wats wrong with illiterate rednecks, i think we should start a fund and have one run for president you wouldnt have to worry about illegals and they would probably open up more riding areas lol. a bonus for us. and i should have stated earlier that my post was completely based of wat i heard here, so sorry for baseing it on that when i should have researched it. but on the other hand he still was a muslim and thats to close to the enemy for me for him to be our president.

jake

It might just work :)  ever see the Dave Chappelle "what it would be like with a black president"?  they show him taking oath then he says 1st things 1st slavery is back and its not us haha

1st off where do you go about calling people illiterate rednecks? Whats wrong with rednecks?  They are some of the nicest people I have met.  Also if your from Reno, Nevada why are you on a Florida ATV site?

I am on this site because I have been a member in "poor" standing for many years.  I was livin in FL for over 30yrs and up till May of 07 I lived in FL.  I have been interested in politics while you were still messing your diapers so back off  ;D. 

There is nothing wrong with rednecks in general but a illiterate redneck is something different.  There are far too many of you guys that don't know didly squat about what is going on in politics or this country and those are the illiterate rednecks that I refer too.  These rednecks are the ones believing everything they here and then trying to repeat it and sound like they know what they are talking about when they don't. 

I could care less who some of these toothless wonders is gonna vote for (that's if they even had their voting rights restored since they were released from the big house) because they don't have a clue about anything.  There are a few on this site that can put two words together and form sentences on their own that I would discuss politics with but most of the people here are on the younger side that repeat the opinions of their parents.

When someone comes on here with a well informed opinion that I value (which there are several people on here like that, just not you Swampy  ;)) then I will discuss politics with them when I feel there is need for my input.

Good luck, Dave

where is anoriginal when you need him to write a good essay.lol
 jake

This upcoming Presidential election has to be one of the worst so far with regards to candidates. If you're a Dem you're screwed neither one of the top 2 are worth a damn . If you're a Republican you are screwed as well   because McCain isn't one so you have no one to vote for in 08 .
 McCain isn't drawing any conservative interest either, he's alienated the party and in many instances voted on the Dems side on many issues.
To sum up  a Democrat will be in office in 09' , regardless of who you vote for and they know it.
 For the first time ever , I cant even decide who to at least vote against .

 To answer to the question posted .....no way in hell will I ever vote for some one refuses to pledge allegiance . I cant even believe he was allowed to run in first place . >:(

Ouch, must be your time of the month, someone is a little sensitive today.  Actually, like I said in one of my responses I don't think all of you guys are toothless rednecks but there is a good percentage of you that are.  Evidently you consider your self one or else you would not have got your panties all in a wad.  I also said that some of you just without any knowledge of politics spout off things "you heard" and that must be where you fall in Cableguy since you said " no I don't know alot about politics".

I posted the snopes link so people can read for themselves that the allegations about Obama are just that "allegations" made by illiterate rednecks that are scared to have a black man as the president.  Face it Cableguy the next president most likely will be black.  You might as well pack your hood and move to Germany with your arian brothers so you can be with your owd kind, kinda like your own little gang.

Meanwhile I will continue to post my opinion about toothless, illiterate rednecks and if this hits too close to home for you Cableguy then tough cookies.  I do come to Florida to visit family and friends and I would be more than happy to discuss anything with you face to face, I'll tell you what give me your phone # and I will call you a week ahead of time which should give you enough time to save up for your liquid courage (Old Milwaukee).

Looks like Cableguys mouth got ahead of his brain, that's what liquid courage will do for you.  But with that being said I will keep my post on here and not withdraw it.

obma also does not have the flag on his jacket, plus he aint smart enough to run the country and u cant put a girl in pffice all they can doo is cook and clean and complian, we ned a good ol boy in there like bush and leeve him alone let him do what he got to do re eltect bush  :) :)

Now you guys know what I mean when I say "toothless, illiterate redneck"  2:L :L

If Obama makes president I am interested in seeing who the Vice President will be. It won't be long before the Vice President moves up.

i herd dat i id   ight

Actually,after reading my response I removed it because I was a little embarrased that I stooped to that level and felt I may have been over reacting a bit. Now that I read your response I will most definately repost it. The insult was directed at me regardless of how you generalize it because it was in response to my reply. You could have corrected me or gave me your opinion as I gave mine but instead you chose to demean my opinion and insult me.I will be the first to say that I dont know alot about politics and have but with that being said I do find politics interesting and enjoy the debates regarding them. I have no problem what so ever being corrected ,infact I appreciate it when it's done with good intentions.You are the one that responded to my post with the snopes info which is fine, but to insult  some one you don't know personally was uncalled for. As far as talking to you on the phone forget it.That's no different to me than key board boxing. I will talk to you in person guaranteed. Either post prior to coming to town or PM me. I will make it very clear where I will be riding / camping when you announce your arrival and will make it very convienant for you to find me. In fact,I ride a 2002 yellow and Black DS 650, I almost always ride at Croom when I go and I drive a black 1996 silverado pick up. Here is a picture of it for you. Just so you know,NOTHING happens in front of my girls.Give me the old head nod and we can go into the woods, meet at the gate or what ever for our little discussion. I may not be college educated but I do have my pride and dignity. I'm not an illiterate redneck as you stated and yes the insult hit a nerve only because it's combined with your better than thou attitude. Enough said. See ya soon.Hopefully.

According to snopes I stand corrected regarding his church allowing white members into their congregation.However,that is the only thing that is incorrect ,although if you look at the percentage of the congregation you will see that it is ridiculously lopsidided.I stated that he professes to be christian but has a muslim back ground. I never said HE was a radical muslim I said he had a muslim back ground.Muslim father,radical Muslim stepfather,muslim schooling.For your information Assahallic,that's a muslim background. I also stated that he refuses to acknowledge the pledge of allegiance. He may recite it but if there is a picture of him that clearly shows he would not put his hand over his heart during the recital of it, in my book that is not acknowledging it.He DOES say that he does not know if he will go to heaven.The main focus of his church IS africa, not america and they HAVE refered to us as the whiter america. A$$ahallic,you have been coming on here for a long long time and almost every time I read a reply with your name attached to it it's in a condensending fashion. I notice you did your little snopes detective work and found that the church does accept "as minute as it may be" white people into their congregation however you convientally skipped right over the other valid points made and instead you accuse me of being an illiterate redneck? I guess if I am than it would be expected for me to walk up to you,introduce myself, "as the illiterate redneck of course" and pregnant dog slap you in the side of the forhead and stand there while you look at me like a little kid who just had his lunch money taken. Your an arrogant a$$hole and I'm 10000% positive you are one of the many internet tough guys that ridicules people via the key board because it makes you feel intellectually superior but in person you only get mouthy when you get a little buzz going only to get the above mentioned pregnant dog slapping before realizing yes you are indeed only an internet bully and nothing else. Yes ,I would say the same things to your face,and no I dont know alot about politics. I do however have an opinion and you don't have to agree with it but you should respect it instead of being a$$ahallic. I see that you moved out of state and I fully expect you to come back with a macho rebutal to my statements only because you are indeed the true bully behind the monitor. By all means please post when and if you ever intend on coming back for a visit and I promise you I will openly accept your invitiation to meet should you desire to give you the chance to prove me wrong by spewing your insults in person. I'm no tough guy I'm just an illiterate redneck that calls them like I see them. You can debate with me,correct me,enlighten me or teach me just don't insult me unless it's called for or you would do it in person,which in this case is neither.Good night buddy.

Wrong, wrong again.

Not all girls can cook and clean.  Some only complain.

 That doesnt help our cause any..does it fish. ;)

matt learn how to spell first you total moron

I am here. I really don't know what to say about this. I personally find Obama and Clinton equally repulsive. However, if I were forced to choose between the two, I'd probably pick Clinton over Obama for the simple reason that, because she is the consummate politician, she's less likely to act in an extreme manner one way or the other.

On the Republican side, I am not a McCain fan. But, I think he's a much better prospect than anyting the Democrats have to offer. Neither Obama nor Clinton have the credentials (in experience or ability to get the job done) that McCain have, and that's not saying much.

I agree, it's a sad field to choose from.

Finally an informed opinion, even though I don't agree.  Tell me, did you think GW had the experience?  The answer to that should be NO. 

What I am saying is that ANY, I repeat ANY of the remaining 3 would be a whole lot better than what we have now.   With McCain or Clinton we would be getting basically more of the same just not near as dumb, with Obama we would definitely get a big change and with the way this country has been going the last 10 + yrs, that is exactly what we need.

Compared to Hillary or Obama, just about anyone is a better choice.

I am not against change. However, I find Obama to be extremely slated to the left...and then in only pockets that suit his agendas. The thought of the American people electing Obama sickens me. Honestly, it does.

In fact, this entire election makes me ill. One thing everyone seems to agree on is the complete lack of decent candidates on either side.

Oh!!!~ and Obama's 3 years in the Senate mark him as a tried and true candidate  ::) give me a break....by the way Mr. informed Fish  ;) what exactly has obama done to in his great tenure to allow him the most important job on this planet the President of the United States??? I'll tell you Obama has only three years experience in the Senate, and in those three years he managed to sponsor such important bills as Senate Resolution 529, designating July 13, 2006, as "National Summer Learning Day," to the delight of children across the country. WOW!!! change for the sake of change is not always in our best interests. In the 2006 congressional elections, the Democratic candidates promised change as a matter of fact they said within the first 100 hours that we would see them in all their glory making all their promised changes!!!!! Do you hear that its the clock still ticking 2 years later for all that change. I just hope that the informed voter will look past all the presidential rhetoric and preaching and look at expeirence and the records. We must look past the thin veil of what we want to hear on the outside and get to the meat on the inside that's where true change will come from. 

i can speeel just fine

Dont let @$$holes get to you......not worth your time

    David Hastlehoff for PRESIDENT!!!

The only people that GW has bankrupted are the poor.  All the big compaines making mad money http://www.forbes.com/lists/2007/18/biz_07forbes2000_The-Global-2000-United-States_10Prof.html
check for yourselfs and guess who runs this country we live in.  Sh*t under GW i started making more money also.  Bill Gates for president..

im goin for mike huckabee[R]
but i wont really be to upset as long as obama or hillary dont win or any other ball-less pansy that withdraws from iraq 

Another seemingly informed post that I can respond to :Clap.gif.

Your point about Obamas short tenure is a good one but if you dig a little more you will find out he spent 8yrs in the Illinois state senate.  Now this is a state post and not a national post but he still was getting valuable experience on how our government works.  I would put up this experience against GW any day of the week, and not to mention that GW is a not the brightest bulb in the box.

And yes change for the sake of change is not always good, but I can't see how anyone could do worse than GW. 

Your point about the Dems pulling the troops out of Iraq within 100 hrs of being sworn in does not really apply hear.  No one person can get something done without a majority.   I don't know who would have said that they would pull the troops out within 100 hrs anyway.  They may have said to set a timetable to pull the troops out but even then they need the votes, which they don't have.  Besides that I don't believe it is the will of the American people to pull them out within 100 hrs.  The American people are just looking to get a timetable set.

Those are good points though.

  I wish Huckabee had a chance, but I am afraid there is no possible way for that to happen. I like his pro-life views and his support of traditional marrage. We need someone that will deal with the problems this country has now...NOT smoke and mirrors. This country does not need another band-aid we have become morally bankrupt as a nation and is much larger than any one man or woman can fix. You can blame GW if you wish but lets not forget...we have a democratic congress. I am tired of the empty campaign lies "I will change this and fix that and you all get free $$$" same crap every 4 years just different faces telling the same lies. Put God back in our lives, focus on what made this country great and get some AMERICAN PRIDE. Stop outsourcing for cheap labor, stop illegal immigration, tax as you spend (rich spend more, poor spend less) not as you earn and BUY AMERICAN. We can have the best of the best in the white house but until this nation as a whole signs on for some serious changes and gets back to the basics this country was founded on we will continue get what we deserve. I can only pray its not a Muslim extremist or a Jilted 1st lady with blood on her hands. JMHO

Fish, maybe you should move to south Africa were you can see how great it is to have a black president. If you can make it back alive you can give an autobiography on your experience. I'm sure your views will change. :K

swamp, i agree with you on alot of things even though we have never met. what gets me the most on this site is when somebody like f!!aholic comes on talks about how much better he is than us dumb ole rednecks. and poliltically i definitely don't have all the answers to fix the worlds problem but if he is as great as he thinks he is, he ought to be somebody. instead f!!aholic you are on here typing sh!! you dont know about either. gwb hasn't done any worse than the rest especially the clintons.

Fish please dont move to Africa.If you do chances are you may never come back for a visit and that would suck. By the way I'm open to go riding at Croom the weekend of March 22nd, March 29th or any time in April. Let me know if you can make it.Thanks.

Get it right people, we are a constitutional republic, not a democracy.  In a democracy - mob rules.  In our system, the electorate votes choose the president.  This is not a beauty pageant.  We are leaning ever so close to socialism.  As far as the pledge of allegiance, I have a real big problem with my children attending the government run cesspool that we refer to as "public school".  They start the day off with their hand over their heart reciting the same thing every day.  They have no clue what it means.  Think of the young Nazis with their hands high in the air looking at the swastika.  This is just what the politicians want, good little government subjects.  Throw in some ritalin for the trouble makers and they can keep everyone the same.  This country is great because of the people that fought hard to defend it.  Our flag has 3 colors, stars and stripes for a reason.  We have a constitution and live by the rule of law. Please be good Demicans and Republicrats and don't exercise self responsibility (that's how your government wants it).  Please vote responsibly for your local officials or don't vote at all.  If you value your freedom vote Libertarian.

The most amusing thing about Obama is all his talk about "CHANGE" Yet he has the nerve to accept the support of TED KENNEDY?????? Oh yeah I really see his vision for change there! You gotta be kidding me. I can't believe anyone else hasn't questioned this. Ted Kennedy and change in politics go together like an environmentalist and an ATV rider! Pretty dam pathetic, so many running for office but still no real choice for anything but the same ole same ole!

 Well this is how I see it. There is a great amount of interest in this year’s presidential elections, on this site among others and everybody seems to recognize that our next president has to be a lot better than George Bush (Easy to blame one man). The Democrats are riding high with two groundbreaking candidates — a woman and an African-American — while the conservative Republicans are in a quandary about their party’s nod to a quasi-liberal maverick, John McCain.

Each candidate is carefully pandering to a smorgasbord of special-interest groups, ranging from gay, lesbian and transgender people to children of illegal immigrants to working mothers to evangelical Christians.

There is one group no one has recognized, and it is the group that will decide the election: the Angry White Man. The Angry White Man comes from all economic backgrounds, from dirt-poor to filthy rich. He represents all geographic areas in America, from urban sophisticate to rural redneck, deep South to mountain West, left Coast to Eastern Seaboard.

His common traits are that he isn’t looking for anything from anyone — just the promise to be able to make his own way on a level playing field. In many cases, he is an independent businessman and employs several people. He pays more than his share of taxes and works hard.

The victimhood syndrome buzzwords — “disenfranchised,” “marginalized” and “voiceless” — don’t resonate with him. “Press ‘one’ for English” is a curse-word to him. He’s used to picking up the tab, whether it’s the company Christmas party, three sets of braces, three college educations or a beautiful wedding.

He believes the Constitution is to be interpreted literally, not as a “living document” open to the whims and vagaries of a panel of judges who have never worked an honest day in their lives.

The Angry White Man owns firearms, and he’s willing to pick up a gun to defend his home and his country. He is willing to lay down his life to defend the freedom and safety of others, and the thought of killing someone who needs killing really doesn’t bother him.

The Angry White Man is not a metrosexual, a homosexual or a victim. Nobody like him drowned in Hurricane Katrina — he got his people together and got the hell out, then went back in to rescue those too helpless and stupid to help themselves, often as a police officer, a National Guard soldier or a volunteer firefighter.

His last name and religion don’t matter. His background might be Italian, English, Polish, German, Slavic, Irish, or Russian, and he might have Cherokee, Mexican, or Puerto Rican mixed in, but he considers himself a white American.

He’s a man’s man, the kind of guy who likes to play poker, watch football, hunt white-tailed deer, call turkeys, play golf, go 4 wheeling, spend a few bucks at a strip club once in a blue moon, change his own oil and build things. He coaches baseball, soccer and football teams and doesn’t ask for a penny. He’s the kind of guy who can put an addition on his house with a couple of friends or build a deck for his camp @ RR, drill an oil well, weld a new bumper for his truck, design a factory and publish books. He can fill a train with 100,000 tons of coal and get it to the power plant on time so that you keep the lights on and never know what it took to flip that light switch.

Women either love him or hate him, but they know he’s a man, not a dishrag. If they’re looking for someone to walk all over, they’ve got the wrong guy. He stands up straight, opens doors for women and says “Yes, sir” and “No, ma’am.” I do every day.

He might be a Republican and he might be a Democrat; he might be a Libertarian or a Green. He knows that his wife is more emotional and rational than him, and with her help he guides the family in a rational manner.

He’s not a racist, but he is annoyed and disappointed when people of certain backgrounds exhibit behavior that typifies the worst stereotypes of their race. He’s willing to give everybody a fair chance if they work hard, play by the rules and learn English.

Most important, the Angry White Man is pissed off. When his job site becomes flooded with illegal workers who don’t pay taxes and his wages drop like a stone, he gets righteously angry. When his job gets shipped overseas, and he has to speak to some incomprehensible idiot in India for tech support, he simmers. When Al Sharpton comes on TV, leading some rally for reparations for slavery or some such nonsense, he bites his tongue and he remembers. When a child gets charged with carrying a concealed weapon for mistakenly bringing a penknife to school, he takes note of who the local idiots are in education and law enforcement.

He also votes, and the Angry White Man loathes Hillary Clinton. Her voice reminds him of a shovel scraping a rock. He recoils at the mere sight of her on television. Her very image disgusts him, and he cannot fathom why anyone would want her as their leader. It’s not that she is a woman. It’s that she is who she is. It’s the liberal victim groups she panders to, the “poor me” attitude that she represents, her inability to give a straight answer to an honest question, his tax dollars that she wants to give to people who refuse to do anything for themselves.

There are many millions of Angry White Men. Four million Angry White Men are members of the National Rifle Association, and all of them will vote against Hillary Clinton, just as the great majority of them voted for George Bush.

He hopes that she will be the Democratic nominee for president in 2008, and he will make sure that she gets beaten like a drum.

 Ignorant Florida Red Neck,
                              SWAMP

Obama, HAHAHAHAHA, I hope America is a alot smarter than that, HE'S AFRO-AMERICA! HAHAHAHAHAHA, anyway this suject shouldn't even be on this website!

Thanks for the reply Fish!!! Glad I made it!! Your points equally as good as always   ;D

Funny Cableguy, I am the true bully behind the monitor but yet you are the one mentioning violence  :no.  That is strange since I have never posted anything about violence unless someone mentioned to me first (remember I am a democrat, so I am a lover not a fighter).  However for you Cableguy (you will notice I don't play with your name and cuss like a sailor to make my point) I will make an exception, but I would not waist my time making a special trip to Florida to do it.  Since evidently I insulted your manhood, and the only way you will ever feel like a man again is if you fight me then come and get it.  Fly out to Reno, I will pick you up we will go to a vacant lot where I will proceed to defend my honor against the computer bully.    YOU WANT IT COME GET IT

The ball is in your court tough guy behind the monitor, you brought up the violence and I will truly end the discussion for you when we meet.  Since you are having a time with your manhood I suspect you will come see me but if you can't do that then you will have to wait toughguy until I show up down there because I would not make a special trip down there to beat up a toothless, illiterate redneck.

 Whew.... I can sleep good now. I thought you had been stalking me...mayby it was JACK-L :o

To the rest of you followers.  Get over it, I am a leader not a follower I form my own opinion (which some of you think is wrong) and just because it's different than yours don't get all upset.  If you are a misinformed braindead moron and can't come up with a original thought then you should continue to do what people tell you.  If you come up with an original thought and can express it like a normal human then I will be glad to discuss why you are so wrong.

I know for a fact that some of you agree with me but you are scared to go against "the majority" which is fine, but some day you will get enough intestinal fortitude to speak your mind even if it means that you may stand alone which is where I stand here.  You don't see me running away, no, I will stand my ground and put my .02 in when ever I see fit.  I will rarely start a political discussion, though I have started a few but I will alway make my self known when you get carried away with your rhetoric.

Swamp, Swamp swamp, good post and I agree with some of the things you said but not the above.  If I remember correctly, didn't the NRA or its lackies mention something about our government being socialist http://www.vpc.org/press/9706mcve.htm goosestepping terrorist.  This certainly would not be an organization that I would support or even proclaim to be a member.  I believe that we have the best gov't in the world and would never say or imply such a thing about our gov't or the police, FBI, ATF or any other one of our law enforcement agencies.

 Fishy, although I almost (almost) NEVER agree with you I do however respect your "stand up for what I believe" mentality. I do also have a "if its in my head its out of my mouth" personality. I speak my mind and am brutally honest with folks (overly so...according to my wife) but I believe you should always let folks know where you stand. I think you are CRAZY for being a Oboma supporter and need to "just say NO" ....  but I respect your desire to stand up for what you believe.  FREAK!!!  LOL

Are you stupid? You're well versed and seem to be intelligent however you have no common sense. Why dont you go back to your original response to my first reply in this thread which is what started all of this. Take off the "I'm much smarter than you" blinders for a second. All you had to do was say that you disagreed with my political statements or prove them wrong for that matter and it would have been a dead issue but instead you have to call me an illiterate redneck because of what I believe. You were the one that started the insults which resulted in my coming back at you. The fact is that you like to demean people that have a different view than yourself and your not used to someone that doesn't back down.Well too f _ _king bad! That's what happens when you insult someone for nothing more than having their own opinion. Enough with the ridiculous comments about picking me up at the airport. You know that will never happen but man it sure sounds scary. Look,I gave you plenty of information so you can get ahold of me if you ever come to visit.I told you where I will be,I told you what I ride,I even gave you a picture of my vehicle.As a matter of fact I will even give you a picture of me so you can pick me out in the crowd. Now,the ball is in your court. For someone that portrays themself to be intellectually superior you sure are a moran.

Oh yeah,sorry to disappoint you with the Miller Lites but they were all out of Milwaukees Best.

Nothing like white box. ;)

Yeah,I know but I said to leave my girls out of it and I will do the same for him. There are lines that even I will not cross.

  Oh you just keep letting the "South" down...Shame on you.  LOL

Actually Cableguy you are wrong again.  I never insulted you until you decided to beat me up.  I said in my second post that it was a general statement not meant at anyone.  Yes I did quote you when I mentioned it but that was more for the snopes.com reply.  You are the one that got upset, you are the one who said you wanted to fight me and you are the one who said to meet you at the gate of Croom (even though you know I live in Reno) so you are also the one that " knows that will never happen but man it sure sounds scary.  Let me see you are the one who posted a picture of his truck, you are the one who posted his own picture and yes you are the one with cramps right now.  Get over it, you want to feel like someone insulted you so you can try to make a name for yourself for being the "The one who threatened FishaHallic".  Wow I am scared now, I won't post anything now because the poor little cableguy might get offended.  Poor little cableguy, poor little pathetic cableguy.  Your a follower Cableguy and that is all you will ever be, maybe you should find another website where all they do is pat each other on the back or by the look of your picture (with that big square jaw of yours) maybe you would prefer someone patting you on your tender little bottom.

 Fishy, I want to kick yer butt 2...say some nice things about me... please...I am waiting in my front yard......  next to the Garden Jocky. :D

You know it's kind of ironic in a way because of all the similarities between us.For example,we both like the UFC and have been watching it for years.We both are marrried and have daughters. We both are very opinionated.Although your older were not really that far apart in age. And finally we both waste alot of our time on this site.The only thing that really seperates us "besides your infinate superior wisdom of course" is class. I for one am confident enough in myself to admit if I may have said something I should'nt have while you could never bring yourself to admit any fault. Like I said long ago your arrogant.There is a difference between standing up for yourself and saying what you believe and ridiculing others in the process because they are not as versed as you or as knowledgable in a particular subject. I will honestly say that I'm dissapointed in myself for letting you get me this pissed and for stooping this low. I would be very embarrased and ashamed if my wife and daughter knew I relapsed back into my younger ways.That makes me even more pissed at you and your arrogance. As far as threatening you goes,I'm only giving you the oppurtunity to practice what you preach.If you can sing it than bring it. It's very possible for you to meet me here in Florida since you have relatives here so dont act like I'm the one that's bluffing.I gave you everything you need if you choose to do so.There are plenty of people on here that know me that will tell you that it is me in the picture and I say what I mean.I don't _ uck with anybody unless they _ uck with me.In fact I'm the one that has always stuck up for the under dog my whole life while you were probably the one that picked on people. With that being said your best bet is to back up off me and move on to someone else that will let you ridicule them or follow through with your promise when you come to visit your relatives. The ball is truly in your court tough guy.

You started off this post so nicely and then you reverted back to your old ways.  Again you are the one that keeps threatening me.  I will never start a fight but I sure will not run from one either.  You really should find another website or stay off the web altogether, it's a tough place out here not for the faint hearted which you seem to be.

You seem to study my everymove for some reason.  You just can't let it go can you.  You have some issues that counseling or maybe even medication could help with, please do yourself and your family a favor and get help NOW before it's too late.  Who knows, someday you may make eye contact with someone who is having a bad day and you being sooooo sensitive could get in over your head leaving your family without a father.  I have a bad temper also but I have learned to control it (after rear ending someone who pulled out in front of me) but at the same time I will not tolerate someone calling me out tough guy. 

So I will say it one more time for you, "YOU WANT IT COME AND GET IT".  If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen.  I will not let this go, so as long as you keep it up I will also, so tough guy with the family, daughter and everything else put up or "SHUT UP".  I could have added another word in that last comment but I try to keep it civil

If you continue to say "you want it come get it" in capital letters does that mean you are extra tough? For the last time,you know how to get in touch with me if you choose. You just pointed out another one of our similar traits. Bad tempers. I don't need extensive therapy thanks to the reaction of my girls after an issue in my younger stupid days.Excluding a few minor exceptions I have out grown the road rage issues and am now down to only the stubborn pride issue. I like you don't like being challenged verbally or physically and refuse to back down. You dont need to remind me that there is always the chance of getting in over my head and jeopardizing my families well being. I know that better than most but unfortunately I grew up fighting and it's taking a little longer than some would like for me to leave that barbaric mentality behind and act like a civilized person no matter the situation. Honestly the way I feel sometimes I may need a little therapy but I'm working on it. It's more an issue of pride than immaturity in my opinion.In fact since I already said where I stand in the beginning of this paragraph I will try a little self help therapy and end this message without another challenge.Here goes nothing.I feel a break through.

You might want to check your man George Bush, I do believe that he is now talking (negotiating) with the Axis of Evil which are, N. Korea, Iran, and Syria when he said he would never do that.  GW also ridiculed Clintons negotiations with N. Korea and turned around and made the very same offer to the N. Koreans.  Your man is now doing what he said he would never do, at least we know where Obama stands on this issue.  We have gotten nowwhere in the last 7yrs with dumber than dirt GW in office until he started talking to our enemies.  Remember the old saying "hold your friends close and your enemies even closer".

George also got upset because of a congressional delegation visiting Syria (because they are part of the "Axis of Evil") and then turned around and sent in his own delegation in to "talk to them" several weeks later. 

When it comes to foreign policy, military policy, homeland security, economics, and any other policy he has, they are all failures.  The only policy that you could consider a victory for him is his energy policy and that is only if your part of Big Oil, where they will make almost $40,000,000,000.00 in profit this year.  Yes he is a great president and something you republicans can be very proud of  ::).

 :bow.gif :bow.gif, a long journey begins with the first step.

That was the first thing you said with any intelligents and after that you still want Obama. If you want real change you should look in to the candidate with some real intelligents, like Ron Paul. He might run as a third party candidate and he might do good do to the fact that majority of americans do not like McCain, Hillary and obama.

mayby we can get a group rate ;D

That's too funny!!  :D

This post got way out of control. Me and trx#9 are going to the Fuzzy Pickle. He got me some free passes. Any of you guys want to come along, you're welcome. I'm buying the first round.

Sweet its double tuesday too.   :P

Wow...... two guys going drinking at the Fuzzy Pickle.  Does that sound right?  ???

http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/11/che-obama/

I agree the post did get way out of control.Honestly I'm embarrased by my actions. I arrived to work this morning still pissed and still thinking about it and it started to effect the way I was dealing with my employees. Once I realized that I closed my office door and spent the next two hours working on a spread sheet until I was no longer thinking about it. At lunch I started laughing at myself for getting so pissed from a conversation over the internet that I posted a picture of myself hoping to entice a meeting.I can truly say I'm over it now and have learned from the experience.My opinion has not changed in the slightest however and I'm sure that Fish and I have an understanding of where each of us is coming from. Perhaps are paths will cross someday soon and we can finalize things between us but until then I'm done getting worked up over the internet. I admit I let my temper get the best of me and acted like one of the kids that we all complain about from time to time. Damn internet.lol.