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Title: Flattrack quads needed Post by: LIV2RIDE on November 16, 2004, 11:10:02 AM I recieved this E-mail today. I just thought I would pass it along.
Hello, There is a flat track in ocala, FL running quads. running gocarts,gadgets,bikes,micro sprints, and quads. It is a flat 1/4 mile clay oval track Practice Wednesday after 5:00 PM, and all day Sunday races are Saturday 7:00pm gates open at 3:00 PM. Track is just north of hard rock Mx track. motor sports mania, track # 352-867-5278 (new owner) http://www.motorsports-mania.com/gokarts.asp No knobby tires Need more quads Thanks, Kalvin PS let other people know Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: LTZ400ApK on November 16, 2004, 11:27:02 AM i received it also,sounds like fun anyone got some flat track tires :-/
Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: Hoosier Daddy on November 16, 2004, 12:07:09 PM i got the same email... OK. how did our email address get out there?
Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: FoxGuy_TRX450R on November 16, 2004, 01:39:45 PM More then likely it is probably someone that visits the board, because our Email addies are on the board, I didnt get the email, I got an Instant Message via AOL. Also it's not a bad thing that you got an email, its a good thing, how many other track owners do you know would go out of there way, or hire someone to get the word out? Not many, they are trying to help us make the ATV racing culture bigger. It all starts somewhere and 1 small email is a good way to get started. Think about it everyone is on the internet nowadays, 1 email turns into 5000, and bam you have a huge event with possible TV coverage... Instead of looking for reasons to bash someone(not saying you were), lets try to help them out.
-Brandon Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: Hoosier Daddy on November 16, 2004, 01:47:47 PM i was just curious thats all.........never said i was complaining..
Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: Hoosier Daddy on November 25, 2004, 05:28:56 AM anyone doing this??
Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: Hoosier Daddy on November 25, 2004, 05:29:16 AM anyone???
Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: LIV2RIDE on November 27, 2004, 05:03:19 PM I'm gonna give it a try. I just gotta get some slicks :-/
Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: 450R_Matt on November 28, 2004, 07:00:38 PM Quote i received it also,sounds like fun anyone got some flat track tires :-/ ;D... to bad it so damn far away from here Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: Hoosier Daddy on November 29, 2004, 04:48:20 AM GUYS, PLEASE SEE THE STOLEN FORUM ON A STOLEN 250R PLEASE!!
Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: mod81 on December 04, 2004, 02:13:32 PM guys youd better get them tires soft....ive got thousands of laps on this track in a kart,it's slicker than owl $hit....low 30s on the durometer....you could try dadecity you can run nobbies on their flat track...
Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: 450R_Matt on December 04, 2004, 06:29:34 PM Who's Kalvin?.... ???
Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: Hoosier Daddy on December 05, 2004, 09:47:50 AM i dunno? DS is not going to let knobbys run forever. all of us with flattrack tires will get ya in the corners anyway...
Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: mod81 on December 05, 2004, 03:36:34 PM dadecity will allow nobbies as long as they race the flat track...from what ive seen of the quads on the flattrack not many of them(i didnt say all)know anything about circle track racing...theres only a couple guys ive seen out there that know how to run a line that doesnt kill the motor in the corner..one of the fastest quads ive seen out there was on nobbies...if the tracks gets a hard groove the flattrack tires will free the quad up in the corners,but they plan to drag the track every few classes so i dont see it getting a very solid groove...i would like to see some mini quad racers, i will build a quad for my son if some others start to come...dont know if you guys are aware or not but next year randy is planning a combined flattrack/mx series.....
Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: Hoosier Daddy on December 05, 2004, 03:42:48 PM Starting next season i was told flattrack tires were the rule and we field 3 bikes out there. I know you know how we are because i read the post someone put about randy and you were a big contributer to that post. i disagre with your knobby is faster comment. our bikes placed 2 and 3rd the first race weekend (aka mudfest ;D) and 2 and 3 again the week after on flattrack tires not to mention heat 1 and 2 were won buy a bike with flattrack tires and the other bikes had knobbys all the way around... so im not sure what your seeing..maybe you should race with us since you seem to know how its done...
Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: mod81 on December 05, 2004, 03:59:51 PM no where in my post did i say nobbies were faster and i plan on racing with you when more than two guys learn to ride..all i said was other than a couple of guys tires arent a factor..ive made more laps in a circle than i care to mention..i've also forgotten more about a machine go left than most people will ever know...maybe randy has changed his mind but i was told there wasnt going to be a tire rule...if he goes to a tire rule he pretty much kills any chance of getting the mxér to participate...i will run the flat track because i love to race and oval is my game.i enjoy mx but dont have time for me and my son to race on a points nite(he aquires all my attention)just out of curiosity are you guys scaling the quads???
Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: Hoosier Daddy on December 05, 2004, 04:11:22 PM i was refuring to the "one of the fastest bike ive seen are on knobbys" post..
nah were not scaling them, but i have had a HUGE problem getting my gearing right, my engine is built totaly different that of our others so its hard for me to compare with the other banshee's we have, its lke im stuck between gears..... about 3/4 in the straight im pegged...ill try to figure it out at practice i guess.. my thoughts are if they keep allowing knobby tires its taking away the true meaning of flattracking... Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: Hoosier Daddy on December 05, 2004, 04:13:44 PM also out of curiosity who are these 2 guys who you think can ride?
BTW have you seen this track in ocala? any good? Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: mod81 on December 05, 2004, 04:44:14 PM i have several championships and won multiple 50 lappers at the motorsportmania complex....the track is layed out well,it has so ga red clay,if the track is ran in the daytime it gets a blue groove harder than asphalt..at nite it super slick...i can give you some tips on prep that works well on this track..just curious who beat you guys the first two races?i was at the mx track the nite of the opener but it went so quickly i didnt get to see any of the racing..there have been a couple hybrids on mx tires that were flying,ive seen you guys ride and if the marbles werent on the hi groove you would be alot faster..are you adj your gear from the countershaft or axle....you guys have some sweet looking bikes,too much polishing for me though ;D ;D
Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: Hoosier Daddy on December 05, 2004, 05:04:26 PM i noticed you avioded my whos the 2 fast guys?... :P
ive been moving the rear around. if the track was cosistant or blue i would be set.. but when its wet it bogs in the corner even if i make a wider line... gets agervaiting. 1 first sat was tim he rides a black 450, my bro came in 2nd and i came in 3rd. thats was the night it rained the track was just mud and flat track tires do not hookup in that mess. last sat was a guy on a blue and white FT banshee, my bro again and my dad was 3rd riding my bike. i had to go out of town.. my bike is the 07 bike.. but im sure you figured that out... by bro rides the other blue banshee and my dad rode the white 250r which was stolen the sun after the first race.. he's now looking for another bike.. i just made mine super wide on all 4, ill try things out thursday Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: mod81 on December 05, 2004, 05:16:30 PM no offense but with the current condition of the race track the 4 stroke has the edge....the wet track doesnt make them bog as bad and they like to lug anyway...i would like to see it get hard and fast ,i think they want the soft cushion to prevent the wall from getting too close..how did they do the starts and how many quads did they race at one time?i would really like for some mini quads to show if you know of any spread the word..i wont say who i thought was the fastest to keep from hurting anyones feelings,cause its just my opinion,i didnt have a stopwatch to back it up...i have a friend who rides with you guys on thursday nites on the yellow r...its down a lil on horsepower but hes an old flat tracker a loves the track,i cant talk him into putting his hybrid back out there...
Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: Hoosier Daddy on December 05, 2004, 05:36:59 PM sinn right? he runs 5 laps and hes done, i think hes more of an mxr. i heard he has a 450 he likes to run, havent seen it though. well since you havent seen any of the races and the 3 of us have been the only bikes practicing, its not to hard to figure this out. i assume your not talking about me as being fast. just keep in mind none of us are young, hell my dads 56 and he races still, we really dont out there to win we go out there to be a family. however, i think if i lost some weight i might improve as well....
Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: Hoosier Daddy on December 05, 2004, 06:14:03 PM btw
the track 2 sts ago wasnt just wet,, it was more of a mud bog,, thats not an exaggeration. gary (yellow 400) and i had to almost stop in the corners to turn. i was doing the 4 wheel sideways slide.... Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: RTR_380/450R on December 05, 2004, 06:28:27 PM My brother and i were out at dade city one practice night tearing the flat track up on knobbys. They worked very well out there and I would be hard pressed to say that flat track tires would be able to perform better. Just my opinion! Its a different kind of dirt!
jt Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: Hoosier Daddy on December 05, 2004, 06:30:07 PM when were you there
Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: RTR_380/450R on December 05, 2004, 07:13:36 PM 2-3 months ago!! We were the ones that the old guy that grooms the flattrack yelled at! He about got his grill cracked!!
but thats another story!! Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: 450R_Matt on December 05, 2004, 07:41:53 PM Quote My brother and i were out at dade city one practice night tearing the flat track up on knobbys. They worked very well out there and I would be hard pressed to say that flat track tires would be able to perform better. Just my opinion! Its a different kind of dirt! jt Tearing up the track is right in some cases. Most tracks dont want to see nothing but Flattrack tires. Out at Hendry there is no way a set of Knobbies could hang with A set of 19-10-10 Sd33 compound American Racers. By the end of the night there was so much rubber down on the track it was black in the corners. But if the track was wet ...Hang on!! If you race Circle track the rule should be Flattrack tires only. That way everybody is on the same tire no matter what the track conditions are. Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: RTR_380/450R on December 05, 2004, 07:49:49 PM Depends on what type of terrain your runnin! Ive run some tracks where FT tires is the only thing that should be run, and ive run tracks where knobs is the only thing that should be run. Your only tearing up the track if its the kind of track that aint supposed to be tore up! But yes, Hendry Cnty was almost like concrete at times from what i Understand!
jt Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: 450R_Matt on December 05, 2004, 07:58:20 PM Ive been behind a quad out there at Hendry and you could see smoke commin of the right rear. In my race car the tires would squeel all the way threw the corners. Ha they call it dirt... ::)
Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: Hoosier Daddy on December 06, 2004, 03:05:13 AM Quote 2-3 months ago!! We were the ones that the old guy that grooms the flattrack yelled at! He about got his grill cracked!! If its been that long you night be thinking of a different track. This track started practice on oct28th today is dec 6th, so we only talking a month and a week this track has been open. we waited over a month for practice days to even start. Plus we have been out there for every practice and other ths sinn who runsa few laps we have been the ONLY 3 bikes out there... Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: Hoosier Daddy on December 06, 2004, 03:06:58 AM Quote Tearing up the track is right in some cases. Most tracks dont want to see nothing but Flattrack tires. Out at Hendry there is no way a set of Knobbies could hang with A set of 19-10-10 Sd33 compound American Racers. By the end of the night there was so much rubber down on the track it was black in the corners. But if the track was wet ...Hang on!! Tearing up the track is right in some cases. Most tracks dont want to see nothing but Flattrack tires. Out at Hendry there is no way a set of Knobbies could hang with A set of 19-10-10 Sd33 compound American Racers. By the end of the night there was so much rubber down on the track it was black in the corners. But if the track was wet ...Hang on!! If you race Circle track the rule should be Flattrack tires only. That way everybody is on the same tire no matter what the track conditions are. If you race Circle track the rule should be Flattrack tires only. That way everybody is on the same tire no matter what the track conditions are. Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: Hoosier Daddy on December 06, 2004, 03:07:27 AM i 110% agree...
Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: RTR_380/450R on December 06, 2004, 04:18:50 AM DADE CITY 2-3 MTHS AGO!! WOULDNT TELL YOU A STORY!
Randy asked "POPS" if we would go out and ride the flat track to see how it was! We used to run flat track about 40 times a year about 5 years ago and slowly faded away for lack of interest. But we still like to every once in a while. The track is on the left as soon as you pull in, down in a valley. 400EX on this forum has run it a long time ago as well! jt Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: Hoosier Daddy on December 06, 2004, 04:24:52 AM humm, they wouldnt let us ride before they actully "opened". Well, we will be at salts as well, my name is chris i have the blue banshee w/yellow flames with the 07 plates come by and say hi! We always like to meet new people to race/ride with.
Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: mod81 on December 06, 2004, 06:02:46 AM they have actually been practicing since august,just not officially...ware i didnt say you guys werent fast(you are,your dad is impressive on the r)just if you guys can figure how to use the top of the corners you will be much faster...sinn has been doing short practices breaking in a new motor..he is a mxer but has alot of flattrack exp as well...if you think hes getting tired from 5 laps on the flattrack you should go over and try a 7 lapmx moto...there is alot more maintenance on a track to run slicks only,and you have to remember randy is in itfor the money so hes not going to exclude anyone because of tires..who was the guy with the purple raptor a month or so ago?i should be there thursday nite ill come over and introduce myself,hopefully we can get more people to show up for races....cya thursday
Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: Hoosier Daddy on December 06, 2004, 06:08:45 AM purple raptor,,, i dont have a clue.... Our banshee's have raptor looking plastic..i dont think sinn was getting tired just more involved in mx (please dont put words in my mouth dont want trouble), since hes sponsered by OAS i dont think hes tired on a round track. i have seen him on the mx track and he can run, i ran a few practices out there on the MX its fun but it whoops me... anyway, we have tried the top but its only good if you can get a bunch of bikes to push the cushion up other wise its full of marbles.... yuck! since august? everytime we went out there colin and randy said there was no practice and we had to wait until the track "opened". well, then where did everyone go then? i havent seen anyone else on practice nights? i think the first time we raced there were 8 bikes and the second time there were 6 FASTltz2 and i were both out of town that weekend...
Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: Hoosier Daddy on December 06, 2004, 06:22:40 AM Ya come by next time, im pretty sure we will be there this thurs since there is no race sat the 11th. like i was telling RTR we always like to meeet new people and were not the "i know everything and everyone else sucks" kind of racers we go out there to have fun and meet new people. im chris #07 by bro is dave #24 and my dad is david he used to ride the white 250r that some thief now has...
Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: 1fastltr450 on December 06, 2004, 07:37:16 AM Quote purple raptor,,, i dont have a clue.... Our banshee's have raptor looking plastic..i dont think sinn was getting tired just more involved in mx (please dont put words in my mouth dont want trouble), since hes sponsered by OAS i dont think hes tired on a round track. i have seen him on the mx track and he can run, i ran a few practices out there on the MX its fun but it whoops me... anyway, we have tried the top but its only good if you can get a bunch of bikes to push the cushion up other wise its full of marbles.... yuck! since august? everytime we went out there colin and randy said there was no practice and we had to wait until the track "opened". well, then where did everyone go then? i havent seen anyone else on practice nights? i think the first time we raced there were 8 bikes and the second time there were 6 slowltz2 and i were both out of town that weekend... I see how you gots to talk about me. Just look out for the stock yellow Z. Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: Hoosier Daddy on December 06, 2004, 07:40:45 AM i was out of town too!! you know we love you man!!! dont fool me with "its stock" BS!! your dads tim right? whats the boy on the warrior name?
Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: Hoosier Daddy on December 06, 2004, 07:50:04 AM oh crap! i just relised what i did! i swear that was a honest mistake, i dont know why i thought you name was different... i fixed it though.. really im sorry about that.
Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: 1fastltr450 on December 06, 2004, 07:54:36 AM the boy on the warrior is my wifes brother Christian and yes my dad is Tim. what do you mean stock bs. Just had to mess with ya.
Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: Hoosier Daddy on December 06, 2004, 07:57:21 AM i have seen that bike drag race and run oval, and its quick....
but i dont have any clue about suz400's so i guess it could be stock. but its fast so im confused..... :-/ you should see how wide my bike is now. looks like a fat womans butt!! wide!! Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: 1fastltr450 on December 06, 2004, 08:17:28 AM Good deal I hope one day soon I can get mine a little wider and alot faster
Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: Hoosier Daddy on December 06, 2004, 08:29:33 AM its pretty fast as it is, we we can do at salts is race each other. i do this alot to see how much some has on me...
Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: 1fastltr450 on December 06, 2004, 08:38:22 AM I dont have nuttin for you, but it is on know
Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: Hoosier Daddy on December 06, 2004, 08:46:47 AM you kill me. ;D my brothers bike is stock other than the head (stock domes) and pipes.. mine is not quite so stock.... do you need me to give you a head start at salts!! SNAP! ouch! ;) ;D j/k dont shoot me...
Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: 1fastltr450 on December 06, 2004, 09:04:18 AM yeah count to 3 and catch me
Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: 1fastltr450 on December 06, 2004, 09:06:39 AM maybe we can bring an Indian to do a rain dance next dadecity race I will be ready next time and dad can do his thing again
Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: Hoosier Daddy on December 06, 2004, 09:15:49 AM geezz please dont say that!!! next time ill bring my woods tires. then ill be able to hook up. that crap was nasty, next time i wont race. it took forever to clean all the clay off my bike..
Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: LIV2RIDE on December 07, 2004, 10:51:21 AM Quote they have actually been practicing since august,just not officially... I ran there every Saturday night during the month of Aug. Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: 1fastltr450 on December 07, 2004, 11:41:38 AM I did to I finished 6th overall in the summer series
Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: 450R_Matt on December 08, 2004, 06:06:23 PM Lets not get to far off the track that LIV2RIDE was talkin bout.
Has anyone been to this little dirt track? Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: Hoosier Daddy on December 08, 2004, 06:08:34 PM By "liitle" i assume you mean Dade city?
I think that other track by Hrad rock is much bidder... now, did ya read the WHOLE topic??? ;) yep we race there (DC) sat nights, except this sat (no racin) :'( Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: 450R_Matt on December 08, 2004, 06:28:10 PM No I dont mean Dade City Or is that the track that LIV2RIDE Has on the first post. Check out the website it says Ocala. Its says motorsports-mania........Maybe Im Kornfuesed.. [smiley=Confused.gif].
Did you read the hole topic... ??? Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: Hoosier Daddy on December 08, 2004, 06:32:40 PM OK ya that track is down the rode from Hard rock off hwy 326 and ??? (cant remember but its between 75 and 301) its the first light after you get off the interstate. Which is ocala but more on the silver springs side of ocala,
we havent been there yet but i think were planing on it soon. Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: mod81 on December 08, 2004, 08:26:08 PM ok here's what i heard today,a kart customer went there sat nite said the track was terrible,the quads race after the kart program is over,some of the quad riders were openly drinking and were allowed to race...the source is very reliable,take it for what you will...i have raced there many times,the track used to be a 1/4 mile...5 or so years ago it was shortened up a bit and id say it now a generous 1/5 mile..its laid out similar to dade city just longer straights...the tracks is usually slick red ga clay but i guess this new owner doesnt water the track much,i heard it was a sand pit last weekend...the sand is even harder to get a grip on than the wet,good luck if you try it out....
Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: Hoosier Daddy on December 09, 2004, 03:04:07 AM ugggg... i think ill pass...
Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: 450R_Matt on December 09, 2004, 08:38:33 AM 1/5? Thats small. I guess maybe 3rd all the way around. :-/
Hope they open Hendry back up. We were in 5th in the corners and shifting into 6th at the end of the strights. 14-37 gears on my R . Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: Hoosier Daddy on December 09, 2004, 09:00:07 AM hey,
let me know if they do! Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: Hoosier Daddy on December 09, 2004, 09:00:48 AM btw you know a big dude that rides a blue and white flattrack banshee?? lives in naples to..
Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: 450R_Matt on December 09, 2004, 11:38:10 AM Quote btw you know a big dude that rides a blue and white flattrack banshee?? lives in naples to.. Yeah, Ive met him twice he came out to practice right b4 the track got shut down. I think his name was ??? Link ??? If he has the red white and blue shee? Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: Hoosier Daddy on December 09, 2004, 11:47:20 AM yeah he came all the way from naples to race at dade city!
now thats devoted!!! Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: 1fastltr450 on December 09, 2004, 05:50:45 PM 1st race all he did was complain and whine like a baby,but 2nd race I heard he kicked some a$$
Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: HillKiller on December 11, 2004, 08:36:14 AM He was whining about all the mud but the 2nd night he raced he finished 1st in both his heats and the main. He is super nice and drives along way to race with us. And yes he did say he raced at Hendry up til that track closed.
Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: 450R_Matt on December 11, 2004, 02:15:45 PM HillKiller24 I dont think Link w/ the red white and blue shee ever got to race at Hendry, just practice. Maybe its Pat on the all Blue shee w/ the #7a
Title: Re: Flattrack quads needed Post by: weekendwarrior1 on December 11, 2004, 09:44:51 PM .
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