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I agree with the different class set ups and also a suggestion is to have the 4 and 2 strokes race seperate

additional classes would be great. ie 250cc and 300cc...My kids had a blast  you can look for us to get them involved more. in the 90cc catagory

I posted on the 01-08 salts dale forum about a class 100cc to 250 or 300cc class to allow smaller bike to run. My13yr old daugther at 5foot 9inch rides a 250cc bike and loves to race but wont come close to hang with a 400. Also have a bunch of guys that have either a warror or ex300 that say they will run but not with the 400s, just a thought THANKS

hey smoke need to get some lights so we can run at little into the night if we have too. just my.02  thanks see ya'll in ga.

First of all ..Nice Meet'n Ya BAD ..i'm the one that was HOLLARARR'N in the Orange Thingy .. GIT IT RAG !!!   ;D
My RAG Was Broke so i Kinda Made the Day Of It ..
AND YES ...They need light's,P.A. System,ETC...But in Time
i think it will come ...as long as us Hill Climer's,Trail Rider's,Weekend Warrier's,Flat Tracker's,and GO-GETTR'S
Keep on a going to the SALT'S ...ride or not ....I'M THERE !!!
OH YEAH !!!  i like that Finish Shot ya got when the Gen.
Ran outa Gas ....  FRANK WAS RIGHT !!  TRIBAL Bike in Front
SEE YA'LL IN GA.  ;)

okay. i am getting a rule book from hazelhurst, and also getting the rules from atv drag racing association.  I should have them no later than thursday, keep the comments coming.
thanks,
smoke

Smoke, I've made suggestions before, but you didnt want to have too many classes which I understand.
 Add 200 to 300cc class ( blasters,250ex,warrior, etc)
 Dont have a "stock" class, nobody that goes racing is 100% stock. Most of the "stock" bikes have gutted pipes and other unseen mods.
 400cc 4 stroke class, there are plenty z400,400ex to make a class.
 4 stroke mod, 450s,raptors,ds650s
 2 stroke mod, banshees, zillas, etc.
 open, anything goes alky, nitrous, street bike motors,etc.
   I dont think a class for swingarm bikes makes much sense. Some bikes need to be stretched and some dont. If a mx guy has a +1 swinger on his z400 it puts him in full mod under current rules and on the same note my yfz does just fine stock length. I dont think other tracks classify by swingarm length.
 We just need to make the classes more even. Lets keep this topic going and make Salts more fun to everyone. By the way Smoke you and Ron have done a great job, the races have been going very smooth, Thanks.
 

1st comment- get a faster bike so you can run w/ them ga boys. (lol). but on a serious note I am happy to see the work that is being put in to this to try to better it. thanks to the ceo smoke and everyone else who is involved. I dont know how much it would be but maybe look into renting lights untill ya'll can buy some. I think with spring and summer just around the corner it is going to get alot hotter. I also think you should see how hazlehurst is run and then maybe try to break up classes some.

Can we have a class were i can run my flattrack set up? its a real pain in the a to switch everything over the to race flattrack saturday nights! ;)  LOL

I think Jason and them do a great job, seems pretty well thought out so Im cool with whatever yall do.. I dont care what or who i race with as long as im racing. so what ever yall want to do im in!

One thing, as in most racing if you are a winner week after week, after week, after week, you should be moved up a class to be competive. Some people get tired of losing to same  person over and over..

On the same note if you lose week after week after week, sell your bikes and buy some golf clubs.
 G,G,G,G,Gitttttt it RAG!!!!

hey yamahonda it kinda looked like that to me too , but we will do it again in ga. smoke and ceo have this going in the right direction , and oh yea we will have the crown with us ;D ;D ;D any way we can help just hollarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

I think chillin said it good about his ideas , especially w/ extended swing arms. The only reason the tribals are stretched is because of hill climbing. Because  none of us really have alot of mods to have to run full mod, but then again if we dropped down to just mod class then the stock length guys would have a cow cause they would have to try and play catch up. Back to square one. Oh well I tried. You guys are doing great so far so what ever you come up w/ I'm sure will be fine. Just remember smoke ya can't satisfy everybody, just do the best you can, than they either race or don't. my 2cents  ;D

One thing to remember is that this is drag racing!  To try to incorporate classes that cater to persons like WARE and RTR CREW is just silly!  When we get serious about drags then we can set our quads up for and build our quads for it.  Dont worry about us too much.  We need to adjust to Drag Racing, not have Drag Racing adjust to us!!  Dont get me wrong, I would love a class like- Modified 2 stroke TT/MX quad w/ stock swing arm who sometimes DRAG RACES for fun!!  If you wanna do one of those classes, let me know but I wouldnt blame you if you didnt! ;)
BTW Smoke!  I heard you had your azz handed to you by them GA boyz!!  Dont worry! POPS has got sumpin for em!
JUST AROUND THE CORNER!!
jt

sh@t no one got there a$$ handed to them they had to earn every round  and that was some of the best racing ive seen

I was just picking on SMOKE specifically!  Im sure everyone brought their best!  Like I have any room to talk!  

Hey guys! Keep the ideas coming. We are trying to keep you all happy and have some great racing. I know it will be hard to keep everyone happy. So I will keep the pork sandwiches in your face. LOL  Oh yea! and ceo honeys tatersald it's the best

I love you guys.  It makes us feel good that you guys appreciate our efforts.  We will be trying to make this better.  Let me do some thinking and I will get back with this. Keep the ideas coming.
Thanks,
Jason

RTR - you better watch out for the orange crush.  She is running.  And yes, those GA boyz were shaking when the orange crush came up.

Whatca  talkin  bout  Willis !!!    I  own  a  set  of  golf  clubs , bringem  to  saltsdale , see  who  gots  tha  LONG  drive !!!  ;D

RTR,


make sure to  Go back up and reread my post i think you started running your mouth before you read it all...,  the LOL with this  ;) indicates it was a joke... about changing set ups..  I think everone knew that but you.

as i said.. i dont care who i race with as long as we race... i didnt ask anyone to "cater" to me..



so before you try to "chump" me, know what your talking about. As is most of your post you have a way of coming across as a real "tool"...

Dang Ware, I pretty much thought that RTR was saying the same thing as you so I don't know why your getting all bent about it

This is the part i was talking about... 10 other people voice thier views and I get pointed out?! and mine was a joke!!


Le,
  something when wrong with your quote...

Hu Hu , Ware  said  tool. ;D ;D

GROIN PUNCH!!!!   ;D

Dang  it  Ware  its  SLUG  GROIN  !!!   As  in  Team SG !!!! ;D [smiley=Clap.gif]

can i say what? opps..   what can i say??

ohhh im going back to sleep... ;D

I  am  still  laughing  about  the  tool  comment !!!!!! ;D

I was trying to be P.C.! i just get annoyed when some people feel they have to make other look dumb to make themselves feel better.. there is no need for that..  

be nice or go home.. you know??
would Richard be a better word to use?  ;D

How  about  Richard  Head !!! ;D

thats a good one too!

Or  you  could  have  said  The  Head  of  your  RTR !!! :o ;D

That might be confusing.... :-/ ::) ;)

how did you do agaist the GA boys?

Me  and  Yamahondaman  out  drank  them !!! [smiley=Confused.gif] ;D

ouch....  

I was just talking to him... well, that sucks, i couldnt make it
we just bought some property and we were busy clearing it of trees...

Oh  we  had  fun !!!  Ronnie  was  killin  me  yelling  through  the  big  orange  safety  cone , GIT  IT  RAG !!! ;D

WOW WARE!  Last i looked at my post i believe I was talking about myself out there as well!  It wasnt a slam on you or anyone else, I was just trying to make a point to let them know that WE as multi point riders dont mind running in whatever class we have to in order to have fun. AS A MATTER OF FACT i dont remember reading your post before posting mine. I actually thought that it was a comment that we both could see eye to eye on!  As far as being a TOOL!!
I dont remember calling you any names or personally disrespecting you. You dont know me!  There is a level of respect that you should have for somebody and I dont believe I have even come close to crossing that line with you! But you certainly just did!
Any one on here who has met me knows that I am a truly genuine individual.  The inner circle of people that i talk to on the posts that you read from me are amongst friends.  Several times have i read posts of yours that seem to be misinterpreted.  Maybe Im guilty of that now.  If I am, let me know.  But if Im not, then Ill talk to you later!!

SMOKE-  I HEARD THE ORANGE CRUSH WAS WICKED SCARY!

Hey RTR ,,,,,  The "PUMPKIN" with the "OPERATER,OWNER"
DID EARN SOME RESPECT !!!    He did AWSOME !!!
Look out TRIBAL'S !!   Hey Frank !!!  GIT IT !!!!

RTR,

  if you werent trying to point me out then my mistake, however this isnt the first time you have pointed me out. you have done this in another topic a while back as well. BUT, How can you say "AS A MATTER OF FACT i dont remember reading your post before posting mine" you used my name in your post??..
Im confused.. Anyway, Please in the future dont use me as an example.
sometimes its hard to know how you mean things. Personaly and from the few PM's i have receved from others it sounded like you in so many words were telling me to drag race or dont
And somewhat ripping on me.
Text is really hard to judge emotion .. this is why we use LOL, smileys, etc, etc..
          But all is cool and if you meant it as we were "eye to eye" then all is well. no harm, no foul.. If smoke, yamahondaman, quad32x, and especally FASTLTZ were giving me a rash of sh*t i would know they were joking buy the way they word things and this  ;) ;D always helps someone know too.
also,
  i wasnt calling you a tool,, i said " you have a way of coming across as a tool"  there is a differance.

Anyway, my apolgies... It just rubbed my the wrong way..

RTR,,, Now you know were going to get it from the boys now right??? geezzzz ;)
S

Hey  Ware , quit  being  a  tool !!! ;D  RTR , Its  all  good  brother !!!! 8)

quad,

   DONT MAKE ME GROIN PUNCH YOU!!!! ;D

i know i know... slug groin...... :-/

RTR and i talked and its cool,,

I need someone to distract RTR at salts so i can sneek up on him and roost him!... maybe i can get him and fastltz and the same time,,, 2 for 1!!  ;D then ill run like HELL!!! ;D

I  know !!  I  will  offer  cold  ones  and  when  ya  roost  em  I  haul  ass !!!! ;D

No... your throttle might sick again,,,, we know what happens then THAT happens.... and youll get cought! ;)

IM NOT SAYING NUTTIN'! :-X

you are going to need more then that rapturd or benchshee or what ever that slow thing is to get away from me

I don't know if I would roost him because I think his 2fittyR would catch that raptshee your riding.  HEHEHEHEHEHE



HOW YA LIKE ME NOW SUKA'S ????????????????????

well while suggestions are going on I feel that every kid in the kids class should get a trophy, A trophy to us is no big deal but to a kid that really is something just think about it. You could buy the big ones like you give 1st,2nd, and 3rd for those places then go buy a big case full of small trophies just the ones with the stand and a 4- wheeler cant be much cost a couple of dollars and they will not go bad just have them say saltsdale sand drag 2005 or something like that, they dont have to have a place on them.just my .02 cents on that.

THATS AN AWESOME IDEA! I would be willing to donate for something like that!

we are looking at that as a matter of fact.  I won't be a TOOL about this, and I want everyone to see this EYE TO EYE, but we are thinking, ceo and I, and everyone that sees EYE TO EYE with us, that we would give trophies 1st - 3rd, then like framed certificates from 4th - 7th, and then a framed certificate for all the other kids participating.  I know some people might call me a TOOL for not giving all the kids a trophy, but they are not cheap.  I can't remember anymore terms to use from the the bullcrap that has been posted on here, but had to throw some in.

Yeah the orange crush is being talked about around the state.  The GA boyz actually want some revenge, cause smoke jockeyed the orange crush to a few victories, before he got the starting line jitters.  Cut even eliminated some boys.  He is definetly making the tribal cheerleaders spend some money.  Hopefully cut will let me jockey it a few more times, so I can get used to it and show Jerry Crack Corne, how we do it up hurrrrrrr......

GET IT RAG.....

LE,

    ummm dont laugh you werent able to catch my banshee.... ;)

RTR,


  told ya!

THATS OK! If you read his post real closely, SMOKE said he was "JOCKEYED"!
Does that make him a "TOOL"?

haha...i don't have no damn spell check....i just type slower than my mind can think, and I HATE PROOFREADING.....
and yes jockeyed is in my vocabulary....
GOT your tool swing from my grab bar on my bike....

JOCKEYED?? bet that hurts!!  ;D

HEY! THATS NO WAY TO TALK TO YOUR GRADE BEOTCH! >:(

I THOUGHT WE HAD SOMETHIN SPECIAL! ::)

SMOKE? Did that last post make me sound gay? ???

ummm...  :-/

 ;D

Im with him on this as for the rest of the post to much $hit for me to read!!!!!

Chillin has my Vote,Now make it happen haha

GET IT RAG RUFFFFFF

Come  on  scooter , you  can  keep  up !!  But  smokie , like  fastltz  said , give  ALL  the  kids  a  trophy.  They  dont  have  to  be  big  and  you  dont  have  to  put  a  date  on  them.  First  dont  have  to  be  bigger  than  the  next  but  it  will  mean  a  lot  to  all  the  kids  to  get  one !!! ;D

smoke there ya go again with that short term memory lose. :P The pumpkins running great but crack corne did spank it on a tribal and what would have happened if he would of had a win when the lights quit, which from the pics looks like he won, could have been alot different in the end!!! The crown might still be in FL at least in full mod.  btw looks like yamahonda took over the cheerleading role with that cone! HEHEHE lol sorry ronnie had to do it. Actually worked pretty good. 8)
All I got to say is ya better be on top of ya game from now on cause the tribe aint playing games no mo!!!!!!!! fixen to spend some play money. got ta buy new plugs! hehe
LE bro ya need to put that thing back on gas so you can run with us cause you got to spend a lot more money to comp. in the open class! Don't get me wrong your bike was runnin but its just no comp when them ga boys come down. And who knows when ortona will be back. Your bike would do good in full mod! Just a thought! see ya

look he wants this so I can beat up on him like a little kid

Hey TRIBAL ... Next time i was thinking about bring'n the "POM-POM'S" !!!    ;D  J/K !!
Hey Smoke... At the ATV Natl's they give Wall Plaques as Trophies...would the cost be any better ?  i bet the "Mom's" Would like it better .."I GOTTA DUST THEM THING'S AGAIN" !!
at least a plaque would be outta the way and they look cool hanging in the Kid's Bedroon.. jus a thought ?
HOLLAR Brother ...........

The only thing your ever beat is your meat dream you could keep up with my 400!!!

put some money where that mouth is this way i might bring my quad back out,other wise its not worth my gas to race you or your crew  :P

race for money did i hear race for money?????????????????????????? ??? ;D ;D ;D 8) 8)

Tribe,dont worry about LE, he has got "plans" just takes time.
 The only thing that has been established so far on this topic is that the kids should all get something, I'd have to agree. I have 3 kids thats $45 to enter them, give em somthing or lower the entry. Its all about fun for them but my 3 yr. old on his 50 cant beat a 90. Raise the gate fee a $1 and let the kids race for free. Do I sound cheap? I'm not, as long as they enjoy it I dont care how much it cost.
The only other thing that has been discussed is how much Ware and RTR are in love ;D......Get a room ;D
How about some feedback, thats what Smoke asked for, dont complain when he changes the rules if ya dont speak up.

I think the stock class should stay just make one for the 401cc and up ,there is some people who dont have the money to make them any faster but enjoy racing. just a little more advice.

I think the stock class should stay just make one for the 401cc and up ,there is some people who dont have the money to make them any faster but enjoy racing. just a little more advice.

The problem with that is what is considered "stock"? If we have a stock class then do we disqualify the bikes without spark arresters and bigger jetting?

Chillin I did speak up ! I told smoke that what you said orignally sounded great. I don't have kids so what ever you guys come up w/ thats great too. I think Hazelhurst rules will probably make everything a little more even. see ya ;D

Here is pretty much the run down that Hazelhurst is running, with a few changes for us.  From now on we will be having a drivers meeting at 10 am.  No practice runs.  We will start at around 10:30 am.  All the classes will set up using a number system where you draw a number and that sets up the first round.  You will be able to practice on the sand next to the muddhole.  

Kids class ($15.00 per bike.1st – 4th trophies, 5th – 8th certificate, 9th – to finish certificate)
• 90 cc or less
• 13 yo or less
• no dirtbikes, dirtbikes can race each other during classes.

Stock 350 and less 2 stroke class. ($15.00 per bike, payback $10.00)
Stock 400 and less 4 stroke class. ($15.00 per bike, payback $10.00)
Stock 450 and less 4 stroke class. ($15.00 per bike, payback $10.00)
Utility 4x4 class ($15.00 per bike, payback $10.00)

Stock Classes Restrictions –
• All atv’s must be stock appearing, front and rear fenders can be cut.
• Overbores no larger than .080 over stock.
• No port work or crankcase modification.
• No strokers, lightened cranks or long rod cranks.
• Stock cylinder head, any modification.
• Any reed cage, reed petals, or reed spacer allowed.
• Stock carbs & manifold, any modifications allowed.
• TORS system can be removed.
• Any type exhaust pipes allowed except drag pipes, CPI (in frame) okay.
• Stock air box, lid can be removed, sides & lid can be modified, any style air filter.
• Heavy duty cluctch petals and springs only.  No billet hubs, straight cut gear.
• Ignition timing plates are allowed.
• Stock ignition system only, flywheel can be lightened.
• Any sprocket or tire combination.
• Any shock modification or shock allowed.
• No extended swingarms, bolt on extensions are allowed, 2” maximum.
• No wheelie bars allowed.
• No A arm restrictions.
• No air, electric, override or automatic shifter allowed.
• Gasoline only.
• All atv’s are subject to tear down for non compliance of rules.  $100.00 dollar protest rule.

Pro Stock Class (2 stroke and 4 stroke together) ($15.00 per bike, payback $10.00)
• All atv’s must be stock appearing, front and rear fenders can be cut.
• Overbores no larger than .080 over stock.
• No strokers, lightened cranks or long rod cranks.
• Portwork allowed.
• Aftermarket cylinder heads allowed.
• Any reed cage, reed petals, or reed spacer allowed.
• Any carbs & manifold, any modifications allowed.
• TORS system can be removed.
• Any type exhaust pipes allowed except drag pipes, CPI (in frame) okay.
• Any style air filter.
• Ignition timing plates are allowed.
• Stock ignition system, can have aftermarket CDI box.
• Flywheel can be lightened.
• Any sprocket or tire combination.
• Replacement axle carriers are allowed, nothing exotic.
• Replacement sprocket holder, disc brake holders, etc are allowed, nothing exotic.
• No aluminum axles or swing arms.
• Any shock modification or shock allowed.
• Wheelie bars allowed.
• Extended swing arms allowed not over 12 inches.
• No A arm restrictions.
• No air, electric, override or automatic transmissions allowed.
• No aftermarket frames.
• Heavy duty clutch plates and springs allowed, no lockups or straight cut gears.
• Gasoline only.
• All atv’s are subject to tear down for non compliance of rules.  $100.00 dollar protest rule.

Open Class ($35.00, payback $30.00)
• Must be an atv, run what ya brung.

what do you guys think of these classes?

very, very few bikes from day one were truely stock up there if you are calling that out so I say keep it the way it is and add the big bikesto the other class. There is no way to say a bike is stock if no one wants to get out there and really look it over and take it apart.

I think that stock class is way off of a stock bike, you can have a pipe and other stuff done. I agree with the cc size of the classes.the rest sounds great to me other then that.

smoke,
Where does that put the strokers?

Open class?

What about aftermarket cylinders?
aftermarket sleeves?

Alright im back in stock class come get some slowLTZ

slowltz isnt going to get anything BUT his a$$ handed to him!!
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Guess that puts me in the stock class too.  ;D I'll be there next month for sure!  [smiley=ThumbsUp.gif]

extended swing arms race in pro stock class, up to 12", i made a typo at first, but i modified it.
Strokers are in open class.  They make a serious difference from no stroker to stroker.

what about aftermarket cylinders,

or aftermarket sleeves in stock cylinders?

I guess I might get to feel like you feel every month then and one day when I can get a pipe and all that other stuff I can compete again. you should just take stock out of the name of the class and call it a 400 class

Ya!  i get MINE handed to me just about everytime.......
whacha gonna do?? ;)

My kids got a blast out of just racing and look forward to the next time, so what little you do above and beyond letting them race is more than enough. Daniel cant stop talking about how much fun he had. You put on a great spread thanks
ahead of time.

Same here my kids still talking about racing and are all ready for next month. My oldest would like to race as well but see is out classed riding a 250 but she has just as much fun riding the pits. thanks again for a GREAT place and GREAT people.

• No aluminum axles or swing arms.
UH OH !!!!  Guess i'll stretch a steel one "ole heavy thing" !
Hey BIG ...Kid's like that stuff .. better than CROOM i think ?
HEY SMOKEY .... How bout the Wall PLAQUE Thingy ??
HEY YOU GUY'S !!!!
The GEO. People were AMAZED about the "ORANGE CRUSHER"
and The "TRIBAL Hill Bikes" !!! little bit more tuning and go get
the "FLORIDA" Money Back !!  20,000 Dollar Bikes Against
4500.00 Dollar Bikes ...........NOT BAD !!

WOW !!!  If  I  read  that  right  stock  sounds  a  lot  like  the  mod  class  to  me.  I  think  its  fine  the  way  you  run  it  now  with  just  allowing  the  paddle  tires.  Only  change  I  would  make  would  be  the  401cc plus  stock  class  for  the  450 , 500 , 660 , 700 cc  bikes  that  cant  afford  after  market  parts  but  want  to  race  and  have  a  chance  to  place  or  win  something.  

HEY SMOKE: I THINK THINGS ARE WORKING FINE THE WAY THEY ARE. I HAVE SEEN THIS THING REALLY GROW IN THE LAST 5 OR 6 MONTHS. I WOULD LEAVE IT BE FOR NOW. IF ITS NOT BROKE DONT FIX IT. BUT I DO AGREE WITH THE CHILL MYSTER ON DO A LITTLE MORE FOR THE KIDS. IT MIGHT SOUND CORNY BUT THE KIDS ARE MAKING MEMORIES THAT THEY WILL CHERISH FOR YEARS TO COME. I KNOW MY SPELLING SUXS SOMETIMES. SEEEE YAAA!!!!  PETER PETER PUMPKIN EATER.

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perfectly said, the stock class sounds just like our mod class///and on the kids class chillen is right needs to have more stuff for the kids and what is a certificate going to do, that is nothing to a kid most likely will be tore up before they get home, so when someone comes and spends 45 dollrs on 3 kids to sign up to race they are garanteed a 2 cent piece of paper come on guys you can do better then that

the certificate is in a frame with a ribbon.  You didn't get one last time you raced in the kids class a few month ago LTZ?  so do we want to leave it the way it is, or change it?

Smoke , If  you  make  any  changes  make  a  class  for  the  poor  guys  with  the  401cc  and  up  stockers  that  have  a  hard  enough  time  making  bike  payments  and  cant  afford  aftermarket  goodies  like  the  guys  in  the  mod  class  that  are  killing  them  now !!!!

just got off the phone w/ a couple trophy dealers for a case of trophies is 5.00 a piece. If you charge 15 dollars a kid that leaves 10 to go to everything else not counting the raffle ya'll do also.  100 trophies to a case bring some to the track and what is not used take home put up and bring them next time. Not tring to sound like a jerk but there alot of people letting their kids race and the kids need something to show for it.

Where is this Trophy Dealer at? We have been around here and cant find trophies that cheap, So we are thinking about getting with some ATV dealers and see if they wanna sdponsor,, tried that once before but didn't get very far with it. I know the 3 trophies this last race ( and they werent very big at all) were well over 10.00 each..... We have also thought about the medallions, were looking into it all.....

the dealers I called were just local here at the house just to see what they cost, it was here in Palatka if you want the name of the place I will get it and # for you I asked about just little trophies 4to 6 inches tall that was a base  and a 4-wheeler trophy top the lady told me $6.00 a piece for a couple and I asked her about if I was to order a bunch ,she said I could get a case for $5.00 a piece. I got a nother place going to call me back w/ the price,I will let you know on that.

Thanks Fast, keep us posted... I'm making more calls as well. Only place we found with a really good deal was outta state then wouid have to pay the shipping cost.... Also for anyone interested all the Pics from Race day that I took are now up on the Saltsdale Muddhole web page,,,, Under track events and then NEW PICS I thin,,,, Saltsdalemuddhole.com

Fast, we love ya man.  Naw really, thanks for the research, because I can tell you that the CEO and his wife have HUNTED for trophies that are cheap and have not had good luck.  Basically all the stock classes are for stock bikes.  About the only thing that will give you an increase in HP is a pipe or pipes.  I mean LTZ you would run in stock 400 class and do good.  Don't ya think??????  Guys I am not doing this for my benefit, cause look what it does to me.  I have to race all the stretched guys, and we know what is going to happen with me.  Probably about the same results as what happened when the GA boys came down.  

 ITS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY  IF YOU DONT PUT RULES ON THE CLASSES THIS COULD GET OUT OF HAND  FOR THOSE WHO CANT AFORD TO JROP A LOT CASH IN THERE BIKES  AND THOSE  WHO DONT WANT TO TURN THERE RIDES IN TO FULL BLOWN RACE BIKES  SO PUT RULES ON THE CLASSES SO  WE ALL HAVE A CLASS WE CAN RUN IN  I  LIKE THE RULES SO FAR ;D

Just another note to say thanks for the good time you provided us at the races.  I've been thinkin about your light setup and one thing you may think about changing.  I have a system from porta-tree and the distance from the stage beam to the guard beam is minimum 15 inches per their instructions.  I believe your rollout was only 9 inches, which made it hard for staging in the lanes due to the bike rolling down the hill left from the previous racers.  I think this contributed to the red lights which occurred, because of the short distance from stage to red.  

Classes?,  that's why I run the e.t. races.  I know hardly anyone cheats :), but the bracket race puts the outcome in the drivers hands, not the bike buildup.

Look forward to seeing you all in Ga the next couple of weeks, and if not, we'll see you next month in Fla.

badcompany350's Dad  

Hey BAD ... THATS WHAT I'M TALK'N BOUT !!!  BRACKET !!
How Bout It CUT ???   ;D
HECK .... i can Beat That TRIPPLE THING !!!
in the past ... we had a LT-80 Take ALL THE MONEY !!!
We Were FAST !!!   he was consistant !!   ;)
won't make it to GA. this week end ... were hopeing to
make it to VALDOSTA !!!  
Ronnie in Palmghetto

Hey smoke & ceo I have a question for ya. Now that there are more people coming out & you keep saying that you want to pay out more places then why don't you make it where the gate fee covers the property & track but all the race entry fee goes back into the pots for the classes. Just a suggestion since there are more people coming out now. Even if you up the gate fee to 8.00 then still put all the race entry back into the pots.

WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SPONSOR TROPHYS FOR THE KIDDIES! CALL ME SMOKE!
JT

Cool I didn't read the rules until now so I guess that puts me back in the stock class with my 450.


CCCCCCCCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey LE .... 15 yr's. ago when we sand drag'd at BITHLO it was 8 buc's to get into the Gate and 15 buc's to Race ....
80% went Back to the Racer's ... the Track Made the Gate Money and the Tower,( crew ) Made the 20% ...
fun,fair for all ...NOBODY HARPED on the Price of Enjoyment
Especially when it comes to ATV'N ....
the sad part was that when the ( 30 - 100 ) People went
Home ...  the 20% people and the Track Owner's Cleaned
Up the Place that night and the folowing day ...
They Made NOTHING for the 3 hrs of Cleaning of debree
from the Brown Bottled People Like .....  UMMM  
i forgot who they were ? !!    ;D

I seen that guy cleaning up around the track> dam man thats funny ;D

awful quiet in here with everyone gone to ga, it is cold here in palatka so I know it is cold up there

alright guys, i want you to think about this.  in the next few months people are going to be putting stroked cranks in their bikes if we keep the rules the same.  Once that happens they will be running away from the competition, hands down.  So that means that everyone will have to spend app 600 dollars to run with those guys.  Just something to think about.  I will post a poll tonight about the rule changes and keep it up till friday.  Then I will post the classes on friday.

Dang  smoke , you  must  think  we  ALL  have  money !! [smiley=Disapprove.gif]

SMOKE: LETS GET REAL FOR A MINUTE! HOW ARE YOU GOING TO KNOW WHO IS STROKED AND WHO ISNT? DO YOU REALLY THINK THERE GOING TO BE HONEST ABOUT? I HAVE NO PROBLEM SAYING WHAT I GOT. AND YOU CAN BET IM NOT STROKED. I HAVE SOME NICE PORT WORK AND THAT IS IT. BUT YOU GOT A BETTER CHANCE OF GETTING STRUCK BY LIGHTNING THAN YOU HAVE OF GETTING SOME GUYS OF TELLING YOU THEY ARE STROKED.

Theres always gonna be a cheater anywhere you go,or any sport"hobbie" your into,catching them will not always happen,I like the New Classes Smoke!!! get me away from a few of them F0-FiDDY's and Shee's!!
Whoop wh00p its on like donkey Kong now  ;D

Get Ready Gary....
New Tires on order...
Gonna be like the old Days....
You staring @ the back-end of that orange Frame Z!!!

Just have a banshee class, thats what all the cheaters ride ;D. Then they wont affect the rest of us.

HaHa good point,kinda like last month with that bubble gum smell

Well I will start the trend of telling the truth & that is when I come back I will be stroked but you guy's will just have to wonder how many times she stroked it.  hehehehehe LMAO!!!!

when I am done w/ you you will want to bring out that 300ex to start racing it. I might let you win though I have won the last couple months.

theres gonna be no let me win im just gonna straight up win,and yeah your right ill bring the 300 out that way i wont beat you as bad!!!

I hear ya chillin, We're no more cheaten than you are!!!!HEHEHE ! Saying that's a bone stock 450 other than jetting and cut exhaust. ::) ::) There 's been a bunch of 450's out there with a lot more than you and you make them look slow!!! Come on now bro ya can't expect us to continue to believe that. Hell your beating a lot of real fast banshees. How bout it LE!!!!!  ;D ;D not trying ta pick on ya chillin but state the facts

first  things first   if you think some one is not running a stock motor  the rules say put up your $100  i can pull off a carb and reeds and measure the stroke of a two stroke pull the head off and measure the bore and fuel is not hard to check  and if your motor checks out ok you get to keep the $100 and if  it dont the person putting up the $100 gets it back and if you dont agree then will all know  truth and  a four stroke is not hard to check  ether so as the old saying gose put up or shut up  how about it MR tri z ;D

cut, why would you want to put up $100 to check a motor when the 1st place pay out is about $90.00 at best. :-/ It would be diff if payout was $5-600. That's about the only rule on the list that doesn't make much sense right now. It may be diff in a year or so if it gets really big to where you got 1-200 bikes at a race but for 25 in a class it's too small. That's a big race rule. The rest of the rules are great but me personally I would not tear my bike apart in all that dust at the track for even $2-300 dollars. but then again it don't bother me who knows what i've got done, just ask and I'll tell ya! trust me it's not much.  Like smoke says It's a hill climber wanna-be dragracer, but it runs!
  BTW smoke & CEO by no means am I cracking on the drags cause it's a blast and you guys do a great job! It's just my opp.

there would probalby be about 40 racers in the pro stock class, which would probalby break down like this.
1st - 175
2nd - 125
3rd - 75
4th - 25
or something like that.  I will get back to this later this morning.

so whats up with the classes smoke are you changing them, or they staying the same

when I get a chance to type up a poll, (tonight), I will run the poll for a week then let everyone know.
Smoke

HUMMMMM  i dunno ????
I Kinda Like What the TRIBE ,CHILLIN (s) Crew,Yamahondaman(s) Crew,PALATKA,CUTNGRS,ETC,ETC, ARE SAYING !!!!
CONGRESS RULES !!! Listen to them !!!!
They WILL V E T O thing's they don't want ......
if the LAW Changes............NO-SHOW....jus like the rest

ok ceo and smoke the other trophy place called me to day and they said for a base and a 4-wheeler on it was

1- $7.00
50- $4.95 each
100- $4.75 each

they said they would like a 7 - 10 days notice to get them done I will get you the name if you want it and # later

Hey FAST ... THAT'S CHEEP !!!  If it were me i would get the
50 with out the front "LOGO's" on em .... "STICK" the LOGO
on when needed !!!   1st. place ...SALEDALE...UMATILLA FLORIDA ....dATE/YEAR....ETC .... 2nd.....3rd....ETC ..
1 bike .............. or 12 bikes .....EASY !!
I'D GO FOR IT !!     ;)

Tribal dont take it personal,I was just messin witch cha. Nobody is cheating under the current rules, you are allowed strokers now. I dont actually think any of the "regular" bikes are stroked now but I know a few are on the way. Once again, my bike has the stock piston and no port work, stock cams.  
 You tribal guys might have been just hill climbers 6 months ago, but you have come a long way, you guys are now sand draggers.
 Dont make me buy a Banshee, I know thats what it takes to get really serious, but I hold my own with the thumper. [smiley=ThumbsUp.gif]

Thats it I am paying the first $100.00 to tear down that white 450 of chillens.


Just to know what is rwaly done to it. hehehehehe


J/K

STAND TO CORRECT CHILLIN !!!!!!
stock for stock ..................Banshee's ain't NUTT'N !!  ;)

I have beat way more banshees than have beat me. Aint no run of the mill banshee got a chance. Them big cc bikes and alky bike are impressive though.
 LE make it $400 ;D, all the doubters can pitch in. After the next race I'll tear it down. There's probably at least 20 people who think I'm lying ???, thats only $20 a piece. Been looking for an excuse to open it up, now you guys could pay for my parts ;).

HUMMMM !!!!!  some GOOD MONEY there Brother !!!
ain't ported one of them yet !!  Hope they "pitch" in !!  ;D

  ill though in $50 on that tear down if it not stock you pay us all what we put in   ;D

see what I mean. Nobody wants to pull their stuff apart for $100. Not enough $ ;D ;D I know what ya mean chillin!

Easy Chillen!! There is no way in hell anyone would ever tear my bike down for 100.00 either. If they want to tear it down then they can pay for my mechanic & all the gaskets to put it back together plus 3-500.00. When you look at my bike you will know don't fuk wit it so you won't need to tear it down.


I DON'T NEED TO CHEAT'EM TO BEAT'EM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I agree it is just little trophies for the kids but they would love them

just wanted make sure the ceo and smoke seen this

Hey  fast , give  them  a  IM.  And  thanks  for  all  your  work!!!! ;D  I  know  all  the  kids  would  love  to  get  trophys !!!! ;D

yeah I think so to I will do that

fastltz2 thanks for the hard work the kids will love ya ;)

they might love me if the ceo gets the trophies thanks big worm